My opinion is based on my personal experience, and this is it.

No one is getting "bad mouthed." Members are being informed about the questionable quality and unethical business practices of someone who promotes his business on this Forum. While Jeff treated me and others horribly, delayed my build, cost me thousands, slid others in ahead of me, intentionally misled me and refused to communicate, I sincerely hope he gets his business practices turned around and lives up to his reputation. It's the best outcome for everyone, especially Jeff. If not, why promote him to unsuspecting members? We're here to help each other, not lead them into an abyss. My integrity is far more valuable, and we're here to help our members, not harm them. I sure wish someone had warned me, and not blindly promoted a less than ethical business. My car would be complete and I'd already be building the one my wife wanted if Jeff was honest. But this aggravation with Jeff talked her out of that. Apparently, she didn't want to have a $70k regret sitting around for a year waiting on an unethical business in the hopes she may need to borrow a wrench someday.


Quote Originally Posted by frankeeski View Post
I'll preface this by saying that Jeff and I have been friends for more than 20 year. In all those years we've seen many of these PSA (public service announcement) threads. Both for/against supporting vendor and non. This is a small group of enthusiasts and that same guy you're bad mouthing today may be the same guy that ends up helping you on the side of the road when your "perfectly built" car breaks down. I know this first hand because a particular guy that had decided to get into it with me a few years back broke down outside David Hodgkins house one year at a BBQ, the night before the HB Cruise-in. Guess who had the socket and wrench he needed in his truck to get this guy back on the road so he could make it to the Cruise-In the next day. You know, I never even got a thank you for the tool loan? As a matter of fact, Kleiner was the one that came into David's back yard and asked me if I had any tools in my work truck. The internet and the forum have a long memory. So don't be surprised if other members/vendors here don't jump in wanting to help you after this roasting. Since I talk to Jeff often, I may have a bit of insight regarding some of the "issues" with this. And while I didn't have a name to go with this before, I now have two since the scheduling and delivery details seem to make this really clear. There are glaring omissions to the 2 page scorched earth story above. I can't and won't speak for Jeff. It appears he's chosen to just move on. This Country is in the midst of one of the most deadly pandemics we have ever seen and I see no mention of traveling across 5 States with a family member know positive with the Covid virus. Possibly exposing Jeff and everyone else you came in contact with. If that was purposely omitted, what else was?