Wayne Presley/VeryCoolParts Build Thread H6 power

[Wayne Presley]

Since my kit should be ready this week to ship I'll let everyone in on the build.
motor EJ20
Ported head - Mid level porting job, 5 angle valve job
JE 9.5 CR pistons
King XPG bearings
ARP head studs
Moroso oil pick up
750cc Deatchwerks injectors
255lph Walbro pump
Garret GT2560 BB turbo

Enkei Kojin Wheels 17x8 18x9.5
Toyo R1R or R888 tires
http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc175/vcpinjectionpb/20130613_112253_zps99b0327e.jpg (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/vcpinjectionpb/media/20130613_112253_zps99b0327e.jpg.html)

Hawk DTC 30 pads

Stand alone car harness
Electromotive TEC-S, special built for VCP to work with the Subaru coil on plug. Built in boost control.

Sparco D ring steering wheel with Sparco adapter
http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc175/vcpinjectionpb/20130616_135422_zps84dbb203.jpg (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/vcpinjectionpb/media/20130616_135422_zps84dbb203.jpg.html)

[metalmaker12]

Nice to meet you at open house Wayne, and I may be interested in some wheels in the coming weeks. Nice set of parts, I have a long list myself. I like the steering wheel to.

Ej207 (jdm Sti)
Stock heads
Stock bottom end
Stock Sti pink injectors
Stock vf37 twin scroll turbo, with stock equal length headers
06 Usdm sti oil pan, killer B larger oil pick up and baffle
Perrin inlet
Custom intake
Open source tune of jdm sti ecu and Usdm wrx ecu
Dieted 2002 usdm wrx harness with avcs provisions
Dw55 fuel pump
Sparco steering wheel
Etc etc, but cool stuff and it should all be fun . I will make 300-335whp 315-340wheel torque with a redline of 8700. The ej207 revs out great .

We gotta retro the wipers to one blade as you mentioned, I took a look today, should not be too bad.

[07FIREBLADE]

Cant wait to see your build. Keep up the post/pics. Very exciting. Any reason you guys are choosing the ej20 over ej25s? And stand alone harness? Details plz if possible.

[metalmaker12]

I just like the rev of the ej207 and for a light weight car with a 5spd and high rev, I will have very long gears and that's why I decided on it. The 2.0's tend to like rev better at stock and moderate engine builds. You can make a 2.5 get their to, just my preference for this build. I like the 2.5 is better in the wrx

[Canadian818]

I just did some searching for a version 7 or 8 EJ20, and wow their expensive! You could almost get a 06 donor for that. Do you guys have a good connection for engines? Or are you just baller? haha

[flytosail]

Tire size?

[metalmaker12]

I got one for 3,700, I am not a baller lol, just a fabricator/ welder that stays busy. I know the front wheels were 17's , and maybe 235/40s and the rears were 255/40r18

[Jeff Kleiner]

Can't wait to see the world famous caulk gun make it's appearance in the build photos Wayne ;)

http://www.verycoolparts.com/jf2l.JPG

You gonna' make it to London next weekend?

Jeff

[bil1024]

Looking foward to the build

[Wayne Presley]

Can't wait to see the world famous caulk gun make it's appearance in the build photos Wayne ;)

http://www.verycoolparts.com/jf2l.JPG

You gonna' make it to London next weekend?

Jeff


The caulk gun will be present. I'm going to be at Roebling Road next weekend for 2 solid days of open track fun.

[bstuke]

Looks great Wayne! Love the Kojin look. Are you staying 5X100 or going 5X114?

Jeff, thanks for the reminder, can't make it, but need to buy raffle tickets..

[65 Cobra Dude]

Great to see you Saturday Wayne and I am looking forward to watching the build. Roebling Road is a great track with close to a mile long straight and some good off-camber corners. Have a blast.

Henry

[longislandwrx]

Wayne

Nice meeting you at the open house. Good luck with the build. I forgot to ask which turbo do you plan on running?

[Wayne Presley]

Wayne

Nice meeting you at the open house. Good luck with the build. I forgot to ask which turbo do you plan on running?
I have a GT2560R sitting on the shelf that is going on the car. If it isn't big enough once I get it on my dyno I'll spring for a GT2871R which has the same footprint. I am a Garrett dealer so I'll swap turbine housings to find out which works best.

[Mechie3]

I had DTC-30 pads on my 06wrx for DD duty. Squealed like crazy and dusty as all get out. I remember my friend going along for a ride in the neighborhood (just put a new motor in) and he asked how well the brakes worked with those pads. I was only doing about 30, but he smacked his head on the windshield. I didn't know he wasn't buckled up. Lol.

[Bobg]

Wayne:
What club is running at Roebling this weekend and what are you driving?

[philly15]

I have a GT2560R sitting on the shelf that is going on the car. If it isn't big enough once I get it on my dyno I'll spring for a GT2871R which has the same footprint. I am a Garrett dealer so I'll swap turbine housings to find out which works best.

i love the gt2871r on of my favorite turbos. im going to switch to that or my other favorite, the blouch 1.5xtr, after i get my setup where i want it else where. until then, ported polished and coated vf43 it is!

[bstuke]

Wayne:
What club is running at Roebling this weekend and what are you driving? I'm going to go out on a limb and say our buddy Jon Krolewicz. He runs a "Seat Time" program that we all use for test and tune, and testosterone tuning as well.. Jon has an awesome program with tons and tons of track time at a really good price.

[Wayne Presley]

Wayne:
What club is running at Roebling this weekend and what are you driving?

It's the MBZ of Buckhead weekend, we'll have 2 track Elises, Elise turbo street car, and a T3 350z nissan. All the track time you could want. Last year I got 10 laps behind the wheel of a 2010 GT3 Porsche. 2 days with all the track time you can stand, dinner on River street Saturday night, BBQ at the track Sunday. What's not to like :D

[bstuke]

It's the MBZ of Buckhead weekend, we'll have 2 track Elises, Elise turbo street car, and a T3 350z nissan. All the track time you could want. Last year I got 10 laps behind the wheel of a 2010 GT3 Porsche. 2 days with all the track time you can stand, dinner on River street Saturday night, BBQ at the track Sunday. What's not to like :D

Dang I wish I could go... Got a car in the garage I gotta take apart.. Tell everyone hello..

[Wayne Presley]

Dang I wish I could go... Got a car in the garage I gotta take apart.. Tell everyone hello..

That's only 6 hours of work, you got time...

[Hayai]

Nice to meet you at the open house Wane, looking forward to your build thread!

[ClemsonS197]

255lph Walbro pump


Wayne,

Just an opinion here, but the latest Walbros are junk. Most of my Mustang friends have ditched them (due to failure). Mine failed on my Roadster after ~2 hours of run time with less than 5 miles of go-cart. Not sure if they moved factories, or what changed, but after asking around it seemed to be a general consensus. Your mileage may very.

[riptide motorsport]

It's the MBZ of Buckhead weekend, we'll have 2 track Elises, Elise turbo street car, and a T3 350z nissan. All the track time you could want. Last year I got 10 laps behind the wheel of a 2010 GT3 Porsche. 2 days with all the track time you can stand, dinner on River street Saturday night, BBQ at the track Sunday. What's not to like :D

Damn.....musta misplaced my invitation!!!:)

[bstuke]

That's only 6 hours of work, you got time...

My thought was after selling the lake house, ski boat, sailboat, and two kayaks, I would have a lot more time on my hands.

Not so. I did get a little work done yesterday. alternator off, PS pump off. Most everything off the motor but the fuel lines. Almost ready to pull the motor. Maybe later this week or Saturday.

Have fun, absolutely love that track.

[metalmaker12]

Wayne,

Just an opinion here, but the latest Walbros are junk. Most of my Mustang friends have ditched them (due to failure). Mine failed on my Roadster after ~2 hours of run time with less than 5 miles of go-cart. Not sure if they moved factories, or what changed, but after asking around it seemed to be a general consensus. Your mileage may very.
I concur they are junk now

[wallace18]

I concur they are junk now

What pump do you suggest? I bought a walbro from AJW. What kind of problems are they having?

[Wayne Presley]

Damn.....musta misplaced my invitation!!!:)

All you had to do is ask, there are all sorts of cars brought to the event. $500 for both days, Sat dinner and Sun lunch.

[metalmaker12]

What pump do you suggest? I bought a walbro from AJW. What kind of problems are they having?

Stock up 300hp ,aeromotive, I and my tuner friends have just had bad luck with walpro lately, maybe a bad batch, so your prob fine.

[Wayne Presley]

Great to see you Saturday Wayne and I am looking forward to watching the build. Roebling Road is a great track with close to a mile long straight and some good off-camber corners. Have a blast.

Henry

The track is fun, I've got the lap record in SCCA Touring 3 at 1:20.8


Nice to meet you at the open house Wane, looking forward to your build thread!

Great meeting you and everyone else at the Open House.




Have fun, absolutely love that track.

I'll try to have fun

[papajon1000]

What pump do you suggest? I bought a walbro from AJW. What kind of problems are they having?

Also deatschwerks makes fuel pumps. I have my eye on the DW300 or, like metalmaker said, the Aeromotive

http://www.deatschwerks.com/products/fuel-pumps

[Silvertop]

255lph Walbro pump


How many HP is the stock pump good for? Any reliability issues with them otherwise?

[metalmaker12]

Deatschwerks and aeromotive, the stock pump is good for about 300 whp max, but that's why a upgrade is just a good idea. Walpro used to make a great pump, but of late they are not great

[Wayne Presley]

I'm a dealer for Deatschwerks so if you want pumps or injectors I can supply them. One of my donors had the Walbro pump in it is the reason I'm using it. Might have to go with the DW300 if I decide to go E85... :D

[Nuul]

Wayne, can we still get the rebate for the stock injectors if we buy them through you?

[Wayne Presley]

What rebate?

[bnr32jason]

I think he's talking about a the core charge.

[Mitch Wright]

Wayne, whats the back spacing on the wheels you are using?

[IMPREZvWRX]

I've run Walbros in my Subarus for the past 12 years without issues, but I did recently change one out in favor of a DW300 for my E85 setup.

I believe I still have the stock STI pump that came on my fuel pickup if anyone wants it.

[Wayne Presley]

Wayne, whats the back spacing on the wheels you are using?

They are 17x8 and 18x9.5 with 45mm offsets. We'll see how they fit next week.

[Mechie3]

I have 18x9.5+48's. I'm very interested in seeing how they fit.

[Jeff Kleiner]

I'll try to have fun

I've never known you to have to TRY too hard; fun pretty much just follows you around ;)

Jeff

[Wayne Presley]

I've never known you to have to TRY too hard; fun pretty much just follows you around ;)

Jeff

I have no idea what you are talking about...

[Nuul]

What rebate?

Their site says you get a rebate form when the product arrives. I wasn't sure if that was exclusive to ordering it from the factory or if it comes in the box regardless of who I buy them from. I have the dark blue WRX injectors in my donor so I'd get $200 if I send them my old ones.

http://www.deatschwerks.com/products/fuel-injectors/sport-compact/subaru/sti/2007-12-sti/21s-01-1000-4-detail

[Wayne Presley]

Their site says you get a rebate form when the product arrives. I wasn't sure if that was exclusive to ordering it from the factory or if it comes in the box regardless of who I buy them from. I have the dark blue WRX injectors in my donor so I'd get $200 if I send them my only ones.

http://www.deatschwerks.com/products/fuel-injectors/sport-compact/subaru/sti/2007-12-sti/21s-01-1000-4-detail


The rebate is directly from DW and the injectors bought from me would be included. There are only certain injectors that are part of the rebate offer so check to be sure yours are part of the program. Looks like they are.

[Nuul]

The rebate is directly from DW and the injectors bought from me would be included. There are only certain injectors that are part of the rebate offer so check to be sure yours are part of the program. Looks like they are.

Sweet. Can you PM me a price on those? I promise no more thread hijacking :D

[Wayne Presley]

PM sent, I'm doing an order later today so I can include yours if you reply soon

[bstuke]

They are 17x8 and 18x9.5 with 45mm offsets. We'll see how they fit next week.

Close enough to 40?

[Wayne Presley]

Close enough to 40?

I went more so if its too much, I'll use spacers

[Erik W. Treves]

I went more so if its too much, I'll use spacers

Me 2... B-)

[David]

Wayne, REALLY looking forward to following your build. :D I love those wheels!

David

[Wayne Presley]

Erik's Raijin wheels showed up first and I thought, "I bought the wrong wheels!". Then mine showed up 2 days later and saw that the Kojins looked just as good.

And as a side note if you ever get to drive a Mercedes SLS at the race track, you should do it. Amazing car and what a sound it makes with the V8 at 7500 rpm down the front straight!

[bstuke]

if you ever get to drive a Mercedes SLS at the race trackWaiting patiently for the video... :rolleyes:

[bstuke]

Erik's Raijin wheels showed up first The Raijin's are very FR500ish. They both look great!

[Wayne Presley]

Waiting patiently for the video... :rolleyes:

I would have loved to have grabbed my GoPro but that was all the way down at the trailer and I wasn't going to risk him changing his mind to let me drive it while I walked down to get the camera. The car is so cool that the factory NAV system will lap time for you and has quite a few tracks start/finish lines already preprogrammed. It was running 155mph when I got on the brakes in turn 1.

[jkrueger]

Erik's Raijin wheels showed up first and I thought, "I bought the wrong wheels!". Then mine showed up 2 days later and saw that the Kojins looked just as good.

And as a side note if you ever get to drive a Mercedes SLS at the race track, you should do it. Amazing car and what a sound it makes with the V8 at 7500 rpm down the front straight!

There was a guy at the one lap of america race this year with one and we were all amazed at the sound as well. Sounded like a jet going by. Absolutely no normal engine noise. It was the weirdest thing.

JC

[RM1SepEx]

Anyone used these before???

http://www.ebay.com/itm/AeroCatch-Aero-Catch-Plus-Flush-White-Hood-Latch-Kit-Hood-Pins-120-2000-01/221181618988?_trksid=p2047675.m1850&_trkparms=aid%3D222002%26algo%3DSIC.FIT%26ao%3D1%2 6asc%3D15850%26meid%3D8608931592526465082%26pid%3D 100011%26prg%3D7578%26rk%3D1%26sd%3D321061974896%2 6

[07FIREBLADE]

Used to have those pins on my integra. Going to implement those into my 818 but in black.

[FFR-ADV]

Hi Wayne,

It was very nice to meet you at the open house.

You mentioned that the Cusco LSD was much cleaner than some of the other LSDs which left metal flakes in the transmission fluid. What are the tradeoffs between the Quaife (Torsen style) and the Cusco (Clutches). How long does the Cusco clutches last between rebuilds? The Quaife has lifetime guarantee and the Cusco needs periodic clutch rebuilds (how often?). I am still trying to figure out which LSD will be best for my 818SR build. I want to understand the trade-offs to make as informed a choice as I can.

Wayne, Metalmaker, RM1SepEx and others,

What do you recommend and why? Thank you for any help you can provide.

Cheers!

[RM1SepEx]

There is a detailed thread somewhere

all out racing, clutch type, adjustable but req maint
street/autocross use torsen (Quaife, OBX , OBX must be rebuilt before use, Erik did a nice piece on that) no maint works well for all around use

IMNSHO haha

I'm using a quaife for my street/autocross machine, possible track day beastie

[Wayne Presley]

The Quaife with the lifetime warranty is hard to beat. Very smooth, a little less money than the Cusco. I can get either for you.

[Wayne Presley]

Anyone used these before???

http://www.ebay.com/itm/AeroCatch-Aero-Catch-Plus-Flush-White-Hood-Latch-Kit-Hood-Pins-120-2000-01/221181618988?_trksid=p2047675.m1850&_trkparms=aid%3D222002%26algo%3DSIC.FIT%26ao%3D1%2 6asc%3D15850%26meid%3D8608931592526465082%26pid%3D 100011%26prg%3D7578%26rk%3D1%26sd%3D321061974896%2 6

Not my favorite look but they work well most of the time. I had one on a Lotus 211 that would occasionally not want to release.

[RM1SepEx]

I don't like the look of the old school hood pins on a street car... looking for alternatives

[longislandwrx]

The aerocatch are nice. get the top mount. The bottom mount are smaller but real hard to get a good look so people end up using trim rings.

You have to keep them clean, as gunk can get in the spring/latch mechanism.

http://www.quik-latch.com/quik-latch-mini-latch.html

are cool too. They hold 150lbs each.

[Frank818]

http://www.quik-latch.com/quik-latch-mini-latch.html

are cool too. They hold 150lbs each.

You just push on the button and it unlatches?
That's kinda nice, I like the idea.

[MurrayT]

Thanks for the Quik-Latch tip.
Now planning on using them on my 818R.

[Erik W. Treves]

There are 2 of them included in the kit

[Frank818]

What happens when you lock up the doors and park the car?
Do the latches lock up as well or anyone could open the hood?

[Mechie3]

I think those latches are just simple push buttons, not lockable. You'd need something like locking aerocatch pins.

http://www.turnermotorsport.com/p-1800-aerocatch-racing-hood-and-body-panel-fasteners-pair-better-than-hood-pins.aspx?utm_source=goog_product&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=AEROCATCH&gclid=CP_Ux6Cr_7cCFUVyQgodbBwAlg

[flynntuna]

Security systems are on you... Protected by Smith & Wesson. LOL

[Frank818]

Ok, good to know. tnx

[FFR-ADV]

The Quaife with the lifetime warranty is hard to beat. Very smooth, a little less money than the Cusco. I can get either for you.

Thank You Wayne.

[Silvertop]

The Quaife with the lifetime warranty is hard to beat. Very smooth, a little less money than the Cusco. I can get either for you.

Wayne -- I'd like one. I sent you a PM earlier today. Need to know how many $$, and best way to proceed.

[Wayne Presley]

Wayne -- I'd like one. I sent you a PM earlier today. Need to know how many $$, and best way to proceed.


I'll look it up tomorrow, I was driving to get my 818 today.

[07FIREBLADE]

Can you at least confirm what is in the disassembly manual is final. Since you cant/wont reveal any info from the beta build manual

[Silvertop]

I'll look it up tomorrow, I was driving to get my 818 today.

Well, I guess you get a free pass for that!:)

[Wayne Presley]

Well my 818 is home, still in the trailer as I needed to work on the motor. JE pistons, ported heads, King bearings, SpecClutch, etc....

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc175/vcpinjectionpb/20130626_161444_zpsf1419c67.jpg (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/vcpinjectionpb/media/20130626_161444_zpsf1419c67.jpg.html)

[metalmaker12]

Nice Wayne

[Frank818]

Looks like no more free pass, Wayne... :)

[Erik W. Treves]

TTT :p

[Wayne Presley]

Well I finally go to work on the car today and got this far


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[metalmaker12]

Wayne your running abs? Can I ask why you are choosing to do so. Looking good man

[bstuke]

Would have got more done if people wouldn't call you.. Great progress Wayne!

[Mechie3]

Is the seat mounted yet? The harness openings look much more in line with the bar behind it.

Did you have the same issues with having to remove some minor ancillary items to get it to fit? Any reason you went motor trans first vs Erik's method of suspension then motor?

[rjh2pd]

If im not mistake you should be able to turn abs off via pulling the fuse, or flipping a switch (if installed) without effecting the braking system correct? I would install abs and have a switch in an at least semi hidden place. It's looking good

[Wayne Presley]

Wayne your running abs? Can I ask why you are choosing to do so. Looking good man

I'm running ABS to see if it will work and how well it works. Why not, its free with the donor...


Is the seat mounted yet? The harness openings look much more in line with the bar behind it.

Did you have the same issues with having to remove some minor ancillary items to get it to fit? Any reason you went motor trans first vs Erik's method of suspension then motor?

The seat is just sitting in the car and I don't know if that is the seat I'm going to use. I put the engine in first because the motor will not be in the way of the suspension install but the suspension will be in the way of the motor install.


If im not mistake you should be able to turn abs off via pulling the fuse, or flipping a switch (if installed) without effecting the braking system correct? I would install abs and have a switch in an at least semi hidden place. It's looking good

Why would I want to turn off the ABS when I could just not install it???

[WIS89]

Vary cool build thread there Mr. Very Cool Parts!!

Although I am not building an 818, I really enjoy watching your and Erik's build. You all are really humming along and doing some awesome work! Thanks for keeping us updated. I respect how much effort it must take while also trying to run a business and build a car. It is quite selfless! Thanks!

Please keep us posted; it is really awesome...

Regards,

Steve

[metalmaker12]

I guess you got a point to try to use the abs, I'm not but it might be a good feature. I too will put the engine in first, I am pulling my headers etc, which is on my build thread. I just got home from stripping a donor since 3:30am

[Samiam1017]

Wayne are you running the booster too?

[THE ITALIAN]

I'll say it again......."I feel sorry for those first guys who start their build"

Wayne !!! where's the sub-woofer going?

[Wayne Presley]

I'll say it again......."I feel sorry for those first guys who start their build"

Wayne !!! where's the sub-woofer going?

It's actually gone together fairly uneventfully to this point. I'm trying out a different build schedule than Erik to see which is the more efficient order of build.

[RM1SepEx]

Did you drop the engine and transaxle in w/o the header?

[Wayne Presley]

Did you drop the engine and transaxle in w/o the header?


Yes, I tried with them on and it was just a little more snug than I wanted to deal with so I popped the headers off

[RM1SepEx]

you have room to put them on after installation...

[metalmaker12]

Yea FFR had them off when I viewed the s two weeks before open house

[RM1SepEx]

I think that I'd like to double up the firewall and insulate between the frame tubes for heat and quiet, thoughts?

[metalmaker12]

Yea that might be a good idea, I like the noise of the engine though, but it might help with slight rattles and creeks, plus some help dramatically with heat

[Wayne Presley]

you have room to put them on after installation...

Tons of room

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc175/vcpinjectionpb/20130630_152252_zps7adb7cc2.jpg (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/vcpinjectionpb/media/20130630_152252_zps7adb7cc2.jpg.html)

[bstuke]

Wayne,

What are these items?
And is the piece round thing that looks like it is copper striped flat up against the block? I think somewhere in this area is where I have a pretty major leak. I'll post some pictures of mine.

19321

[Wayne Presley]

That is a water to oil heat exchanger, they seem to leak from there but I have now really looked into a solution other than some Three Bond (Yamabond, Hondabond, etc.) on the O-ring.

[RM1SepEx]

Tons of room

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc175/vcpinjectionpb/20130630_152252_zps7adb7cc2.jpg (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/vcpinjectionpb/media/20130630_152252_zps7adb7cc2.jpg.html)

excellent... looks like a plan is coming together!

[blueoval_bowtie_guy]

Add another one to your list of 'watchers'. I think posting moves me from being a 'lurker' to a 'watcher'... :) Keep up the great work and thank you for keeping us informed!

[Mechie3]

That pic reminds me. There's probably quite a few people who would love to know the distance from the front of the crank pulley to the frame rail.

[Silvertop]

That pic reminds me. There's probably quite a few people who would love to know the distance from the front of the crank pulley to the frame rail.

I certainly would.

[Wayne Presley]

That pic reminds me. There's probably quite a few people who would love to know the distance from the front of the crank pulley to the frame rail.


I certainly would.
2.125"


Car porn...

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc175/vcpinjectionpb/20130701_120231_zpsdf98b4e8.jpg (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/vcpinjectionpb/media/20130701_120231_zpsdf98b4e8.jpg.html)

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc175/vcpinjectionpb/20130701_115659_zps6c3800b8.jpg (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/vcpinjectionpb/media/20130701_115659_zps6c3800b8.jpg.html)

This is the shifter kit that I'm working on. Details to follow

[Silvertop]

Sexy looking shift gizzy..............

[Mechie3]

Awww yeah!

Is that an aftermarket boxster shift mechanism or something you whipped up yourself.

Edit: I'm dumb. I was too absorbed by the pics to read anything.

[wleehendrick]

This is the shifter kit that I'm working on.
Drool... 19360

[longislandwrx]

This is the shifter kit that I'm working on. Details to follow

sold. K-tuned rsx cable shifter? SMART.

[C.Plavan]

Me likey the shifter!

[blueoval_bowtie_guy]

I really like the shifter too. I've driven a Boxster and was not impressed with the shifter.

[wildbill]

So now you have to leave the boot off....can't cover that up, as it's too cool. Maybe design an inverted boot to go underneath.....lol.

[bstuke]

I swear I didn't tell anyone... I like that it is lower and looks to have a shorter throw and position capability..

[Wayne Presley]

It is actually their newest shifter (not the RSX box) that was released last Friday, I'll have a kit for the 818 with cables. It will mate up with the FFR trans brackets and arms. And it will be mounted just like you see, billet out in the open. I just can't see putting a boot over it.

[FFR-ADV]

That K-Tuned shifter is striking mechanical art. Thank you for bringing it together for us.

Here is a video I found describing the RSX version (not the same but you get the general idea):


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=nMuVSUqdbdQ

This looks like Wayne's shifter:

19366

http://k-tuned.3dcartstores.com/No-Cut-K-Swap-Shifter_p_285.html

[metalmaker12]

Nice Wayne I will have one, lets make a deal

[metalmaker12]

It is actually their newest shifter (not the RSX box) that was released last Friday, I'll have a kit for the 818 with cables. It will mate up with the FFR trans brackets and arms. And it will be mounted just like you see, billet out in the open. I just can't see putting a boot over it.
I agree leave it out in the open, dead sexy

[fateo66]

What id the original 818 shifter out of?

Also what are those seats out of?

[Frank818]

So this is not a FFR shifter it's K-Tuned?
What are the specs? How short the throw, precision, sound, etc...

I've never seen one looking that good (apart from the Pagani's shifter linkage or is it Spkyer's? Damn I can't recall).

Well I try to cut on my total cost, but WTH, here goes another 430 bucks loll

[Frank818]

I viewed the video. Son of a B this thing has been well designed. The sounds looks amazing and that is on video not installed on any car.

I cannot imagine anyone installing a boot over that, that is like buying a Ferrari and swapping a Toyota Corolla engine in it.

How can you properly adjust that cable stopper? I mean do you have to run the engine and see when the gear engages? Or engine shut off it's sufficient?

[JAubin]

Dammit. Every time Wayne posts something he's planning on offering I have to update my "Cost" spreadsheet. Things are coming together nicely, nice work so far!

[Mechie3]

Dammit. Every time Wayne posts something he's planning on offering I have to update my "Cost" spreadsheet. Things are coming together nicely, nice work so far!

I update my "can I reverse engineer and make this" list myself. lol

[Wayne Presley]

I update my "can I reverse engineer and make this" list myself. lol

Good luck on making the shifter, the detail work and parts on it are spectacular :D I saw the shifter at the PRI show last year and knew it had to go in the car...

[WIS89]

Wayne-

Crazy awesome shifter!! Now, can you make one for the Roadster?

You are right, that can't be covered. What a wonderful work of art that is!! Keep setting that bar high!

Regards,

Steve

[Erik W. Treves]

Good luck on making the shifter, the detail work and parts on it are spectacular :D I saw the shifter at the PRI show last year and knew it had to go in the car...

"we" Mav... lol

[JAubin]

I update my "can I reverse engineer and make this" list myself. lol Hah that thoughts definitely crossed my mind, then "hrmmm do I really want to spend all that time designing and machining that thing?" Probably not! Figure I have plenty of small projects both part cleanup and making brackets, etc. to keep me busy for a while anyway.

[Mechie3]

It's definitely one of those things that gets put at the bottom of the list in the "ehhh....is it really worth all that time?". lol.

[Wayne Presley]

"we" Mav... lol

OK Erik and I saw the RSX version and it was a work of art and knew it had to go in the car, the new No-Cut version is way cooler..

[Kempo]

Very interesting stuff. I'm subscribing to this thread keep that info coming.

[Erik W. Treves]

Without the sounding weird...the "action" of the shift was amazing...very very percise. It felt really, really good...it was almost addictive.. I am very thankful that Wayne is working to get this item fitted to the 818... Thanks!!!

[Frank818]

"ehhh....is it really worth all that time?". lol.

It's worth the money to me!! :)

[Frank818]

Without the sounding weird...the "action" of the shift was amazing...very very percise. It felt really, really good...it was almost addictive..

This is why we need a 6-sp tranny! lolll :)

Tnx Wayne for making it work (the shifter, not the 6-sp... yet :))

[metros]

Gorgeous. Watched the entire video of it in action with mouth agape.

This thread should be titled "Wayne creates new and exciting ways to overshoot your build budget".

[Turboguy]

Gorgeous. Watched the entire video of it in action with mouth agape.

This thread should be titled "Wayne creates new and exciting ways to overshoot your build budget".


My guess is that the comments in the "budget" thread made by previously experienced builder's saying to "take your initial budget accounting for everything and then double it" are now starting to make sense to some of the first-timers :D



This looks like a pretty trick piece. Going to have to make room for it in my 818R for sure!

[Sergio]

Great work as always Wayne, Love the shifter also !
Always an Innovator man, you inspired me to build a MKI FFR back in 1998 when I saw the Purple Ape and you are doing it again with this build, right now I am restoring my 1970 Nova but when I am done I will build one of them 818s ! hopefully you'll have a few cool products for it soon.

[StatGSR]

Wayne-

Crazy awesome shifter!! Now, can you make one for the Roadster?


Don't the Roadsters still use an actual linkage for shifting? keep in mind this cable shifter is designed for Hondas that originally had solid linkage (Civics, Integras, etc) swapping a Honda K-series engine (from RSX,TSX, Civic SI, etc) into the front of a the car. Its a fantastic piece from K-tuned and I'm very excited to see how Wayne has to modify it it to work with the cabling coming from the back of the car.

more pictures of this pretty $355 piece here. http://www.jhpusa.com/store/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=12533

That said, what shifter box comes with the kit out of the box? is it custom from FFR or something out an MR2 or similar?

[wleehendrick]

That said, what shifter box comes with the kit out of the box? is it custom from FFR or something out an MR2 or similar?

Porsche Boxster (so I've heard).

[Kempo]

That said, what shifter box comes with the kit out of the box? is it custom from FFR or something out an MR2 or similar?


IIRC the one I saw on the 818R at SEMA last year looks exactly like the one on the GTM kit with the Mendeola transaxle. If its the same one its from a 03-08 Toyota Corolla/Matrix.

[Wayne Presley]

It's in and it works great. I made some transmission brackets as the one of the cables moves opposite of the FFR supplied shifter. The bracket under the shifter is just for mock up and placement adjustment.

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc175/vcpinjectionpb/20130703_174055_zpsf28bad8d.jpg (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/vcpinjectionpb/media/20130703_174055_zpsf28bad8d.jpg.html)

[Frank818]

Man that thing rocks... does it rock, man does it...

[mofpa01]

Is that the same fuel tank that they are using on the Hot Rod?


It's in and it works great. I made some transmission brackets as the one of the cables moves opposite of the FFR supplied shifter. The bracket under the shifter is just for mock up and placement adjustment.

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc175/vcpinjectionpb/20130703_174055_zpsf28bad8d.jpg (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/vcpinjectionpb/media/20130703_174055_zpsf28bad8d.jpg.html)

[Olli]

That sure does look like the HR fuel tank. Get that thing out of there and get a Boyd tank built for EFI with an in-tank pump.

Olli

[4wheelspin]

It looks like the gas tank is the same one as the 33 Hot Rod. If so you better get it pressure tested for leaks. They are known for some leaks.

[narkosys]

...or save yourself the trouble and get the tank (http://www.boydwelding.com/shop/index.php/factory-five-33-hot-rod-stealth-efi.html) from Boyd's :p

[Wayne Presley]

That sure does look like the HR fuel tank. Get that thing out of there and get a Boyd tank built for EFI with an in-tank pump.

Olli


It looks like the gas tank is the same one as the 33 Hot Rod. If so you better get it pressure tested for leaks. They are known for some leaks.


...or save yourself the trouble and get the tank (http://www.boydwelding.com/shop/index.php/factory-five-33-hot-rod-stealth-efi.html) from Boyd's :p

Or you could have contacted Boyd's last week and supplied them with drawings for a 818 specific tank that can give 3" more legroom and just about the same capacity...:D

[Canadian818]

Or you could have contacted Boyd's last week and supplied them with drawings for a 818 specific tank that can give 3" more legroom and just about the same capacity...:D

Nice!

[Mechie3]

It looks like the gas tank is the same one as the 33 Hot Rod. If so you better get it pressure tested for leaks. They are known for some leaks.

:unamused:

Known to leak from the factory, or known to leak over time?

[bstuke]

Hopefully some kind of FuelSafe for the R?

[Frank818]

...or save yourself the trouble and get the tank (http://www.boydwelding.com/shop/index.php/factory-five-33-hot-rod-stealth-efi.html) from Boyd's :p

Why is that tank better?

[PhyrraM]

It looks like the gas tank is the same one as the 33 Hot Rod. If so you better get it pressure tested for leaks. They are known for some leaks.

Wouldn't FFR just warrantee a leaky tank, assuming it was leaky from them?

[riptide motorsport]

No the roadsters shifter arm goes straight into the top of the tranny.




Don't the Roadsters still use an actual linkage for shifting? keep in mind this cable shifter is designed for Hondas that originally had solid linkage (Civics, Integras, etc) swapping a Honda K-series engine (from RSX,TSX, Civic SI, etc) into the front of a the car. Its a fantastic piece from K-tuned and I'm very excited to see how Wayne has to modify it it to work with the cabling coming from the back of the car.

more pictures of this pretty $355 piece here. http://www.jhpusa.com/store/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=12533

That said, what shifter box comes with the kit out of the box? is it custom from FFR or something out an MR2 or similar?

[Canadian818]

Why is that tank better?

Aluminum maybe? Baffled? Blatter? Foam? Lots of upgrades to increase the price and quality.

I like Wayne's idea of making more leg room, and looking at some pics it seems that there's defiantly room to make the tank larger by making it taller.

I plan to make a baffled aluminum tank, but that will be during winter 2015 upgrades. Gotta see if its neccesary.

[Frank818]

Yeah pricier, I get it. :)

In my case I don't mind a very very very big tank, as I am only 5.6. Actually I prefer the biggest tank possible, like 18-20gallons. But I guess so far only 13gal exist.

BTW, nobody has any idea of the potential fuel consumption? Yeah I know it varies depending on weight and power, but anyone has a reference whatsoever?

Not that I care "that" much, but just for the fun of knowing.

[Wayne Presley]

Most cars have about a 350-375 mile range, and 818 getting 30 mpg with a 13 gallon tank gives you 390 mile range (6+ hours). How much more do you need?

[Erik W. Treves]

I have to stop and pee just thinking about that....

[Frank818]

30mpg? That is pretty nice then.

[Xusia]

Or you could have contacted Boyd's last week and supplied them with drawings for a 818 specific tank that can give 3" more legroom and just about the same capacity...:D

But I'm guessing you already did that. Nice! (and thanks!)

[metros]

So what other specialty parts are in the works Wayne? No more sandbagging...

Anything focused towards track performance?

[Wayne Presley]

What me sandbag??? :D

There are a few things Erik and I are working on.

[metros]

What me sandbag??? :D

There are a few things Erik and I are working on.

Maybe you could just PM me my new build budget once you're through adding things to it. :)

[Xusia]

Maybe you could just PM me my new build budget once you're through adding things to it. :)

Hahahahahahahahaha!

[Wayne Presley]

Maybe you could just PM me my new build budget once you're through adding things to it.

Now that's funny!!!!!!!!

I'll have more pics tomorrow of Saturdays progress. I took today off :D

[NicksPapaw]

It's tomorrow. Where are the pics? ;)

[Wayne Presley]

It's tomorrow. Where are the pics? ;)

Alright already.... :D

Front suspension and brake lines run

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc175/vcpinjectionpb/WRXparts/P1020166_zps7f8809ef.jpg (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/vcpinjectionpb/media/WRXparts/P1020166_zps7f8809ef.jpg.html)

VCP Track spec rear lateral link package

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc175/vcpinjectionpb/WRXparts/P1020164_zps4a02e222.jpg (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/vcpinjectionpb/media/WRXparts/P1020164_zps4a02e222.jpg.html)


VCP wide wheel trailing arm

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc175/vcpinjectionpb/WRXparts/P1020165_zpsb9d8ef94.jpg (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/vcpinjectionpb/media/WRXparts/P1020165_zpsb9d8ef94.jpg.html)

[Mechie3]

Will those VCP trailing arms be offered for sale?

[Wayne Presley]

Will those VCP trailing arms be offered for sale?

As soon as I completely verify fitment they will be available. I'm running a 18x9.5" wheel, do not want to run wheel spacers, and keep a big tire under the stock fenders.

[07FIREBLADE]

Looks amazing. What calipers are you running if you dont mind me asking and how is the abs implementation going. I see the abs unit is still in the chassis.

[Mechie3]

As soon as I completely verify fitment they will be available. I'm running a 18x9.5" wheel, do not want to run wheel spacers, and keep a big tire under the stock fenders.

Sounds good (since I have the same size wheels).

[Wayne Presley]

Looks amazing. What calipers are you running if you dont mind me asking and how is the abs implementation going. I see the abs unit is still in the chassis.


All plumbed

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc175/vcpinjectionpb/20130708_150807_zpsecda28cf.jpg (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/vcpinjectionpb/media/20130708_150807_zpsecda28cf.jpg.html)

[Wayne Presley]

Brakes and clutch are bled! Now this is really the easy way to do it...less than 10 min by myself :D
Motive Products kit 0107 has the bleeder and correct adapter for the Subie

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc175/vcpinjectionpb/20130708_165943_zpsc511bc5f.jpg (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/vcpinjectionpb/media/20130708_165943_zpsc511bc5f.jpg.html)

[Frank818]

What trailing arm FFR kit is coming with?

[Wayne Presley]

What trailing arm FFR kit is coming with?

What ever your donor came with :D

[Frank818]

Ok I forgot about checking that list! :)

So if I understand you changed the trailing arm to accommodate wider wheels?



P.S.: I am not trying to reach my daily post average! loll

[metros]

Brakes and clutch are bled! Now this is really the easy way to do it...less than 10 min by myself :D
Motive Products kit 0107 has the bleeder and correct adapter for the Subie

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc175/vcpinjectionpb/20130708_165943_zpsc511bc5f.jpg (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/vcpinjectionpb/media/20130708_165943_zpsc511bc5f.jpg.html)

Nice progress. Glad to see the additional products for those wanting a lot of tire under the rear. Looking forward to seeing how it all comes together.

I've always looked at those motive bleeders. They seemed too easy though. Figured they wouldn't work well at all. My wife would be ecstatic if I didn't ask her to help me bleed my brakes anymore.

[NicksPapaw]

Looking good Wayne. One question though. Are you and Erik doing essentially the same build or are there going to be some differences in mods? I know you are both helping with the manual but just curious as to the different paths you two might be taking. Keep posting pics. All of us 818 groupies are dying for the next update. :D

[Wayne Presley]

Saturday update:
Front suspension, totally done. Brakes still bled, Hawk DTC 30 pads installed, wire harness partially installed, headers wrapped, custom shift cables and shift cable bracket, PTFE lined shift cable ends.

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc175/vcpinjectionpb/P1020167_zpsfb04c622.jpg (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/vcpinjectionpb/media/P1020167_zpsfb04c622.jpg.html)

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc175/vcpinjectionpb/P1020168_zpsaa6a3a70.jpg (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/vcpinjectionpb/media/P1020168_zpsaa6a3a70.jpg.html)

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc175/vcpinjectionpb/P1020169_zpsceb85242.jpg (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/vcpinjectionpb/media/P1020169_zpsceb85242.jpg.html)

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc175/vcpinjectionpb/P1020171_zpsec14683c.jpg (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/vcpinjectionpb/media/P1020171_zpsec14683c.jpg.html)

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc175/vcpinjectionpb/P1020172_zps224f7dbb.jpg (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/vcpinjectionpb/media/P1020172_zps224f7dbb.jpg.html)

[metalmaker12]

Wayne , liking your build man, when you getting the better gas tank, I want to get one.

[WIS89]

Wayne-

Looking great! You are really cranking this out! I appreciate you sharing to I can live vicariously through you!!

Regards,

Steve

[Silvertop]

Wayne –

There are disadvantages to being a de facto Beta Builder. People ask you a lot of nuisance questions…………..

Here’s mine – it’s a problem I’m hoping you can help me with:

If you can find the time, could you take a couple of pictures of your engine compartment? One from the engine bay’s right front quadrant looking straight down from above. The other from the rear, underneath the chassis and engine, looking forward along the right side.

The reason? I have commissioned a vendor in Calgary to build a custom exhaust for my NA 818 build. Although my donor is an ’04, I’ll be using an ’06 oilpan in order to use their 4- into-1 EL header which wraps around the front of the oilpan and terminates on the right side of the engine bay. The EL header terminates at the same location as the stock NA header, and the flange is in the same horizontal plane as the rest of the header. The rest of the system will also be custom, since the exhaust tubing at the collector will be larger (2.5”) than the stock system, and whatever FFR provides will probably not be an ideal fit. The vendor’s compact high flow cat will be paired with a shorty muffler to complete the system.

The problem: I need to figure out if there anything in the 818’s frame superstructure likely to keep us from running the exhaust straight back from the header, exiting beneath the body panels at the rear. Or to determine that we will need to run the exhaust up and over the axle and/or transmission and then back down again.

The goal is for my vendor to design a complete system for me that will be pretty much plug-and-play possibly with just the addition of a couple of short straight lengths of exhaust tubing – or a couple of mandrel bends if necessary.

The photos should help us figure that out.

[Wayne Presley]

Wayne –

There are disadvantages to being a de facto Beta Builder. People ask you a lot of nuisance questions…………..



that sounds like a $50 nuisance question....:D

[Silvertop]

You already have my credit card number...................:D

[Wayne Presley]

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc175/vcpinjectionpb/20130714_152315_zpsc45b15a5.jpg (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/vcpinjectionpb/media/20130714_152315_zpsc45b15a5.jpg.html)

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc175/vcpinjectionpb/20130714_152343_zps5d05cf0a.jpg (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/vcpinjectionpb/media/20130714_152343_zps5d05cf0a.jpg.html)

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc175/vcpinjectionpb/20130714_152406_zps0f8eba61.jpg (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/vcpinjectionpb/media/20130714_152406_zps0f8eba61.jpg.html)

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc175/vcpinjectionpb/20130714_152427_zps46cc70e6.jpg (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/vcpinjectionpb/media/20130714_152427_zps46cc70e6.jpg.html)

[Wayne Presley]

Sunday progress
Air to water intercooler and piping done, coolant tubes modified and run. Started harness prep.

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc175/vcpinjectionpb/P1020177_zps3dfe6606.jpg (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/vcpinjectionpb/media/P1020177_zps3dfe6606.jpg.html)

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc175/vcpinjectionpb/P1020175_zpsa899d36e.jpg (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/vcpinjectionpb/media/P1020175_zpsa899d36e.jpg.html)

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc175/vcpinjectionpb/P1020174_zps91423871.jpg (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/vcpinjectionpb/media/P1020174_zps91423871.jpg.html)

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc175/vcpinjectionpb/P1020176_zpsd53917e6.jpg (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/vcpinjectionpb/media/P1020176_zpsd53917e6.jpg.html)

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc175/vcpinjectionpb/P1020178_zps8e534ad5.jpg (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/vcpinjectionpb/media/P1020178_zps8e534ad5.jpg.html)

[fateo66]

What turbo are you running?

[Frank818]

Now we're talking!!!!!!!! THAT is what I call air cooling. :D

[SkiRideDrive]

Looks good. Any shots of the fabrication of the intercooler? I am always curious about internals of things. Thanks for sharing!

[Wayne Presley]

What turbo are you running?

garret GT2560, had it on the shelf

[Mechie3]

Nice. Looks like no room for the trunk, but I like the placement.

[THE ITALIAN]

Where are you picking up the cool water ? Does it have it's own radiator?

[Silvertop]

Wayne -- Thanks for the pictures in post #182. Should help.

[Wayne Presley]

Where are you picking up the cool water ? Does it have it's own radiator?

It has it's own heat exchanger (radiator) and water pump.


Wayne -- Thanks for the pictures in post #182. Should help.

No problem, I oops and added a 0 to the end of the $50 when I charged the card :D


BTW I was kidding about charging the credit card in case the reader lacks the sarcasm gene...

[Silvertop]

........No problem, I oops and added a 0 to the end of the $50 when I charged the card :D


BTW I was kidding about charging the credit card in case the reader lacks the sarcasm gene...

Well, shucks, what's a zero one way or the other anyhow...............?:rolleyes: Not to worry. My sarcasm gene is alive and well!!

[07FIREBLADE]

Are you gonna be selling this air/water intercooler combo.

[Wayne Presley]

Are you gonna be selling this air/water intercooler combo.

Yes, it will be the piping, intercooler, heat exchanger and pump

[Frank818]

Yes, it will be the piping, intercooler, heat exchanger and pump

So you're not using a water tank? I thought you (or was it someone else) said you'd use a 3gal tank. Or maybe it was in another car.



So it fits on where the TMIC (air-to-air) would have been fitted. Nice. :)

[Erik W. Treves]

Are you gonna be selling this air/water intercooler combo.

And I got one of the very first ones of those too :D ... nice piece! Thanks Wayne...

Install/mockup in progress.....

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=19719&d=1373889481

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=19718&d=1373889480

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=19717&d=1373889479

[Wayne Presley]

So you're not using a water tank? I thought you (or was it someone else) said you'd use a 3gal tank. Or maybe it was in another car.



So it fits on where the TMIC (air-to-air) would have been fitted. Nice. :)

The water tank is an option, not really needed on a street car as it's going to be really hard to drive it fast and long enough to heat soak the system on the street.

[Mechie3]

I was going to ask if you were going to have a setup for a non rotated turbo, but it looks like Erik's setup is (mostly) that way.

I'll probably go standard TMIC first (since I have it) and do the AWIC at a later date.

[longislandwrx]

very nice. It's going to be super easy to get the IC under that vent.

some straight pipe and an elbow. score.

[WIS89]

Wayne-

Very elegant solution! I believe these will be very popular. I am really enjoying watching your build. You are clearly very talented and experienced, and the work product shows. I think it is awesome that you are sharing it with the rest of us! Very cool indeed!!

Regards,

Steve

[Frank818]

The water tank is an option, not really needed on a street car as it's going to be really hard to drive it fast and long enough to heat soak the system on the street.

If you mount the exchanger up front I agree there will be quite enough water circulating in the plumbing already.
I also agree it will be hard to drive hard and long enough on the street! :)

As soon as you post a price on your kit, I will update my spreadsheet. lollll Like a couple of others are already doing when you post new stuff. :)

[JRach]

Wayne,
Is there no way to re-clock the compressor side on that turbo and run the charge pipe from the turbo to the intercooler similar to how Eric ran his? Seems like surrounding the 'cold' side of the turbo piping to the intercooler with the hot uppipe and downpipe on either side would make the intercooler have to work even harder.

We've run a similar Air to water intercooler set up w/ heat exchanger and pump at my shop for a customers WRX which returned pretty decent results compared to the stock STI TMIC, where are you running the heat exchanger? up in the front behind the radiator?

Nice work so far, jealous of your progress... august cant come soon enough!

[Wayne Presley]

Wayne,
Is there no way to re-clock the compressor side on that turbo and run the charge pipe from the turbo to the intercooler similar to how Eric ran his? Seems like surrounding the 'cold' side of the turbo piping to the intercooler with the hot uppipe and downpipe on either side would make the intercooler have to work even harder.

We've run a similar Air to water intercooler set up w/ heat exchanger and pump at my shop for a customers WRX which returned pretty decent results compared to the stock STI TMIC, where are you running the heat exchanger? up in the front behind the radiator?

Nice work so far, jealous of your progress... august cant come soon enough!

I've got a couple of heat exchangers that I'm trying out and both will be in front the radiators.

[Wayne Presley]

Wayne,
Is there no way to re-clock the compressor side on that turbo and run the charge pipe from the turbo to the intercooler similar to how Eric ran his? Seems like surrounding the 'cold' side of the turbo piping to the intercooler with the hot uppipe and downpipe on either side would make the intercooler have to work even harder.

We've run a similar Air to water intercooler set up w/ heat exchanger and pump at my shop for a customers WRX which returned pretty decent results compared to the stock STI TMIC, where are you running the heat exchanger? up in the front behind the radiator?

Nice work so far, jealous of your progress... august cant come soon enough!

I've got a couple of heat exchangers that I'm trying out and both will be in front the radiators. That particular turbo has the actuator mounted to inducer side of the housing instead of the bolts holding the compressor housing to the cartridge like most. So I have to live with where it is.

[Frank818]

I've got a couple of heat exchangers that I'm trying out and both will be in front the radiators.

Perfect placement. :)

Wayne, how are you going to send 12v to the pump?
Will you plug to the ignition wire so that the pump starts all the time at ignition? Or do you plan on using a manual switch? Or any other possibility....

[Wayne Presley]

Perfect placement. :)

Wayne, how are you going to send 12v to the pump?

With wires....:D



Will you plug to the ignition wire so that the pump starts all the time at ignition? Or do you plan on using a manual switch? Or any other possibility....

It will be triggered off the injector power wire.

[Frank818]

With wires....:D

Damn, I wanted to do it via bluetooth, out of luck I guess. :)

It will be triggered off the injector power wire.

Ok, never thought about that one, but it's similar to the ignition wire.

[Wayne Presley]

Ok, never thought about that one, but it's similar to the ignition wire.

Similar but not the same. The injector and fuel pump only run for 8 seconds with the engine off, key on. That way you can leave the key on for testing and not have any higher current devices running.

[Wayne Presley]

Or you could have contacted Boyd's last week and supplied them with drawings for a 818 specific tank that can give 3" more legroom and just about the same capacity...:D


Lookie at my new tank.....


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[metalmaker12]

Nice, how much cause I am hoping my drool turns into cash

[Xusia]

Very nice. I was really hoping it would be a tank that left the entire space behind the driver's seat open, but oh well. I'll have to find another space for the subwoofer!

[shim2]

Too bad they couldn't run the tank under the center console like on an MK2 MR2. Would have plenty of space for those sub woofers!

That tank looks amazing.

[David]

Wayne, great looking build, having fun following it! Love your new control arm products. :)

David

[timmy318]

Lookie at my new tank.....


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I like the tank!!! Also the 3 in of extra leg room. Any possibility of you posting the drawings that you gave to Boyd's????

[wallace18]

Do you know if Boyd's will offer this tank for sale like their 33 tank?

[Wayne Presley]

I like the tank!!! Also the 3 in of extra leg room. Any possibility of you posting the drawings that you gave to Boyd's????
Nope, I designed it for Boyd's to produce.


Do you know if Boyd's will offer this tank for sale like their 33 tank?
It will be available from Boyd's with the Aeromotive 340 pump and without for use with the stock Subaru pump. Pricing will be done next week after the test fit.


Wayne, great looking build, having fun following it! Love your new control arm products. :)

David
Thanks David, wanna race to see who's car is done first?

[timmy318]

Nope, I designed it for Boyd's to produce.

Well, that's good enough for me! Either way, there's a possibility of getting the tank for my 818. Mind me asking the capacity of the tank vs the standard? I know you said it was a small difference but I'm just trying to figure out all the little tid-bits :p! Also, thanks for designing it so that others can use it!

[Frank818]

I never thought a fuel tank could look so good. :)

[FFR-ADV]

Hi Wayne,

That is a nice looking Air Water Intercooler design:

19897

This installation is a 700 CFM AWIC in the stock TMIC position and it even looks smaller than a stock TMIC. Have you considered this type of installation?

19898

http://www.iwsti.com/forums/water-meth-injection-nitrous-intercooler-cooling/199117-t-gs-air-water-ic-build.html

By the way I really like that new custom 818 fuel tank! Leg room really matters!

Cheers!

[Wayne Presley]

Well been going full bore getting the shop ready for GrassrootsMotorsports to arrive on Wednesday. Took the afternoon off from cleaning/arranging and worked on the car. Finished up the wiring and tested (less the body lighting), battery hooked up, put in the BOV, intake air temp sensor, and temporarily mounted up the gauges.

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[FFR-ADV]

Very Nice work Wayne. Thank you for sharing.;)

Cheers!

[Mechie3]

Is the battery in the back just to save wiring distance and the associated weight and increase in resistance?

[Wayne Presley]

Is the battery in the back just to save wiring distance and the associated weight and increase in resistance?

It's a light small battery, the battery cable is only 18", ground strap is 12" and my ABS pump is where FFR says to put a full size battery :D

[Erik W. Treves]

Very Nice.... you're ready to crank it!

[longislandwrx]

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any baffles/foam in that tank? I don't see any welds but they could be in the back.

[DaveBoyd]

any baffles/foam in that tank? I don't see any welds but they could be in the back.

There are 2 baffles in the tank around the EFI System.

[David]

Thanks David, wanna race to see who's car is done first?

At the rate I'm going, I'm sure you'll beat me :D. Haha

[THE ITALIAN]

Two distinct locations of the BOV.....Eric vs Wayne.. any advantages to either design? Other than Wayne's job being custom?

[Ironhydroxide]

Two distinct locations of the BOV.....Eric vs Wayne.. any advantages to either design? Other than Wayne's job being custom?

IF it's an atmospheric unit, I believe the best location is directly after the turbo close as possible to eliminate the harmonic issues.

if its a recirculating unit, Stock they put it AFTER the intercooler so as to not constantly heat the air by passing it through the turbo without cooling. This was one thing Subaru learned in the ver 1-4 models WRX, which had the BPV PRE intercooler.

[FFR-ADV]

Hi DaveBoyd,

What is the difference between the EFI and non-EFI models you make for the 33 Hot Rod (new fuel pump vs donor?)?

Great looking tanks! Leg room is critical to the 818.

Thanks for working with Wayne on this!

[Wayne Presley]

Two distinct locations of the BOV.....Eric vs Wayne.. any advantages to either design? Other than Wayne's job being custom?

They are both in the same air path between the turbo and IC. No difference in function

[David]

Wayne ping me, have an idea for a part(if you aren't already doing it) :D

David

[DaveBoyd]

Hi DaveBoyd,

What is the difference between the EFI and non-EFI models you make for the 33 Hot Rod (new fuel pump vs donor?)?

Great looking tanks! Leg room is critical to the 818.

Thanks for working with Wayne on this!



The difference between the EFI and NON EFI for the 33 HR is one has an Aeromotive Stealth 340 pump in it for EFI and the NON EFI has only a pickup tube. We don't have a provision to use the Stock Assembly from the Mustang.

One thing that will be changing in the near future is all tanks will have a provision for EFI so that If you decide to run NON-EFI first then later on decide to run EFI you can simply upgrade and install our EFI System into the same tank without Needing to sell the old and purchase a new tank.

As for the 818 there will not be a NON EFI Option for obvious reasons.

[Wayne Presley]

Well i'm back at it after spending nearly every waking moment on the GRM car and took it for a spin today. It was soooo fricken cool to actually drive it!

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[RM1SepEx]

Congrats Wayne...

[rjh2pd]

Looks awesome. How long til you get yours done?

[Erik W. Treves]

Sweet.... looks awesome!!!! I need to get mine down on the ground again

[wallace18]

Looks good! Need to hear it run.

[longislandwrx]

GREAT!!!

Any reason why an elbow couldn't be used on the radiator to route the hose more flush. A quick weld and less chance of getting burned reaching in.

Looks awesome. cant wait to see some go cart action.

[VD2021]

A silicone elbow cleans that up nicely. This is done on the GTM's upper radiator port.

[Wayne Presley]

I see that I'm going to have to put a disclaimer on every post that not every thing is finalized,

I already have the aluminum piping with a bleed port going in it for the upper and lower hoses. It was, "do I spend 2 hours cutting mandrel bends, TIG welding it together", or "do I spend 5 min and actually drive it around under its own power".... I chose B :D

[Mechie3]

I think plan B will be the way I go as well for some things. Get it assembled. For things that don't come apart easily, do it right the first time. For other things, put it together, then work on it slowly, make it a long term or winter project.

[ehansen007]

Well i'm back at it after spending nearly every waking moment on the GRM car and took it for a spin today. It was soooo fricken cool to actually drive it!

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc175/vcpinjectionpb/P1020213_zps727af39c.jpg (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/vcpinjectionpb/media/P1020213_zps727af39c.jpg.html)

Wait, that's the GMR car and you're already that far? Wow. Well done guys. Can't wait to see the build video.

[Wayne Presley]

Wait, that's the GMR car and you're already that far? Wow. Well done guys. Can't wait to see the build video.


Uh E, you been smelling too much lithium polymer juice? That's my car, GRM is posting all the progress pics of their car on the GRM build thread and their website.

[BC Huselton]

I see that I'm going to have to put a disclaimer on every post that not every thing is finalized, takes the fun out of posting though... :-( I have video, just don't know if I want to post it.

I already have the aluminum piping with a bleed port going in it for the upper and lower hoses. It was, "do I spend 2 hours cutting mandrel bends, TIG welding it together", or "do I spend 5 min and actually drive it around under its own power".... I chose B :D

Wayne, thanks for the tip on not using a Tow Dolly...will blow out the center section, if I have said it correctly. It will blow up and produce some Very Uncool Parts. Valuable information that has not been addressed that I can find. Thanks, BC

[Wayne Presley]

Had a good day, fitted the body, paint guy came by, made seat mounting brackets and got the seats in, car is aligned, Russel Westbrook windshield installed, ride height set.
Time for a cold one :cool:

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[Erik W. Treves]

looks great!

[shim2]

yes it does!

[Mechie3]

Awesome.

[metalmaker12]

mf*&(^&$*%$^#%#‡rbvwgebfi wow!!!!! sweet man, ok I might get those wheels now wayne. I have a huge car wood