Wayne Presley/VeryCoolParts Build Thread H6 power

[longislandwrx]

Looks like there will be quite a few cars at open house next year! Heck Wayne can build half a dozen at this pace.

Love the concavity of the rear wheel.

Are you going to paint it right away or get it on the street/track and make sure there are no issues?

[ehansen007]

Uh E, you been smelling too much lithium polymer juice? That's my car, GRM is posting all the progress pics of their car on the GRM build thread and their website.

No you said you had been working on the GRM car and took it for a spin. That's why I asked. I thought I knew what you meant but couldn't understand your "Alabama gramma." ;)

[NicksPapaw]

Looking great Wayne!

[Flamshackle]

Wow looks awesome.

[Wayne Presley]

mf*&(^&$*%$^#%#‡rbvwgebfi wow!!!!! sweet man, ok I might get those wheels now wayne. I have a huge car wood


Looks like there will be quite a few cars at open house next year! Heck Wayne can build half a dozen at this pace.

Love the concavity of the rear wheel.

Are you going to paint it right away or get it on the street/track and make sure there are no issues?

It's getting paint, any issues would be chassis related and have no impact on the body being painted or not.


No you said you had been working on the GRM car and took it for a spin. That's why I asked. I thought I knew what you meant but couldn't understand your "Alabama gramma." ;)
All good, must be the granola of California clouding your perception....Ya know the flakes, nuts and fruits :D


Wow looks awesome.

Looking great Wayne!
Thanks for the compliments guys

[WIS89]

Wayne-

You are cruising along, and the car looks fantastic!! All that, and you've been sharing your experience with the forum as well as the guys from GRM. You are the very definition of selflessness! I have been enjoying reading your posts, and wish you luck as you continue!!

Regards,

Steve

[snowphun]

The rear of the door sill looks quite high when paired with the Lotus seat. What are your thoughts for getting in and out of the seat? Easier than an Elise?

[Wayne Presley]

The rear of the door sill looks quite high when paired with the Lotus seat. What are your thoughts for getting in and out of the seat? Easier than an Elise?

I'd say about the same as the Elise with the top off.

[Mike N]

Those wheels are a PERFECT fit. Looks fantastic.

[Frank818]

Nice work there! Keep up the pace!

[Wayne Presley]

Having fun in the 818


http://youtu.be/37roW4n-6dk

[Mechie3]

Hehehe. I can't wait until I'm at that point.

[07FIREBLADE]

Love the new lawnmower. Keep it up.

[Frank818]

I guess that was the EJ207 sound and not the EZ30. :) lolll

But probably the first non-FFR-built 818 kit running! :) In the "grass roots", but still.

[Erik W. Treves]

lol!!! nice!

[jayguy]

So is that an official gokart video?

Wish I had that much land to play around on.

[bstuke]

I thought you were tuning a CP car?

[Wayne Presley]

I thought you were tuning a CP car?

Bob, did that yesterday
http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showthread.php?11238-Now-this-would-be-a-fun-motor&p=113513#post113513

[David Hodgkins]

Too much fun! Congrats on the new milestone Wayne.

:)

[NicksPapaw]

You are going to have to change the name to VCP Donut Shoppe. :) Looks like fun times. Loved the video.

[ehansen007]

"And 'cause I was a gozillionaire and I liked doing it so much, I cut that grass for free." :)

-Forrest Gump

Well done Wayne. Congrats!

[metalmaker12]

What was your zero to 60 lol, you redneck, love it, hopefully they will send me the needed parts to get me there

[Wayne Presley]

What was your zero to 60 lol, you redneck, love it, hopefully they will send me the needed parts to get me there


It was really fun! No redneck required

[D K]

Is it necessary to run a staggered setup, or can you run 18"s up front?

Is there a bladder in either of the tanks?

The diagonal on the main hoop has quite a few 'kinks' in it. Does the R have a straight diagonal?

Looking awesome!

D

[Wayne Presley]

The main hoop has no kinks, the diagonals have no kinks, where is it you are talking about? The R has a different hoop than the S.

[Mechie3]

I think he means how the side bars meet and form a vee instead of going directly from the rear hoop to the front dash.

[D K]

No

I meant on Wayne's build how the main hoop's diagonal meets the horizontal square tubing.

I will post a pic to better explain.


Some racing bodies stipulate the diagonal has to be straight and on yours they were not. But, yours is an S and not an R. Maybe they are different.

D

[Wayne Presley]

The R's are different, they are wider and possibly taller on the main hoop.

[longislandwrx]

Wayne, that's awesome. Definitely a motivator.



I foresee similar traction on pavement. ;)

[Frank818]

I foresee similar traction on pavement. ;)

Not with Race Logic Traction Control! :D

[Wayne Presley]

Ok, finally got to work on my car today. Not much different from the last visit but the cooling system is completely devoid of air. I did a mod to the cooling system to automatically bleed all the air out on the first fill and FFR is working on a permanent bolt on solution to the issue. My way you have to drill and tap one hole. So with the cooling working great I strapped it on the dyno to break it in. Did all of the idle and light load running and short bursts to seat the rings. Shut it off and recheck the fluids, safety check everything and then let her rip. First short low boost pulls to 4500 rpm checking the AFR, boost level and timing. Then 5500, then 6500 rpm. Everything is great at 6 psi, so up to 8, then 10 and finally 12 psi. It made 264 RWHP and 261 RWTQ at 12 psi with 9.5 CR JE pistons, ported heads, stock cams, GT2860 turbo and full 3" exhaust. Very happy with how it runs, full boost at 3400 RPM, smooth idle.

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc175/vcpinjectionpb/my818-12psi2500-6400_zpsf2a25fda.png (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/vcpinjectionpb/media/my818-12psi2500-6400_zpsf2a25fda.png.html)

[07FIREBLADE]

Come on. Lets see what it can do with some more boost... damn thats some pretty good progress though. Do you happen to have a video of the pull?

[Wayne Presley]

Come on. Lets see what it can do with some more boost... damn thats some pretty good progress though. Do you happen to have a video of the pull?


Maybe


http://youtu.be/4KBveUSVIkY

[Frank818]

I thought you could rev up a 2.0 to 8700 or something. Maybe you're not there yet.

[Wayne Presley]

You can but you need cams and valve springs to make HP there...


http://youtu.be/fVkB4zbBiss

[Frank818]

You can but you need cams and valve springs to make HP there...


http://youtu.be/fVkB4zbBiss

So it means you lose bottom end if you rev it up past 8000?

BTW, that sound it pretty awesome! I don't think I'd need a 3.0. :)

[Wayne Presley]

So it means you lose bottom end if you rev it up past 8000?

BTW, that sound it pretty awesome! I don't think I'd need a 3.0. :)

To get to 8700 you'll need cams, rods, pistons, valve springs, titanium retainers to get there.

[Frank818]

Yeah I figure with more aggressive cams it means a less torquey bottom end. I doubt you could have the best of both worlds.
And then a turbo that flows at 8000, which means it probably needs to kick in at higher rpm than another turbo that can die at 6500 if your redline is 6500 anyway. :)

[Erik W. Treves]

Guys.... At 265 to the ground and around 1900 lbs.. Really... More? ? The thing is gonna scoot... To make more I think will be back to so much it will be not too much fun... It should be dead reliable at that power level.. Sounds pisser!

[Bob_n_Cincy]

Way to go Wayne. We need a "LIKE" button on this forum
:D:cool::D:cool::D:cool::D:

[metalmaker12]

To get to 8700 you'll need cams, rods, pistons, valve springs, titanium retainers to get there.

Awesome Dude!!!!!loving it

I will get to 8600 Wayne, my ej207 ( jdm 2.0 sti) is stock and revs to roughly 8100 on a stock tune, I will get to around 8600, but the turbo stops around 8200. This is all stock jdm sti heads cams valves etc. It also makes great torque.

[Wayne Presley]

I will get to 8600 Wayne, my ej207 ( jdm 2.0 sti) is stock and revs to roughly 8100 on a stock tune, I will get to around 8600, but the turbo stops around 8200. This is all stock jdm sti heads cams valves etc. It also makes great torque too.

I am going to get 275-300whp and torque on a consecutive tune, that's more than enough and 230 whp should be a blast

I could have gone higher on the boost but a fresh motor and 6200 is where it made peak power. I like the 9.5 CR pistons make much better torque off boost and it made 40 more HP and 20 lb/ft more torque with 3 lbs less boost than the last 2.0 Subaru I tuned.

[metalmaker12]

That's a great number for a break in check, looking good man, pm me with what you did to the coolant system to purge it etc

[wleehendrick]

Yeah I figure with more aggressive cams it means a less torquey bottom end. I doubt you could have the best of both worlds.
Unless U have VTEC, yo! ;)

Seriously, awesome progress Wayne! Do you plan to post a list of your 818 parts here on on your website? I'm eyeing that shifter, and will want a set of rims.

[Wayne Presley]

I'm re doing the web site right now and all the parts will be there

BTW if I go to 15 psi of boost it will make 293 RWHP

[Xusia]

Guys.... At 265 to the ground and around 1900 lbs.. Really... More? ? The thing is gonna scoot... To make more I think will be back to so much it will be not too much fun... It should be dead reliable at that power level.. Sounds pisser!

Agreed!


I could have gone higher on the boost but a fresh motor and 6200 is where it made peak power. I like the 9.5 CR pistons make much better torque off boost and it made 40 more HP and 20 lb/ft more torque with 3 lbs less boost than the last 2.0 Subaru I tuned.

Just so I know, what is the stock CR?

[Wayne Presley]

Just so I know, what is the stock CR?

The 2.0's are 8:1 and the 2.5L are 8.3:1 CR

[wleehendrick]

I'm re doing the web site right now and all the parts will be there
Great... there goes my budget!

[longislandwrx]

Nice power for 12psi. At that level and some careful tuning you could probably get away with 89 octane. heck maybe regular.

[Frank818]

I'm re doing the web site right now and all the parts will be there

BTW if I go to 15 psi of boost it will make 293 RWHP

And what's the max you think it can take (after break-in)?

[Frank818]

The 2.0's are 8:1 and the 2.5L are 8.3:1 CR

So you've actually increased CR compared to stock?

[metalmaker12]

Unless U have VTEC, yo! ;)

Seriously, awesome progress Wayne! Do you plan to post a list of your 818 parts here on on your website? I'm eyeing that shifter, and will want a set of rims.

AVC's is basically VTEC, and 06 wrx up and all sti's have it. So they can have both pretty solidly except for really low end. But the new Subie engines will be direct injection and they will be pulling harder sooner.

[Wayne Presley]

Nice power for 12psi. At that level and some careful tuning you could probably get away with 89 octane. heck maybe regular.

My dynamic cylinder pressures are as high as a 8:1 CR motor making the same HP so still needs premium.


And what's the max you think it can take (after break-in)?

That size turbo will max out around 300-310 RWHP, the parts in the motor are good for 350.


So you've actually increased CR compared to stock?

Stock is 8.0, mine is 9.5 so yes I've increased the CR. Horsepower is a directly related to cylinder pressure given the same motor. Lets say a 250 flywheel HP motor 2.0L, you can get there naturally aspirated, or turbocharged. Either way you get there, the peak cylinder pressure is going to be the same at the same HP level. In the NA motor you get there by going with cams, head work and a high compression ratio to get enough air in to reach that peak cylinder pressure. Turbos force more air into the chamber so it takes less compressing to reach the same peak pressure, hence the lower CR pistons. The peak cylinder pressure is a combination of CR and boost level so you can go higher boost/lower CR or lower boost /higher CR. Now the caveat, the higher the boost to CR ratio, the more dramatic the difference between on boost and off boost power output. With less CR it will be making less HP to begin with then when it swings into full boost you get a huge HP difference. Couple that with a turbo that has to flow a lot to make the HP and you get a motor that has a Jekyll and Hyde personality. Now up the higher CR motor it takes less boost to the the same cylinder pressure because the piston are providing a larger component of the peak cylinder pressures. Since the cylinder will have more HP off boost, the power difference to the 250 level will be lower and smoother. On a 8:1 CR motor it takes about 15 psi to make 225 RWHP, on the 9.5 CR motor it took 10.5 psi. I had the intercooler coupling pop off on the 8.0 motor on one run and it made a whopping 112 RWHP. Multiply that by the pressure ratio at 15 psi and you get the numbers it actually made ((15+14.7)/14.7)*112 = 226.28. Simple Physics :D

[Erik W. Treves]

I think you turbo charger is too small for that engine...lol....

Seems like the math works on a turbo charged Ford as it does on a Subaru...imagine that!

I can't wait to come down there a "play" with mine...a few more weeks!

[longislandwrx]

My dynamic cylinder pressures are as high as a 8:1 CR motor making the same HP so still needs premium.


Didn't notice the 9.5s No wonder that thing boosts so fast and sounds like a beast. Very cool build. Did you just gasket match the heads or something more?

[Wayne Presley]

Didn't notice the 9.5s No wonder that thing boosts so fast and sounds like a beast. Very cool build. Did you just gasket match the heads or something more?


Gasket matched, ported the heads, 5 angle valve job, didn't trim the guides and removed the TGV's.

[icky]

AVC's is basically VTEC, and 06 wrx up and all sti's have it. So they can have both pretty solidly except for really low end. But the new Subie engines will be direct injection and they will be pulling harder sooner.

Vtec swiches to entirely different came lobes, bigger, instead of just changing the cam timming. Avcs is not all that great untill you can tune both intake and exhaust cams like the newer sti's. Even then they arnt the same, as honda k20's do both timming and bigger lobes.

[wleehendrick]

Vtec swiches to entirely different came lobes, bigger, instead of just changing the cam timming. Avcs is not all that great untill you can tune both intake and exhaust cams like the newer sti's. Even then they arnt the same, as honda k20's do both timming and bigger lobes.

Beat me to it... VTEC and AVCS are both VVT (variable valve timing) schemes, but quite different in function and implementation. My original comment was (hopefully clearly) a joke on Honda:

21000

Sorry for the diversion!

[HelluvaEngineer]

I think you turbo charger is too small for that engine...lol....

Seems like the math works on a turbo charged Ford as it does on a Subaru...imagine that!

I can't wait to come down there a "play" with mine...a few more weeks!



I think Wayne has done a great job of selecting components that work well together, creating a very drivable car. Great low end torque. Smaller turbo and higher compression greatly increases low speed drive-ability.

[Wayne Presley]

I think Wayne has done a great job of selecting components that work well together, creating a very drivable car. Great low end torque. Smaller turbo and higher compression greatly increases low speed drive-ability.

HE, that was an inside joke between Erik and me. On his turbo FFR cobra the internet people all said his turbo was too small, only made 575 RWHP and 689 RWTQ at 10 psi...Yeah, way too small and not enough HP for a 2400 lb car :D

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e344/TREVESK/GL9psi.jpg

[Frank818]

2400/689 = 3.48lbs/HP
Apply that to the 1900lbs 818 and that's 545wtq. I don't want that, the low and mid will suck! lolll

[HelluvaEngineer]

HE, that was an inside joke between Erik and me. On his turbo FFR cobra the internet people all said his turbo was too small, only made 575 RWHP and 689 RWTQ at 10 psi...Yeah, way too small and not enough HP for a 2400 lb car :D

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e344/TREVESK/GL9psi.jpg

That's Funny!

[shinn497]

Is there a way of actually measuring the cylinder pressure?

[Wayne Presley]

Yes, it takes some very specialized equipment, most of the time it is calculated by physics equations.

[CHOTIS BILL]

If you are interested in the formulas Google BMEP.

Bill Lomenick

[Wayne Presley]

Well I did a little work on the car today, pulled the 2.0L and stuck in the EZ30 six cylinder. Started at 10 and had the six in by lunch. Started on the wiring and cooling system.

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc175/vcpinjectionpb/P1020311_zpsf4c4bfb8.jpg (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/vcpinjectionpb/media/P1020311_zpsf4c4bfb8.jpg.html)

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc175/vcpinjectionpb/P1020309_zpse8526785.jpg (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/vcpinjectionpb/media/P1020309_zpse8526785.jpg.html)

[skullandbones]

OMG. Are you going to dyno this thing? Why not?!? I am guessing the 2.0 goes back in again. I don't care, it's fun watching all the action. WEK.

[Wayne Presley]

The six is staying in the car, sounds too beautiful to not have

[Silvertop]

The six is staying in the car, sounds too beautiful to not have

I have cylinder envy!! :p

[skullandbones]

So is this phase one? I can't see you running without a turbo for long. So that would mean some build up for more revs and hp. Just a little turbo wouldn't hurt! WEK.

[Wayne Presley]

It's getting a turbo from the beginning. If I have to build the exhaust, I'm only going to build it once and not NA then turbo...

[flynntuna]

Wayne, you mentioned before the mods to make the H6 fit were minor, did you happen to take any pictures of those mods?

[metalmaker12]

This h6 will put down some ponies

[skullandbones]

Are you following the same strategy with the H6 to limit the cylinder pressure to around 9.5 to 10 to 1 to maintain the drivability as well as the desired power/torque? You must have checked to see how much the EZ30 can take without modifying the internals. That should also limit the revs but still get the needed hp within those limits. This is really cool stuff! WEK.

[Wayne Presley]

Wayne, you mentioned before the mods to make the H6 fit were minor, did you happen to take any pictures of those mods?


Yes , dual into single water outlet.

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc175/vcpinjectionpb/P1020312_zps3ae2af18.jpg (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/vcpinjectionpb/media/P1020312_zps3ae2af18.jpg.html)

[Wayne Presley]

Body panels all blocked and ready for primer

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc175/vcpinjectionpb/20130828_090229_zps88224997.jpg (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/vcpinjectionpb/media/20130828_090229_zps88224997.jpg.html)

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc175/vcpinjectionpb/20130828_090157_zps20eeb453.jpg (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/vcpinjectionpb/media/20130828_090157_zps20eeb453.jpg.html)

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc175/vcpinjectionpb/20130828_090149_zpsdc7c5648.jpg (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/vcpinjectionpb/media/20130828_090149_zpsdc7c5648.jpg.html)

[ehansen007]

Good stuff Wayne. Have you gone through the gel coat while blocking yet? It all looks very uniform. I was wondering if you could just shoot these for a quick, low cost color change or if they must be primered first. I'll be interested to see if you get any pinholes or if the gel holds up under blocking.

[Frank818]

So it's gonna be a Turbo H6...

[Wayne Presley]

Good stuff Wayne. Have you gone through the gel coat while blocking yet? It all looks very uniform. I was wondering if you could just shoot these for a quick, low cost color change or if they must be primered first. I'll be interested to see if you get any pinholes or if the gel holds up under blocking.

Erik, Erik, Erik,
A: Wayne doesn't sand, I know what I'm good at and body work isn't on the list... :D
B: This car is going to be in FFR's booth at SEMA, it has to be over the top perfect.
C: Only show quality paint jobs roll out of my shop so a quick low cost color change never crossed my mind.

I've been friends Erik for quite a while so know that I'm just poking fun at him and he'll poke back at me at some point. Erik, first beer is on me at SEMA.

[metalmaker12]

Body panels all blocked and ready for primer

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc175/vcpinjectionpb/20130828_090229_zps88224997.jpg (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/vcpinjectionpb/media/20130828_090229_zps88224997.jpg.html)

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc175/vcpinjectionpb/20130828_090157_zps20eeb453.jpg (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/vcpinjectionpb/media/20130828_090157_zps20eeb453.jpg.html)

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc175/vcpinjectionpb/20130828_090149_zpsdc7c5648.jpg (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/vcpinjectionpb/media/20130828_090149_zpsdc7c5648.jpg.html)

Spray filler or yellow primer I see, or at least it looks that way.I plan on on blocking planels spray filling if needed block and than use a high build primer and block so it comes out really smooth. I can say I can sand and paint well, it is my thing more than the rest of the build lol. Although my build is going good, and I am having a lot of fun

[ehansen007]

Wayne,

So who's painting it? Maybe they'll know what I'm talking about. :) And I'll take that beer now dammit. I'll even dress up like a girl, albeit an ugly girl :D

[bstuke]

Last edited by ehansen007; Today at 08:40 PM.

Wait, what? Oh, he is an admin, and can make it say what he wants!

[Wayne Presley]

Wait, what? Oh, he is an admin, and can make it say what he wants!

Haha, two can play at that game :D

[ehansen007]

Hey, I just corrected the spelling of my name in your post! I didn't go in a post my secret fantasies like you did. No wonder you have to wear that ankle bracelet. Next time just use "e" as you know it so you won't have to do any spelling. ;) Tee hee!

[Frank818]

Wayne, what's your current plan in terms of mods to the engine and accessories (hoses, exhaust and whatnot around) to fit and use that GTX?

Head gaskets, valves, retainers, guides, higher flow head and/or IM, etc.
You said no internals at the moment if I recall.
You already modified the coolant lines.
Maybe you already did other adjustments?

[Silvertop]

Erik, Erik, Erik,
A: Wayne doesn't sand, I know what I'm good at and body work isn't on the list... :D
B: This car is going to be in FFR's booth at SEMA, it has to be over the top perfect.
C: Only show quality paint jobs roll out of my shop so a quick low cost color change never crossed my mind.

I've been friends Erik for quite a while so know that I'm just poking fun at him and he'll poke back at me at some point. Erik, first beer is on me at SEMA.

UM ...... Which engine will it have in it at SEMA???? :rolleyes:

[Wayne Presley]

It will have the turbo 6 in it... :cool:

[Silvertop]

It will have the turbo 6 in it... :cool:

Now, THAT ......... is really interesting!!:)

[randy808]

Wayne, when's the new site gonna be up with all of your VCP's??

[AZPete]

Wayne, when's the new site gonna be up with all of your VCP's??

And, please give us a good detailed pitch on your ECU & harness with what it will and won't do. I really don't want to tackle the OE harnesses. I said "please" like Mom taught me.
Pete

[jkrueger]

And, please give us a good detailed pitch on your ECU & harness with what it will and won't do. I really don't want to tackle the OE harnesses. I said "please" like Mom taught me.
Pete

I am curious about this as well after seeing the picture on that other build thread of the stock harness. It would be nice if the harness could deal with A/C or be an easy add on since I live in TX and am going to need it.

JC

[metros]

^^^The car doesn't have a top. What's A/C going to do for you?

[wleehendrick]

^^^The car doesn't have a top. What's A/C going to do for you?

Dave's quote from the August 818 email update:"Our street car is now in Michigan at Rod Tops for soft top fitment (pricing and details to follow shortly)"

[GUNS]

^^^The car doesn't have a top. What's A/C going to do for you?

Ever sat at a light in a car when it was 100 with no top or A/C? Ever sat at a light in a car when it was 100 with no top with A/C? There is a difference.

[Wayne Presley]

Rebuilding a web site sucks, the program I used to make it originally is no longer functional. But I'm almost done!

Here's a sale page http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showthread.php?11462-VCP-end-of-Summer-Sale&p=115952#post115952

[jkrueger]

^^^The car doesn't have a top. What's A/C going to do for you?

I'm waiting till a coupe comes out so it will have a top.

JC

[randy808]

Rebuilding a web site sucks, the program I used to make it originally is no longer functional. But I'm almost done!

Here's a sale page http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showthread.php?11462-VCP-end-of-Summer-Sale&p=115952#post115952

Sounds great....... But what about the trailing arms, wiring and water to air package? Just curious ;)

[Wayne Presley]

Sounds great....... But what about the trailing arms, wiring and water to air package? Just curious ;)

Working on that, BTW the 818 in your avatar looks really great!

[randy808]

Working on that, BTW the 818 in your avatar looks really great!

Thanks Wayne, doing the design was the easy part. Now I have to find the $$$ to build it!!! Hahaha!!

[THE ITALIAN]

Maybe use something out of an EV car or this ??....http://www.grassrootsev.com/airconditioner.htm
I wouldn't want an AC pump on the motor with piping
Put it in the front next to the batt & add a little weight on the front axel
or move to Calif where the taxes & politicians are way to high.
One thing you got going is the motor is in the back, not like the roadster, 33, coupe- no forced heat into the cockpit

[Frank818]

Working on that, BTW the 818 in your avatar looks really great!

Yeah I want a rear wing like the one on his picture.
Plz build the parts, Randy. lolll

[Wayne Presley]

Yeah I want a rear wing like the one on his picture.
Plz build the parts, Randy. lolll

If you are looking at the APR GTC 200 they start at $750, the GTC 300 like on FFR's blue 818 R they are $1430

[Frank818]

Right, so these are height adjustable, seems to. I didn't know that. I like the wing cuz it fits lower on the car, but I don't want a small lip on the rear trunk either. A low big wing is nice. Only thing is not sure how aerodynamically efficient they (low big wings) would be since AFAIK only the big FFR R wing and the new FFR S wing (I haven't see yet) have been flow tested.

[Mechie3]

A knockoff carbon fiber Subaru s202 wing is easily and inexpensively obtained. Not as good at making down force as the aggressive Apr wings but is functional.

[Frank818]

Yeah but to put some down force the entire car needs to flow air onto the wing.
If FFR tested their S wing and will offer it, what tells us a, say, APR GTC 200 wing would be better or worse in terms of down force, drag, top speed, etc.?

Actually, that may not be the thread to discuss about this. :) But anyway I am throwing out the question.

[metros]

Ever sat at a light in a car when it was 100 with no top or A/C? Ever sat at a light in a car when it was 100 with no top with A/C? There is a difference.

Yes to both. I guess I've just conceded that the car will be a spartan vehicle with little to no amenities. Guess that doesn't mean everyone's car has to be that way.

[GUNS]

Yes to both. I guess I've just conceded that the car will be a spartan vehicle with little to no amenities. Guess that doesn't mean everyone's car has to be that way.

Agreed, mine won't have A/C, at least initially and it will suck in the summer. My point was that even without a top, A/C helps. Back on topic, awesome job Wayne! Can't wait to see what else you do for this community!

[rori]

Any fitment issues with the 18x9.5 +40 on the rear? That is the same specs as the wheel I am looking at. Thanks

[WRX Dave]

Got to see this amazing work in progress.today. Can't wait to see how it turns out.

[Wayne Presley]

Any fitment issues with the 18x9.5 +40 on the rear? That is the same specs as the wheel I am looking at. Thanks

Yes, I had to modify trailing arms which I'm now selling, make new spacers for the upper trailing arm. My Kojins are 18x9.5 at +45


Got to see this amazing work in progress.today. Can't wait to see how it turns out.

Glad you could drop by and see both cars.

[Canadian818]

Maybe I've missed it, but did you mention your tire sizes yet Wayne? If your fitting a 9.5" rear tire, I'll be ordering those trailing arms for sure. Very excited to see your new setup on the dyno, and while your stand alone is more expensive than some others, I might be persuaded when the time comes just cause you support the community. Do you do remote tuning?

[Wayne Presley]

I'm running 17x8 fronts and 18x9.5 rear wheels with 235/40/17 and 265/35/18 tires

[JeromeS13]

I'm running 17x8 fronts and 18x9.5 rear wheels with 235/40/17 and 265/35/18 tires

With a +45 offset in the rear and what offset in the front? Any wheel spacers used?

Thanks!

[Wayne Presley]

+45 front and rear. I'm using a 5mm spacer in the rear.

[Frank818]

Is that +45 in the rear with or without the 5mm spacer?

[philly15]

I'm running 17x8 fronts and 18x9.5 rear wheels with 235/40/17 and 265/35/18 tires

what brand tires are you running?

[Wayne Presley]

what brand tires are you running?

I have a set of Federal and a set of Toyo's

[metros]

How's the body work coming?

[Wayne Presley]

Bodywork is all done, should be painted by the end of next week. It's going to look AWESOME!!!!!!

[K3LAG]

Bodywork is all done, should be painted by the end of next week. It's going to look AWESOME!!!!!!

I can't wait to see it. Based on your description on the phone when we talked Wednesday I think it's a paint scheme I will like.

Larry

[WIS89]

Wayne-

Can't wait to see pictures!! Then I would like to see some video of you going very, very fast!!

Have an awesome week wrapping things up!

Regards,

Steve

[Canadian818]

Is the engine done and tuned?

[Wayne Presley]

Is the engine done and tuned?

I wish, had the GRM guys here thur/fri and prepped on wed. I just got the TEC GT in Thursday so I can wire up the H6.

[Frank818]

Almost there!

[Wayne Presley]

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc175/vcpinjectionpb/818-build%201/20130925_210909_zpsfcecec07.jpg (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/vcpinjectionpb/media/818-build%201/20130925_210909_zpsfcecec07.jpg.html)

I went by the painter tonight and he was spraying a test panel and it looks amazing!

[Aloha818]

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc175/vcpinjectionpb/818-build%201/20130925_210909_zpsfcecec07.jpg (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/vcpinjectionpb/media/818-build%201/20130925_210909_zpsfcecec07.jpg.html)

I went by the painter tonight and he was spraying a test panel and it looks amazing!

WOW! Great color.

[wallace18]

Being a gator fan I really like that color. It should look amazing in the Sun.

[Wayne Presley]

Being a gator fan I really like that color. It should look amazing in the Sun.

What do you mean Gator? It's Auburn orange :D

[metalmaker12]

Nice

[RM1SepEx]

I'm a big fan of orange... one of my options...

[Wayne Presley]

The sun came out today....WOW!

[Mechie3]

You know what they say. Pics or it didn't happen :D

[THE ITALIAN]

What do you mean Gator? It's Auburn orange :D
Laker gold, i'm sure of it.

[Wayne Presley]

Here's a few updates. My car is going to be in the FFR booth at SEMA, I got a set of XXR wheels and they are gorgeous and got in my turbo for the H6. It's a Precision PT5558 CEA series turbo with a 46mm Precision wastegate.

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc175/vcpinjectionpb/818-build%201/P1020345_zps7dada852.jpg (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/vcpinjectionpb/media/818-build%201/P1020345_zps7dada852.jpg.html)

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc175/vcpinjectionpb/818-build%201/P1020344_zpsa8c30dac.jpg (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/vcpinjectionpb/media/818-build%201/P1020344_zpsa8c30dac.jpg.html)

[icky]

Nice. I can't wait to see your manifold.

[WIS89]

Wayne-

You are my hero! Crazy build, and that color is just ridiculous! That engine with the turbo is going to be insane...

Very cool indeed! Thanks for keeping us updated. I have been drooling over your thread, and the hits keep on coming.

Regards,

Steve

[Quiny]

Maybe I missed it somewhere but how did the ABS work out? I'm considering it for my build? Love the color please post pictures as soon as possible.

[Stickshift84]

What size and offset did you order in the XXR wheels?

[Canadian818]

Your such a tease...can't wait to hear this thing!

[wleehendrick]

Well, with all the love for the sound of an H6, I though this appropriate to share here:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPaeC0llaaE

[flynntuna]

Very cool, I had a 911 in the early '70s . A real fun car even though my forester would spank it. LOL

[Frank818]

Nothing beats a Porsche. Well, 7 Porsches do! :D

[NicksPapaw]

Dang Wayne, you are talking some serious parts there. Can't wait to see the completed build.

[Wayne Presley]

Maybe I missed it somewhere but how did the ABS work out? I'm considering it for my build? Love the color please post pictures as soon as possible.
I have not finished the wiring on the ABS so i still do not know if it will work.


What size and offset did you order in the XXR wheels? 17x8.25 Fr and 18x8.75 Rr with +35

[Wayne Presley]

Sneak peek...

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc175/vcpinjectionpb/20131003_120021_zps0035ee79.jpg (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/vcpinjectionpb/media/20131003_120021_zps0035ee79.jpg.html)

[Mechie3]

http://cache.ohinternet.com/images/a/a1/Awww_yeah.jpg

[wleehendrick]

Sneak peek...

I approve! Especially since myZ is a close shade (Nissan's 'Le Mans Sunset'). Here's a shot that was snagged of me on Mulholland Dr:

22237

I can only imaging how good the 818 will look in that color in the sunlight!

[Wayne Presley]

I approve! Especially since myZ is a close shade (Nissan's 'Le Mans Sunset'). Here's a shot that was snagged of me on Mulholland Dr:

22237

I can only imaging how good the 818 will look in that color in the sunlight!

The Z is more copper than mine. It's a custom blend of burnt orange and yellow with topped with clear/gold pearl

[wleehendrick]

The Z is more copper than mine. It's a custom blend of burnt orange and yellow with topped with clear/gold pearl

Sounds sweet... I'm sure my LCD monitor isn't doing it justice.

[07FIREBLADE]

Neither is the retina display on my 5s....

[Flamshackle]

Sneak peek...

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc175/vcpinjectionpb/20131003_120021_zps0035ee79.jpg (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/vcpinjectionpb/media/20131003_120021_zps0035ee79.jpg.html)

this is to much!!! cant wait to see the final pics :D

[RM1SepEx]

Hot Damn

[WIS89]

Great color Wayne! Are you doing some accent colors, or staying solid? Or, would you rather not say...?

It's been great following your build, as well as the GRM build!

Regards,

Steve

[Wayne Presley]

It will have accent colors, just what they are will depend on the test panels...:cool:

[metalmaker12]

Freaking beautiful

[wallace18]

Sneak peek...

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc175/vcpinjectionpb/20131003_120021_zps0035ee79.jpg (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/vcpinjectionpb/media/20131003_120021_zps0035ee79.jpg.html)

Awesome Auburn Orange. Any chance of some Auburn blue vs the other colors?

[WIS89]

It will have accent colors, just what they are will depend on the test panels...:cool:

Very sneaky Sir. I expected nothing less! ;-o)

Can't wait to see her all done, and some smokin' tires!

Regards,

Steve

[NicksPapaw]

Wayne, you knocked it out of the park on that color. Can't wait to see the finished product!!!

[longislandwrx]

That's going to look awesome with the black tubing, black wheels, and black rubber all stuck to the quarters.

[gwader]

Daymn! What a deep, rich color tone. So are you guys going to make us wait until SEMA for the full view.

[Wayne Presley]

Daymn! What a deep, rich color tone. So are you guys going to make us wait until SEMA for the full view.

I'll show pics when it's assembled....Maybe :cool:

[David Hodgkins]

I'll show pics when it's assembled....Maybe :cool:

Wayne Presley, KING of the infliction of PAIN and SUFFERING. I can't believe you'd hold back posting pics.

How low, no good, mean and conniving can a guy get?!?

;)

[Wayne Presley]

Well I just finished the turbo but with Wookie attitude like that I'm going to post them so only you can't see them, everyone else should be able to see...:cool:

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc175/vcpinjectionpb/818-build%201/P1020348_zps827fc2ca.jpg (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/vcpinjectionpb/media/818-build%201/P1020348_zps827fc2ca.jpg.html)

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc175/vcpinjectionpb/818-build%201/P1020349_zpsabb85574.jpg (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/vcpinjectionpb/media/818-build%201/P1020349_zpsabb85574.jpg.html)

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc175/vcpinjectionpb/818-build%201/P1020350_zps80190f14.jpg (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/vcpinjectionpb/media/818-build%201/P1020350_zps80190f14.jpg.html)

[David Hodgkins]

What the...


Dagnabbit!
http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=22273&d=1380919410

[Bob_n_Cincy]

Hi Wayne,
You must be getting you body painted off the frame. Is that normal? Is it better to do it that way?
Bob

[Frank818]

Ha! The WG to the atmosphere. :)

[Wayne Presley]

Hi Wayne,
You must be getting you body painted off the frame. Is that normal? Is it better to do it that way?
Bob


I always have the body painted off the car, you really only need the body on the car if your graphics go panel to panel.

[WRX Dave]

I need to come by the shop and see this thing again.

[metalmaker12]

Nice work, nice external waste gate dump, looks sinister, just how I like it.

[Canadian818]

Amazing work! Dyno it yet?

[Wayne Presley]

I need to come by the shop and see this thing again.
Come on by, I sent you a text yesterday about your donor.


Nice work, nice external waste gate dump, looks sinister, just how I like it.

Thanks


Amazing work! Dyno it yet?

Not yet, still have to do the oil feed and return lines, wire in the Electromotive TEC-GT and fill it with coolant. I'll post video when it happens, but the Wookie can't watch :D

[Wayne Presley]

Oil return and feed lines done, getting closer to the dyno. But for now, off to the game!

[Wayne Presley]

New TEC-GT is installed and wired. Soooooooo close to firing it up.....

[killerrudy]

Well I did a little work on the car today, pulled the 2.0L and stuck in the EZ30 six cylinder. Started at 10 and had the six in by lunch. Started on the wiring and cooling system.

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc175/vcpinjectionpb/P1020311_zpsf4c4bfb8.jpg (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/vcpinjectionpb/media/P1020311_zpsf4c4bfb8.jpg.html)

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc175/vcpinjectionpb/P1020309_zpse8526785.jpg (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/vcpinjectionpb/media/P1020309_zpse8526785.jpg.html)

Don't see if this was answered already. This still the subi tranny with adapter plate?

[Wayne Presley]

It's the Subaru engine and trans, both unmodified.

[Wayne Presley]

Time at the painter last night doing the graphics

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc175/vcpinjectionpb/20131008_211806_zps40cd53e8.jpg (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/vcpinjectionpb/media/20131008_211806_zps40cd53e8.jpg.html)

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc175/vcpinjectionpb/20131008_233638_zpsd93c2575.jpg (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/vcpinjectionpb/media/20131008_233638_zpsd93c2575.jpg.html)

Out side this morning, too bad it's overcast..

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc175/vcpinjectionpb/P1020352_zpsd016d989.jpg (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/vcpinjectionpb/media/P1020352_zpsd016d989.jpg.html)

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc175/vcpinjectionpb/20131009_114142_zps9e166a9a.jpg (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/vcpinjectionpb/media/20131009_114142_zps9e166a9a.jpg.html)

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc175/vcpinjectionpb/20131009_113901_zpsaceb6d02.jpg (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/vcpinjectionpb/media/20131009_113901_zpsaceb6d02.jpg.html)

[JAubin]

Wayne "Oh you've got a good idea of what you want to do with your kit?...have you considered this?" Presley
Looks awesome! I liked the orange, and thought "Neat, not my style...but very cool" w/ the grey and blue it's perfect.
Can't wait to see/hear the final product.

[Mechie3]

You should stop now....




because I don't have painting the car in my budget. :D

[Silvertop]

That is going to be stunning. I can't wait to see it all together. Amazing!!!!!!!!

[K3LAG]

Wayne,
That looks awesome. Even better than I imagined from your description on the phone. Can't wait to see it all together.

Larry

[ehansen007]

Wow, that looks incredible. Good job Wayne!

[da King]

Was talking to Wayne this morning and he said that the website was a few days away from being updated, considering that his plate is pretty full right now it could be a bit longer, apparently there will be a section on just 818 parts that VCP's offers so I'm lookin forward to that.
What's the weight difference between the 2 engines, I don't know Subaru engine codes so I'm talkin about the 2.5 turbo compared to the turbo 6. What year was the donor car? Stock hp difference between the 2 engines? Do you expect to have to make changes to springs or set-up on the car (818S) to deal with the extra weight? What's everyone's opinion - is the 6 going to be the engine of choice, anyone else planning this?
I'm going to do mine with the 2.5 and as close to donor car as possible but that shifter is a must have & that IC looks sharp. I think I read that wind tunnel testing was done on the body is this the reason you went with an air to water IC as opposed to an air to air IC, is there a dead air flow space where the stock IC would mount is what I'm asking. Would a larger air to air IC have any effect in the stock location? Reason I ask is that it looks like the stock IC location might be out of the air flow for max cooling and if this entered in your choice to go to the air to water cooler? I have a turbo 911, the 930 and it's a popular upgrade to go to a very expensive larger IC but it's in the whale tail and gets lots of air, the poor man's upgrade is to stack 2 stock coolers and I wondered if this was an option with the 818 or would dead air flow negate the benefits of a bigger cooler?
I'm kinda glad (not really) I'm going to have to wait a bit, seems with everyone of these first build threads you see different idea's, products, and new after market stuff, plus the new top looks great, hope there's a hard top version when my kit gets built.
Wayne your car looks absolutely down town, can't wait to see it together.
Finn

[Xusia]

Wow. That's a lot of questions!

What's the weight difference between the 2 engines?
I can't recall exactly, but it isn't very much. Certainly not enough to worry about.

Do you expect to have to make changes to springs or set-up on the car (818S) to deal with the extra weight?
Since the weight is very close to the same, I doubt it, but Wayne can weigh in! ;)

What year was the donor car? Stock hp difference between the 2 engines?
This will get your Subaru engine education off to a good start: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Subaru_engines
One thing to keep in mind when comparing HP numbers is that the 6-cyl engines were N/A from the factory. Wayne is adding a turbo, so his will put out more HP than stock. The exact engine he has is an EZ30. What's important to note about the EZ engines in that they share the same exterior dimensions and engine mount points with the EJ series (which are used in the Impreza/WRX/STi). They also share the same transmission bolt pattern.

As far as the inter-cooler goes, I think there will be ways to make the stock unit effective where it sits. Air-to-water has some advantages, but comes with some drawbacks as well (weight, plumbing, space).

[Wayne Presley]

The weights are in this or the 6 cylinder thread and not less than 15lbs vs the turbo 2.0 so no spring changes. I was really surprised at the weight of the stock flywheel/disc/pressure plate at 35 lbs...

[wallace18]

Wayne ,the car paint is awesome!

[Wayne Presley]

Yeah, the sun came out. I love the way the paint looks at different angles and lighting.

Sun in front

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc175/vcpinjectionpb/P1020354_zps6bc2ddc4.jpg (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/vcpinjectionpb/media/P1020354_zps6bc2ddc4.jpg.html)


Sun behind

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc175/vcpinjectionpb/P1020353_zps5e9b4acd.jpg (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/vcpinjectionpb/media/P1020353_zps5e9b4acd.jpg.html)



Detail pic

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc175/vcpinjectionpb/P1020355_zps97074680.jpg (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/vcpinjectionpb/media/P1020355_zps97074680.jpg.html)

[metalmaker12]

Sickkkkkkkkkk, just raised my game!!!, tell that guy he is doing a great job!!!

[Xusia]

It's Wayne. Did you expect less?!? LOL :D

[Frank818]

Nice Transformer :)

[Wayne Presley]

The painter is fairly talented with an airbrush too. He painted this, it's waterjet cut as a night light and a few hours of airbrushing

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc175/vcpinjectionpb/20131008_234824_zpsaa978889.jpg (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/vcpinjectionpb/media/20131008_234824_zpsaa978889.jpg.html)

Details in the mountains

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc175/vcpinjectionpb/20131008_234836_zps8d44cf3b.jpg (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/vcpinjectionpb/media/20131008_234836_zps8d44cf3b.jpg.html)

[metalmaker12]

That's for his kid or another's and is great work, you picked the right guy.

[Wayne Presley]

That's for his kid or another's and is great work, you picked the right guy.

Not mine, my youngest is 21....

[D K]

It needs KTM stickers and call it 8-BOW...

[Wayne Presley]

Got my Toyo R888's mounted on the XXR wheels this morning. 17x8.25 and 18x8.75 weighing 18.8 lbs fr and 21.35 lbs rear wheel weights.

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc175/vcpinjectionpb/20131010_092623_zpsada39460.jpg (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/vcpinjectionpb/media/20131010_092623_zpsada39460.jpg.html)

[Turboguy]

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc175/vcpinjectionpb/20131009_113901_zpsaceb6d02.jpg (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/vcpinjectionpb/media/20131009_113901_zpsaceb6d02.jpg.html)

Hmmmmm......................

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ40SafYATTk5dUo47CVaxi5RF9NMwQk RAhEDUgD9xoEp63h_hjXg


:D

[Wayne Presley]

Hmmmmm......................

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ40SafYATTk5dUo47CVaxi5RF9NMwQk RAhEDUgD9xoEp63h_hjXg


:D

Was sooooooo not going movie theme when we layed out the graphics...But I do see what you mean with the grill openings as eyes...

[Frank818]

Hmmmmm......................

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ40SafYATTk5dUo47CVaxi5RF9NMwQk RAhEDUgD9xoEp63h_hjXg


:D

That's what I said, good picture to confirm. :)

[Goldwing]

It's more than meets the eye! Now that seems an appropriate expression for the 818.

[Turboguy]

Just ribbing you, Wayne.


Anxious to see how it looks finished. I've always been a fan of the "Orange Arrows" that Tom Walkinshaw used to run in F1:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3064/2518560141_e12f99f3ae.jpg

....and thought a 2-tone orange & black colour combo might be the way I go on my 818.

[Frank818]

....and thought a 2-tone orange & black colour combo might be the way I go on my 818.

That's my plan. Good choice. :)

[K3LAG]

That's my plan. Good choice. :)

I'm going orange on whilte. Going to stick with the unpainted white body with orange trim/graphics. Interior will be Black with orange stitching and trim. If FFR comes out with more colors before I get my kit in late spring, that could all change, but that's the current plan.

Larry

[Wayne Presley]

The Wilwoods are on!


http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc175/vcpinjectionpb/20131010_135355_zpsb3009834.jpg (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/vcpinjectionpb/media/20131010_135355_zpsb3009834.jpg.html)

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc175/vcpinjectionpb/20131010_135525_zpsf5f3edff.jpg (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/vcpinjectionpb/media/20131010_135525_zpsf5f3edff.jpg.html)

[icky]

Is that a radiator or intercooler with a fan in the last pic? Looks like a radiator since I thought you were going a/w intercooler.


Edit: wow, just realized that's the front.

[metalmaker12]

I am getting the same wheels sorry Wayne

[Wayne Presley]

I am getting the same wheels sorry Wayne


You should have got them from me...

[wleehendrick]

You should have got them from me...

Wayne... are you selling XXR's? I like the look of the 530s.

[Wayne Presley]

Wayne... are you selling XXR's? I like the look of the 530s.


I'll get prices tomorrow.

[Frank818]

The Wilwoods are on!

They look just great. :)

[Xusia]

I really like the 530s as well.

[Wayne Presley]

I was unable to get pricing today on the XXR wheels but will Monday.

Now the good news, the paint is almost done

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc175/vcpinjectionpb/20131011_182044_zpse1ee0560.jpg (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/vcpinjectionpb/media/20131011_182044_zpse1ee0560.jpg.html)

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc175/vcpinjectionpb/20131011_182156_zps267f0a3f.jpg (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/vcpinjectionpb/media/20131011_182156_zps267f0a3f.jpg.html)

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc175/vcpinjectionpb/20131011_182130_zpsfa34b307.jpg (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/vcpinjectionpb/media/20131011_182130_zpsfa34b307.jpg.html)

Detail pic with the airbush shading.

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc175/vcpinjectionpb/20131011_182000_zpsdbe60b9c.jpg (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/vcpinjectionpb/media/20131011_182000_zpsdbe60b9c.jpg.html)

[FFR-ADV]

Your painter is a true artist. Great job!

And the paint won't be drying in the truck while on the way to SEMA, LOL

I hope you post a few videos so those of us who don't make it to SEMA can see and hear it all put together. Probably no more doing donuts in the field until after the show.

Cheers!

[WIS89]

Wayne-

Your build is absolutely insane! I love your paint scheme, and as FFR-ADV said above, the painter is a real artist! Stunning job; did you pick the colors?

I have really enjoyed watching your build as well as the GRM build. You do awesome work!

Can't wait to see her all together. A sincere thank you for sharing.

Regards,

Steve

[Wayne Presley]

Wayne-

Your build is absolutely insane! I love your paint scheme, and as FFR-ADV said above, the painter is a real artist! Stunning job; did you pick the colors?

I have really enjoyed watching your build as well as the GRM build. You do awesome work!

Can't wait to see her all together. A sincere thank you for sharing.

Regards,

Steve

I picked the orange and graphite but wanted a sliver divider. The painter wanted the blue divider and sprayed out a test panel and I would have said that I was only 75% on board with the blue. He painted the hood and I was 100% sold. It really sets off the car.

These 3 pics have no flash and it shows how much the silver looks depending on how the light hits it.

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc175/vcpinjectionpb/P1020360_zps0f8cf1b2.jpg (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/vcpinjectionpb/media/P1020360_zps0f8cf1b2.jpg.html)

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc175/vcpinjectionpb/P1020359_zpsa0c77103.jpg (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/vcpinjectionpb/media/P1020359_zpsa0c77103.jpg.html)

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc175/vcpinjectionpb/P1020358_zps5098e63f.jpg (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/vcpinjectionpb/media/P1020358_zps5098e63f.jpg.html)


With flash

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc175/vcpinjectionpb/P1020357_zps1addff34.jpg (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/vcpinjectionpb/media/P1020357_zps1addff34.jpg.html)

[07FIREBLADE]

OMG!!!!! It's just stunning of this thing is coming out.

[blueoval_bowtie_guy]

This is going to be a stunning 818! Have to wait and see if Olli decides to challenge you...

[Wayne Presley]

A few in the sun

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc175/vcpinjectionpb/P1020362_zps8b7aac6a.jpg (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/vcpinjectionpb/media/P1020362_zps8b7aac6a.jpg.html)

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc175/vcpinjectionpb/P1020364_zps3aeae041.jpg (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/vcpinjectionpb/media/P1020364_zps3aeae041.jpg.html)

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc175/vcpinjectionpb/P1020363_zpsb8fdbeb7.jpg (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/vcpinjectionpb/media/P1020363_zpsb8fdbeb7.jpg.html)

[wallace18]

Looks awesome Wayne.

[Frank818]

The rear wheels look better with the concave look! You know I'll keep them on my list of potential rims. :)

They have an odd width though, I've never seen different than half an inch increment.

[Hayai]

Wow, that looks amazing Wane. Cant wait to see the whole car put together with that paint!

[flynntuna]

Very exciting to see the potential the 818 can reach. Gotta make sure I wipe the drool of the keyboard:)

[Wayne Presley]

Should have it together on tuesday for pics

[WIS89]

Wayne-

You are right about the silver; it really does change colors depending on light. Even within the shading there is a distinct difference in how it looks.

The blue accent lines are really perfect. They set the two colors apart nicely, but more importantly make each really pop. Great choices!

When she gets put together, it is going to really look awesome! I can't wait to see her finished. Really well done!

And she is going to FLY!

Regards,

Steve

[MK4]

Love the color wayne! Cant wait to see it together

[Erik W. Treves]

looks awesome! Now I really need to get to the paint booth!... guess I will go make my reservation this morning

[Silvertop]

Really looking forward to seeing that all together, Wayne. It's looking fantastic!

An unrelated question -- Did you do anything to increase the .030" engine-to-frame clearances at the front?

[Wayne Presley]

Really looking forward to seeing that all together, Wayne. It's looking fantastic!

An unrelated question -- Did you do anything to increase the .030" engine-to-frame clearances at the front?

It was .200 and I notched the motor mount holes .250" to slide the motor back.

I put in the AWIC heat exchanger this morning and mounted the body sides.

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc175/vcpinjectionpb/20131013_110921_zpsab3e3dd3.jpg (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/vcpinjectionpb/media/20131013_110921_zpsab3e3dd3.jpg.html)

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc175/vcpinjectionpb/20131013_110815_zps1740db36.jpg (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/vcpinjectionpb/media/20131013_110815_zps1740db36.jpg.html)

Looking better every day

[fitn in]

Wayne, the color looks awesome! Have you considered adding a splash of the orange on the rims to tie it all together? Not a lot, maybe just inside the spokes...

[Wayne Presley]

Wayne, the color looks awesome! Have you considered adding a splash of the orange on the rims to tie it all together? Not a lot, maybe just inside the spokes...


Wayne doesn't sand and my painter doesn't do wheels, too much time involved to make a buck at it. The last set he painted he charged $200 a wheel, said it wasn't enough to go through the work of sanding, masking and painting.

[fateo66]

Who's heat exchanger is that?

BTW nice looking brakes!

[Wayne Presley]

The heat exchanger is part of the VCP AWIC kit.

[D K]

^^^

Wayne, whats the price of the AWC kit? Have you driven the car with it?
Does it have any issues with the water not cooling back down?

David

[Wayne Presley]

It cools way better than the stock air to air. The GRM car saw intake temps 40°F above ambient driving it around, the AWIC shows 10°F or less above ambient.

[da King]

Interesting numbers, have you put the whole AWIC package, pump & rad on a scale? Is the capacity for coolant more or less than Erik's rad(s), just wondering.
Finn

[Frank818]

It cools way better than the stock air to air. The GRM car saw intake temps 40°F above ambient driving it around, the AWIC shows 10°F or less above ambient.

I can confirm that on a car that has nothing to do with the 818 or Subarus, using a completely different kit. I always get temps just a bit over ambient temps. And the more the ambient temp rises, the less that difference (AWIC temp minus AMBIENT temp). There is no way I will fit an air-to-air cooler, no matter the project I would be working on. Even if someone pays me to use an air-to-air. No way.

[gwader]

Yes... It will be bad ***!!! Numbers on the doors?

[Wayne Presley]

Interesting numbers, have you put the whole AWIC package, pump & rad on a scale? Is the capacity for coolant more or less than Erik's rad(s), just wondering.
Finn

The single heat exchanger has about 35% more surface area than Erik's twins. Erik got his from me and trying out both to see which works best. I have not weighed the whole package yet.



Yes... It will be bad ***!!! Numbers on the doors?

No numbers on the doors, it's a street car.

[JeromeS13]

Wayne,

Will you also be running a reservoir?

[Wayne Presley]

Wayne,

Will you also be running a reservoir?

I'll be running a 1 quart one, if it was a race car it would have a 4 gallon one full of ice and water.

[Wayne Presley]

I have all the panels but the windshield frame at the shop :cool:

[Mechie3]

That means pics by dinner time, right?

[Wayne Presley]

That means pics by dinner time, right?

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc175/vcpinjectionpb/20131015_145741_zps976018b6.jpg (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/vcpinjectionpb/media/20131015_145741_zps976018b6.jpg.html)

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc175/vcpinjectionpb/20131015_164557_zpsc8dd4167.jpg (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/vcpinjectionpb/media/20131015_164557_zpsc8dd4167.jpg.html)

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc175/vcpinjectionpb/20131015_164358_zps1eeca159.jpg (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/vcpinjectionpb/media/20131015_164358_zps1eeca159.jpg.html)

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc175/vcpinjectionpb/20131015_164348_zps0af89726.jpg (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/vcpinjectionpb/media/20131015_164348_zps0af89726.jpg.html)

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc175/vcpinjectionpb/20131015_164321_zps168d4895.jpg (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/vcpinjectionpb/media/20131015_164321_zps168d4895.jpg.html)

[Wayne Presley]

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc175/vcpinjectionpb/20131015_164309_zps89743bd2.jpg (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/vcpinjectionpb/media/20131015_164309_zps89743bd2.jpg.html)

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc175/vcpinjectionpb/20131015_164301_zps92678bca.jpg (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/vcpinjectionpb/media/20131015_164301_zps92678bca.jpg.html)

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc175/vcpinjectionpb/20131015_164250_zpsf3ed5435.jpg (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/vcpinjectionpb/media/20131015_164250_zpsf3ed5435.jpg.html)

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc175/vcpinjectionpb/20131015_164234_zps2f03ba3e.jpg (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/vcpinjectionpb/media/20131015_164234_zps2f03ba3e.jpg.html)

[WIS89]

Wayne, that is all kinds of sexy!!

Keep up the awesome work!

Regards,

Steve

[flynntuna]

Wow!!! My hair burst into flames!

[rjh2pd]

Looks Great!! are you going to cut vents into the rear quarter panel? Can't wait to see the final product!

[07FIREBLADE]

Wow that's crazy. What seats r those?

[Bob_n_Cincy]

Spectacular Job Wayne.
Bob

[gwader]

YES!

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-cwiuS9RKUZU/TZ93gY9y5MI/AAAAAAAAAl4/SO1nN5nrSgQ/s400/excited.jpg

[wleehendrick]

22581

[SoulsofBlack]

wow that looks awesome!!!