And it begins..."The Flash" Build Thread

[Erik W. Treves]

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[conmech]

Way to go Erik. Now get to building.......... :D

[bnr32jason]

Congrats!

For the benefit of everyone, please start a build thread detailing your experience and progress throughout the build.

Thanks!






Totally jealous BTW.

[conmech]

Congrats!

For the benefit of everyone, please start a build thread detailing your experience and progress throughout the build.

Thanks!






Totally jealous BTW.

NEED LOTS OF PICS................... Please.

[Ironhydroxide]

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e344/TREVESK/20130615_082945_zpsfe81a918.jpg (http://s42.photobucket.com/user/TREVESK/media/20130615_082945_zpsfe81a918.jpg.html)

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SOOOO jelly right now.

[Rscocca]

Hi Erik,
It was a pleasure meeting you yesterday and finally putting a face to the name.
Good luck on your next project.
Bob S.

[Samiam1017]

Erik. Very excited to follow your build. As is everybody else here. Can you give us some Insight on how it's packed? Body mounted to chassis? A lot of guys are planning to pick there's up would be nice to know if you would recommend anything to take/build to help loading or strapping or what ever to make it easier for everybody down the road. Thx

[FFR-ADV]

Hi Erik and Wayne,

Nice to meet both of you yesterday. I look forward to following your build while I prepare for mine.

Thank you for blazing the trail for us!

Steve

[longislandwrx]

I wish everyone had nametags that said Hi my FFF Name is:

good luck with the build!

[wallace18]

Best of luck with your build and safe journey home. I look forward to your build posts.

[timmy318]

I wish everyone had nametags that said Hi my FFF Name is:

good luck with the build!

Hey, maybe next open-house everyone could do something like that! That would be a great idea!

[VD2021]

Congrats!

Really looking forward to the build log. With your prep I expect it will go "~smoothly":cool:

I've missed is if you've posted it prior, but what is your kit Number?

[Darkpiggy's dad]

Congrats Erik, I really look forward to your build. I get mine around Oct. 5. And am towing it back to Oak Park, Il. I hope to learn from your experience both towing and building. So here goes; we show horses and might might make it to Louisville this year, maybe I could drive a little farther south and have a look at your build? That's just a thought. Also, I am wondering how the body/chassis is crated or packed and if the whole thing could fit in a cleaned out 2 horse trailer with the dividers removed, and a huge tack room. I know you did some creative packing to carry two cars. I'm willing to be creative too. Have a good safe trip.

[bstuke]

See mine anywhere????? Congrats Erik!

[timmy318]

Hope mine was there somewhere!

[ehansen007]

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Bombin it! LOL.

[Erik W. Treves]

excellent!

[timmy318]

Mind me asking what chassis # you got? My order number is 085290 which is 7 behind yours (hoping that this kinda has a connection anyways)!

[first time builder]

EHANSON are you the photo bomber ? LOL

Kenny

[Silvertop]

Congrats Erik, I really look forward to your build. I get mine around Oct. 5. And am towing it back to Oak Park, Il. I hope to learn from your experience both towing and building. So here goes; we show horses and might might make it to Louisville this year, maybe I could drive a little farther south and have a look at your build? That's just a thought. Also, I am wondering how the body/chassis is crated or packed and if the whole thing could fit in a cleaned out 2 horse trailer with the dividers removed, and a huge tack room. I know you did some creative packing to carry two cars. I'm willing to be creative too. Have a good safe trip.

Well, that's interesting! My kit's production is also targeted for October 5. I'm not sure yet if I'll pick mine up, or have it delivered. But if I pick it up, I'll pretty much have to drive right past Oak Park, Illinois on my way to FFR. Maybe we would want to consider doing a caravan thing. A little built-in mutual road support. Something to think about, anyways......

[kgkeys]

Mind me asking what chassis # you got? My order number is 085290 which is 7 behind yours (hoping that this kinda has a connection anyways)!

Dave said in the open house video that Grass Roots is building #1, 1 of the 2 kits in the shop. So are you #2, Erik?

-Kyle

[timmy318]

Dave said in the open house video that Grass Roots is building #1, 1 of the 2 kits in the shop. So are you #2, Erik?

-Kyle

I like where this is heading... Top 10 maybe????? :D!!!

[Wayne Presley]

Erik's wheels look great..

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc175/vcpinjectionpb/20130612_092527_zps158b78db.jpg (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/vcpinjectionpb/media/20130612_092527_zps158b78db.jpg.html)

[Samiam1017]

What's the details on the wheels? Wayne are you going to offer up some wheels sales for the 818?

[Wayne Presley]

The wheels are Enkei Raijins (18x8, 18x9.5), my car will have the Enkei Kojins 17x8, 18x9.5). I sell any of the Enkei wheels and get you a discount.

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[07FIREBLADE]

Was planning on getting the raijins. What offset do you recommend getting?

[timmy318]

I'm currently choosing between some Konig Illusion with Blue or Silver Accents, Tenzo-R Concept 10 Matte Black, Tenzo-R Type M.V.1 Matte Black, and now thanks to this post the GW8 wheels from Enkei.... *Sigh* I can never seem to decide on what wheels I want on this dang car, no wheel seems to be able to "carry" the sexiness that this car brings!!

[Wayne Presley]

Was planning on getting the raijins. What offset do you recommend getting?

these are 45mm offset FR&RR , we'll see how they fit in a week

[Darkpiggy's dad]

Silvertop, I noticed awhile back that Oct. 5 cars were on a one truck delivery route, makes sense. Maybe when the time gets near, we can plan something.

[stack]

Wish I could have made the open house. Can't wait to see you put it together.

stack

[blueoval_bowtie_guy]

Erik,

Time to update your signature!

Steve

[Kalstar]

I would say he has #5 or #6 as I know the first few 818 were destroyed. Prototype 1 and 2 and then the SEMA car. Then there is the 818r and the 818s that FFR currently owns.

[Wayne Presley]

Stack, you should have come up, I mean Erik drove 1200 miles to get there and I came further :D

The frames sitting there were numbered 5, 6, and 7. I didn't look at the frame number of the one in the jig over in welding. Those are the GRM car, Erik's car and my car.

[Someday I Suppose]

Erik, so is the suspension on it yet or what?

[stack]

Stack, you should have come up, I mean Erik drove 1200 miles to get there and I came further :D

The frames sitting there were numbered 5, 6, and 7. I didn't look at the frame number of the one in the jig over in welding. Those are the GRM car, Erik's car and my car.

Had my kids this past weekend. We thought about all driving out but it would have been to much in the car for them. Looked like a great time. Pretty much a CW reunion haha. I'd rather shoot down to Alabama and hang out watch you guys build it

stack

[Erik W. Treves]

lol... nope. I am still in mass. spent father's day with my dad... going to load up the kits on Tuesday or Wednesday and head out Friday. will do inventory on Sunday and lay everything out on Sunday... stay tuned....

[Erik W. Treves]

In the time being...I really cannot take looking at that rat's nest they call a wiring harness in the WRX....after months of looking at that

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e344/TREVESK/818/2013-01-201245061_zpsdf87db13.jpg (http://s42.photobucket.com/user/TREVESK/media/818/2013-01-201245061_zpsdf87db13.jpg.html)

.....enough of that....

Some VeryCoolParts are needed to fix my issue....

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ahhhh...that looks better....

[RM1SepEx]

EriK and GRM have 5 & 4

818R =1
818S Sema = 2 = cut up
818S 3 is on the showroom floor

got answers at the open house

[RSxx]

did anyone who attended the open house got any information regarding production ramp up and if they will be ahead of their plan given the investments made to the production line (ie. laser cutter etc)? I am scheduled for Nov 2013 production and after seen all the pictures and how happy Erik looks on the pictures taking possession of his kits, makes it harder to wait til Nov.

[riptide motorsport]

Sweet,,,,,,,,,,,,,Congrats!

[gwader]

When does it get to the work shop?

[Erik W. Treves]

late Saturday afternoon

[DARKPT]

Any ideas on a paint scheme? Given the namesake, Red with Yellow/Gold is a must. Maybe red body with wheels matching the color of the STi's gold wheels?

[Erik W. Treves]

First 2 out the door!

6 hours worth of loading and 1.5 hours through Boston rush hour traffic...phase 1 complete....

you need 2x4 or 4x4's to support the frame so the body doesn't rub on the ground

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me and my bro

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first one in

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http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e344/TREVESK/818/20130619_120151_zpsfc88a18e.jpg (http://s42.photobucket.com/user/TREVESK/media/818/20130619_120151_zpsfc88a18e.jpg.html)

if one is good....two must be better

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[Erik W. Treves]

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Two worn out soldiers

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hmm.... looks like the Sun rises in the east(Again)....what say you Salty Dogs....lol...JK'ing

[gwader]

Yes!!!!!!!!!

[Canadian818]

Sweet! Can't wait to see the pics of the boxes getting opened...wow, that sounds lame, at least I know I'm not alone.

[thestigwins]

Looking good... Now head home and start building. ;)

[Erik W. Treves]

Want to give a shout out to Tony and the whole FFR group who helped man-handle these beasts into position...just a fantastic job! thanks guys!!!...you too Sally :D

[Wayne Presley]

Talk about putting a quart in a pint jar...

[metalmaker12]

Nice, good for you man

[Mechie3]

Awesome! Let us know what dimensions work for the dolly so we can all make ours and pretend we have cars to put on them! :D

[Erik W. Treves]

car dolly?? FFR has their own...they load it with it...I just use a skateboard on one end and lift on the other end and push it into the garage.

[Mechie3]

I mean, where did you put the blocks to hold it up? I want to build a dolly to hold it in the garage while I build it so I can wheel it around as needed too.

[Erik W. Treves]

I just laid 6 foot 2x6's across the bottom of the trailer and strapped it all down. I will put it up on jack stands and measure some points I guess if it will help...

[metalmaker12]

Yea Erik that will help. The cabin area from firewall to firewall and the frame width would help for a build dolly.

[Jeff Kleiner]

With them stacked up like that you kind of have a scaled down Stewart Transport deal going on there Erik!

THIS>>>


...Some VeryCoolParts are needed to fix my issue....

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....

...is groundbreaking! Thank you Wayne :cool: I'll be in touch!

Jeff

[metalmaker12]

I should have measured at open house, but I got lost in the excitement.

[Wayne Presley]

I should have measured at open house, but I got lost in the excitement.

LOL, it's not like they didn't have a frame in the show room and another sitting on a dolly in back to figure one out... :D

[mrvwcastner]

would 4 furniture dollies be easy way to unload directly from delivery service to concrete garage floor? I can use fork lift or pull it out with tractor or razor side by side, but imagine just man power enough. I plan to roll it to a 2 post lift & leave it there until done. I could use 4 post lift for all the underpannels etc.. But would rather use 2 post for most of the build. I have metal fabrication tables on wheels or could build cart, but not sure it would have any advantage. I guess I have time to ponder mine is Nov. Del date.

[DARKPT]

If you use Stewart Transport, they'll put it right on your jack stands for you. They travel with a cart to move the chassis from the back of the truck to your garage. Now, if the truck has to park a long distance away then you might need to make some arrangements. :)

[JRach]

Do you know if this is capable of controlling the AVCS for those of us with 06/07 donors?



Some VeryCoolParts are needed to fix my issue....

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ahhhh...that looks better....

[Mechie3]

Indiana likes to have these 4" tall drains on the curb. Wonder if that'll cause problems with their dolley.

One month until my kit is ready!!!

[DARKPT]

I'd let 'em know about the curb and let them make the call. Here's a pic of the dolly sticking out of the back of the truck that delivered my Coupe kit. Those are pneumatic tires.

18571

Sorry for the hijack, Erik. Now, back to the Flash build.

[metalmaker12]

LOL, it's not like they didn't have a frame in the show room and another sitting on a dolly in back to figure one out... :D

Yea I know, kind of dropped the ball, but if Someone can measure firewall to firewall and the width in this area I would be happy. I could try to call factory five, or take a drive over there, but why when I have my forum friends. Thanks Wayne;)

[Erik W. Treves]

On the way home!!!! Did 680 Miles today....beat....pizza and beer and off to bed...another 7.5 hours tomorrow...

the cars are riding great in the trailer...

[Frank818]

Hey Erik, nice to follow your trip! :)

Maybe it's too early to know, but do the fiberglass panels look pretty well cut? I know on the GTM there's quite some fiberglass work to do, like to make the windows fit, rear window and some other places where 2 panels are close from each other. I don't know if on the 818 at this stage (prehistoric loll) you can see if you'll need some fiberglass work.

[Erik W. Treves]

The panels looked to be good enough to run just like they are after a clean and buff....having said that...I will not be leaving it "stock"...so we'll see.

[metalmaker12]

The panels looked really good in terms of Fitup on the 818s. I would say you can get away with driving it around and it looks pretty good just buffed. I don't think there will be much figment issues, but we might run into some since it is hand laid and there is a percentage of error. I will be priming and painting my car.

[Frank818]

Great, tnx for the input! I'll put some fiberglass on my list of items, just in case. But then again, we'll see the result after a few get their project done.

[Erik W. Treves]

ok,,, well THERE ARE 818's in ALABAMA!!!

Arrival

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e344/TREVESK/818/20130622_161803_zpse7c6499c.jpg (http://s42.photobucket.com/user/TREVESK/media/818/20130622_161803_zpse7c6499c.jpg.html)

Just a few miles on the clock this trip! I am digging the Ecoboost!

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Drove 7.5 hours today and planned on waiting until tomorrow to unload...ha right

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[Mechie3]

Are you done yet? ! I love that there's a legit build thread with real 818s now.

[Canadian818]

Looking good! Do you already have all your subi parts?

[Erik W. Treves]

I was going to get started today...but I am pretty tired... I still have to do inventory and see what's in all the boxes...additionally I have been ordering a ton of parts...so I have to see what came in...

[Frank818]

Oh god, 12mpg lolll
But it's good to be back home, hey? Sweet home Alabama! :)

Did you mention yet what are your donors?

[Erik W. Treves]

inventory complete

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e344/TREVESK/818/20130623_073123_RichtoneHDR_zps9ff45bb9.jpg (http://s42.photobucket.com/user/TREVESK/media/818/20130623_073123_RichtoneHDR_zps9ff45bb9.jpg.html)

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[Erik W. Treves]

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[metalmaker12]

Your not done yet, I am jealous.

[Mechie3]

Our first look at the door frame.

What year is your donor? I'm curious to know of the exhaust adapter that fits through the floor is year specific.

[bstuke]

You inspired me Erik. I just spent the afternoon getting in a position to pull the engine. Hopefully will have everything stripped out by the end of the week.

[Erik W. Treves]

Some progress today...didn't really start until noon...slow going getting up to speed and getting my head around to what will be done first.. already looking to modify a few areas...so that slowed things down...

also if you have some aftermarket front a-arm bushings like the whitelines I have...not only do you have to put the left one on the right BUT YOU HAVE TO FLIP THE BUSHING OVER...man I spent 1 hour trying to understand why the A-arm would not fit...

anyway...here is the little progress I made today...really wanted to have the front suspension done....

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e344/TREVESK/818/20130623_100250_RichtoneHDR_zps7a357c52.jpg (http://s42.photobucket.com/user/TREVESK/media/818/20130623_100250_RichtoneHDR_zps7a357c52.jpg.html)

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http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e344/TREVESK/818/20130623_164639_RichtoneHDR_zps9fb0a92b.jpg (http://s42.photobucket.com/user/TREVESK/media/818/20130623_164639_RichtoneHDR_zps9fb0a92b.jpg.html)

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[Mechie3]

Does that mean you have an assembly manual now?

[Erik W. Treves]

Nope... Using the inventory list and item description.. I have a few pages of an initial draft.. I wouldn't call it a manual...

[Frank818]

Does that mean you have an assembly manual now?

The truth is, he's writing it as he's building it. lolll

[07FIREBLADE]

What type of modifications are you planning? Looking good. Keep things coming. Cant wait until your finished with the build.

[Canadian818]

The front frame section appears to be bare metal. Can you confirm this? Any idea why?

[RM1SepEx]

I see a bunch of parts that could be powder coated...

[Wayne Presley]

The front frame section appears to be bare metal. Can you confirm this? Any idea why?

The front frame will come powdercoated if you order the frame powdercoated, these two front nose support frames were welded after the main frame went to the coaters.

[RM1SepEx]

Wayne, what about the door frames, will they be powdered too if the frame is ordered powder coated?

wondering what mods I may need to do oven wise.... :-)

[timmy318]

Would the 818 fit in a 18 ft trailer? Hoping to drive up to Wareham and pick it up myself :D!

[Wayne Presley]

Wayne, what about the door frames, will they be powdered too if the frame is ordered powder coated?

wondering what mods I may need to do oven wise.... :-)

I do not believe the door frames will come with the powedercoating


Would the 818 fit in a 18 ft trailer? Hoping to drive up to Wareham and pick it up myself :D!

Absolutely, Erik put 2 kits in a 16 foot trailer for his ride back from FFR.

[timmy318]

Absolutely, Erik put 2 kits in a 16 foot trailer for his ride back from FFR.

That's even better! Thanks for the clarification!

[bstuke]

I am surprised nobody is talking about "the item"...

[Mechie3]

Maybe I would....if I knew what "the item" was.

:confused:

[DARKPT]

I doubt it is "the item", but I'm curious where the second kit is going. Another build in H'Ville?

[Mechie3]

Grassroots motorsports is getting the other one.

[PhyrraM]

......also if you have some aftermarket front a-arm bushings like the whitelines .......not only do you have to put the left one on the right BUT YOU HAVE TO FLIP THE BUSHING OVER..... I spent 1 hour trying to understand why the A-arm would not fit........

Hopefully those are just regular Whiteline replacement bushings? If those are the anti-lift kit bushings then you are likely changing FFRs suspension geometry. I bet that the team did their designing around the OEM geometry bushing.

[longislandwrx]

aftermarket ones add caster iirc, should be easy enough to dial it back out with the upper control arms. I think you'll be ok.

[bstuke]

I doubt it is "the item", but I'm curious where the second kit is going. Another build in H'Ville?Nope. And if I give a hint, it will give it away. Plus I suck at hints!

[bstuke]

Hopefully those are just regular Whiteline replacement bushings? If those are the anti-lift kit bushings then you are likely changing FFRs suspension geometry. I bet that the team did their designing around the OEM geometry bushing.My thought as well.


aftermarket ones add caster iirc, should be easy enough to dial it back out with the upper control arms. I think you'll be ok.My other thought!

Are there other than Whiteline those of us that are in the process of preparing our control arm/sway bar/links that could be considered?

[Erik W. Treves]

Hopefully those are just regular Whiteline replacement bushings? If those are the anti-lift kit bushings then you are likely changing FFRs suspension geometry. I bet that the team did their designing around the OEM geometry bushing.

They did use OEM bushings, but because I am bolting the bushing to the top of the mount opposed to from under and the thickness of the bushing housing..the delta is minimum if any...worst case the nose will dive a little more than stock..but in speaking with FFR, simply appling thin spacers I can dial in the dive correction if I don't like how the car reacts..

the take away from this .... yes you can use the bushings..it's a non-event in my book...moving on...

[Wayne Presley]

I doubt it is "the item", but I'm curious where the second kit is going. Another build in H'Ville?

Second kit is coming to me.

[DARKPT]

Ah, I thought Stewart had yours Wayne.

So, is "the item" what looks like a blue caulk gun in the final pic of post #81? I thought that was Wayne that was teased about including it in his build pics... :confused:


Dan

[Wayne Presley]

My car was not ready for the open house but was on Thursday when Erik loaded. GRM isn't going to be out to the shop until mid July to start building on their car so Erik loaded my car and Stewart is bringing the GRM car in about 10 days. I wanted to get started on my car, am picking it up from Erik tomorrow!!!!!!

[bstuke]

blue caulk gunGood eye, the more teasing the better..

[Mechie3]

Oh, I thought that was an LED work light.

My caulk gun is orange, I think. Maybe that's why I don't have my kit yet. ;)

[bstuke]

Oh, I thought that was an LED work light.

My caulk gun is orange, I think. Maybe that's why I don't have my kit yet. ;)Makes perfect sense to me!

[Wayne Presley]

Hmmmm, doesn't work for me as mine is orange too.

[RM1SepEx]

how much silicone caulk can we expect to use? do you use black?

[Erik W. Treves]

I use 1 to 2 per cobra...you can use whatever color you wish...I am using black and clear.

[Frank818]

Ok this may be a stupid question or the answer is probably somewhere else anyway, but what are you using the caulk for exactly?

[blueoval_bowtie_guy]

With the FFR kits, you put caulk with every seam of the aluminum panels and between the aluminum panels and the frame members. The caulk under the panels acts as a water seal when you put the rivets in and decrease the vibrations.

[Frank818]

Oh! Tnx.
Then if I read say the GTM build manual (818's not ready yet) I guess I'll see pictures of that.

[blueoval_bowtie_guy]

Oh! Tnx.
Then if I read say the GTM build manual (818's not ready yet) I guess I'll see pictures of that.

I would think so.

[PhyrraM]

They did use OEM bushings, but because I am .................. yes you can use the bushings..it's a non-event in my book...moving on...

No worries. Just a thought I had. I figured it might save somebody some frustration down the road to throw it out now.

[Erik W. Treves]

Had to work a full day today at work so only got 2 hours to work on the car today.

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e344/TREVESK/818/20130624_201915_zps3b116082.jpg (http://s42.photobucket.com/user/TREVESK/media/818/20130624_201915_zps3b116082.jpg.html)


http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e344/TREVESK/818/20130624_201847_zps244ce941.jpg (http://s42.photobucket.com/user/TREVESK/media/818/20130624_201847_zps244ce941.jpg.html)


http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e344/TREVESK/818/20130624_202441_zps6b6a9e1a.jpg (http://s42.photobucket.com/user/TREVESK/media/818/20130624_202441_zps6b6a9e1a.jpg.html)

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e344/TREVESK/20130624_202416_zps19b12a23.jpg (http://s42.photobucket.com/user/TREVESK/media/20130624_202416_zps19b12a23.jpg.html)

[bstuke]

Stuck a wheel on that yet?

[Wayne Presley]

Stuck a wheel on that yet?

that would be a good trick since they are sitting in my shop :D

[Frank818]

What? Took you only one Coors Light to install that suspension? :)

[07FIREBLADE]

I know right only 1 coors looking good.... keep it coming

[Ironhydroxide]

Had to work a full day today at work so only got 2 hours to work on the car today.


http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e344/TREVESK/818/20130624_201847_zps244ce941.jpg (http://s42.photobucket.com/user/TREVESK/media/818/20130624_201847_zps244ce941.jpg.html)



one thing to note, you NEED to break down your used front axles, keep the inner Cone for the Rear, bolt the OUTER cone into the Knuckle/bearing. this cone holds the bearing halves together and the bearing in the knuckle. If you don't have it, your first drive will end VERY badly.

[Erik W. Treves]

it's only just sitting there...if you look close the bolts are still rusty and not torque striped.....I still have to finish the install...I just needed a side done so my brother has something to look at as an example.

[Ironhydroxide]

good, just making sure that's clear. I would cry if i saw that it happened the first drive, especially if I didn't mention it.

[bbjones121]

This is exciting! Now I need to get instant updates all day during work.:D

[longislandwrx]

Erik, did you just spray paint the bulkhead aluminum?

Are those red? rivets provided?

[Erik W. Treves]

I epoxy coated the aluminum.

the rivets are powdercoated red...rivets are provide but they are plain aluminum colored...so they are still in the bag.

[MurrayT]

Erik, I am really enjoying this thread. Thank you for posting.

[blueoval_bowtie_guy]

I epoxy coated the aluminum.

the rivets are powdercoated red...rivets are provide but they are plain aluminum colored...so they are still in the bag.

After building my Cobra with plain aluminum panels, I plan on painting them when I build my 818s (probably a year before I can order it).

[Mechie3]

After building my Cobra with plain aluminum panels, I plan on painting them when I build my 818s (probably a year before I can order it).

Any specific reason?
Hide dirt?
Looks?
Heat?

[blueoval_bowtie_guy]

Any specific reason?
Hide dirt?
Looks?
Heat?

Looks and to make it easier to clean.

I used Fatmat insulation under the carpet, so I do have a little isolation from the heat. Even with powered footbox vents, my Cobra interior gets miserable hot.

Steve

[Canadian818]

I was considering spraying the inside and outside of the cockpit with lizard-skin, for heat and sound deadining. Definitely want to paint it at least though. Nothing worse than dirty pitted aluminum.

[longislandwrx]

krylon spray epoxy or something else?

[cmcintyre]

This was used by the publisher of Kit Car Magazine when he did his Roadster and wrote a book on the build.

http://www.eastwood.com/sharkhide-aluminum-protectant-quart.html?srccode=ga130110&device=c&matchtype=b&network=g&creative=4453943730&gclid=CIPeraLJ_7cCFUGk4AodvkcAWQ

Anybody else have experience with it?

[AZPete]

I used Sharkhide on the aluminum panels, and other metals parts, on my roadster. When I sold it after 2 years the panels looked new and it was easy to clean but realize that I live in the Arizona desert with lots of heat and dust but no salty roads. I'm now coating 818 parts in Sharkhide and I'll use it on the panels when I get my kit in August.

Regarding insulation, look at EZCool. It's a foil backed foam that is used in NASCAR and it's very effective for heat and noise, plus it's MUCH lighter than other stuff.
http://www.lobucrod.com/
Pete

[Mechie3]

Erik hasn't posted yet. Since yesterday morning. Either he's busy working, or someone else found him and took his kit.

[Xusia]

Wasn't Wayne on his way there, last we heard from him?? Hmm...

[Wayne Presley]

I was there last night, he's working hard on it. Sent me a pic an hour ago and the front suspension and brakes are on.

[Erik W. Treves]

ok guys...sorry....long day at work yesterday and had to pick up my brother at the airport... Wayne and I worked on few things, but mostly walked around the car and talked about the path ahead..also helped him load up...

today...lot's of progress...a good 5 hours...

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e344/TREVESK/818/IMG_7932_zpsf0ff2594.jpg (http://s42.photobucket.com/user/TREVESK/media/818/IMG_7932_zpsf0ff2594.jpg.html)

just playing

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e344/TREVESK/818/IMG_7933_zps68602c40.jpg (http://s42.photobucket.com/user/TREVESK/media/818/IMG_7933_zps68602c40.jpg.html)


http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e344/TREVESK/818/IMG_7934_zps852310c1.jpg (http://s42.photobucket.com/user/TREVESK/media/818/IMG_7934_zps852310c1.jpg.html)

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e344/TREVESK/818/IMG_7937_zps3913ab46.jpg (http://s42.photobucket.com/user/TREVESK/media/818/IMG_7937_zps3913ab46.jpg.html)

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e344/TREVESK/photo_zpsa6e01bef.jpg (http://s42.photobucket.com/user/TREVESK/media/photo_zpsa6e01bef.jpg.html)

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e344/TREVESK/818/IMG_7935_zpsb3dcfc9d.jpg (http://s42.photobucket.com/user/TREVESK/media/818/IMG_7935_zpsb3dcfc9d.jpg.html)

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e344/TREVESK/818/20130626_215303_zpscdbdcd2b.jpg (http://s42.photobucket.com/user/TREVESK/media/818/20130626_215303_zpscdbdcd2b.jpg.html)

[Samiam1017]

Very nice. Looks like lots of progress in only 5 hours.

[Mechie3]

Nice. What size and offset is that front wheel?

[Erik W. Treves]

18 x 8.5 +45 offset

[thestigwins]

I love those wheels. Thank you for taking the time to post pictures and discuss your build. I'm sure there a ton of lurkers on this forum like myself that check this site multiple times a day hoping you have an update.

[timmy318]

You can not believe how slow these 9 days are going to go by me gazing at this build thread!

[longislandwrx]

I was going to use a stock rad for the weight, but these aluminum ones look so much more substantial. Why the tilt though?

Also click the pics, quite a bit more on his photobucket.

[JAubin]

Awesome photos, some really nice prep work and detail in your build already! I wonder how distorted everyone's view that is new to building a kit car (myself included) is getting in seeing how fast you're putting yours together.

[blueoval_bowtie_guy]

I love those wheels. Thank you for taking the time to post pictures and discuss your build. I'm sure there a ton of lurkers on this forum like myself that check this site multiple times a day hoping you have an update.

I too think there are a lot of lurkers (myself included!).

I can't wait to see the finished result and hear what Erik has to say about the finished product.

[blueoval_bowtie_guy]

I was going to use a stock rad for the weight, but these aluminum ones look so much more substantial. Why the tilt though?

Also click the pics, quite a bit more on his photobucket.

The tilt is to get the radiator to fit under the hood.

Thanks for telling us about photobucket!

[Mechie3]

Do we need to reuse the stock hardlines for the brakes or fuel? I've been storing these since last year and they don't store neatly. It'd be nice to finally fold them up into the scrap bucket.

[David Hodgkins]

Mechie, I know the rest of the kits from FFR com with new hardlines, but I defer to Erik for the definitive answer.

BTW I hope no one gets the idea that their kit will go together as fast a Erik's or Wayne's. Both of these guys are notorious for their fast building skills! They are perfect guys to be doing the first builds, because if there are any issues with the kit, they will find them fast! We really couldn't have a better set of guys doing the first builds.

:)

PS I do have one request for you Erik. Can you post pics to an album here?

[Erik W. Treves]

Dave , sure. no problem at all.. I was just thinking about that. I will start with today's updates after we setup to get the car on the ground with the engine in it :rolleyes:

stay tuned...

[blueoval_bowtie_guy]

Dave , sure. no problem at all.. I was just thinking about that. I will start with today's updates after we setup to get the car on the ground with the engine in it :rolleyes:

stay tuned...

What a tease! Damn, I do have to get some work done sometime today. I can't just keep hitting refresh!

[gwader]

Finally more pics! Your making some great progress.

[metalmaker12]

I can not wait to build mine soon

[DodgyTim]

Erik, I see from the photos you are building on car stands. I'll have to have a trolley/dolly because I'm short on build space nad will need to move it against a wall when I'm not working on it.
Can you please post the measurements front/back and side/side (and possibly a couple of photos) so I can get the trolly/dolly started?

[Frank818]

Those wheels are nice. I would like to see how deep the concave face would be on the rear ones.

But hey Erik, something flammable right underneath the car? :) I hope you don't smoke!

[MurrayT]

What kind of radiator is that?

[Erik W. Treves]

Well.... another 4 hours or so on the Flash today... I think...well....it looks ..... OK.... maybe I will go ahead and finish it..... ARE YOU KIDDING ME>>>>> this thing looks hot!!! I was going to paint it right away....but man-o-man I am digging the wheels with the white....

My Brother enjoying the day!!! Good job Blake thanks for the HELP!!!!!

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=19232&d=1372388782

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=19231&d=1372388692

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=19229&d=1372388586

ok.. now we need a motor!

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=19230&d=1372388611

All turned around and ready for install of the motor in the morning....

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=19233&d=1372390301

[JayStockE30]

Wow, go on vacation and leave the internet behind for a few days and look what happens. Keep up the good work!

[ehansen007]

where'd you get the seats? How do they fit?

[Erik W. Treves]

I got them on ebay...$298- free ship (2 days) with seat adjusters... fit right in the hole..seem ok...we totally just threw them in the hole for the pic.,,they feel super comfortable for the 3 mins I sat in them... I really need to make sure they really do fit, but I think they look pretty good regardless.

[thestigwins]

to be honest I am kind of bummed out over this thread. I decided to hold out and was looking at building a cobra because I wasn't 100 percent sold on the looks. I think the problem I had at SEMA was it was red and thats my least favorite color. After look at your photos Erick i am kicking myself. I let a few donors go and now will have to wait over a year to have one built. I do agree that the wheels look awesome on it.

[blueoval_bowtie_guy]

Holy sh*t does the rake of the windshield look amazing!

[bnr32jason]

I don't think the final completed build will have the windshield raked that much.

If you look at the pictures from the open house, it isn't anywhere near that raked.

[Flamshackle]

Holy sh*t does the rake of the windshield look amazing!

Yea I am keen to understand why the rake is so extreme on this build??? is it just a test fitting where the angle is very adjustable? to be honest it looks wrong that low.

[Samiam1017]

What size tires did you go with. And I guess there's no clearance issues as it sits?

[Jeff Kleiner]

Thanks for the updates Erik; I knew it would take shape quickly!

You know, it's interesting to see components and practices that we are familiar with from the other FFR products being incorporated here as well (fabricated spindle adapters, UCAs, etc.).

Carry on :)

Jeff

[bstuke]

What kind of radiator is that?http://www.ebay.com/itm/DNA-Dual-Core-High-Capacity-Race-Aluminum-Radiator-for-Subaru-02-07-Impreza-WRX-/271063832277?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&fits=Year%3A2006%7CMake%3ASubaru%7CModel%3AImpreza %7CSubmodel%3AWRX%7CEngine+-+Liter_Display%3A2.5L&hash=item3f1ca9d6d5&vxp=mtr

[JeromeS13]

What size/offset on the rear? Tires sizes F&R?

Thanks for being our guinea pig!

[Erik W. Treves]

Thanks Jeff, yeah the FFR theme to the build it there and you get into that familiar rhythm of where ad how it goes together...nice and simple!


Yea I am keen to understand why the rake is so extreme on this build??? is it just a test fitting where the angle is very adjustable? to be honest it looks wrong that low.

You guys need to take a breath, seriously, I threw it all together so you could see it as a roller...only 2 of the 4 bolts holding the windshield actually have nuts on them and other 2 are just placed in there to keep the windshield from falling down... I needed the space in the garage and I was worried about breaking it since I am working kinda fast..so I figured the safest place for it was on the car. It's almost 7 am and I could be putting the motor in right now, but instead I am putting this fire out, I mean it's the 4th day of the build and only about 20 hours of actual build time....let me get through it and keep the "fire starting" to a minimum...PLEASE, else I will have to stop posting picture until I am done! ...lol...


What size tires did you go with. And I guess there's no clearance issues as it sits?

Bad guess... I have issues in the front and the back... BUT I am outside the box in what I am running so posting sizes is not what I am interested in doing right now until I resolve the issues...which are minor in my eyes...but to keep the fire starting to a minimum...let me figure it out first...The one thing I will say is that I am NOT following the size recommendations front or rear...so if you stay to what has been posted by Wayne from the testing thread and what we have from the open house, you will be fine...I am going for a specific look and like to understand the limits of the design.

[Erik W. Treves]

Ok..off the soap box...

As the 5th day opens, we plan to have the motor in today... and for now it will be just laying in the motor mounts... I need to understand where it sits so I put the stand alone electrical and fuel injection system in , and some of the modifications I am doing as well (you'll have to wait for those...) once the motor is in ...going to start looking at the doors probably, but the big items will be hung in position...I need to figure out what I am going to do with the dash....I feel like I need some custom touches there...we'll see...mainly just want to get it together and get database started... working real close with Factory Five and Wayne...things are looking good for the rest of you!

stay tuned.....we'll get there...the car IS really cool and put together VERY well...fun to work on is an understatement!

[bstuke]

Bad guess... I have issues in the front and the back... BUT I am outside the box in what I am running so posting sizes is not what I am interested in doing right now until I resolve the issues...which are minor in my eyes...but to keep the fire starting to a minimum...let me figure it out first...The one thing I will say is that I am NOT following the size recommendations front or rear...so if you stay to what has been post by Wayne from the testing thread and what we have from the open house, you will be fine...I am going for a specific look and like to understand the limits of the design.http://www.summitracing.com/parts/arp-100-7716/overview/:cool:

[Erik W. Treves]

yeah... was hoping to not tear that all down again...but might have to.... the other option is Eibach make some nice adapters that will probably work as well..

similar to these....

http://www.monstermarketplace.com/scion-parts-and-accessories/eibach-20mm-bolt-on-wheel-spacers-scion-fr-s-2013

but I have like 3/8-1/2 clearance with the spacers I have in there now...I am going to remove some of the spacers and see how much it tucks the tire...the profile is about perfect right now for me.... more to follow...this are is not done for sure.

[VD2021]

It's almost unreal as to how quickly you're progressing through the build. Outstanding!

For me those wheels are the perfect match.

Small Request..... Can you get a picture (same angle) with the camera around the height, or just below the top, of the windshield? Pictures almost never do a vehicle justice, but pictures from that height reference usually help. Thanks.

[Erik W. Treves]

next time I have it outside...it is in the garage with all the panels off of it now.

[Mechie3]

it's the 4th day of the build and only about 20 hours of actual build time....


Well, geez...what's taking you so long? ;)

Are there any tips that you use to improve build speed without sacrificing quality? I've found in my projects, I start out good, but as I progress, I slowly stop putting tools away all the time and eventually I end up spending an hour just picking up because I can't find any of my tools anymore.



Bad guess... I have issues in the front and the back... BUT I am outside the box in what I am running so posting sizes is not what I am interested in doing right now until I resolve the issues...which are minor in my eyes...but to keep the fire starting to a minimum...let me figure it out first...The one thing I will say is that I am NOT following the size recommendations front or rear...so if you stay to what has been posted by Wayne from the testing thread and what we have from the open house, you will be fine...I am going for a specific look and like to understand the limits of the design.

I'll be watching/waiting for this. All of my wheels are currently 18x9.5, so I'm likely to have problems. I'm holding off on buying news one quite yet until I can see what happens. I figure, worst case, I'll have a month where I'm waiting for the DMV to send me plates and what not where I can fiddle with wheels.


stay tuned.....we'll get there...the car IS really cool and put together VERY well...fun to work on is an understatement!

So you're saying that, like legos as a kid, I might just want to build it, look at it for a few days, then take it apart just so I can build it again? :lol:

[metros]

Nice job on the fast progress and good selection of wheels. Appearance wise they fit the car very well.

It doesn't look like the S version will allow the use of harnesses because of how low the straight bar is across the back of the seats. Wonder if FFR would do somekind of middle ground rollbar. Meaning I want to run harnesses in the car but don't want the full cage because it will still see street time.

[Tony Zullo]

Hi Erik lookin good just as i expected ,those wheels look so right..

[metalmaker12]

Not to shabby, lol, like those wheels on the car, nice work man

[wleehendrick]

It doesn't look like the S version will allow the use of harnesses because of how low the straight bar is across the back of the seats. Wonder if FFR would do somekind of middle ground rollbar. Meaning I want to run harnesses in the car but don't want the full cage because it will still see street time.

The rollbar on the R is higher, but from all the photos I've seen, the square frame crossmember to which you would attach a harness is the same on both R and S. The R has a low Kirkey seat, and perhaps Eric's seats are a bit higher which is throwing off your perspective. I'm sure Eric's seat position isn't final yet, and I doubt adding harneses to the S will be a problem. If your seat is too high for a harness, an add-on harness bar (as is often used in sedans) should work.

P.S. It's looking great, and I thought the extra windshield rake looked mean!

[Mechie3]

we totally just threw them in the hole for the pic.,,they feel super comfortable for the 3 mins I sat in them... I really need to make sure they really do fit, but I think they look pretty good regardless.


I'm sure Eric's seat position isn't final yet,

As per Eric himself, you are correct. I'm interested in seeing what it takes to mount the seats, or if he got WRX specific adapters/brackets.

[wleehendrick]

perhaps Eric's seats are a bit higher which is throwing off your perspective.

Looking at the photos again, I think the issue is the harness slots in the seats Eric has are way higher than most... Wookie seats!

[metros]

You're right, compared to Eric and Blake the harness slots are really high. Good eye on that detail.

How tall are you guys?

[Erik W. Treves]

The engine is in

[metalmaker12]

The engine is in
Good work bro, post em. I am getting excited for you and I can not wait to get my kit July 20th

[gwader]

Yes!

[Frank818]

Ok so what, 2 weeks and the car will be built and ready to drive every day?
So much for the 250h estimated to build the kit! An expert does that in 50h. lolll

[bnr32jason]

They were probably saying 250hours for someone like me who will spend half of that time just making sure the parts are going on/in the correct way.

[metalmaker12]

I think the 250 includes the tear down and build. I plan on having my 818 done just a fast. Erik is doing a great job, Erik how many hours you at now

[metalmaker12]

They were probably saying 250hours for someone like me who will spend half of that time just making sure the parts are going on/in the correct way. lol you will be fine, it is really not that complex, the teardown and restoration of parts are at the same skill set level.

[Frank818]

They were probably saying 250hours for someone like me who will spend half of that time just making sure the parts are going on/in the correct way.

Or half of the time looking for your tools. lolll
Who mentioned that again, I can't recall. :)

[Erik W. Treves]

First order of business was to swap out injectors for the new turbo and then add some VeryCoolParts crank trigger for the stand alone EFI

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=19251&d=1372471974

new turbo...

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=19250&d=1372471972

after that picked up the motor and got it into position... I could not get enough leverage to pull the nut off the back of the tranny, although I proved in fact my LSD is working...lol... so I had some extra inner CV's and some bent control arms and welded up some breaker bars to hold both sides of the LSD using the frame as my back stop.

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=19252&d=1372471975

Pushed the engine all the way in until it touched the timing cover...it is a hit, drop down, push forward, drop down...repeat exercise from this point...

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=19253&d=1372471976

then it hits the oil fill tube...so take that off FIRST!

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=19254&d=1372471982

then the engine hoist hits the frame... I installed the floor jack under the car and added some lift to the back of the car to get the engine in some more.

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=19265&d=1372473069

Then the degas tank hits..so you can take all the bolts off and leave the hoses connected, you will just have to hold it back out of the way...

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=19271&d=1372473275

[Erik W. Treves]

With the engine now in and my "breaker bars" resting on the frame, I now have enough leverage to break loose the nut

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=19267&d=1372473074

THis is what you take out...

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=19269&d=1372473077

engine installed

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=19263&d=1372471995

Exhaust , initial thoughts of potential lower exit...we'll see...

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=19272&d=1372473720

[metalmaker12]

Erik, I noticed you left the headers on for the install, i would think without them would be easier, but you did it so it can be done, nice work. Also the rear lower links look to be using donor bolts, they are not provided with the kit? I thought we just need spindle to shock hardware?

[Mechie3]

Looks like aftermarket downpipes might work without the adapter (at least non catted ones). The oil tube pic didn't show. I'm trying to make a custom one so I'm interested in seeing that.

[Erik W. Treves]

Pic shows fine on my computer.


Erik, I noticed you left the headers on for the install, i would think without them would be easier, but you did it so it can be done, nice work. Also the rear lower links look to be using donor bolts, they are not provided with the kit? I thought we just need spindle to shock hardware?

from the factory five website...the initial list of stuff you need...

Rear lower control arms, toe links, and CV joints

[metalmaker12]

Pic shows fine on my computer.



from the factory five website...the initial list of stuff you need.


Rear lower control arms, toe links, and CV joints

A daaaaa lol guess I missed that, I have them anyway thanks. My set are worn, think I will pic up new ones

[mentatbashar]

Hi Erik, I've been following this thread since the open house even though I'm not building an 818. Congratulations on getting the engine in! Thanks for sharing your build pictures! :cool:

[ClemsonS197]

My roadster's not even finished and I'm drooling over this car. Freaking awesome.

[Xusia]

They were probably saying 250hours for someone like me who will spend half of that time just making sure the parts are going on/in the correct way.

Yep. That will be me too. :)

[thestigwins]

The body work side of things is where all of the time is going to be saved.

[JeromeS13]

Erik, what turbo is that? VF52?

[Erik W. Treves]

yes

[Frank818]

Congrats on the engine install!

What stand alone EFI are you using?

[Stickshift84]

Erik, I was looking at ordering a set of 18x8.5/9.5 wheels with +44 offset. Can you tell me what kind of spacers or how you are getting the wheel fitment correct?

[C.Plavan]

Painted Aluminum trans? Looks too clean! :)

[kach22i]

Yea I am keen to understand why the rake is so extreme on this build??? is it just a test fitting where the angle is very adjustable? to be honest it looks wrong that low.
Looks down right scary, and not in a good way. Like a post roll-over picture.

I did a search but have not found the windshield information I was looking for.

What is the windshield from?

[shim2]

Looks down right scary, and not in a good way. Like a post roll-over picture.

I did a search but have not found the windshield information I was looking for.

What is the windshield from?

I believe it's from an mk3 mr2

[gwader]

Mr2

[metalmaker12]

It is not fully mounted yet

[Mechie3]

Looks down right scary, and not in a good way. Like a post roll-over picture.

I did a search but have not found the windshield information I was looking for.

What is the windshield from?

Just so others don't see this and get confused. The windshield is not fully installed. It's just bolted on halfway so it's not lying on the garage floor.

Edit: We posted at the same time. ha!

[Erik W. Treves]

Congrats on the engine install!

What stand alone EFI are you using?

electromotive Tec-S

[Erik W. Treves]

Just so others don't see this and get confused. The windshield is not fully installed. It's just bolted on halfway so it's not lying on the garage floor.

Edit: We posted at the same time. ha!

...not to mention that I even explained it previously...

"You guys need to take a breath, seriously, I threw it all together so you could see it as a roller...only 2 of the 4 bolts holding the windshield actually have nuts on them and other 2 are just placed in there to keep the windshield from falling down... I needed the space in the garage and I was worried about breaking it since I am working kinda fast..so I figured the safest place for it was on the car."

[Erik W. Treves]

Erik, I was looking at ordering a set of 18x8.5/9.5 wheels with +44 offset. Can you tell me what kind of spacers or how you are getting the wheel fitment correct?

Can't help yet until I figure it out myself...

[Frank818]

electromotive Tec-S

Ha! That's the one we see on a pic at the beginning somewhere.

I wonder how easy it is to tune on a WRX compared to say DTA's unit.

You going on a dyno to tune it?

[Erik W. Treves]

I will carry it down to Wayne and let him put a Very cool parts.com tune on it.. It is the only dyno shop I use..

[bstuke]

I will carry it down to Wayne and let him put a Very cool parts.com tune on it.. It is the only dyno shop I use..

I am also using VCP's custom Electromotive Tec-S system. You can order it complete with a wiring harness, and it will be perfect for my 818R build.

[Erik W. Treves]

Another day , hard at it....it was pretty warm out and I think I wasn't feeling that great.. still got some stuff done...started electrical, mounted EFI ECU, played around with the Aluminum puzzle...sat and looked at the car a while....

not much to show since the big pieces are on...

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=19305&d=1372553986

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=19304&d=1372553985

ECU mounted behind the seat

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=19303&d=1372553984

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=19302&d=1372553983

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=19301&d=1372553981

[bbjones121]

Is there an easy way to download all your album pictures at full res? I am trying to start my collection of photos for when I start my build. Thanks.

[Canadian818]

Please everyone, read the whole thread before asking questions that have already been answered.

The windshield thing has been done to death now. There's a pic of the Electromotive system on page two. And he's already said he's outside the box on wheel sizing and offsets and will have to do some tweaking.

The last thing we want is for Erik to get annoyed with this thread and not give us the daily updates he has. By the way Erik, thanks for making this forum interesting again, all the "what ifs" and hypothesizing were starting to get to me.

[Mechie3]

...not to mention that I even explained it previously...


Yep. Just trying to restate what you said since someone is going to hop to this page, read that, not read the previous page, and flip out again. lol.

I see what looks like a Perrin crank pulley on the side. Is this not compatible with the crank trigger sensor for your ECU?

[Erik W. Treves]

The trigger wheel needs something to screw into and there is no meat in the perrin pulley so I will be selling it...has nothing to do with the trigger sensor.

[metalmaker12]

Nice looking 818, coming together bro

[Mechie3]

The trigger wheel needs something to screw into and there is no meat in the perrin pulley so I will be selling it...has nothing to do with the trigger sensor.

That's what I meant. Thanks.

[wleehendrick]

Hi Eric, I just noticed you're in AL and a retired rotary wing pilot. I've made a few trip to Ft Rucker (I assume you spent time there) for integration of the AVCATT system (we did the visuals) ... ever 'flown' that?

[flynntuna]

I'd be curious to know which of the aluminum panels you will be attaching with rive-nuts vs rivets

[Wayne Presley]

I'd be curious to know which of the aluminum panels you will be attaching with rive-nuts vs rivets
98% riveted I'd say

[philly15]

i have a question, how much of the stuff for the fuel system do we need off the donor? especially all the crap back by the fuel tank?

[Wayne Presley]

i have a question, how much of the stuff for the fuel system do we need off the donor? especially all the crap back by the fuel tank?

Just the fuel pump and wire connector. If your state is going to require the charcoal canister and valves, you may have to grab them.

[philly15]

Just the fuel pump and wire connector. If your state is going to require the charcoal canister and valves, you may have to grab them.

excellent thanks for that. i just finished taking my donor apart all i had to do was remove the fuel tank and all the lines for a friend of mine, and wasnt sure how much of that crap we needed before i sold it to him.

[kach22i]

I believe it's from an mk3 mr2

Thanks.


Mr2

Thanks again.

[blueoval_bowtie_guy]

Thanks for the updates Erik! Really enjoy keeping up with your progress. Each time I come, I have to reread a bit so I can start up again where I left off so I don't miss anything.

[Erik W. Treves]

No problem...happy to help

[Mechie3]

I saw Erik posted and got excited for a huge posting of pictures. :(

This thread and Waynes are my two favorites (for obvious reasons).

[ATOLightning]

I saw Erik posted and got excited for a huge posting of pictures. :(

This thread and Waynes are my two favorites (for obvious reasons).

I'm with you. I'm not even building an 818, but I like looking at all of the progress pics. I expect to pull into work in a few days and see it sitting in the parking lot as fast as Erik is moving. I'm embarrased at the speed my MK4 build is moving after reading this thread.

[508wrx]

Awesome to see progress being made an 818.

One questions (maybe getting ahead of myself). Is there, in your opinion, enough room for an external wastegate set up in that frame? I ask as this may be an solution (to those who think its an issue) for the smaller diameter exhaust adapter that would disrupt the exhaust flow of the internal wastegate. Or we can take your approach because it looks like you made a bell mouth DP to work.

[Erik W. Treves]

Well the big parts are on the car so to look at not too much has changed... I was going to take some pics last night but I have to take the parts off the car I don't want you guys seeing yet.. :rolleyes:

[ehansen007]

Hey Big E. As for the wiring which fuse block and harness came with the car? Same old stuff or have they changed it up? Looking good man.

[Erik W. Treves]

Erik, the wiring harness did not come with the kit...I had my fill with the stock harness and since I am using a stand alone ECU...no need ....is it possible...absolutely...but "NOT IN MY HOUSE"....

my wife could sense the tension...

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=19372&d=1372727347

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=19371&d=1372727259

so go with what you know, right....

mounted it just now...

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=19368&d=1372726874

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=19367&d=1372726873

[metalmaker12]

I know your pain bro, I have had that look on my face to, it will work great, it's in good hands

[Frank818]

The wiring harness is what I hate most. lolll
No one sees the car progressing at that time, it's so small, but so mandatory too. lolll Unless you want to be Flintstones. lolll

[philly15]

what width are your rear tires? and are those federal 595 rs-r's??

[Zodiac]

so from what I can see so far is it safe for me to go ahead and toss out my old brackets? like the shield tat goes over the steering rack, transmissin, driveshaft and what not? I know I need the motor mounts and transmission mounts but not sure about the other shields/brackets :/

[rori]

The wheels are Enkei Raijins (18x8, 18x9.5).


18 x 8.5 +45 offset

Can you please clarify what the width is of your front wheels? I'm watching your build thread very closely as my front wheel choice only comes 7.5" or 8.5" and your fitment issues (or lack thereof) is going to help me decide which I choose. Thanks!

[Mechie3]

Erik has said he won't post more wheel info until he is done and knows there aren't issues or that there are issues that can't be resolved (ie, he needs to change something).

[Wayne Presley]

Can you please clarify what the width is of your front wheels? I'm watching your build thread very closely as my front wheel choice only comes 7.5" or 8.5" and your fitment issues (or lack thereof) is going to help me decide which I choose. Thanks!

I just looked at my invoice from Enkei and they are 18x8's on the front.

[Frank818]

I just looked at my invoice from Enkei and they are 18x8's on the front.

Uh, you didn't know what you were buying so that you had to look at your invoice?
I don't get that one. :)

[Wayne Presley]

Uh, you didn't know what you were buying so that you had to look at your invoice?
I don't get that one. :)

I'm an Enkei dealer, Erik bought his Raijins from me, rori asked what size so I looked at my invoice to provide a correct answer. What's not to get?

[C.Plavan]

Frank just likes piping in on every thread. He has been a member since 6/21/13 and has over 200 posts..... :confused:

For you math majors that's 13.5 posts a day! :eek:

[metalmaker12]

Frank, don't make us flame you

[David Hodgkins]

Frank just likes piping in on every thread. He has been a member since 6/21/13 and has over 200 posts..... :confused:

For you math majors that's 13.5 posts a day! :eek:

That's awesome.

He's the kinda guy who will probably finish his build a month after he gets it too...

:)