Open Design Discussion and What's NEXT!

[ScottyB]

Here is a "Sneak Peek" of Vantage side view.

that is very beautiful so far. i'm seeing some Audi R8 in the tail, but that's not a bad thing! looking forward to the front and a 3/4 view if you'd like to show us at some point

[Ernesto Freitas]

Hi.

Here are my 2 cents... :)

http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/7113/35051915.th.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/34/35051915.jpg/)

Hope you like it.

Regards from Portugal,
Ernesto Freitas

[Vman7]

I'd drive that. Thanks for the targa. Can't wait to see the front end. :)

Targa is just one version, I also have a spyder version as well.


that is very beautiful so far. i'm seeing some Audi R8 in the tail, but that's not a bad thing! looking forward to the front and a 3/4 view if you'd like to show us at some point

Thanks :). From the side the rear looks a lot like an R8, but it was modified a lot to fit taillights that I am using and the curve of the bottom of the fender, plus the rear view is a lot different, but still reminds you of a R8.

I doubt if I will get to a 3/4 view, heck I doubt if I will even get the top view done totally. I am doing everything in Photoshop CS3.

David

[mske390]

Olpro very cool concept and this looks like something that could be made for under $15K

[Goran]

Started a little late, but I guess I can catch the deadline. What do You guys think of my project?
http://i54.tinypic.com/almcsg.jpg
http://i54.tinypic.com/ztj6s5.jpg
http://i51.tinypic.com/2a7zuwg.jpg

[ScottyB]

diggin it Olpro. looks like it has great sightlines and the gullwing idea is very clever as well as the body construction.

Vman, i can respect the amount of work it's probably taking to do that in Pshop. creating accurate reflections and shadows by hand has got to be painstaking.

[PhyrraM]

An observation while reading the last few posts of this thread.

Vman's looks like a very large car, likely because it follows the 'sitting above the tank' template provided by FFR.

OldPro's looks like the proper small car I'm hoping FFR provides. Of course, this is possible because the tank was moved to the front (and made a non-Subaru part) and the driver position lowered as a result.


After reading tons of threads and posts, and looking at ALL the posted submissions - One thing for me is certain.....FFR really needs to keep the tank out from under the seats or it will likely struggle with the proportions of the car. Almost every design that attempts to conform to the provided template either ends up larger than needed (because of the attempt at stylistic proportion), or ends up disproportionate (as evidenced by the followup commentary).

Not saying it can't be done either way, just seems like the tank under the seats is going to be a challenge and that might be one area that demands more consideration for compromise.

[Vman7]

An observation while reading the last few posts of this thread.

Vman's looks like a very large car, likely because it follows the 'sitting above the tank' template provided by FFR.

Actually my design is not as big as you think.
Here is a comparison between my design, Mazda Miata, Porsche Boxster & 911 Carrera (2011 models)

Vantage Spec.s

Length Overall: 161.5"

Width: 72" (without mirrors) / Front Fender- 70"/ Rear Fender- 72"

Height (Coupe Version): 46.75"

Ground Clearance: 4.5"

Wheelbase: 95"

Track: Front- 58.5" / Rear- 58.3"

Tires: 225/40-18

Tires Opt. Front 235/40-18 / Rear 255/35-18, 265/35-18, 275/35-18

Wheels: 18"

Note: Wheel Wells were designed around Tires: Front 225/40-18 / Rear 255/35-18

Mazda Miata Spec.s

Length: 158.3"

Width: 67.7" (without mirrors)

Height: 49"

Wheelbase: 91.7"

Track: Front 58.7" / Rear 58.9"

Porsche Boxster Spec.s

Length: 172.1"

Width: 70.9" (without mirrors)

Height: 50.9"

Wheelbase: 95.1"

Porsche 911 Carrera Spec.s

Length: 175.63"

Width: 71.18" (including mirrors)

Height: 51.57"

Wheelbase: 92.52"

[2KWIK4U]

I think that the tank shouldn't be put up front though. Back when Lambo started they moved the tank to the front with terrible handeling changes happening when the tank started to empty, making the front end too light. The change between full and empty is pretty dramatic being in front instead of in the mid position.

JMO

[2KWIK4U]

Hi.

Here are my 2 cents... :)

http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/7113/35051915.th.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/34/35051915.jpg/)

Hope you like it.

Regards from Portugal,
Ernesto Freitas

Wow, I really like that! Nice work.

[riptide motorsport]

Danny may have a point.........but space is at a premium so up front may be the only choice.

[daly_c]

here’s a quick sketch to show a step-over-side design that could have an optional gull wing door-roof added rather easily.
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a53/allanflowers/img112copy.jpg

perfect!

[daly_c]

here’s a quick sketch to show a step-over-side design that could have an optional gull wing door-roof added rather easily.
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a53/allanflowers/img112copy.jpg

perfect!

[PhyrraM]

Actually my design is not as big as you think........

I was just refering to it's look. Possibly in comparision to the driver outlines, which may not be on the same scale.

[Vman7]

I was just refering to it's look. Possibly in comparision to the driver outlines, which may not be on the same scale.

It's an illusion....lol, the driver template is to scale with the body, both are 1/12th scale.

I am not sure but I don't think the gas tank is under the seat, at least not by scaling out a real seat & bracket. I just went with the template that FFR provided and scaled. So I am not sure if they really are intending to put the gas tank under the seat or not.

[KWXtreme]

I had a lil time to play .... tell me what you think.
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5147/5752976694_d56a5e4e76_z.jpg

[Senger]

Here are a few more thoughts on a possible build. The main body shell is done in one big piece, Meyers Manx style. It includes the rad shroud, front tank mounting pan (alternate to Subie under-seat location), cowl with wiper mounting bosses, windshield mounting flanges, and targa roof area. It also picks up flanges for the hood and engine cover – which are trimmed to upstanding flanges for rubber seals.
This main shell incorporates the roof and engine cover INNERS, which are trimmed off and bonded to the separate outers. Hood and engine cover are fiberglass panels (and provided with base kit) but roof skin option (gullwing type) is probably vacformed polycarbonate, selectively painted.
This kind of roof-door is very light, rather flimsy but could have cam locks at front and rear lower corners to pull it into place. Longitudinal steel tubes at centerline are necessary to stabilize windshield and pick up simple gullwing hinges.
Backlite could be flat tempered glass and hinge from bottom to lay over engine cover. This might obstruct air intakes in engine cover but maybe not since best high pressure area is probably at the rear just in front of the spoiler.
“Roof-down” storage of gullwing panels onboard is problem unless maybe they hinge at the dripline to be more compact.
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a53/allanflowers/img120copy.jpg

Really shows your scope in dealing with the practical concerns, without sacrificing good style and proportions. Even taking into consideration the high pressure area would free up the initial assumption of a required snorkel or scoop, which could potentially mar a design if not integrated correctly. Well done, Allan! I'd love to see you take it further if you intend to.

[JRL]

Olpro clever solutions to a significant hurdle.

How about a hinged targa type configuration think that would work? Hinged at the front (removable for open motoring)to avoid accidental tear-off if left unlatched. Fixed hinge in the front snap / clasp release in the rear.

[Oppenheimer]

I had a lil time to play .... tell me what you think.
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5147/5752976694_d56a5e4e76_z.jpg

OK, so first impression, Speed Racers Cadillac. Some lines to like, but too busy overall. Try toning it down a bit. Also, the proportions seem like they are front engined (long hood, etc). Its certainly better than anything I could ever come up with.

[JHDESIGN]

Still not completely finished, Still have to get some seats in there to see the scale a little better, but i figured I would post a few pictures of what I have so far. Let me know what everyone thinks : ) . thanks

[riptide motorsport]

nice and clean and crisp......I like it. and it should fit the manufacturing goals.

[JRL]

Hard to beat a clean white car with crisp lines - nice job Henry - I like it a lot.

[289FIA_Cobra]

I'm kinda partial to this design which never made production at Ford:

http://www.peyeimages.com/cars/images/ford-gt90/ford-gt90-picture-41769.jpg

http://www.peyeimages.com/cars/images/ford-gt90/ford-gt90-picture-2948.jpg

[bromikl]

Still not completely finished, Still have to get some seats in there to see the scale a little better, but i figured I would post a few pictures of what I have so far. Let me know what everyone thinks : ) . thanks


I hate to be so critical, but this design looks like something GM would put out. Bold and stocky, with none of the flair or finesse one would see from a sports car. Muscle car? Yes. You nailed it.

IMO the tail looks too small to fit the engine/transmission. There is no hood vent nor side intake. Sorry, JHDESIGN, this one needs work.

[Gun Bunny]

Hi.

Here are my 2 cents... :)

http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/7113/35051915.th.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/34/35051915.jpg/)



Hope you like it.

Regards from Portugal,
Ernesto Freitas

That has a lot of potential, Ernesto. You have any pictures from other angles?

[xabier]

I have just sent my final entry, wich was the design posted here a long ago but some other views in order to fit it to the templates. In the next days I will upload them here, good luck to all of you taking part on the contest!

(this was the first image I posted on the forum and the one I have developed)

http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/l619/xabier-albizu/factoryfive-render-rojo.jpg

[Ernesto Freitas]

That has a lot of potential, Ernesto. You have any pictures from other angles?

Hi.

No. Not at the moment, I'm sorry. I've made that in a couple hours, between some other works.

BTW: Can anyone let me know, the rules of the contest, dead line, etc? I would be happy to share my ideas.

Regards,

[Senger]

I'm really starting to dig Senger's too. It's unique, fun, visually lightweight. It looks like a snap to keep cheap. I'm even not minding the huge rollover humps as much as 2 days ago.

Nice work. Can we see a version without cheated wheels (AKA stockish sized) and maybe with a more sinister grey/black color scheme (that may take away the 'cute' factor for those that have an aversion to it)?

PhyrraM- not to beat this one to death, but here is a black version as you requested. The wheels have also been downsized to 18 x 8.5", and the windshield was raised, but there is still a bit of obstructed visibility. Thanks for your feedback. Just had some fun with this one:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2746/5755730699_84a5d6e1e6_z.jpg
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5184/5756274594_a55fc2b865_z.jpg

[Gun Bunny]

Hi.

No. Not at the moment, I'm sorry. I've made that in a couple hours, between some other works.

BTW: Can anyone let me know, the rules of the contest, dead line, etc? I would be happy to share my ideas.

Regards,

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showthread.php?815-Complete-Details-of-FFR-GRM-Design-Competition

[Benji]

I have just sent my final entry, wich was the design posted here a long ago but some other views in order to fit it to the templates. In the next days I will upload them here, good luck to all of you taking part on the contest!

(this was the first image I posted on the forum and the one I have developed)

http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/l619/xabier-albizu/factoryfive-render-rojo.jpg


Still by far one of my two favourite designs. It's simple, should generally please most people, doesn't really look like anything else and actually goes a step towards utilising Impreza parts and whilst most attempts to use another car's headlights generally ends in tears, I don't think this does.

Sure some have argued you'd need the 2007(?)+ donor but I really don't think it would be that much hassle.

This still gets my vote personally with Rotr8's(?) car being my other favourite.

[xabier]

Still by far one of my two favourite designs. It's simple, should generally please most people, doesn't really look like anything else and actually goes a step towards utilising Impreza parts and whilst most attempts to use another car's headlights generally ends in tears, I don't think this does.

Sure some have argued you'd need the 2007(?)+ donor but I really don't think it would be that much hassle.

This still gets my vote personally with Rotr8's(?) car being my other favourite.


Thank you very much, I really appreciate your comment! Stay tuned to see the other views of it! ;)

[JRL]

Xabier I agree with Benji superb effort.

I would hate to be a judge - far too many quality submissions to pick just one.

[riptide motorsport]

From Bromkl

"I hate to be so critical, but this design looks like something GM would put out. Bold and stocky, with none of the flair or finesse one would see from a sports car. Muscle car? Yes. You nailed it.

IMO the tail looks too small to fit the engine/transmission. There is no hood vent nor side intake. Sorry, JHDESIGN, this one needs work."

I whole heartedly dissagree, Which just goes to show theres no accounting for taste..................Steven

[D2W]

PhyrraM- not to beat this one to death, but here is a black version as you requested. The wheels have also been downsized to 18 x 8.5", and the windshield was raised, but there is still a bit of obstructed visibility. Thanks for your feedback. Just had some fun with this one:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2746/5755730699_84a5d6e1e6_z.jpg
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5184/5756274594_a55fc2b865_z.jpg

Senger, I have to admit when I first saw this it did not do much for me, but I'm really starting to like it. Its design is simple yet totally unique. I especially like this version and the previous "CR" version with the extra flares. I could see myself driving it. It may not have a "universal" enough appeal to win, but I say Kudos for breaking the mold and coming up with something unique.

[thebeerbaron]

I know I'm biased, but as a track junkie its really important to me that the 818 can participate in trackdays. Neither of the two major US organizing bodies accept twin-hoop roll bars for open cars. I hope that the winning design accommodates this, but judging by the entries I've seen, I may be out of luck.

[Ks2]

xabier i absolutely love this design, any other views?

also any chance of a rendering with a T-top or just plain hard-top?

[Steve91T]

I have just sent my final entry, wich was the design posted here a long ago but some other views in order to fit it to the templates. In the next days I will upload them here, good luck to all of you taking part on the contest!

(this was the first image I posted on the forum and the one I have developed)

http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/l619/xabier-albizu/factoryfive-render-rojo.jpg

Wow! Absolutely beautiful!

[Horhay]

Sure some have argued you'd need the 2007(?)+ donor but I really don't think it would be that much hassle.

Any 2006 or 2007 Impreza headlights will work. The STi ones would be an upgrade but not necessary.

That design is and has been one of my favorites for some time now. Job well done xabier!

[xabier]

yes, I have some other views of it and one of the has a removable hard top on it, I thought it was the easyest way to make it posible to put a top, specially because it is a targa style car. this week I will upload them all. Thank you very much guys!

[pecet]

Did you recived any reply when you sent mail to contest@grassrootsmotorsports.com ?
My entry, I' ve just sent:
http://pecet3d.8p.pl/prace3d/m_MarekRybacki.jpg

[Silvertop]

Xabier --There have been a number of designs that have been submitted to the contest that I would be happy to build, but yours sits at the very top my personal list. If FFR decides to produce it, there WILL be one in my garage.

[Benji]

yes, I have some other views of it and one of the has a removable hard top on it, I thought it was the easyest way to make it posible to put a top, specially because it is a targa style car. this week I will upload them all. Thank you very much guys!

You are going to be killing me with the wait. I have all your other images you have uploaded in the past saved, including your original sketches!

[xabier]

Thanks for yout enthusiasm Silvertop, ;) Im really glad you like that much!

Benji, be patient ;)
I will upload them today, I also want to upload them and see what you think of it.
Thanks guys!

[Dave Smith]

I've been catching up on this thread! WOW!!! There is about a week left before the deadline and I am so excited about the entries recvd to date. I am dying to spill the beans on some recent developments on the car, BUT will wait til open house. Maybe leak a few before then here and on GRM site since you guys have so central to the process. Keep in mind, I am NOT one of the judges, so I am talking about car config and chassis stuff rather than body design. Keep up the great work.

[mn_vette]

I am dying to spill the beans on some recent developments on the car, BUT will wait til open house. Maybe leak a few before then here and on GRM site since you guys have so central to the process. Keep in mind, I am NOT one of the judges, so I am talking about car config and chassis stuff rather than body design. Keep up the great work.

Dave, you can tell us. We we are really good at keeping secrets....

[Dave Smith]

Yeah, but if i crow too much the guys here will rush the stairway with heavy car parts in hand and i'll have to jump out the window, start my big block and make an escape,,, unfortunately Jim will grab the keys to the GTM and run me down, smiling sickly as he pulls alongside me at 140 mph and does the mad max chain to the window move... As I careen out of control (not an unfamailiar place for me to be)... nevermind. Yeah, I'll tip our hand on a few things about the car (drivetrain, chassis rigidity, design flexibility, use, expanded goals, etc) before open house, but I dont want to interfere with the purity of the design contest so it'll be a bit.

[readymix]

Ok, that's not fair at all, Dave.

[Goran]

Exterior finished. What do You guys think of this?
http://i54.tinypic.com/dnew3n.jpg
http://i52.tinypic.com/f56otx.jpg
http://i56.tinypic.com/ae412u.jpg

[BrandonDrums]

I have just sent my final entry, wich was the design posted here a long ago but some other views in order to fit it to the templates. In the next days I will upload them here, good luck to all of you taking part on the contest!

(this was the first image I posted on the forum and the one I have developed)

http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/l619/xabier-albizu/factoryfive-render-rojo.jpg

Just for kicks, would you be able to submit a variant that uses the 04-05 headlights as well? If you could also make the 02-03 bugeye lights look good that might be a plus. I only suggest that as the 04-05 blobeye lights aren't terrible either and might provide some more flexibility with your platform to accept more donor parts.

Just a thought, no big deal if not.

[Thanas_4]

Hello everyone, it's been a while since we posted something here. We are almost ready to send our final submitions and I have started 2 other projects. Overally I will send 3 concepts and Konstantinos will send 1. Here is my second concept:

http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/9886/side3e.jpg
By team_kt (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/team_kt) at 2011-05-25

http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/3904/front3l.jpg
By team_kt (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/team_kt) at 2011-05-25

http://img863.imageshack.us/img863/968/back3.jpg
By team_kt (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/team_kt) at 2011-05-25

[Steve91T]

Hello everyone, it's been a while since we posted something here. We are almost ready to send our final submitions and I have started 2 other projects. Overally I will send 3 concepts and Konstantinos will send 1. Here is my second concept:

http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/9886/side3e.jpg
By team_kt (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/team_kt) at 2011-05-25

http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/3904/front3l.jpg
By team_kt (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/team_kt) at 2011-05-25

http://img863.imageshack.us/img863/968/back3.jpg
By team_kt (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/team_kt) at 2011-05-25

I really love the front and sides of your car, but there's something about the rear that I don't like. I'm not even sure what it is. Too boring maybe? Not aggressive enough?

[Thanas_4]

Thanks for the helpfull comments, maybe I will find time to revise it and send it untill the weekend. Here is my third and last concept. Personally, I like it more than the previous one:

http://img844.imageshack.us/img844/3871/side2du.jpg
By team_kt (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/team_kt) at 2011-05-25

http://img840.imageshack.us/img840/9268/front2cg.jpg
By team_kt (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/team_kt) at 2011-05-25

http://img847.imageshack.us/img847/351/back2t.jpg
By team_kt (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/team_kt) at 2011-05-25

[xabier]

Hi all again, I´ve just arrived home so I will upload my final entry, Hope you like it guys!
Many of you may be wondering wether it respect the templates provided, and I have to say it does, I did it over the templates and it fits perfectly, except the front perspective which has too big wheels, but for the rest is ok.

As you can see I also did a view with the removable top on, wich, being a targa model is easy to use and does not need any mechanism.

If you want to see it in any special color tell me, I have tried lots of them!

http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/l619/xabier-albizu/factoryfive-render-rojo.jpg

http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/l619/xabier-albizu/Sideview-color.jpg

http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/l619/xabier-albizu/Sideview-rojotecho.jpg

http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/l619/xabier-albizu/rear-rojo.jpg

http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/l619/xabier-albizu/Sideview-verdetecho.jpg

http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/l619/xabier-albizu/rear-azul.jpg

[JRL]

Well done Xabier well done indeed..................

[xabier]

There is one more thing I wanted to say, but I forgot, the windscreen and rearview mirrors are from a Mazda Miata (mx5 in europe), I used them becaues it fitted really well and because the mazda is the best selling spyder car in the world so there are lots of them! anyway, there could be a lot more pieces that could work the same.
thanks !

[ScottyB]

nicely done Xabier, looks great from every angle. i know i speak for alot of people when i say i'd want to drive that. you really put some time into it, and it shows.

Goran - sharp indeed. something about what you did with the fenders makes it feel very compact visually, which is definitely a plus. Very dramatic butresses behind the roll hoops, nice.

Thanas - you've got a great shape going, it's a little "heavy" looking though if that makes any sense. go with what you like though, all of your drafts have been cool so far.

[Someday I Suppose]

[QUOTE=Dave Smith;20461] expanded goals [QUOTE]

I read that and could have sworn I heard a small child cry, and then realized it was just Jim weeping.

[xabier]

Thank you very much scott!! yes, I spent quite a lot of time, and apart from the renders, tons of sketches looking for the right thing... Good luck on the competition, your design looks really great, kind of different to what we have seen on the other entries.

[Steve91T]

xabier, I love it. You really did a great job with it.

I have a question for you. Out of curiosity, what would it look like if the buttress were flush against the roof line? I'm not sure if it would look better, or make it look too heavy in the rear.

[Silvertop]

If you want to see it in any special color tell me, I have tried lots of them!

Xabier -- If it's not too much trouble, could you show me one in WHITE?

[xabier]

Of course, here it is!

http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/l619/xabier-albizu/rear-blanco.jpg

http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/l619/xabier-albizu/Sideview-blanco.jpg

http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/l619/xabier-albizu/factoryfive-render-low-ride.jpg

[Silvertop]

Yup, that's the one for me, Xabier. -- TX

[riptide motorsport]

Sweet!

[daly_c]

Slightly different approach, may not appeal to everyone

http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/k550/NXXN/818ssss-1.jpg

[Benji]

Slightly different approach, may not appeal to everyone

http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/k550/NXXN/818ssss.jpg

I lol'd.

If you can make it 1800lbs....

Also if you can make it cost a total of $15000..... oh no wait.

[Rotr8]

nice work Xabier, I have a crit about the arrangment of your lights in the rear trim though. I feel that a better solution(see below) would result from having the cut of the lights oriented towards the top, and inward(if that makes sense) of course you would have to change the slope to a negative degree with the outer most portion located right below the lip spoiler and then cut back into the body, then back out for the bumper.
http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/4/unled1jkx.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/828/unled1jkx.jpg/)

[JHDESIGN]

heres a few more images of what I have so far.. a little more progress was done.. got a few things left to get done on the model i think. figured id post a little update.. let me know what you guys think.. thanks a lot : )

[riptide motorsport]

Love it, especially the tail end.

[Oppenheimer]

xabier, I love it. You really did a great job with it.

I have a question for you. Out of curiosity, what would it look like if the buttress were flush against the roof line? I'm not sure if it would look better, or make it look too heavy in the rear.

I thought the same thing, but the more I look at it the way it is, the more I like it.

This is even better than the earlier renderings. This is once again my favorite. Its just, wow.

[JHDESIGN]

Update!! getting close to being done. may model a few more things, but i figured id post an update with more angles than before with the most up to date model.. let me know what you guys think.. thanks : )
http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/9941/74084045.jpg
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/2827/71223202.jpg

[xabier]

I understand Rotr8, the big light could go in the center and the little in the edge, it also looks good that way, but about the cut orientation I think it fits better the way I did it because of the inclination that part has, as it is seen on the side view, or maybe I understood you wrong... thanks for your opinion!

Steve91T: I think the car would lose its spyder essence, and as you said it would look too "heavy" and big, I tried it in some sketches but I finally chose that one.

[Olimk2]

Xabier welldone, but i don't understand why your HELLA rearlights are not round, just a small detail...potential winner for me...

[Olimk2]

Message for Ernesto Freitas, you're the sport car maker from Portugal? If yes, i love your cars, most of all the "dino" concept! Too bad you're coming late here...

[daly_c]

New Sketch in a similar vein to the last but using 07- glass and lights
http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/k550/NXXN/818xx.jpg

[2KWIK4U]

Update!! getting close to being done. may model a few more things, but i figured id post an update with more angles than before with the most up to date model.. let me know what you guys think.. thanks : )
http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/9941/74084045.jpg
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/2827/71223202.jpg

Very nice design, I will still be holding out for some kind of targa top compatible design though. All in all still destine to be a potential winner.

[Rotr8]

I understand olpro, the big light could go in the center and the little in the edge, it also looks good that way, but about the cut orientation I think it fits better the way I did it because of the inclination that part has, as it is seen on the side view, or maybe I understood you wrong... thanks for your opinion!

Steve91T: I think the car would lose its spyder essence, and as you said it would look too "heavy" and big, I tried it in some sketches but I finally chose that one.

Im Rotr8, but cool, yup I do aggree with you, the undercut was just an alternate design decision. Good luck with your design

[xabier]

oh, excuse me, I wasn´t looking who wrote the comment and I don´t know why I put that... Thanks, lets see how the competition ends.
Greetings!

[Metalium]

Hi everybody,
My design attached. Congrats all for really good designs and good luck.
M.Ali

[JHDESIGN]

Very nice design, I will still be holding out for some kind of targa top compatible design though. All in all still destine to be a potential winner.

Indeed.. I am still not completely finished with the model. I am definitly trying to work on some kind of hard top. I just havnt decided it I will model it or just show it on my final sketch renderings. But it is in the works for sure. Thanks for the feedback though. It's greatly appreciated. Also I have a ton of images and need to narrow it down to only a few for my board. So if you or anyone else who reads this, it would be awsome to hear which angles/images are your favorites, ones that describe the form best to you. Also any opinions on color combos would be awsome. Thanks a bunch

[Oppenheimer]

Hi everybody,
My design attached. Congrats all for really good designs and good luck.
M.Ali

That reminds me a lot of the Lotus Elise, the front & rear views and the 3/4 angles , the profile not so much. Some of the details I don't like on the Elise, I think yours does a better job with. In my mind the Elise was always an obvious compare to this project, so such a look makes sense (on the other hand, many have mentioned they would prefer the 818 not to make people think of some other car).

I don't have any constructive criticism to offer, it looks pretty good as is, I think its just a question if an 'Elise cousin' is the right look for this project. I can see arguments both ways on that. But if this was the chosen body, I would definitly buy & build it, and be proud driving it.

Congratulations.

[bromikl]

Hi everybody,
My design attached. Congrats all for really good designs and good luck.
M.Ali

I love the design, too. One way I think the Elise does a better job is the front. Long overhang = damaged bodywork.

Same as Oppenheimer: "I would definitly buy & build it, and be proud driving it."

[keys2heaven]

Xabier: I hope you place somewhere in the final judging. I would LOVE to see your design incorporated in the final product!

It is fantastic. Like a Miata on steroids.

[2KWIK4U]

I think the reason I like some of the designs is the simplicity of them. You know, the "less is more theory", like Xabier and JHDESIGN among others. Smooth flowing lines with not a lot of bends, just enough to make it stunning.

I can't wait for the announcement of the winner to see if I will build one now that my FFR roadster is gone.

[Metalium]

In car design, sometimes similar scales and concepts brings similar solutions, as you point out. Elise is one of my favs in this scale sports cars, too. In fact, 818's height and driver's position is not ideal, in my opinion. I like wide and very low, sleek sports cars, but 818's given specs doesn't allow it. Anyway, have to use this specs and i choose one of my best sketches around it...If i have enough time, maybe i'll bring up another one.
Thanks your comments again..
M.Ali

[Gary in NJ]

JHDESIGN

I love the clean lines. Very refreshing. That is a car that any OEM would be proud to build.

[JHDESIGN]

JHDESIGN

I love the clean lines. Very refreshing. That is a car that any OEM would be proud to build.

http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/9941/74084045.jpg
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/2827/71223202.jpg

Thank you very much. That is exactly what I intended to do. I liked the idea for clean, crisp, refined lines throughout the car, but with a nice compliment of some soft edges that fade out like the shoulder line. Also, only being a 95in wheelbase car. I wanted to make it visually appear longer and wider than just 95 inches to enhance the overall proportions. Which is why for the most part all the the lines carry though the entire length and width of the vehicle. even though the should line arcs down in the front and fades out into the front wheel flare, i implied the line on the front bumper which you would be able to see if i had a profile view. (i will get one to post). as well as wrapping the lines all the way around the back end. I wanted it to be more continuous to make the overall design more cohesive appear longer than they are. simple, cohesive, elegant, sophisticated, and confidence are some of the words I thought of when designing the car for the overall feel. For a small car, i didn't want to just put a bunch of lines all over the place to break up the surfaces more and make a small car look even smaller.. I think it can be successful either way, but for me i decided to do a more simple approach.. i am really happy you like it though. thanks

[05xtsy]

Well, I have been working on this one for a while, was holding back on posting it. Still have to make some additions for the final (like mirrors on this ISO view). Front, rear and side views will be posted on the first. Until then here it is.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v217/05xtsy/FinalIsoSubmission.jpg

[riptide motorsport]

I like it....like a 2012 Dino.

[05xtsy]

I like it....like a 2012 Dino.

:) works well with bugeyes too, not just the 06 lights (I put my own custom touch on them if you don't recognize them.

[Franze]

here is my latest design,
hope you like ithttp://farm3.static.flickr.com/2575/5763452379_498c3b47b9_b.jpg

[unclebigbad]

New Sketch in a similar vein to the last but using 07- glass and lights
http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/k550/NXXN/818xx.jpg

I think this is very cool, It gotta grow on ya though, the more I look at it the more I like it.

[ilario]

Hi everyone, I am new to this forum. Here is my design entry.
Comments and feedback welcome.
http://www.ilario.com.au/design/automotive/ilario_FFR_Design_Contest_02_Front%203%274%20View. jpg

http://www.ilario.com.au/design/automotive/20110525_Render_07_Side_Persp_Web.jpg

http://www.ilario.com.au/design/automotive/20110525_Render_08_Rear%203%274_Persp_Web.jpg

[Senger]

@Xabier- a very clean entry with nice proportions. The Lotus is strong in the rear, but there are enough unique cues throughout the rest of the vehicle to make it unique. Again, smart use of existing headlights.

@Franze- Go for it! A very nice evolution with bold surface volumes.

@JHDESIGN- A very clean design, and the wheels are nicely done, but I would like to see more plan view curvature in the sides to avoid the slab-sided appearance. The windshield could also use some additional crown on the top edge. But overall, it's pretty solid.

This is my most avant-garde entry, and with the benefit of more time, could benefit from a few tweaks (design wise and buildability-wise) But the effort was too much to waste, so it was submitted regardless.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2136/5764279157_5c65ab5931_z.jpg
High Res Image (http://www.flickr.com/photos/marcsenger/5764279157/sizes/o/in/photostream/)

[StatGSR]

I think this is very cool, It gotta grow on ya though, the more I look at it the more I like it.

I agree, basically if you were ever a fan of the BMW M Coupes, you can see the beauty in that drawing. I always thought the BMW "Clown Shoe" was a sweet car.

[Silvertop]

Indeed.. I am still not completely finished with the model. I am definitly trying to work on some kind of hard top. ............. Also any opinions on color combos would be awsome. Thanks a bunch

I love the simplicity of your design, and the car has a nice, clean look to it. My personal preference (like 2kwik4u above) is also for one of the targa type designs , but if FFR doesn't provide that choice to us, I would definitely build this roadster, assuming it could be made available with some sort of top, and with doors. Personally, I think this design would be better served with an optional ragtop rather than a hardtop because the hardtop probably wouldn't be stowable on board. As for color -- it already looks great in white!

Nice job.

[Franze]

Thanks Senger!
It means a lot coming from an accomplished designer, I'll will be handing the rest of this design in tommorow

[thebeerbaron]

This is my most avant-garde entry, and with the benefit of more time, could benefit from a few tweaks (design wise and buildability-wise) But the effort was too much to waste, so it was submitted regardless.

A great evolution of your earlier concept. This to me screams 818: visually lightweight, minimalist, high-impact, and just good looking. I can see some things I'm guessing you'd want to tweak, but your submission certainly shows some great intent.

[bauhaus]

Well, I have been working on this one for a while, was holding back on posting it. Still have to make some additions for the final (like mirrors on this ISO view). Front, rear and side views will be posted on the first. Until then here it is.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v217/05xtsy/FinalIsoSubmission.jpg

Amazing work - this is my favorite so far.
Great job - everything about it looks fantastic.

[Vman7]

opps!

[VTX]

Exterior finished. What do You guys think of this?
http://i54.tinypic.com/dnew3n.jpg
http://i52.tinypic.com/f56otx.jpg
http://i56.tinypic.com/ae412u.jpg

Goran, I love your design! It looks great! Definitely one of the top 5 IMO.

BTW, would love to see it with a front splitter or something and in black.

[bbjones121]

Of course, here it is!

http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/l619/xabier-albizu/rear-blanco.jpg

http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/l619/xabier-albizu/Sideview-blanco.jpg

http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/l619/xabier-albizu/factoryfive-render-low-ride.jpg

That looks nice... but my wife took one look at the front and said it reminds her of a Hyundai Tiburon :( I know it is a great thing to reuse the headlights, but what about a front end with custom headlights?

[R8TC]

http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/9941/74084045.jpg
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/2827/71223202.jpg

Thank you very much. That is exactly what I intended to do. I liked the idea for clean, crisp, refined lines throughout the car, but with a nice compliment of some soft edges that fade out like the shoulder line. Also, only being a 95in wheelbase car. I wanted to make it visually appear longer and wider than just 95 inches to enhance the overall proportions. Which is why for the most part all the the lines carry though the entire length and width of the vehicle. even though the should line arcs down in the front and fades out into the front wheel flare, i implied the line on the front bumper which you would be able to see if i had a profile view. (i will get one to post). as well as wrapping the lines all the way around the back end. I wanted it to be more continuous to make the overall design more cohesive appear longer than they are. simple, cohesive, elegant, sophisticated, and confidence are some of the words I thought of when designing the car for the overall feel. For a small car, i didn't want to just put a bunch of lines all over the place to break up the surfaces more and make a small car look even smaller.. I think it can be successful either way, but for me i decided to do a more simple approach.. i am really happy you like it though. thanks

this reminds me of the VW bluesport concept? is this the look you were aiming for? cool

[R8TC]

here is my latest design,
hope you like ithttp://farm3.static.flickr.com/2575/5763452379_498c3b47b9_b.jpg

How did this beauty slip under the radar?

AWESOME!!!

[R8TC]

nice effort!

[xabier]

I understand, but anyway, this is just what I did but it could use lots of different headlights, I an sure there are many that would fit.
Thanks a lot for your comment!

[JHDESIGN]

I love the simplicity of your design, and the car has a nice, clean look to it. My personal preference (like 2kwik4u above) is also for one of the targa type designs , but if FFR doesn't provide that choice to us, I would definitely build this roadster, assuming it could be made available with some sort of top, and with doors. Personally, I think this design would be better served with an optional ragtop rather than a hardtop because the hardtop probably wouldn't be stowable on board. As for color -- it already looks great in white!

Nice job.

Added a hard top option. Let me know what you think

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/807/rearm.jpg/

[Thanas_4]

Hello people, we are almost ready to send our submitions. Here is our first one (Konstantinos' sketches)

http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/8997/frontviewoo.jpg
By team_kt (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/team_kt) at 2011-05-28

http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/6474/rearviewu.jpg
By team_kt (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/team_kt) at 2011-05-28

http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/8978/sideviewqx.jpg
By team_kt (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/team_kt) at 2011-05-28

[readymix]

Looks great Thanas!

[BrandonDrums]

I can't believe how many awesome designs there are now. This thing is gonna rock.

[Gun Bunny]

That looks nice... but my wife took one look at the front and said it reminds her of a Hyundai Tiburon :( I know it is a great thing to reuse the headlights, but what about a front end with custom headlights?

That's what it was that was throwing me off. However, now that I see that car from other angles, I am liking it more and more. Ready made design for a targa top, and a slide-in window between the humps, both of which would likely be able to be stored on board, awesome.

[speedboy]

Contest coming to an end and seeing all these cool final designs inspired me to post this one on GRM forum, and wanted to post it here too. My final two entries together.

http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/5804/ffr0491.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/402/ffr0491.png/)

Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://imageshack.us)

[thebeerbaron]

Well, since everyone is posting their designs, here's mine. It's an actual clay model because I can't draw and ceramics happens to be one of my hobbies. Too bad this clay has very little to do with my usual pottery clay...

If you haven't been following my design blog, go ahead and give it a shot (link is in my signature). More pictures and details are in this blog post (http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/entry.php?140-A-long-overdue-update).

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2146&d=1306641372

[Thanas_4]

so I sent the previous 3 images together with this one that shows the concept development (just a small selection of front sketches that Konstantinos made):

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/6779/ffrdesigncontestisometr.jpg
By team_kt (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/team_kt) at 2011-05-29

I believe that its going to be really difficult to choose a winner. We can see that a lot of people have done great job with their concepts. We shouldn't also forget the fact that a lot of beautiful entries may have not been posted in the forums. I believe that Factory Five should make a slideshow or a gallery with a top50 maybe of the submitions.

[FFRWRX]

Well, since everyone is posting their designs, here's mine. It's an actual clay model because I can't draw and ceramics happens to be one of my hobbies. Too bad this clay has very little to do with my usual pottery clay...


Maybe it's just the angle of the pictures, but that huge air-dam behind the seats looks a little....hmm....draggy?

[ScottKoschwitz]

Wow, I am really impressed with the talent behind these designs! The judges will have a very difficult decision to make. On the other hand, this is great news for potential customers, because it shows just how good this car may be.

As for me my favorite designs are Xabier's and Thanas_4's. I really like R8TC's and Franze's, and so many more.

[keys2heaven]

Say it with me:

Xabier...Xabier...Xabier

There really are soooo many great designs.

[thebeerbaron]

Maybe it's just the angle of the pictures, but that huge air-dam behind the seats looks a little....hmm....draggy?

That was a concern, but realistically it's not all that wide, and could be narrower if necessary. Looking at the scoop on my donor this morning, the forward-facing opening is not all that large in terms of square inches. I bet I could halve the width of that intake if I had thought of it (and if the clay would have supported it). Also, it could be sculpted (by someone more talented than I am) to be less draggy. Still as noted in the blog post, retaining the top-mount intercooler solves so many problems that I think it's worth keeping.

[Metalium]

My second design...
Good luck to all.
M.Ali

[ScottKoschwitz]

After reviewing a few submissions on the Grassroots Motorsports page, I have to add the designs of 05xtsy and SETHalpine to my list of favorites.

[mekeys]

I am really disapppointed that Factory FIve doesn't seem to want to share all of the entries with the rest of us..

mekeys (Mel)

[crackedcornish]

someone on grassroots mentioned the G12.....I second that...looks very doable
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y148/montybay/g12ferr.jpg

[JRL]

Yup and if you want to see the cars on GR you have to wade through 50 + pages.

[05xtsy]

someone on grassroots mentioned the G12.....I second that...looks very doable
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y148/montybay/g12ferr.jpg

Not sure if you say my latest submission, as of now it uses the 06 wrx headlights (modified) but I do have a version with the 03 headlights that shares some resemblance to the g12.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v217/05xtsy/FinalIsoSubmission.jpg

I'll post the final layout on the second, but the back window are is also has some similar structure to it.

[crackedcornish]

Not sure if you say my latest submission, as of now it uses the 06 wrx headlights (modified) but I do have a version with the 03 headlights that shares some resemblance to the g12.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v217/05xtsy/FinalIsoSubmission.jpg

I'll post the final layout on the second, but the back window are is also has some similar structure to it.

I really like your take on how the nose should look....do you have this one without a top?
not really into the dome shape of the roof and how it rolls down to meet the side windows..could just be the angle of the pic

[keys2heaven]

This was one of the ideation sketches that led to my final design model. Enjoy!:cool:

Where's your final sketch? Interested to see what you teased us with.

[JRL]

Maybe it's just the angle of the pictures, but that huge air-dam behind the seats looks a little....hmm....draggy?

You are a kind soul...............

[VTX]

someone on grassroots mentioned the G12.....I second that...looks very doable
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y148/montybay/g12ferr.jpg

Personally, I'm not a fan. It looks a little too "bubbly" with the smooth flowing curves. I also think it looks kit-ish too. I'm really hoping the 818 doesn't look like a kit when it's done.

[crackedcornish]

Personally, I'm not a fan. It looks a little too "bubbly" with the smooth flowing curves. I also think it looks kit-ish too. I'm really hoping the 818 doesn't look like a kit when it's done.

since the G12 is from the mid sixties, I'm sure FF could use some of their magic on it and modernize it a bit without losing the spirit of the car, I mean a design like 05xtsy's car is already very close to this ideal

[riptide motorsport]

true.

[Cr8tr]

Where's your final sketch? Interested to see what you teased us with.

Here you go.

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showthread.php?2083-One-Hot-Ride-818-Submission

[bromikl]

If anyone here hasn't been over to GRM lately, (like me) you should definitely check out Ramarryo's submission. It may blow the budget, but I must say - that's one d*mn fine looking car.

[VTX]

If anyone here hasn't been over to GRM lately, (like me) you should definitely check out Ramarryo's submission. It may blow the budget, but I must say - that's one d*mn fine looking car.

I agree. That's my favorite right now.

[cayeya]

Hi everyone,

This is my submission, any comment is welcome.

Adrian.

http://www.carrera-ds.com/FactoryFive_Contest_2011/818%20CARRERA%20-%20Racing%20(Front).jpg

http://www.carrera-ds.com/FactoryFive_Contest_2011/818%20CARRERA%20-%20Coupe%20(Front).jpg

http://www.carrera-ds.com/FactoryFive_Contest_2011/818%20CARRERA%20-%20Speedster%20(Front).jpg

http://www.carrera-ds.com/FactoryFive_Contest_2011/818%20CARRERA%20-%20Roadster%20(Front).jpg

[smiley_2]

Time has come to post my contribution to this great brainstorm session. Good luck to all! I've been really impressed by the talent displayed on these forums.

[Thanas_4]

Hello again, good luck to everyone, I can't wait to see the results! This is our 2nd and final submition as Team_KT. It was great posting here and talking with you all. I hope that we will have the chance to participate in a contest like this again.

http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/9569/thanas4teliko.jpg
By team_kt (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/team_kt) at 2011-05-30

[unclebigbad]

I guess I'l post mine too, dang I forgot to put the door back on, imagine a half door. Nevermind.

http://i1119.photobucket.com/albums/k637/unclebigbad1/FFRFinalprofile.jpg
http://i1119.photobucket.com/albums/k637/unclebigbad1/FFREntry_0003.jpg
http://i1119.photobucket.com/albums/k637/unclebigbad1/FFREntry_0002.jpg
http://i1119.photobucket.com/albums/k637/unclebigbad1/FFREntry_0001-1.jpg

This was fun for me It got my son interested in what I do and even sparked an interest in racing that he didn't have before ( Thanks to GRM & Factory Five. How come our kids, don't think what we do is cool until someone else tells them its cool? ). Looks like an Mk kit is in the future (V-8's ya know, plus we already have a couple of donor cars lined up for that).

[unclebigbad]

Sorry, I though I had the size thing corrected. I just hope my ideas come across.

[Thanas_4]

Hey unclebigbad don't forget to send your submition to this email address (before the deadline which is on June 1st) in order to participate :

contest@grassrootsmotorsports.com

[99 Sebring Z28]

Here are my submissions
http://thumb1.webshots.net/t/72/172/4/41/42/2766441420044147601FskMFP_th.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2766441420044147601FskMFP)
http://thumb1.webshots.net/t/82/482/0/12/57/2414012570044147601VphSvE_th.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2414012570044147601VphSvE)
http://thumb1.webshots.net/t/87/87/1/51/72/2916151720044147601XCMWwR_th.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2916151720044147601XCMWwR)
http://thumb1.webshots.net/t/87/87/2/71/33/2902271330044147601jsNVck_th.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2902271330044147601jsNVck)

[GUNS]

Wow, this is my favorite so far!

http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k485/Ramarryo/F5R_Contest_LoRes1.jpg
http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k485/Ramarryo/F5R_Contest_LoRes2.jpg
http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k485/Ramarryo/F5R_Contest_LoRes3.jpg

I don't think this one by SETHalpine has been posted over here as well:

http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/892224FF03.jpg

http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/935523FF09.jpg

[Franze]

here is a copy of my submission,

Also added my concept sketches from the competition, enjoy

good luck to all!

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2515/5776265675_b3e411ee60_b.jpg
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5305/5776268445_3b6b444a10_b.jpg

[keys2heaven]

Wow, this is my favorite so far!

I would agree with you. Tough choice between Xabier's and this one.

[Ramarryo]

Hi everybody!

I'm a little late, but finally I made it!

It was my intention to post even on this board, but I've had some problem with my account. Now, thanks to Factory Five people, I'm here!

Now seems that GUNS made the work for me.... Thank you very much, I owe you something!

I also want to say thanks to everyone here for inspiration and positive feedback. I really appreciate.

[readymix]

Wow, this is my favorite so far!

http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k485/Ramarryo/F5R_Contest_LoRes1.jpg
http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k485/Ramarryo/F5R_Contest_LoRes2.jpg
http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k485/Ramarryo/F5R_Contest_LoRes3.jpg

I don't think this one by SETHalpine has been posted over here as well:

http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/892224FF03.jpg

http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/935523FF09.jpg

Top one is great! Bottom one looks a little 458 Italia in the front, a little Lotus Evora on the sides. Not that that's a bad thing.

[keys2heaven]

I always swore I'd never own another white car, but Mario's design has me rethinking that. The white version is stunning!

[xabier]

Hi everybody! A long ago I said I was going to do a track-day version of my design but I couldn´t do anything, until now! today I have had some time and I worked on it, so here it is, tell me what you think of it! all comments are welcome!

http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/l619/xabier-albizu/Sideview-racing.jpg

[JRL]

Zabier I'd pay real money for that one........sweet

[Twinspool]

Ah Mario, proving yet again that Italians can make anything look sexy. I would expect nothing less from the homeland of Monica Belluci.

keys2heaven: Send me all your white cars and I'll send you all my red ones. I swore off red years ago but they keep finding me!

[Krozn]

Hello everybody This is my final submission for the contest. hoping that you like it.

http://www.krozn.com//FF5_submission_HD/Krozn_submission_light.jpg

HD version Here (http://www.krozn.com//FF5_submission_HD/Krozn_submission)

[keys2heaven]

Hi everybody! A long ago I said I was going to do a track-day version of my design but I couldn´t do anything, until now! today I have had some time and I worked on it, so here it is, tell me what you think of it! all comments are welcome!

http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/l619/xabier-albizu/Sideview-racing.jpg


What a sweet ride!! Can't wait for the judging. :D

[keys2heaven]

Red is my other do not own. Only cars I've ever owned in a wreck were red.

[Ernesto Freitas]

Hello.

This is the third time I try to post this drawing. Not sure what is going wrong ...

Anyway, here is my entry for the contest. I only had a couple hours to spend on it.
I've made some changes to a previous idea I was working on allowing it to meet the requirements of this contest.
If I would have been aware of this contest early, I would present a proper and complete project.

However, I think the presented idea is consistent with a model that stands out for its simplicity of lines and shapes, far from the usual "Kit-Car" look.
This design enables the development of the various bodywork components with little or no complex masters, templates and mouldings, allowing a first cut in the development costs and manufacturing process. There are only a few parts, though big ones, but this allows easy mechanical access through the front and rear "clamshells".
The bodywork has air vents designed with a clear purpose of serving aerodynamic and mechanic issues and not just as a stylistic component. The two front air intakes, will serve to cool the front brakes, while the central obviously serves to deliver air to the main water radiator.
The main side intakes feed and oil cooler on one side, while across the other will be the intercooler.
Still on ite side, right after the side windows, are two small air intakes to feed the engine with fresh air.

The positioning of the wheels, doors and the "greenhouse" are proportional, as well as the space available for positioning the engine, behind the firewall, while front and rear overhang are well balanced with the wheelbase.

Finally, I express my most sincere congratulations to all, because in fact there are exceptional works presented here.

http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/8555/finalversion.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/585/finalversion.jpg/)

I do hope you like my idea.

Regard from Portugal,
Ernesto Freitas

[riptide motorsport]

HOLY CRAP Xabier thats OUTSTANDING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[kitcarj]

For me that paint design and the rear wing take it from cute to exotic!

[VTX]

Hi everybody! A long ago I said I was going to do a track-day version of my design but I couldn´t do anything, until now! today I have had some time and I worked on it, so here it is, tell me what you think of it! all comments are welcome!

http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/l619/xabier-albizu/Sideview-racing.jpg

Beautiful!!! I love it!

[GUNS]

Hi everybody!

I'm a little late, but finally I made it!

It was my intention to post even on this board, but I've had some problem with my account. Now, thanks to Factory Five people, I'm here!

Now seems that GUNS made the work for me.... Thank you very much, I owe you something!

I also want to say thanks to everyone here for inspiration and positive feedback. I really appreciate.

Your design is by far my favorite right now. That front on view is just awesome! Can you post some different colors?

[Ks2]

http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/l619/xabier-albizu/Sideview-racing.jpg

i love it it has gone from good looking street racer to Koenigsegg track monster, i noticed you changed the headlights, im curious to see if there is a direct vent for the top mount intercooler or if the two vents behind the seats still serve that purpose, any plans for vents above the front wheels (le mans style for example) to match the rear louvers?
if your car design wins this race package definitely needs to be offered as an option

ps. this has currently replaced my existing desktop background

http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/k550/NXXN/818xx.jpg

i really like this, the unnecessarily flared fenders, hot hatch styling and vaguely BMW-ish front end

the hatchback is what brought me to subarus in the first place, hope to see more of this

[keys2heaven]

Check this out:


Hi everyone,

This is my submission in 4 differents chassis styles, any comment is welcome.

Adrian.

http://www.carrera-ds.com/FactoryFive_Contest_2011/818 CARRERA - Racing (Front).jpg

http://www.carrera-ds.com/FactoryFive_Contest_2011/818 CARRERA - Coupe (Front).jpg

http://www.carrera-ds.com/FactoryFive_Contest_2011/818 CARRERA - Speedster (Front).jpg

http://www.carrera-ds.com/FactoryFive_Contest_2011/818 CARRERA - Roadster (Front).jpg

[GUNS]

^ Not bad. It kind of reminds me of an Ultima GTR and Porsche Boxter. I would like to see the rear, it looks like it slopes off pretty dramatically.

[JRL]

"s"

[Franze]

quite a solid effort, elements of porsche
front and rear could do with some more detail IMO

[Goran]

My entry.
@VTX. Thanks man. i saw Your reply too late. I'll try to render the car in black tomorrow.
http://i52.tinypic.com/2ptbj13.jpg

[VTX]

No problem Goran. Real nice work there! I think you are definitely one of the contenders. I would absolutely build that car!

[VTX]

Hello.

This is the third time I try to post this drawing. Not sure what is going wrong ...

Anyway, here is my entry for the contest. I only had a couple hours to spend on it.
I've made some changes to a previous idea I was working on allowing it to meet the requirements of this contest.
If I would have been aware of this contest early, I would present a proper and complete project.

However, I think the presented idea is consistent with a model that stands out for its simplicity of lines and shapes, far from the usual "Kit-Car" look.
This design enables the development of the various bodywork components with little or no complex masters, templates and mouldings, allowing a first cut in the development costs and manufacturing process. There are only a few parts, though big ones, but this allows easy mechanical access through the front and rear "clamshells".
The bodywork has air vents designed with a clear purpose of serving aerodynamic and mechanic issues and not just as a stylistic component. The two front air intakes, will serve to cool the front brakes, while the central obviously serves to deliver air to the main water radiator.
The main side intakes feed and oil cooler on one side, while across the other will be the intercooler.
Still on ite side, right after the side windows, are two small air intakes to feed the engine with fresh air.

The positioning of the wheels, doors and the "greenhouse" are proportional, as well as the space available for positioning the engine, behind the firewall, while front and rear overhang are well balanced with the wheelbase.

Finally, I express my most sincere congratulations to all, because in fact there are exceptional works presented here.

http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/8555/finalversion.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/585/finalversion.jpg/)

I do hope you like my idea.

Regard from Portugal,
Ernesto Freitas

Wow, so many good designs starting to come out of the woodwork in the last couple of days! I kind of figured (and hoped) that's what would happen.

This almost looks a little like a Corvette, only SO much better.

[readymix]

Check this out:

I see some Dino in those lines. Beautiful.

[riptide motorsport]

Ernrsto that is a beautiful design, I liike it alot!

[blueafro]

http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/8555/finalversion.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/585/finalversion.jpg/)

I do hope you like my idea.

Yours is one of very few submissions, open or closed, that appear to have decent side and rear visibility. I congratulate you.

[Ramarryo]

Your design is by far my favorite right now. That front on view is just awesome! Can you post some different colors?

I can and I will. Not sure when, cause I have some work left behind, but I hope soon enough ;)

[Ernesto Freitas]

Hi.

Thank you very much for the comments.

Looking forward for the results. I'm very curious about it.

Regards from Portugal,
Ernesto Freitas

[Silvertop]

Zabier I'd pay real money for that one........sweet

Me too!!!!! And I don't even need a track car. Beautiful. Just Bleeping Beautiful!

[Gun Bunny]

Ernesto, that's even better than the first submission you posted, which I also liked a great deal. If this is what you come up with at the last minute, I'd love to see what you could do with a month or two to work with it...

[mekeys]

Ernesto Freitas from Portugal has my vote.On a scale of 1-10 his is a 15..

[kach22i]

Did you recived any reply when you sent mail to contest@grassrootsmotorsports.com ?

No, I did not either.

Kind of unnerving, but I will just suffer though it.

Some really nice designs guys.

[Vman7]

Sneak Peek of my rear views.

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2170&d=1306851006

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2171&d=1306851008

Now whether I get the rest of the car done or not in time is another story.:(

[bbjones121]

Get er done.

[kach22i]

Get the other views done, if only a line drawing at least you stand a chance.

Looking real good.

[Ramarryo]

Hi there! I'm back. First of all I want to say thank you for your comments..... I really didn't expect such a positive reaction.

I'm well aware that my concept is far from perfection; it would probably blow the budget of 15,000 $, as someone of you have noticed, and I know that it has some practical problems (huge blind spots on the rear, due to intercooler air intake), but my intention was to open some new ways of thinking about 818 project (and of course to win the first prize of 5,000 ;) ).... This would be great for me...

I really like many of other submissions: Xabier (the Racing version rocks!), Ernesto Freitas, Team KT, Krozn, and I'm looking forward to know which one will be the jury's choice.

And now, as requested, I post here a black version of my concept (with golden rims as a tribute to the donor car).... Maybe I will have the time for trying other colors and, who knows, for a track version.

Let me know what you guys think, hope you like it.

Mario

http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k485/Ramarryo/F5RModel-51-1_black-1.jpg
http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k485/Ramarryo/F5RModel-51-2_black.jpg

[unclebigbad]

Thanks Thanas_4, I did, I have always dug your designs we seem to speak the same language as far as taste, I wish I had your skill. Good luck.

[VTX]

Mario,

The black looks awesome! Thanks for posting!

[4Turbo]

This is my ariel atom meets ferrari design. Its modular, so their is a fully open version and a closed version. I will be highlighting some simple mechanisms to show how everything works in my next renderings.

Fully closed Race version
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v217/05xtsy/Mod1.jpg

Fully open race version
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v217/05xtsy/Mod1FullopenRacing.jpg


Been trolling through this contest randomly to see what people are making, I have to throw my opinion in here now, I have looked through all of the pages of submissions, there really are so many good designs, but I think this design by 05xtsy is stunning. I love the Idea of being able to change the car with the panels (I think thats what you're going for). Someone could make it as cheap or as expensive as they wanted. I think a lot of the other designs are very nice, but pretty bland. This is decently simple but dynamic enough to not get boring. Awesome work 05xtsy!

[mske390]

Ernesto Freitas from Portugal has my vote.

Mine too, wow that is a real nice design! Seems to me to be an updated, cleaner and nicer NSX.

[surfacemonkey]

My 2 cents.

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a9/whoami2u/F5_RIHA.jpg

[xabier]

Today I have been able to finish the rear view of the racing version of my design as some asked, so here it goes, I suppose this is the last thing I am going to do before the deadline. Now, good luck everybody!! It has been really nice to take part and thanks everyone for their comments, I really appreciate all of them!
Hope you like it!

http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/l619/xabier-albizu/rear-racing.jpg

[keys2heaven]

Xabier,

For whatever it's worth, which isn't much, you've got my vote. As I've said before, you've got a lot of talent for your age and it's sure to get better. I truly hope you do well in the competition.

[xabier]

Thanks a lot keys2heaven!! and thanks to everyone who have helped me improve the design or have given its opinion about it, everything has been positive for me in this competition, now it is time to wait for the results...

[PhyrraM]

My 2 cents.

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a9/whoami2u/F5_RIHA.jpg

Interesting. Stratos meets Mustang.

Kinda cool.

[RodneyO]

Hi everyone here is a render test of the design I'm hoping to submit, time is getting short :eek:, I'll post some more renders as soon as get them done. btw there are so many kick ..ss designs here, very inspiring.
-Cheers
http://www.unoverse.com/factory5/test.jpg

[RodneyO]

Hi everyone here is a render test of the design I'm hoping to submit, time is getting short , I'll post some more renders as soon as get them done. btw there are so many kick ..ss designs here, very inspiring.
-Cheers
http://www.unoverse.com/factory5/test.jpg

[Steve91T]

Xabier,

For whatever it's worth, which isn't much, you've got my vote. As I've said before, you've got a lot of talent for your age and it's sure to get better. I truly hope you do well in the competition.

I feel the same way. There are several other designs that I think would look great, but I absolutely love your design. Good luck!

[Ernesto Freitas]

Ernesto Freitas from Portugal has my vote.On a scale of 1-10 his is a 15..

Thank you very much.

Anyway, seven minutes to close the entries (GMT anyway) I submit the rear view.

http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/6168/finalrear.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/18/finalrear.jpg/)


Hope you like it too.

Regards from Portugal,
Ernesto Freitas

[keys2heaven]

This one from a Rodney


RodneyO wrote:

Hi everyone here is a render test of the design I'm hoping to submit, time is getting short. I'll post some more renders as soon as get them done.

btw there are so many kick ..ss designs here, very inspiring.
-cheers

http://www.unoverse.com/factory5/test.jpg



Gaaaa. He beat me to it.

Rodney, very nice and I notice a lot of styling cues from the roadster.

Liking the front end A LOT!!!

LOVE the honeycomb grill.

[Steve91T]

Hi everyone here is a render test of the design I'm hoping to submit, time is getting short , I'll post some more renders as soon as get them done. btw there are so many kick ..ss designs here, very inspiring.
-Cheers
http://www.unoverse.com/factory5/test.jpg

Wow, very cool! The front end reminds me of a pissed off 5th gen Camaro! I like it! Do you have more angles?

Steve

[keys2heaven]

^^

Wow, very cool! The front end reminds me of a pissed off 5th gen Camaro! I like it! Do you have more angles?

Steve

Looks like a Mk 4 Roadster ate a Camaro. ;)

[05xtsy]

Been trolling through this contest randomly to see what people are making, I have to throw my opinion in here now, I have looked through all of the pages of submissions, there really are so many good designs, but I think this design by 05xtsy is stunning. I love the Idea of being able to change the car with the panels (I think thats what you're going for). Someone could make it as cheap or as expensive as they wanted. I think a lot of the other designs are very nice, but pretty bland. This is decently simple but dynamic enough to not get boring. Awesome work 05xtsy!

Thank you, yes, my idea was to have the panels interchangeable and I wrote in another post just how it all comes together. I really wish I had more time to do finish it, 4 classes and work doesn't leave a lot of time for this stuff. Thanks for all the insight everyone, and good luck to all!

[Spezz]

Hey guys this was my submission.

It's a roadster with a removable top.

http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv360/Spezz123/Factory%20Five%20Project%20818/ValentinBejenar_FFRdesigncontest_front34_small.jpg

http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv360/Spezz123/Factory%20Five%20Project%20818/ValentinBejenar_FFRdesigncontest_rear34_small.jpg

http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv360/Spezz123/Factory%20Five%20Project%20818/ValentinBejenar_FFRdesigncontest_profile_small.jpg

What do you guys think?

[ScottKoschwitz]

Cayeya's design just popped into my list of favorites. I am really impressed with the talent out there. I could only dream of imagining some of these designs, much less having the skill to illustrate them.

[riptide motorsport]

I would build a half dozen of these diferent dersigns,,,FFR got the best there is out there in the world for bargain. everyone just did great design work.....................cogratulations to you all.....Steven

[2KWIK4U]

I would build a half dozen of these diferent dersigns,,,FFR got the best there is out there in the world for bargain. everyone just did great design work.....................cogratulations to you all.....Steven

I have to agree with Steven, and good luck to all of the designers.

[VTX]

Hi everyone here is a render test of the design I'm hoping to submit, time is getting short , I'll post some more renders as soon as get them done. btw there are so many kick ..ss designs here, very inspiring.
-Cheers
http://www.unoverse.com/factory5/test.jpg

This one is pretty interesting. I'd love to see some other angles and a more final render. Not sure I'm totally crazy about the headlights, but overall pretty cool.

[GUNS]

This one is pretty interesting. I'd love to see some other angles and a more final render. Not sure I'm totally crazy about the headlights, but overall pretty cool.

I agree, I love the side/quarter panel, but I'm not sure about the front. Like stated earlier, it kind of looks like a camaro. I would like to see it with either some different lights or a more rounded nose. The rest of the car flows beautfully and the it just cuts off at the front. Other than that I think it's a fantastic concept, well done!

[Steve91T]

I agree, I love the side/quarter panel, but I'm not sure about the front. Like stated earlier, it kind of looks like a camaro. I would like to see it with either some different lights or a more rounded nose. The rest of the car flows beautfully and the it just cuts off at the front. Other than that I think it's a fantastic concept, well done!

But if the rear matches the front, then it might look pretty bad ***. Looking like a pissed off Camaro isn't necessarily a bad thing.

Steve

[Doc_FFR]

Many of these designs are worth admiring. For me, Xabier's is the one I'll be buying.

[kitcarj]

Hi everyone here is a render test of the design I'm hoping to submit, time is getting short , I'll post some more renders as soon as get them done. btw there are so many kick ..ss designs here, very inspiring.
-Cheers
http://www.unoverse.com/factory5/test.jpg

It looks nice. I wish a lot of people with darker color cars used more lighting so we could see some of the detail work they have done.

[818SomeDay]

Considering the quality of submissions shown so far, whatever is chosen will likely be fantastic. I'm no designer but if I got to make the call, I'd go with something like the 328 Hommage, most beautiful car I've seen in a long while.

http://www.autoblog.com/photos/bmw-328-hommage/#4151981

[Ldavis]

I have just submitted my designs, little nervous with the outstanding designs I have seen here. I have been working on this since day one. Here are some of the better renders. All in all lots of fun.

Oh and as you can see I like Volks Te-37 (Green because Ken Block rocks Green ones ) with Azenis Rt615 (I looked at pictures of Azeinis and tried my best to copy the tread pattern)

My first car I have designed in Solidworks, good learning experience.

217621842183218221812180217921772185

[Franze]

[QUOTE=Ldavis;21249]I have just submitted my designs, little nervous with the outstanding designs I have seen here. I have been working on this since day one. Here are some of the better renders. All in all lots of fun.

Oh and as you can see I like Volks Te-37 (Green because Ken Block rocks Green ones ) with Azenis Rt615 (I looked at pictures of Azeinis and tried my best to copy the tread pattern)

My first car I have designed in Solidworks, good learning experience.

looking good mate,

as a tip hit the perspective button in solidworks to make the images pop

[jkf]

Well I've been doodling on this for a couple of weeks and thought I might as well post what I've come up with.

I totally can't compete with some of the design talent that this has attracted, but can't resist throwing my two bits in. :)

Here is the side view of the stripped down version, fiberglass stepover doors and plexi windscreen:


http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2201&d=1306908071

A windshield and doors are possible for wimps who don't like swallowing bees or whatnot:


http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2199&d=1306908069

And a targa top should be pretty easy to figure out for real wimps who like to drive in the rain but not get wet...

The windshield and doors are both from a gen 2 miata, so while it is no longer single donor for the "upgrade" kit, they should be pretty easy parts to find. The only weight penalty to the base kit would be mounting points for the windshield and doors; 818 kg should still be easily possible. A miata softtop doesn't quite work w/the rollbar, and also would cover the intercooler outlet, but could maybe be butchered to work if someone wanted lightweight emergency weatherproofing.


Top views:


http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2200&d=1306908070


and the front and rear:


http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2198&d=1306908068

I tried to KISS here -- head & taillights are all off the shelf items (cheap). If people want projectors, LEDS or whatever they can upgrade, but I don't see where they need to be in the base kit for $9900.

I tried to draw an isometric but remembered that I suck at drafting... :cool:


Best luck to everyone who has posted entries -- whatever the judges decide, I'm pretty sure there will be an awesome car for us all to build in the end!

[RodneyO]

Here are some more renders from different angles, thanks for the feedback, I will try and change the headlights as well =), If you have any more thoughts let me know, I will post new versions soon that have the top on.

cheers,

-Rodney

http://www.unoverse.com/factory5/RodneyOlmos_2.jpg
http://www.unoverse.com/factory5/RodneyOlmos_3.jpg
http://www.unoverse.com/factory5/RodneyOlmos_4.jpg
http://www.unoverse.com/factory5/RodneyOlmos_5.jpg
http://www.unoverse.com/factory5/RodneyOlmos_6.jpg
http://www.unoverse.com/factory5/RodneyOlmos_7.jpg

[SW1]

Just wanted to say the enthusiasm on this forum for the 818 is very exciting and contagious. I really enjoyed the lively debates which helped shape my design priorities. Attached are a few images of the two design I submitted last night.

[kach22i]

So everyone with these short rear overhangs is just going to have the transmission stick out?

Nice car, just curious about the rear.

[keys2heaven]

More views from Rodney


RodneyO wrote:

Here are some more renders from different angles, thanks for the feedback, I will try and change the headlights as well =), If you have any more thoughts let me know, I will post new versions soon that have the top on.

cheers,

-Rodney
http://www.unoverse.com/factory5/RodneyOlmos_2.jpg
http://www.unoverse.com/factory5/RodneyOlmos_3.jpg
http://www.unoverse.com/factory5/RodneyOlmos_4.jpg
http://www.unoverse.com/factory5/RodneyOlmos_5.jpg
http://www.unoverse.com/factory5/RodneyOlmos_6.jpg
http://www.unoverse.com/factory5/RodneyOlmos_7.jpg


Seriously, couldn't you just see a Coyote in this with a little rework? Heck, put the engine in back.

How bout making this the new Mk 5. Roadster! A modern take on a classic. This is just outstanding!!!!

[Steve91T]

More views from Rodney



Seriously, couldn't you just see a Coyote in this with a little rework? Heck, put the engine in back.

How bout making this the new Mk 5. Roadster! A modern take on a classic. This is just outstanding!!!!


I like it a lot! I'm not really sure if the headlights work. Maybe just smaller round lights? The rear look perfect. Honestly, the rest of the design looks perfect. I really like it. It's now one of my favorites.

It's pretty exciting seeing all of these great designs!

Steve

[keys2heaven]

Steve91T ^^

I really like the front. Unique.

I'd probably make the grill more oval to pay homage to the roadster.

Big question is: Can we mount a Coyote in the rear?

[Reload]

Here's my final design.

- Reload

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2263/5786530377_f572c1c7a6_b.jpg

[cayeya]

Hi everyone,

Thanks a lot for all your comments! I really appreciate all your words!

Seriously, there are great designs here! Great skills...... I like a lot of them....like RodneyO's design for example, the left view is unique.

@ keys2heaven, Thanks for posting here my GRM post.

I will post some shots from others angles later today.

[VTX]

I like it a lot! I'm not really sure if the headlights work. Maybe just smaller round lights? The rear look perfect. Honestly, the rest of the design looks perfect. I really like it. It's now one of my favorites.

It's pretty exciting seeing all of these great designs!

Steve

I agree, there is something about the front that just isn't quite perfect, but it's still pretty good. I think smaller headlights and/or just getting rid of the white outline might do it. The rest is great though!

[kach22i]

Here are my submissions
http://thumb1.webshots.net/t/72/172/4/41/42/2766441420044147601FskMFP_th.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2766441420044147601FskMFP)
http://thumb1.webshots.net/t/82/482/0/12/57/2414012570044147601VphSvE_th.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2414012570044147601VphSvE)
http://thumb1.webshots.net/t/87/87/1/51/72/2916151720044147601XCMWwR_th.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2916151720044147601XCMWwR)
http://thumb1.webshots.net/t/87/87/2/71/33/2902271330044147601jsNVck_th.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2902271330044147601jsNVck)

First time your images showed up for me.

I like it, wish they had a tone wash of some kind to flush/flesh the body out.

[SW1]

http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m536/SW818/whetstone-005.jpghttp://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m536/SW818/whetstone-004.jpg

http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m536/SW818/whetstone-003.jpg

[SW1]

http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m536/SW818/whetstone-007.jpg

http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m536/SW818/whetstone-008.jpg

http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m536/SW818/whetstone-009.jpg

http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m536/SW818/whetstone-010.jpg

http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m536/SW818/whetstone-011.jpg

[cayeya]

As I said before....great designs! I like the SW1's concept.... specially the rear view

[Ramarryo]

http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m536/SW818/whetstone-007.jpg

http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m536/SW818/whetstone-008.jpg

http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m536/SW818/whetstone-009.jpg

http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m536/SW818/whetstone-010.jpg

http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m536/SW818/whetstone-011.jpg

This is it!!

I have to say it, even though I submitted my own concept: if I were in the Jury my vote would go to this one!!.... Simple, clean, beautiful.

Great work!!

[JJCoupe]

I've been following the design contest the whole way through. Let me just say that I never expected submissions on the caliber of what we've been seeing for the last two months. I can't wait to see what the results are.

To SW1: Wow! This one really fits the critera from bottom to top and looks progressive and innovative while doing it. I'm sure FF appreciates the simplicity of the body molds in this design. Great stuff!

[mekeys]

SW1 nailed it.!!!!!!This would be the one or(3) for me..

[Steve91T]

SW1, I really think you are onto something. I love what you have, but I would like to see you take it a step further. The only thing I think needs to be incorporated are some air vents. The radiator opening is a little small, but probably sufficient. Radiator air exiting out the hood would be nice, and could probably be into the design and still have the look that you want. The engine needs to have air though. Would you be able to do come up with some side vents that still look like their are part of the original design without looking like an after thought?

Anyway, like I said, it looks awesome and I'd buy one today. But if I did buy one, I'd be sitting in the garage looking at it wondering how to get more air to the engine.

The more I look at your design, the more I think some well placed vents would go from looking really nice, to freaking amazing. Vents would absolutely push it over the top.

Steve

[kach22i]

I started this contest with the idea that I could dust off a design I did five years ago (clay model) for fun and be done with it. I ended up doing eight schemes in all, this is the tart which got me started, so I'll post it. Once I had more time to think about the goals for the 818, the newer designs most likely addressed the problem better, but many times with less soul.

http://s184.photobucket.com/albums/x295/kach22i/Industrial%20Design/
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x295/kach22i/Industrial%20Design/GKA-SCHEME1-CLAY-CAR-b.jpg
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x295/kach22i/Industrial%20Design/GKA-SCHEME1-front.jpg
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x295/kach22i/Industrial%20Design/GKA-Scheme1-rear.jpg
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x295/kach22i/Industrial%20Design/GKA-Scheme1-side.jpg
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x295/kach22i/Industrial%20Design/GKA-Scheme1-section.jpg
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x295/kach22i/Industrial%20Design/GKA-Scheme1-top.jpg

Good luck to everyone, it's been interesting.

[Steve91T]

kach, My opinion is ditch the spare tire. A can of fix of flat is all you need. That would allow you to lower the back end. I think if the back end was more in line with the front, it would look pretty good.

Steve

[kach22i]

lower the back end
You make some good points, I was not real happy with the targa roof off look (model looks better) but chose to put my time and energy into more designs specific to the program challenge.

In case anyone was wondering which cars inspired this one, I'd say many but this would be it's great grandfather:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Dick_Dean_Shalako_c1969.jpg

[2KWIK4U]

http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m536/SW818/whetstone-007.jpg

http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m536/SW818/whetstone-008.jpg

http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m536/SW818/whetstone-009.jpg

http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m536/SW818/whetstone-010.jpg

http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m536/SW818/whetstone-011.jpg

Ok, where do I send my money to build this, outstanding!

[Bluewinters21]

These were my entries...
http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2011/151/6/7/818_4_by_bluewinters21-d3hq660.jpg
http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2011/151/3/5/818_3_by_bluewinters21-d3hq63c.jpg
http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2011/151/c/7/818_5_by_bluewinters21-d3hq6k6.jpg
http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2011/151/3/5/818_8_by_bluewinters21-d3hq6s5.jpg
http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2011/151/8/5/818_7_by_bluewinters21-d3hq6p7.jpg
http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2011/151/8/3/818_6_by_bluewinters21-d3hq6ms.jpg
http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2011/151/0/d/818_2_by_bluewinters21-d3hq60s.jpg

[Bluewinters21]

And some more...
http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2011/151/9/1/818_9_by_bluewinters21-d3hq6xg.jpg
http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2011/151/1/f/818_10_by_bluewinters21-d3hq70v.jpg
http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2011/151/3/f/818_13_by_bluewinters21-d3hq7fi.jpg
http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2011/151/3/8/818_12_by_bluewinters21-d3hq7j4.jpg
http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2011/151/2/e/818_15_by_bluewinters21-d3hq7u1.jpg
IMG]http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2011/151/e/0/818_16_by_bluewinters21-d3hq7xx.jpg[/IMG]
http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2011/151/4/4/818_18_by_bluewinters21-d3hq86t.jpg

[Bluewinters21]

Last set from me...
http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2011/151/1/f/818_19_by_bluewinters21-d3hq8c7.jpg
http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2011/151/d/b/818_21_by_bluewinters21-d3hq8io.jpg
http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2011/151/4/8/818_22_by_bluewinters21-d3hq8lj.jpg

[armstrom]

Ok, where do I send my money to build this, outstanding!

Agreed. Others have said this before me, but that design seems to have it all. The suggested body seams would make for VERY easy molds (no crazy sharp edges or overhangs). But, at the same time it maintains a very modern and exotic looking shape. Also, having traditional quarterpanels, rear valence, hood, etc.. makes repairs much cheaper and easier. Clip a pole and damage the front quarter? Just buy that piece of body work, no need to replace the entire front end just because it's molded as a single piece. The potential for roof options looks good as well. I could see anything from a solid FG panel to a glass/plexi panoramic roof or even a folding cloth insert (like the smart cars have). The integrated A-pillar roof "rails" also make the door construction easier. Really top notch stuff. I want one :)

[VTX]

This is it!!

I have to say it, even though I submitted my own concept: if I were in the Jury my vote would go to this one!!.... Simple, clean, beautiful.

Great work!!

It is a very cool design. The headlights are very Ferrari like. However, I still like yours the best Mario! :)

[kach22i]

I agree that SW1's design is one of the better designs in regards to maintaining the flow of a coupe with the open air of a targa (my first scheme falls short on that aspect). However after living with a Geo Tracker for 19-1/2 years, those tie over side bars just took too much away from the open top convertible feel. I could not in good faith commit to it as a design solution myself.

SW1 sure made the best of it, gotta give full credit there. It does look great.

My old ride as an example...........open top, not looking very open top.
http://s184.photobucket.com/albums/x295/kach22i/Zebra%20Tracker/
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x295/kach22i/Zebra%20Tracker/ZT-3.jpg

Yes, I painted it that way myself - to hide the rust.

[cayeya]

Hi,

As many of you were wondering how looks the car from side and rear, here are some views for the 4 differents chassis styles.

http://www.carrera-ds.com/FactoryFive_Contest_2011/818%20CARRERA%20-%20Racing%20(Left).jpg

http://www.carrera-ds.com/FactoryFive_Contest_2011/818%20CARRERA%20-%20Racing%20(Rear).jpg

http://www.carrera-ds.com/FactoryFive_Contest_2011/818%20CARRERA%20-%20Racing%20(Only%20Front).jpg

http://www.carrera-ds.com/FactoryFive_Contest_2011/818%20CARRERA%20-%20Racing%20(Only%20Rear).jpg

http://www.carrera-ds.com/FactoryFive_Contest_2011/818%20CARRERA%20-%20Coupe%20(Top).jpg

http://www.carrera-ds.com/FactoryFive_Contest_2011/818%20CARRERA%20-%20Coupe%20(Rear).jpg

[cayeya]

http://www.carrera-ds.com/FactoryFive_Contest_2011/818%20CARRERA%20-%20Speedster%20(Top).jpg

http://www.carrera-ds.com/FactoryFive_Contest_2011/818%20CARRERA%20-%20Speedster%20(Rear).jpg

http://www.carrera-ds.com/FactoryFive_Contest_2011/818%20CARRERA%20-%20Roadster%20(Top).jpg

http://www.carrera-ds.com/FactoryFive_Contest_2011/818%20CARRERA%20-%20Roadster%20(Rear).jpg

It was a great to be part of the contest....Good luck to everyone!!!

Adrian.

[VTX]

Wow, Kach is that your entry? That's the best I've seen yet! :D

[thebeerbaron]

I too vote for Kach's Zebra design.

[keys2heaven]

This is it!!

I have to say it, even though I submitted my own concept: if I were in the Jury my vote would go to this one!!.... Simple, clean, beautiful.

Great work!!

My top three:

Xabier's
Rodney's
SW1's

All three are outstanding!

[PhyrraM]

SW1,

WOW. Nice job. Beautiful lines and VERY good proportions.

I could see the nose being a problem with driveway ramps and such. I also agree with the above poster that the side rails will kill the open-top feeling. Much better to stay as a closed coupe or do a removable moonroof type of thing. I would love to see a true convertable or roadster.

I'm not a fan of the lights, front or rear. The fronts look to deriviative and hard (expensive?) to build. The rears need just ever so slighty "more".

I love the rear arch and diffuser combo that allows a peek at the tires. I also agree that the side air exhausts are more than enough to keep the radiator happy. No need to ruin the hood for that function.

A bit too "supercar" for me, but just ever so slightly so. Something I could easily live with.

Excellent job. In my personal top 3. Good luck, and Thanks for the effort!

[crackedcornish]

http://www.carrera-ds.com/FactoryFive_Contest_2011/818%20CARRERA%20-%20Speedster%20(Top).jpg

http://www.carrera-ds.com/FactoryFive_Contest_2011/818%20CARRERA%20-%20Speedster%20(Rear).jpg

http://www.carrera-ds.com/FactoryFive_Contest_2011/818%20CARRERA%20-%20Roadster%20(Top).jpg

http://www.carrera-ds.com/FactoryFive_Contest_2011/818%20CARRERA%20-%20Roadster%20(Rear).jpg

It was a great to be part of the contest....Good luck to everyone!!!

Adrian.

FFR needs to build this
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s147/crackedcornish/b4a57870.jpg
http://www.carrera-ds.com/FactoryFive_Contest_2011/818%20CARRERA%20-%20Racing%20(Left).jpg

[kach22i]

Wow, Kach is that your entry? That's the best I've seen yet! :D
Funny, but I'll have you know that in the six years or so that the Geo had stripes (before salt ate the electrical harness) several people thought it was a new car model with testing camouflage.

Adrian/cayeya, that car gets better looking every time I see it - did you lower the seating position from standard? Good luck.

[Bluewinters21]

Cayeya, Your design is awesome... The car needs the wing though. I like the hard top best. A targa top for that car would be great too! I think yours, RodneyO’s, and Krozn Designs are my favorite so far. Again... Awesome!

[Steve91T]

Last set from me...
http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2011/151/1/f/818_19_by_bluewinters21-d3hq8c7.jpg
http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2011/151/d/b/818_21_by_bluewinters21-d3hq8io.jpg
http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2011/151/4/8/818_22_by_bluewinters21-d3hq8lj.jpg

Blue, I'm sorry, but you do realize this is a mid/rear engine car, right? What you designed looks awesome, but you have designed a front engine car! Even your exhaust would only work with a front engine car. I'm sorry, but that's not going work.

Steve

[kach22i]

bluewinters21 is just doing what a lot of the recent and wonderful designs have been doing - pulling a Kobayashi Maru just like captain Kirk.

Kobayashi Maru?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kobayashi_Maru

Example - and I don't love this design any less for it - not judging anyone here.
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x295/kach22i/Automobile/KobayashiMaru.jpg

From a while back.
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x295/kach22i/Automobile/kach22i-frame-elevation-door-study-FFR.jpg

I'm not one of the judges, they have their work cut out for them in more than one way.

[Bluewinters21]

I also posted this on Grass Roots.
Mid-engine design typically means that the heaviest components are nearer to the center of the vehicle.

There are;
Front Mid-engine / Rear-wheel drive
Front Mid-engine / Four-wheel drive
Rear Mid-engine / Rear-wheel drive
Rear Mid-engine / Four-wheel drive
Etc...

When I heard that they were using a WRX as a donor, and making it only rear wheel drive, I was thinking of a Front Mid-engine / Rear-wheel drive car... That being said, after checking the design templates on the Factory Five website, I do believe that they intend to make a Rear Mid-engine / Rear-wheel drive car. I think that some other people made the same mistake that I did... I was kinda’ embarrassed about it after the fact, but oh well. There is always a next time!

Oh, and kach22i... Love the treki reference! ;)

[Steve91T]

I also posted this on Grass Roots.
Mid-engine design typically means that the heaviest components are nearer to the center of the vehicle.

There are;
Front Mid-engine / Rear-wheel drive
Front Mid-engine / Four-wheel drive
Rear Mid-engine / Rear-wheel drive
Rear Mid-engine / Four-wheel drive
Etc...

When I heard that they were using a WRX as a donor, and making it only rear wheel drive, I was thinking of a Front Mid-engine / Rear-wheel drive car... That being said, after checking the design templates on the Factory Five website, I do believe that they intend to make a Rear Mid-engine / Rear-wheel drive car. I think that some other people made the same mistake that I did... I was kinda’ embarrassed about it after the fact, but oh well. There is always a next time!

Oh, and kach22i... Love the treki reference! ;)

I it makes you feel any better, you designed an amazing car. Honestly

[Vman7]

Well so much for making the deadline:(, just no way I will have the side view done in time.

Must be nice to be able to use 3D modeling software, but since I don't have any, not to mention I can't afford it. I just have to do with Photoshop CS3.

Here is what I have so far.

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2215&d=1306975497

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2214&d=1306975496

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2217&d=1306975501

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2216&d=1306975499

Good Luck to everybody!

[JJCoupe]

Not to highjack the thread. I think this is somewhat still on topic.

In reference to ONLY using the template to design these cars, Dave Smith said it himself...(paraphrasing) They wanted to keep the design as open as possible, but they had to give us something to start with.

I think every submission has some merrit in the contest. Even Bluewinters21's front/mid setup. If FF ends up modifying the chassis and component layout to mesh more with some of these designs then so be it. I think some people have gotten a little too hung up on the templates. IMHO the templates have created more than a few unattractive, bubble shaped cars. In the end the winning design will only be a component of the actual final design. The final car is up to Factory Five after all. Who knows, they may take pieces of the top ten designs and put them all together.

I'm excited to see what happens in the next year or two of production work from the engineers at FF.

[unclebigbad]

http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m536/SW818/whetstone-003.jpg[/QUOTE]

This is the one!