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wareaglescott
05-26-2018, 02:40 PM
Scott-
Love the new project; congratulations!! I look forward to the link so I can live vicariously through you!
You are going to need a bigger garage, or have you already sorted that out?
Going restomod, or just a nice updating? Sorry if I missed that detail! I am sure you have seen the work that Singer does. Insane builds, with equally insane budgets I presume!
Good luck with the new project, and I can't wait to follow along with your progress! All the best!
Regards,
Steve
Thanks Steve. I have a second garage that is my workshop. I am definitely at capacity now. My wife told me past night when I mentioned another car that she "was in permanent eye rolling mode". Probably ought not to push my luck. I got her car back in the main garage this morning.
Still developing exactly what I want to do. Going to drive it as is for the summer.
Clover
05-27-2018, 12:12 AM
Still developing exactly what I want to do. Going to drive it as is for the summer.
I think this is a very wise approach. I am sure you are aware, however, the driving experience with those classic 911's is unique. Yes, you could put coil overs on and stiffen up this or that and be a bit faster. In the end though, you don't end up with that same balance or same unique feel of the classic 911. If it were me, I would restore it and enjoy it but not modify it.
WIS89
05-27-2018, 02:04 PM
Scott-
I like the second garage. My hope is that my next place -- which I hope will be soon -- will have a garage used as a garage, them a garage/workshop where I can spend my time. I think my wife would actually go along with the second garage, which is awesome!
I like the plan to get the feel of the car before making any resto plans. Makes a lot of sense. I look forward to watching with whatever you decide to do!
I am still completely jealous brother!!
Regards,
Steve
wareaglescott
05-31-2018, 11:37 AM
Hit 5000 miles the other day. Took about 12.5 months since getting registered. I am pleased with the amount I have been able to drive it. I have never had the car at the limit but my smile has been at the limit for each of those 5000 miles.
I changed the oil and lubed the chassis as well as checked out about every other thing I could think of on the car. Honestly I do not expect in future years to put that many miles on it. I wanted to get on an annual maintenance schedule of doing everything each May before it gets to hot in the garage. Moving forward I plan to do a complete service annually.
A few impressions after 1 year of driving. Please recall this is my first ever build/major automotive project and I definitely had plenty of rookie mistakes and learning lessons along the way.
- I am extremely impressed with the quality of the Factory Five product. I thought going into this project I would continuously have some sort of project to perform on this car. That is simply not the case. The car has been trouble free since the initial shakedown miles and adjustments within the first 300-500 miles.
- same goes for the drivetrain. Coyote just goes every time and I am very pleased with the TKO-600 and IRS. I am so pleased with the Coyote decision and the ease of operation and reliability. Maybe a little bit more of a challenge during the build but that extra work is paying dividends now.
- only real complaint was the noise from the FFR side pipes. Pretty thoroughly documented the change to flow masters earlier. If I were building again that is really the only change I would make from the start.
- I did have the opportunity to drive forum member Duke's MK4 yesterday. He has a Coyote/ IRS/ T-56 6 speed setup. Now I am satisfied with my TKO but actually think the T-56 made the car more enjoyable. Seen the 6 speed vs 5 speed debate come up a few times. I always assumed the 5 speed was plenty good enough and still do but having the opportunity to drive the 6 speed it was quite nice. If anyone reading this is considering both options give that 6 speed a hard look. I will say from a power band, gearing, cruising RPM stand point I did not notice a huge difference. My main enjoyment was just how it shifted and felt.
As I mentioned I had the opportunity to drive Duke's car yesterday. I was in Boston and visited him and we went down and toured FFR together. My first visit to FFR and I loved it. Was great to meet all the people I have spoken to on the phone many times and see the entire operation. Dave Smith showed Duke and I around personally for about 45 minutes and then took us and some of the other guys out to lunch. It was great seeing all the projects in process. Dave showed us some computer models of the next project coming out and has plans to possibly unveil it June 30. Looks pretty cool and I will leave more information on that for Dave to expose. They had a full race caged truck they are building for Joey Lagano in the shop. Had a pretty impressive motor sitting it in. Should be pretty amazing. Also were building another truck with a supercharged Coyote sitting in it. They fired that up while we were there. All in all it was a really neat experience. I finally was able to sit in a Gen 3 Coupe as well as the Race version that appeared on Fast and Loud TV show. Really liked the Gen 3 coupe. That could certainly be on my list after I finish the 911 in a couple years!
Another shout out to the awesome Factory Five builder community. I met Duke through the forum but never actually in person. We also share interest in Porsche. He was gracious enough to have me stay at his home in Boston and let me drive both his Cobra and his Race spec somehow street legal 911 Turbo. I really enjoy the friendships I have developed through this project and look forward to more opportunities to actually meet some of the people I converse with online and via text regularly. Pretty cool hobby we have all got ourselves in!
A few pictures:
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=86509&d=1527783143https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=86510&d=1527783153https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=86508&d=1527783130
wareaglescott
08-27-2018, 09:48 AM
Have not updated in a while.
Currently at 5600 miles on the Cobra. It continues to run great and no problems with the Coyote. Love the reliability, power and user friendliness.
I have had two small issues lately.
1. My side pipes end up drooping down over time and end up quite low. I really am not loving the header to j-pipe to sidepipe setup. Had I to do it over again I certainly would not elect to use the J-pipes. Even with my additional support at the front I previously documented the pipes seem to rotate down a bit at the ball cup end of the J-pipe where it meets the sidepipe. It is an easy 5 minute fix per side to loosen the two bolts, realign and retighten. Not a huge deal but I thought worth mentioning.
2. Whitby painted my car and attached the hood scoop. Never paid much attention to the nuts and bolts they used or gave it much thought. Lifted the hood recently and noticed one of the nuts had disappeared. Checked all the other and had quite a few that were lose. Applied some thread locker to them all and should be good to go now. That was an item I added to my yearly maintenance list.
Another item of interest concerning my shifter that I have documented about in the build being from my dads Air Force Jet. I knew that came out of his plane sometime in 67 or 68. I had reason to be looking through his flight logbooks the other day and came across the flight that had the maintenance issue with the stick that caused it to be removed. That was May 12, 1968 at Hill AFB in Utah. Glad he kept such great logs and now I can add that to the story of knowing exactly when it came out. He was actually on a cross country flight from California on his way to see my mom in Colorado and had to land short in Utah. My mom told me she remembered he never made it to see her that trip and she knew it was because the control stick issue. That helped me track down the exact flight. The stick always gets noticed when people ask about the car so I will enjoy having that piece of info. Pretty cool it has been out of the jet for over 50 years and is still finding a use. Also the sunglasses I use to drive the car with are his old Air Force sunglasses which are also over 50 years old.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=92052&d=1535380959
I have previously mentioned my 911 project. Starting to get more serious with that after driving it around the last few months and doing some small projects. I had the same artist that drew up my concept drawing for the Cobra do one for the 911. You will recognize a similar color scheme. If there is any interest here is a link to that build thread. Plan to really start tearing it apart next month and updating that thread regularly.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/1005131-wareaglescotts-79-sc-build-thread.html
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=92051&d=1535380233
Jeff Kleiner
08-27-2018, 03:26 PM
...I have previously mentioned my 911 project. Starting to get more serious with that after driving it around the last few months and doing some small projects. I had the same artist that drew up my concept drawing for the Cobra do one for the 911. You will recognize a similar color scheme. If there is any interest here is a link to that build thread. Plan to really start tearing it apart next month and updating that thread regularly.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/1005131-wareaglescotts-79-sc-build-thread.html
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=92051&d=1535380233
Sure, it's a great color scheme so why not! I'm afraid that some of the Porsche purists will turn up their noses though ;) (Heck, the vintage Corvette crowd would have already tarred and feathered you just on the basis of the rendering alone!)
I'm going to bookmark your build link and follow along.
Jeff
wareaglescott
08-27-2018, 04:40 PM
Ya Jeff there is a split group over on the Porsche forum. Lots of traditionalists and lots of guys like me that like to modify. To each his own is what I say.
stevant
08-27-2018, 06:07 PM
I think it looks great Scott!!
Dave Howard
08-27-2018, 07:43 PM
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Currently at 5600 miles on the Cobra. It continues to run great and no problems with the Coyote. Love the reliability, power and user friendliness.
I have had two small issues lately.
1. My side pipes end up drooping down over time and end up quite low. I really am not loving the header to j-pipe to sidepipe setup. Had I to do it over again I certainly would not elect to use the J-pipes. Even with my additional support at the front I previously documented the pipes seem to rotate down a bit at the ball cup end of the J-pipe where it meets the sidepipe. It is an easy 5 minute fix per side to loosen the two bolts, realign and retighten. Not a huge deal but I thought worth mentioning
I changed from J-pipe to the Stainless Headers shortly after they became available. Main reason was the incredibly poor flow characteristics and restrictions caused be the J-pipes. 92073 This was causing me to loose sleep at night. They are now offered direct from FFR. Treat yourself to an early Christmas present.
2bking
08-27-2018, 10:14 PM
I haven't seen any dyno results between J-pipes and the full flow Stainless headers but do have some seat of pants experience. J-pipes are very restrictive. I too recommend the Stainless headers.
Jeff Kleiner
08-28-2018, 05:28 AM
I haven't seen any dyno results between J-pipes and the full flow Stainless headers but do have some seat of pants experience. J-pipes are very restrictive. I too recommend the Stainless headers.
After having done several Coyote powered cars with 4 into 4s I was kind of unimpressed by the configuration and obvious restrictions of the J-pipe setup when I had one in for body & paint recently. I noticed a tremendous difference in sound between the J pipes and 4 into 4s as well.
Jeff
wareaglescott
08-28-2018, 01:18 PM
After having done several Coyote powered cars with 4 into 4s I was kind of unimpressed by the configuration and obvious restrictions of the J-pipe setup when I had one in for body & paint recently. I noticed a tremendous difference in sound between the J pipes and 4 into 4s as well.
Jeff
I don't feel I am lacking power although I don't doubt the other configuration would give me more. With that being said seeing that I can barely even get a wrench on some of the header bolts I have zero desire to swap them out. Certainly for anyone reading this planning a future build that would be the way to go. I will just continue to adjust mine periodically as needed.
wareaglescott
10-02-2018, 08:14 AM
5755 miles
Welds on the J-pipe failed for the 2nd time causing an exhaust leak.
The engine seemed to be a little off so I sent a data log to Lund racing who did my tune and their analysis showed an exhaust leak on the drivers side upstream of the O2 sensor. Sure enough they nailed that diagnosis. Fascinates me that the data shows stuff like that. This pipe pictured had previously broke and been rewelded.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=94550&d=1538485457
As a reminder I have welded in the Flowmaster slimline mufflers into the side pipes. They are quite a bit heavier than the stock pipes. I made some supports I documented in post 654.
Seems like the weight may still be to much for the structural limits of the J-pipes. If I had it to do over again I would definitely start with 4 into 4 headers vs my shorty header/ j-pipe set up.
I have replaced the broken J-pipe with a new one and it is good for now. Feel like this will happen again eventually. Considering a change to better headers and eliminating the J-pipe but really unsure about getting the existing headers out and the new ones in without pulling the motor out at least part way to access the bolts and I really don't want to get into that right now. Probably will go that route next time they break.
If you are reading this and are planning a build I would recommend avoiding the J-pipe.
Jeff Kleiner
10-02-2018, 10:18 AM
If you are reading this and are planning a build I would recommend avoiding the J-pipe.
I was shocked at how obviously restrictive the J pipes (they really ought to call them "L" pipes because of the abrupt and pinched 90 degree turn) the first time I got a Coyote car in with that setup. Also noticed how much different the sound was in comparison to 4 into 4 Coyotes...not in a good way. Of course it's easy for me to spend someone else's money ;)
No offense intended but that weld is not exactly stellar. Are you sure that stainless rod was used?
Good luck Scott!
Jeff
wareaglescott
10-02-2018, 12:04 PM
I was shocked at how obviously restrictive the J pipes (they really ought to call them "L" pipes because of the abrupt and pinched 90 degree turn) the first time I got a Coyote car in with that setup. Also noticed how much different the sound was in comparison to 4 into 4 Coyotes...not in a good way. Of course it's easy for me to spend someone else's money ;)
No offense intended but that weld is not exactly stellar. Are you sure that stainless rod was used?
Good luck Scott!
Jeff
That weld was an emergency roadside repair from a local that happened to save my bacon when it broke the first time and I was stranded. The welder never claimed to be a great welder but did what he could to get me on the road and home again. I didn't really care how it looked either as long as it worked. When that happened I got a second set of J-pipes with the intention of swapping them out. As it was working good I just left it as is. Now that it is broken I have put the new one into service. Will see what happens with that.
I understand it is restrictive and the performance gain would be better with a different setup. However I have never felt lacking for power and the cost and pain in the rear factor to swap the headers with the limited access to the header bolts has me not all that excited to undertake it. If the new ones break I suspect I will have to go that route.
Any desire to come to Alabama for the weekend Jeff? LOL
Dave Howard
10-02-2018, 03:01 PM
After having done several Coyote powered cars with 4 into 4s I was kind of unimpressed by the configuration and obvious restrictions of the J-pipe setup when I had one in for body & paint recently. I noticed a tremendous difference in sound between the J pipes and 4 into 4s as well.
Jeff
I was also upset during my build in 2012 with how restrictive the J's are. Fortunately, Stainless Header started to offer the 4x1x4 header for the Coyote/MkIV. I threw down the $$$ for a set and never looked back. They are beautifully constructed but unfortunately hard to see once the body is on.
Jazzman
10-02-2018, 10:55 PM
Come on WarEagle, pry open that wallet!! :cool: You will love a set of 4 into 4 stainless headers. Look great, sound great, Don't break!! Replacing them won't be a lot of fun, but at least you will only have to do it once, and you have that nice pair of lifts to get to it easily. :cool::cool:
wareaglescott
03-05-2019, 01:58 PM
Continuing to enjoy the car. Up to 6548 miles. No major issues.
I installed a new alternator today. It is a M-8600-M50BALT from Ford performance. I previously thought I had been having an issue with a squeaky belt and have replaced mine twice now. Turns out is was the alternator going bad. Got in contact with Ford performance and they sent me out a new one and I am shipping the bad one back to them. When I took the belt off and turned the alternator by hand I could hear the noise and obviously it was amplified when it was turning at engine speeds. New one installed and tested and everything is working as it should. Glad to have that taken care of and am ready for some spring weather and plenty of driving in the near future.
In other new I am knee deep in my 1979 911 rebuild. Almost 200 hours of labor in. (I am keeping track this time as many people asked how long the Cobra took and I really had no idea on hours) The car is completely stripped down and away at the painter for a while. I am now working on the engine doing some upgrades and reconditioning.
Boydster
03-05-2019, 04:52 PM
Wareaglescott's first post in his build thread...
"I have absolutely zero experience doing anything like this."
"I have zero experience with a project of this magnitude."
"There is no way I could do this without all the information I have learned from the forum."
Then, in his last post, admittedly a few years later...
"I am knee deep in my 1979 911 rebuild."
"The car is completely stripped down and away at the painter for a while. I am now working on the engine doing some upgrades and reconditioning."
You've come a long way, Scott. Aint being a mechanic fun?!?! ;)
wareaglescott
03-05-2019, 05:16 PM
Wareaglescott's first post in his build thread...
"I have absolutely zero experience doing anything like this."
"I have zero experience with a project of this magnitude."
"There is no way I could do this without all the information I have learned from the forum."
Then, in his last post, admittedly a few years later...
"I am knee deep in my 1979 911 rebuild."
"The car is completely stripped down and away at the painter for a while. I am now working on the engine doing some upgrades and reconditioning."
You've come a long way, Scott. Aint being a mechanic fun?!?! ;)
Ha thanks man. If you read the first post on the porsche forum build thread it reads pretty much the same as the first post here. Difference this time is I have the confidence to know it will work out in the end vs last time when I was scared to death I would end up with a non functioning pile of parts!!
Porsche thread in case anyone is interested:
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/1005131-wareaglescotts-79-sc-build-thread.html
Boydster
03-05-2019, 06:10 PM
Now they're just gonna be non-functioning German parts! "Where's the damn lichtmaschine?!?!"
Seriously. You've built a beautiful, powerful machine and I have no doubt your 911 will be the same if not better. Now we're gonna get you wrenching on some freight dogs... ;)
wareaglescott
05-01-2019, 10:32 AM
Non Cobra update.
My 911 project is coming along. The Porsche forum is running a build thread contest. If anyone is willing to go over and vote for me I would appreciate it.
I am also wareaglescott over there.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/off-topic-discussions/1028210-diy-build-contest-top-15-vote-here.html
GoDadGo
05-01-2019, 11:04 AM
The Vote Has Been Cast Brother Scott!
Good Luck!
wareaglescott
05-02-2019, 04:51 AM
Appreciate the votes. Thanks guys
Joecobr
05-02-2019, 06:40 AM
If you haven’t already, look up singervehicledesign.com for some inspiration on redone 911’s. Amazing!
wareaglescott
05-02-2019, 01:17 PM
If you haven’t already, look up singervehicledesign.com for some inspiration on redone 911’s. Amazing!
I am quite familiar with them. Those are the dream! Out of my league.
cv2065
05-02-2019, 11:52 PM
Gave you a vote as well. Good luck!
extradc
05-06-2019, 02:20 PM
Warscotteagle, you are my inspiration. I have zero mechanical training (like when you started this project) and, I just bought my kit. I hope mine looks half as good as yours.
wareaglescott
05-06-2019, 04:39 PM
Warscotteagle, you are my inspiration. I have zero mechanical training (like when you started this project) and, I just bought my kit. I hope mine looks half as good as yours.
Appreciate the kind words. I had hoped my build thread would speak to others who have never attempted this sort of thing before either. With the help of the collective group of people on the forum you can build a great car!
wareaglescott
07-24-2019, 07:07 AM
Rolled over 7500 miles this morning.
Car continues to be a dream. Really not much new to report. Runs flawlessly. No new issues or fixes to discuss at this time. No real plans to make any changes soon. I have been keeping busy on my 1979 911 project so that has reduced my mileage accumulation on the Cobra a bit. Still try to get it out for about 50-100 miles a week. Still find myself driving at times with the biggest, goofiest smile on my face and almost in disbelief I actually went from know nothing beginner to a completed build. Never would have made it without all the great people on the forum.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=111161&d=1563969653
edwardb
07-24-2019, 09:53 PM
Nice milestone! Good to hear all is still working well. I'm a couple thousand behind you. Similar story. Working perfectly. ;)
Vspeeds
07-25-2019, 12:17 AM
Good to hear that everything is working well as I copied a lot of things you and edwardb did. And thank you for sharing your build. Your thread really helped me especially with your index in post #1.
wareaglescott
07-25-2019, 05:58 AM
Good to hear that everything is working well as I copied a lot of things you and edwardb did. And thank you for sharing your build. Your thread really helped me especially with your index in post #1.
Glad the index was useful. I spent so much time looking for stuff in other build threads I thought it would be helpful.
Jazzman
07-25-2019, 11:04 AM
I am waaaaaay behind you! I rolled over 2000 before God turned on the afterburners here in Scottsdale. Now Fliptop is all packed away for at least another 7-8 weeks. I can't wait to pull her back out and drive her again! Glad you are having no problems. Proves you did a good job and the product/support in the build process was good too.
I can't remember: where is your build thread for the Porsche 911?
wareaglescott
11-21-2019, 05:10 PM
Cobras slightly snooty European brother decided to come back home today after a long trip to the paint shop!
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=117852&d=1574374131
Jeff Kleiner
11-21-2019, 05:52 PM
Very nice Scott! They're going to make an awesome pair...now for the trifecta get that Bronco from your neighbor!
Jeff
Straversi
11-21-2019, 06:16 PM
Now the fun starts. I’m jealous.
-Steve
edwardb
11-21-2019, 06:37 PM
Very nice. Great to see you finally have it back. Good luck getting it back together. I mean that in the most positive way possible. :o
wareaglescott
11-22-2019, 06:09 AM
Very nice Scott! They're going to make an awesome pair...now for the trifecta get that Bronco from your neighbor!
Jeff
Thanks Jeff. That is actually my buddies 73 Bronco. He came over to help me push. I enjoy all the fun in it without the agony of ownership. haha
Jeff Kleiner
11-22-2019, 06:24 AM
Thanks Jeff. That is actually my buddies 73 Bronco. He came over to help me push. I enjoy all the fun in it without the agony of ownership. haha
;)
Tell your buddy I like it! I love the old Broncos and did a glass body one about 4 years ago:
https://scontent.fphl2-3.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/s960x960/12493941_821489734640403_424269597439048835_o.jpg? _nc_cat=104&_nc_oc=AQkcbCKdCWT-vUywN3qcbtVTVZImAbYvBFXH-m6tDhmxnrCcNSq-UPGz0PEvK-ZIOaU&_nc_ht=scontent.fphl2-3.fna&oh=f89a67ed8348bb8c9cad4fe34c816371&oe=5E5438B2
https://scontent.fphl2-3.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/p720x720/77001641_2394732580649436_7500263438673772544_o.jp g?_nc_cat=109&_nc_oc=AQlmK2Kw5R2IGa_o4pR_Jh-rrLZL-ofIPlF2lMaSUi2P52SUQWBnAx0ZFr3_70X_xgU&_nc_ht=scontent.fphl2-3.fna&oh=552d588adbd2fb3f5aa1afc150db3961&oe=5E51D864
What's next on the Porsche? Engine ready? What will the order of reassembly be from here?
Jeff
GoDadGo
11-22-2019, 08:53 AM
He Who Dies With The Most Toys Wins!
Boydster
11-22-2019, 09:43 AM
I remember seeing the shell sitting next to the booth at Whitby's, looking solid and about ready to go in. Glad to see it's home!
delta0014
11-22-2019, 10:07 AM
Looks awesome
Now the fun really starts.
delta0014
11-22-2019, 10:08 AM
;)
https://scontent.fphl2-3.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/p720x720/77001641_2394732580649436_7500263438673772544_o.jp g?_nc_cat=109&_nc_oc=AQlmK2Kw5R2IGa_o4pR_Jh-rrLZL-ofIPlF2lMaSUi2P52SUQWBnAx0ZFr3_70X_xgU&_nc_ht=scontent.fphl2-3.fna&oh=552d588adbd2fb3f5aa1afc150db3961&oe=5E51D864
What's next on the Porsche? Engine ready? What will the order of reassembly be from here?
Jeff
I love this Bronco. What year is it?
I want.....
Jeff Kleiner
11-22-2019, 10:39 AM
I love this Bronco. What year is it?
I want.....
The chassis is old, '67 I think, with all new Duff suspension, Ford 9 inch in back and Dana 44 in front, big discs all around, EFI 5.0 with electronic controlled AOD. Body is an old fiberglass tub of undetermined origin with fenders, door cutouts and hood from other manufacturers (that made for some challenges in fitting and matching) and a new steel tailgate.
Sorry for the hijack Scott :)
Jeff
DoogieT
11-23-2019, 01:06 PM
Hi, I have a Mk4 (purchased) turned into a race car but for the side impact safety feature of crossbars. In your Fred Flintstone picture, alongside your left leg you see the crossbars. Will they be covered by the body? I'm thinking the reason I don't see mine is because they are below or inside the body panels. Any suggestions how to retrofit cross bars higher in the driver door for side impact?
Doug Tally
dougtally@gmail.com
312.282.4179
Detroit
wareaglescott
03-23-2020, 11:45 AM
Been a long time since I updated this thread.
The Cobra has about 8500 miles on it and continues to bring a smile to my face with every drive. Only repetitive issue is those darn J-pipes to side pipes and the need to adjust them periodically. Also I had the flow master slimline muffers welded into the pipes and they were great at first but I swear they have gotten quite a bit louder over time. Was not expecting that but I guess it happens. The noise level is approaching unenjoyable again. I am still diligently working away on my 911 build. Below is a YouTube update on the progress. Whitby turned out another spectacular paint job for me. Once I finish this up I intend to address the side pipes on the Cobra with probably something completely new from the headers on back! Anyways if anyone is locked in due to the virus scare and wants to watch a 2 minute youtube on the 911 build here it is! Check me out on instagram @scottsrides for numerous build updates and Cobra action.
https://youtu.be/8tHllveQ4zM
edit - hey I just noticed that is my 2000 post. What an awesome community we have here. I never could have built this car from my beginner status without the help I got here and continue to enjoy the friendships and interactions with those I have met here! Cheers to everyone!
You need one of these to round-out the fleet with respect to paint color.
124646
"Carpets are dirty ...time to break out the war eagle."
dncharo
03-23-2020, 03:47 PM
Hi Scott,
Thanks for the update. The 911 looks amazing, I love the seats!
I'm sorry to hear about the flowmaster slimlines because I actually just had those welded into my side pipes last weekend... I was hoping that they would last forever.
I was actually just reading through your build thread and saw that you had them ceramic coated. Can I ask where you got them done and if that has held up? Any regrets there? I've read about jet-hot, but they are located far from me and I'm wondering if a local place using cerakote will be just as good.
Thanks! -David
wareaglescott
03-23-2020, 08:18 PM
Hi Scott,
Thanks for the update. The 911 looks amazing, I love the seats!
I'm sorry to hear about the flowmaster slimlines because I actually just had those welded into my side pipes last weekend... I was hoping that they would last forever.
I was actually just reading through your build thread and saw that you had them ceramic coated. Can I ask where you got them done and if that has held up? Any regrets there? I've read about jet-hot, but they are located far from me and I'm wondering if a local place using cerakote will be just as good.
Thanks! -David
I had them coated at a place in Atlanta area. Have held up just fine. No regrets with the coating. I took some decibel readings when I first put them in. I really need to take some more for comparison. I think I will do that.
wareaglescott
04-30-2020, 04:11 PM
Finished the 911 Project. Whitby did a great job on paint for me again!
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=127509&d=1588280865
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=127508&d=1588280837
https://youtu.be/SWbgJxpM2HU
Straversi
04-30-2020, 06:07 PM
Congratulations, Scott. I enjoyed watching the 911 go together on Instagram. I thought building a FFR from the ground up was a challenge but stripping down a 41 year old car and putting it back together, better than before is a huge accomplishment. Countless people have the big dream but get stalled or discouraged and end up with garage full of parts. Your organization and honesty about budget and time should help many people who might consider such a project. I know you are proud and you should be.
-Steve
FlyFactoryFive
04-30-2020, 06:23 PM
Beautiful! Again!
Looks great. I enjoy your daily instagram video's. I'm hoping you're starting a new project soon to keep the videos coming? :)
wareaglescott
05-01-2020, 10:05 AM
Looks great. I enjoy your daily instagram video's. I'm hoping you're starting a new project soon to keep the videos coming? :)
Thanks!
Ill keep the instagram content coming. I want to do another project just not quite sure what yet. Honestly a little burnt out right now so will take some time off and Im sure I have a couple months of tweaking on the 911 still.
First thing I need to accomplish is a second lift in my upstairs garage so I can free up my workshop space!
wareaglescott
07-03-2020, 07:37 AM
Continuing to enjoy the Cobra. Passed 9000 miles the other day.
Also continuing to enjoy building things. I think I like building as much as driving. I have my next project lined up. The garages are getting full. First order of business was to create an additional parking spot so I can free up my workshop. Added another 4 post lift to the upstairs garage. Will move the old 911 upstairs and have an opening in my shop space.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=131043&d=1593779406
My next project is a 1973 Datsun 240z. This is one of my best friends cars. It was actually his dads. It has been in some sort of state of restoration since 2001! He simply does not have the money to pay somebody labor rates to finish it. The paint and body is done. I am going to finish getting it all back together for him for whatever the reamaining parts cost. I know nothing about these cars so it should be fun. At some point they put a V8 in it. This works out good for both of us because he can finally get his car done for cheap and I can help my buddy out and have something to work on without it costing me anything. That way I can save and continue to look for my next real project. He lives out of state from me. Hoping to have it down here next week to get started.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=131044&d=1593779415
Build thread for the 240Z? If so, where?
PeteMeindl
07-03-2020, 09:18 AM
That's great, Scott! You're a nice guy - and that project looks like a lot of fun!
Railroad
07-03-2020, 09:51 AM
Scott,
Nice cars. I am shopping for a drive on lift. Do you have any advice for getting a good deal on price and delivery?
I have a swing arm, but need some parking room and like a drive on for easier access.
wareaglescott
07-05-2020, 08:03 PM
Build thread for the 240Z? If so, where?
Not yet. I will post if I find a place to do one
wareaglescott
07-05-2020, 08:05 PM
Scott,
Nice cars. I am shopping for a drive on lift. Do you have any advice for getting a good deal on price and delivery?
I have a swing arm, but need some parking room and like a drive on for easier access.
I am very pleased with Bendpak. They will deliver for free but you have to get it off the truck yourself which is tricky if you dont have a large forklift. I elected to have them sent to a shipping depot and had a buddy with a trailer help me pick it up.
GoDadGo
07-06-2020, 10:47 AM
My next project is a 1973 Datsun 240z. This is one of my best friends cars. It was actually his dads. It has been in some sort of state of restoration since 2001! He simply does not have the money to pay somebody labor rates to finish it. The paint and body is done. I am going to finish getting it all back together for him for whatever the reamaining parts cost. I know nothing about these cars so it should be fun. At some point they put a V8 in it. This works out good for both of us because he can finally get his car done for cheap and I can help my buddy out and have something to work on without it costing me anything. That way I can save and continue to look for my next real project. He lives out of state from me. Hoping to have it down here next week to get started.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=131044&d=1593779415
Scott,
My cousin has a 260-Z that would be a good donor if you need parts.
He also has an extra engine out of a 240 with Weber Side Drafts and 5-Speed out of a 280-ZX that he'd like to sell.
The car and extra driveline are both located in Lafayette Louisiana.
Let me know if these items might be of interest to you.
Steve
PS: I love these cars, especially when properly stuffed with a SBC, but we all know I love anything that is improperly stuffed with a SBC.
wareaglescott
01-28-2021, 04:19 PM
Passed 10,000 miles on the Cobra yesterday. Running great. Very few issues. Was having a little grinding on the 4th to 3rd downshift intermittently. Changed the fluid and hasn’t happened again so hopefully that is not an issue. We will see. Continuing to add cars to the garage so I’m not putting as many miles on as I used to but still really enjoying it when I get out. Can usually find about 1 day a week through the winter to drive it a little.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=141575&d=1611861672
Had to abort on the Z project I previously posted about. My friend just didn’t have the money to make it happen.
I have gone rougue and bought a ‘67 Camaro I am going to resto mod with a roadster shop chassis, rear wheel tubs, crate LS3 / T56 drivetrain. Will start a build thread somewhere. Will post when I do and as always you can see lots of coverage of the build in my Instagram daily story @scottsrides
My goal for this build was to get a car that didn’t need paint and body. This one is quite nice. Paid up for entry cost but figure I will save it on paint and body cost as I still have no desire to do that part myself.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=141572&d=1611861654
Still a Ford guy at heart that just happens to own a Camaro!
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=141573&d=1611861662
David Hodgkins
01-28-2021, 04:33 PM
Scott,
We have an "other cars build thread" forum as part of the off-topic forum:
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/forumdisplay.php?112-Off-Topic-Other-Build-Threads
The posts don't show up on the home page but there are no other restrictions. Feel free to post your Camaro resto-build there if you want.
:)
Jeff Kleiner
01-28-2021, 04:54 PM
Love the plate Scott! I personally have no brand loyalties; Ford, GM, Chrysler or AMC doesn’t matter; I can find something to love about all of ‘em! I’ll look forward to following the Camaro project and good on ya’ for hitting 10K miles! I still have the photo and note you sent me above my desk and look at your car every day :cool:
Cheers,
Jeff
cv2065
01-28-2021, 05:22 PM
Nice Scott. I still miss my 67 sometimes, but I'm sure she's sunning on the beach somewhere in France. Look forward to seeing project.
GoDadGo
01-28-2021, 10:33 PM
https://youtu.be/iEzTO-T9H9o
You Underestimate The Power Of The Dark Side!
Come With Me, It Is The Only Way!
You've Taken The First Step!
It Is Your Destiny!
Go-Vader-Go!
wareaglescott
02-16-2022, 12:53 PM
Been over a year since I updated this thread. Wanted to check in and say hello to everyone.
Still enjoying the Cobra. Luckily the weather is agreeing over the winter and I can continue to get it out on a drive every couple weeks or so.
Pluggin away on the Camaro project. Taking me a long time. Probably have spread myself a little thin with to many cars and other obligations are getting in the way. I am making some progress though.
1967 Camaro, Roadster Shop full chassis , LS3 and T-56
Really enjoying this build but it is complex for me. I am basically just using the original body and some interior parts and everything else is brand new. Should be a real nice driver when complete. Lots more things needing a custom solution than I have experienced before. I seem to go to the shop with the intention of working on something and end up branching off on multiple tangents and finally circling back to the intended topic months later! haha
Hoping to fire this thing up this summer sometime but who knows.
Luckily for me the FFR community continue to be awesome. Paul (EdwardB) who helps us all so much just happens to have an LS3 in his truck build so I have been the lucky benefactor of his stellar advice numerous times on this project as well. Here are a few pics, my trusty pup likes trying to help. Sadly we lost her sister last year but other than that we are doing great.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=162647&d=1645033461
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=162648&d=1645033461
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=162649&d=1645033461
Canyonblue
02-27-2022, 12:38 PM
Nice setup.
I'm interested in what kind of wheels/tires you have on the frame so that it works on your wheel dollies. Looks like a good idea.
I guess you could even use temporary spares if the bolt pattern lines up?
orangecruz
08-05-2022, 02:45 AM
Been over a year since I updated this thread. Wanted to check in and say hello to everyone.
Still enjoying the Cobra. Luckily the weather is agreeing over the winter and I can continue to get it out on a drive every couple weeks or so.
Pluggin away on the Camaro project. Taking me a long time. Probably have spread myself a little thin with to many cars and other obligations are getting in the way. I am making some progress though.
1967 Camaro, Roadster Shop full chassis , LS3 and T-56
Really enjoying this build but it is complex for me. I am basically just using the original body and some interior parts and everything else is brand new. Should be a real nice driver when complete. Lots more things needing a custom solution than I have experienced before. I seem to go to the shop with the intention of working on something and end up branching off on multiple tangents and finally circling back to the intended topic months later! haha
Hoping to fire this thing up this summer sometime but who knows.
Luckily for me the FFR community continue to be awesome. Paul (EdwardB) who helps us all so much just happens to have an LS3 in his truck build so I have been the lucky benefactor of his stellar advice numerous times on this project as well. Here are a few pics, my trusty pup likes trying to help. Sadly we lost her sister last year but other than that we are doing great.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=162647&d=1645033461
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=162648&d=1645033461
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=162649&d=1645033461
Hi Scott
Ive read the whole of the cobra build and honestly wouldn't change a thing , absolutely stunnigncar mate. then went to Pelican and read the 911 again amazing car and what a credit to you both are
congratulations
wareaglescott
09-04-2022, 06:05 AM
Back with another update. Hope everyone is doing well.
Passed 11,000 miles on the Cobra. Still really enjoying it. I am finding now that I have too many cars I am not driving it as much as I used to. However that seems to make me enjoy the Cobra even more when I do get to drive it. I usually take it on a 15-20 mile drive once every week or two. Everything is continuing to work great. Really pleased now about 7 years later that I went with the Coyote. My thought of just having the reliability to jump in and go when I want is working out great.
I did finish my '67 Camaro build and have bout 500 miles on it. Really loving it as well. Has a Roadster shop full chassis, mini tubbed rear end, LS3 with 495hp, T56 and a Ford 9" rear end. Here are a few pics.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=171960&d=1662289143
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=171961&d=1662289143
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=171962&d=1662289143
M. Townsend
09-04-2022, 07:47 PM
Really glad you've shared your journey and love of cars. I'm still in the dreaming/planning stage. However, I have to tell you I have a pic of your Cobra on the desktop background of my computer at work. Some of my coworkers are pretty sure I've gone off the deep end talking about these beastly little dream machines.
Excellent looking Camaro!
Actually, about a year ago I told the missus I wanted to build a car. She was thinking our place would end up looking like the local muffler/tire shop and was a just "a bit negative". So I didn't say anything else for about a week. Then I showed her a pic of your car. Mind changed, all aboard, when can I take a ride in it... Thank You!
wareaglescott
09-17-2022, 05:46 AM
Really glad you've shared your journey and love of cars. I'm still in the dreaming/planning stage. However, I have to tell you I have a pic of your Cobra on the desktop background of my computer at work. Some of my coworkers are pretty sure I've gone off the deep end talking about these beastly little dream machines.
Excellent looking Camaro!
Actually, about a year ago I told the missus I wanted to build a car. She was thinking our place would end up looking like the local muffler/tire shop and was a just "a bit negative". So I didn't say anything else for about a week. Then I showed her a pic of your car. Mind changed, all aboard, when can I take a ride in it... Thank You!
Thank you for the kind words. Good luck with your build!
Redlinejoev
02-13-2023, 10:59 PM
Hi would you mind shating where you got ypour fender badges please?
edwardb
02-14-2023, 06:59 AM
Hi would you mind shating where you got ypour fender badges please?
Scott makes it here occasionally. But I can answer your question. They're from https://www.billetbadges.com/index. I used them on a build as well. Very high quality. But take some time and not cheap. I understand there's some limitation on what they've done in the past for our builds because of trademark/copyright concerns. These are the ones they did for me. But pretty sure they wouldn't make them exactly the same now.
https://hosting.photobucket.com/albums/ab234/edwardb123/Factory%20Five%20Mark%204%20Roadster%20Build/Update%2008152014/.highres/IMG_2687_zpsc31cb647.jpg?width=590&height=370&fit=bounds (https://hosting.photobucket.com/albums/ab234/edwardb123/Factory%20Five%20Mark%204%20Roadster%20Build/Update%2008152014/.highres/IMG_2687_zpsc31cb647.jpg?width=590&height=370&fit=bounds)
wareaglescott
02-14-2023, 01:24 PM
Hi would you mind shating where you got ypour fender badges please?
As Paul stated they no longer make the ones I got due to some copyright issue. Can't really suggest anywhere else that has them.
Redlinejoev
02-17-2023, 02:58 PM
Thanks guys, I'll check out the site and go from there. I appreciate your time very much.
moosestang
07-19-2023, 03:33 PM
Worked on aligning the front this morning. Previously I had set the rear toe and camber.
I purchased some toe plates, a laser level and the Fast Trax 91000 tool with the no lip adapters.
The first issue I had was with the 18" wheels and the fast trax tool at full extension it was just a little short for the adapters to grab the lip of the wheel. I went ahead and made an extension so it would fit out of some spare metal I had. Also to make sure I did not throw off the angle at all I added some shims on the bottom two pieces so everything was equal.
Here is my extension:
http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=59767&d=1476643188
My first step was to use the toe plates and get the toe in set. I knew the other adjustments would change this setting but I wanted to get it close. I was shooting for 1/16" toe in.
Once the toe was close I set the camber at - .5 degrees. Again I knew adjusting the others would throw this off but cycling through camber then caster seemed to get me closer each time to the final settings.
Next I worked on caster. This is a little more tricky. The end of the fast trax tool is angled at 15 degrees. Basically you turn the front of the wheel out 15 degrees. Then set the level to 0 and then turn the front of the wheel in 15 degrees and you can adjust the upper control arms until you get your desired caster angle. With power steering I was shooting for 8 degrees. The problem with the tool end is it is about 3/4" long and trying to judge 15 degrees with any measure of accuracy is difficult. I came up with what I believe was a pretty good system.
First I taped some leftover wood trim on the ends so I could get a little better visual indication of where I was at in relation to straight:
http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=59768&d=1476643202
Here the tool is attached to the wheel. You can see where I added the extension and shims to accommodate the 18" wheels:
http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=59769&d=1476643213
To figure out the 15 degrees I ended up turning the toe plates upside down and placing them along the inside of the wheel. I determined exactly straight by using a fixed point from the frame and measured in both directions. Then I marked that line on the garage floor with a sharpie. Then I got out my angle measuring device and set it up for 15 degrees and marked a line of off the center line 15 degrees in both directions. I marked both of those lines with the sharpie. Then I was able to turn the wheels and measure the resulting distance from the line drawn to the toe plate. I evened it up until the measurement was equal all the way down the line. Here the wheel is turned out. You can see the 3 lines I drew and I am measuring the distance from the toe plate to the 15 degree out line:
http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=59770&d=1476643224
I feel this was as accurate as I could get at home with no advanced equipment. Basically I cycled through toe in, camber, and then caster and each rotation it seemed to get closer and closer to what I was looking for. Since one movement affects the others I think this is the only way to go. It was time consuming but ultimately I think the alignment is quite good. I later validated this with the tracking on my go cart ride. Car tracked perfectly straight with no wandering one way or another. That was a short validation though. I may take the car in for professional alignment once I get it done. I will have to see how it feels and the tires are wearing in the future. Really happy I tried this at home.
I did come across one issue during alignment. I appreciate Jeff Kleiner taking the time for a phone call to help me out mid process. Once again the generosity of this community is spectacular.
To get the 8 degrees of caster on the drivers side I was very close to running out of adjustability on the rear upper control arm. When I got over to the passenger side at first I could only achieve about 6 degrees. Jeff has previously mentioned this possibility and the need to trim the adjustment sleeve a little to make it work. I thought I was going to need to do this on the PS. Turns out when I cycled through the other measurements I was able to achieve 8 degrees without modification. I am essentially at full adjustment though and can go no further. Once I get the body on and the ride height changes I will revisit the alignment and may need to make some further modifications.
After the alignment was done I was ready for my first go cart. I went through and checked all the fluids and greased everything up again. I had a pre go cart checklist to make sure I was ready to go. It was quite exciting pulling it out of the garage with intentions of leaving the driveway for the first time. I was nervous about bottoming out coming off the driveway. That was not a problem. I just took it slow. The car drove beautifully and I couldn't be more pleased. Took my wife on a quick ride also. I cant seem to get the smile off of my face. Really proud to reach this milestone. I am very thankful for all the amazing help I have gotten along the way.
http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=59771&d=1476643236
Here is a quick video:
https://youtu.be/jcIsIWjaveA
Did you get the exhaust from FFR with catalytic converters?