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    That is an extremely shallow pan. With the pickups on the drivers side and the crank rotating in the clockwise direction from the front of the engine perspective this may add to issues with windage and oil frothing. If I were you I think I would look at, at least, putting the scavenge pickups on the passenger side of the pan. Or make the pan deeper and use a windage tray between the pan and crank. Best case is you are giving up performance with this shallow pan, and worst case it could lead to premature engine failure. You may want to talk to the people at Dailey Dry Sump about design and maybe building you a custom pump and pan combo. Their stuff is very compact and relatively reasonably priced.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crash View Post
    That is an extremely shallow pan. With the pickups on the drivers side and the crank rotating in the clockwise direction from the front of the engine perspective this may add to issues with windage and oil frothing. If I were you I think I would look at, at least, putting the scavenge pickups on the passenger side of the pan. Or make the pan deeper and use a windage tray between the pan and crank. Best case is you are giving up performance with this shallow pan, and worst case it could lead to premature engine failure. You may want to talk to the people at Dailey Dry Sump about design and maybe building you a custom pump and pan combo. Their stuff is very compact and relatively reasonably priced.
    The guys that designed the dry sump pan deal in exclusively big horsepower M120 V12s. 1000hp NA ITBs, 1400+hp pro charged, as well as they have their hands in some Pagani Zonda race engines. I have full trust in the stuff they have put together, especially since I will not be pushing this thing nearly as hard as they do! I'll be happy with my little 450-500hp! I regularly talk to the owner of the company, I can express the concerns as he is not by any means a close-minded guy.

    I also think the depth of the pan is very deceiving since the skirt of the block comes down very low. The main caps are 4 bolt plus 2 through the exterior of the block tying them in like a girdle.

    The factory windage tray is a pretty compact, well designed part that sits tight in there. almost tight enough to call it a crank scraper! This was before I pulled the pump out.
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