Wallace18"s 818 Build

[wallace18]

Here is a thread with what I have done so far. I started with a 2002 WRX donor with 276K on it. I lucked out and it had a rebuilt long block in the trunk. Lot's of this was on the working on the donor thread but I wanted one spot just for my build. Here is the car and coming apart. I hope you enjoy it. :cool:

P.S. I have a 33 build thread also.

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[wallace18]

Here is the depowered rack. I replaced the boots and tierod ends. Also the front and rear wheelbearings, rotors, pads, balljoints, control arm bushings, CV boots and painted everything after clean up. I used Eastwood products mostly.


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[wallace18]

On the engine I used the CCR longblock that came in the trunk. I got with AJW and they hooked me up with a larger turbo, intercooler, injectors, S/S headers, boost controller, New clutch, P/P, Flywheel, Intake hoses and cold air package. I cleaned and painted stuff as well as replaced all hoses, Tstat and anything that needed to be replaced. With 276K that was a lot of stuff. The trans I had rebuilt with a Cusco diff.

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[wallace18]

Here is everything I have ready so far. I have all the donor parts listed on the FFR site here in this picture. I laid them out as if I am waiting on the kit. I am due to get it on 8/3/13. Meanwhile I go to pick up my 33 kit on Monday 2/4/13. This will keep me busy till 818 time comes.

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[longislandwrx]

Did you already have a block off plate and locking collar for the trans?

[Samiam1017]

What do you have two garages one for the dirty work and one for the clean. That trans looks great. Did you blast it then clear it?

[wallace18]

Did you already have a block off plate and locking collar for the trans?

No that is just duct tape. I am waiting for the blockoff plate from the kit.

[wallace18]

What do you have two garages one for the dirty work and one for the clean. That trans looks great. Did you blast it then clear it? No I do the blasting outside. I blasted the trans and then used Eastwood aluma blast paint. It is great looking stuff. I used it some on engine parts as well.

[wallace18]

I made it to FFR on 2/4/13 and got my 33 kit. Both 818s and r were out for testing. I was bummed I could not see one in person. I did see a 818 chassis with seats. I'll post its picture later. All the FFR guys say it is coming along fine but still much to do. More news will come in a week or so.

[Mechie3]

Looking forward to the pic.

[MPTech]

WOW! You are WAY TOO organized and clean for a car guy!
The parts look fantastic!

What are you plans for the 33? (I'm amazed that you are going to build '33 while you wait for your 818).
Very cool! :cool:

[NicksPapaw]

I want to officially say that I am jealous! :) There, I said it. Oh, one more thing. WOW I am impressed. You have done some beautiful work.

[wallace18]

Well I made it to and from FFR fine. Here is the only 818 photo I could get. The cars were out for testing and this was under a large shelf. There is not much to see we have not already seen. But it was nice to touch the frame in person

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[longislandwrx]

I am interested to know if the cars will use power brakes or not... Seems like the 818R they are testing does not but this picture has a booster.

[Mechie3]

I think in the go kart videos the booster was simply capped off. It's likely there just to reuse the stock stuff. I'm not knowledgable enough to know how to remove the boost and make it full manual myself without going to a whole new assembly.

[RM1SepEx]

I think we will end up unboosted with a proportioning valve

boosted will be verrrrry touchy with so much less weight and the bias will be all wrong.

[Xusia]

I think we will end up unboosted with a proportioning valve...

I sure hope so. Despite it being the norm for most cars, I'm not really a fan of power brakes. Too hard to feel what's going on, and too easy to apply to much (which is not so much of an issue with ABS, but still...).

[RM1SepEx]

My plan: no brake booster, no ABS, depowered steering rack

I want maximum "feedback" like when I autocross my Rotax DD2 kart!

[wallace18]

I finalized my 818S order today. I added powercoat frame, all the carbon bits and the shift knob. I go on 8/19/13 to pick it up. I got to get my 33 kit done before that so I have room in my shop. Though it is great to have these kind of problems. LOL.

[Mechie3]

Indeed. Lol.

[metalmaker12]

Easy to make Manuel brakes, I will post when I do so

[wildbill]

Easy to make Manuel brakes, I will post when I do so


Who is this Manuel fellow you speak of?:confused::p

[metalmaker12]

Who is this Manuel fellow you speak of?:confused::p

Lol yea auto correct hates me

[wallace18]

Well I am heading to FFR on Sunday the 18th to get my 818S. My 33 is 99.5% done. I hope they have some of the gremlins worked out on my frame.

[wallace18]

I got an email from Joe Scott at FFR. My frame is ready and I am a go for pickup on Monday. I'll set sail from Florida on Saturday night. Wish me luck.

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[wallace18]

Here is some pics of the 818 Boyd tank I got today. Note the fittings, sender, fuel pump and filler all at the top. I went with their 33 tank on my 33 and I am very pleased.

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[metalmaker12]

Very nice and if I had the extra coin right now I would be getting one to. I need to get other things

[blueoval_bowtie_guy]

Safe travels Tom!

Really hope I can hook up with you once I get moved down to Florida next month. Moving to Beverly Hills (about 45 minutes from Ocala, so I should be about 1 1/2 hours from you.

Steve

[AJW Performance]

Looking good Tom. I will be down in Florida this October I plan on reaching out to you.

[longislandwrx]

Did you get the same deal on the 33 tank as the 818?

[wallace18]

Did you get the same deal on the 33 tank as the 818?

My 33 tank was carb. So it was less exspensive.

[wallace18]

Well I safely made it to FFR and picked up my 818S. I know it has been said before but, the car is awesome in person. Pictures do it no justice IMO. I met Dave Smith and had a short talk with him. Truly a car guy through and through. Tony was very helpful with hints as he was with my 33. Dave you have a great crew working for you. Everthing fit in my 6x12 enclosed trailer. Unfortunatly my camera died after one picture. I made it home last night and will unpack later today. I must go get my 33 from the pinstriper today before it rains. :cool:

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[Frank818]

Congrats for the pick-up! :)
Not so much for the camera though. lolll So that's the one and only picture.
What have you put underneath the car? I guess it's on rollers or something?

[blueoval_bowtie_guy]

I look forward to seeing your 818 in person! Less than 6 weeks and we'll be living in Florida!

[metalmaker12]

awesome!!!!!

[wallace18]

Congrats for the pick-up! :)
Not so much for the camera though. lolll So that's the one and only picture.
What have you put underneath the car? I guess it's on rollers or something?

Those are 2 new sets of the old style metal shelves you put together. I visited my brother in Pa. on the way home. He was going to throw them away. I said I'll take them. I am going to start inventory this weekend. I may not start the build for a few weeks. I am installing a 4 post lift in my barn to store my 33 up and out of the way when I am not driving it. I can park the 818 under it later also.

[wallace18]

Well the last 2 days I have installed a 4 post lift in my extra 12x24 bay. This way I can store my 33 and still have room for boxes and ect. from the 818 kit. I am done with inventory. Lots back ordered! I was able to unload everything by myself with the help of a furniture dolley. Hope to start on the kit later this week. Grass needs mowing. Ugh!

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[wleehendrick]

Wow.. you've had your kit for a year and a half? Or, maybe just the date on your camera is off ;)

Seriously, though... I wish I had the same space and resources for my build.

[wallace18]

Wow.. you've had your kit for a year and a half? Or, maybe just the date on your camera is off ;)

Seriously, though... I wish I had the same space and resources for my build.

Yea date is off for sure. It is a cheapo camera and I have to change the batteries often. I forget to change the date. I am debating using the stock harness or getting an ECU from Wayne. I'll make a decision soon enough.

[Frank818]

You unloaded by yourself. That's my dream, as I have no idea how I'll do it. I plan on renting a 20' truck for the kit + AJW donor boxes, but I have no idea yet how I'll unload. lolll

Nice 4 post lift though!

[jayguy]

Nice life, but I think you have it backwards. Keep the 33 on the ground so you can drive it a lot, and put some boards across the lift to use as a storage shelf for the parts. :)

Your 33 is so gorgeous, can't wait to see the 818 finished.

[RM1SepEx]

My body parts are on the lift with some boards and plywood to leave room under the lift for any one of my 11 cars... Now of course I need to do an oil change and I could really use the lift!

[metalmaker12]

Yea date is off for sure. It is a cheapo camera and I have to change the batteries often. I forget to change the date. I am debating using the stock harness or getting an ECU from Wayne. I'll make a decision soon enough.

It looks like I may be the first costumer to actually install the factory harness, this weekend is d day.

[longislandwrx]

Good luck, i'll be there soon. looking forward to hearing how it goes

[metalmaker12]

I will be starting on it sat or Sunday morning. It is going to be a slow go since I am going to try to really make sure I can figure it all out correctly. Stay tuned!!!

[longislandwrx]

where do you plan on mounting the ecu/fuse block/engine fuses? or do you need to layout the harness first

[wallace18]

where do you plan on mounting the ecu/fuse block/engine fuses? or do you need to layout the harness first I will layout the harness and let that dictate locations.

[Samiam1017]

Does the build manual have recommendations on fuse box and harrness layout?

[RM1SepEx]

the manual has it attached to the frame above the fuel tank behind the seats... Pages 230 - 235

[wallace18]

I have coated my front alum. with Lizard skin sound deadner and ceramic heat shield. I'll be using that on most panels as well. I attached some of the panels with S/S 10-32 button head screws. Some with rivets. I painted all the bare metal with Eastwood Rust Encapsulater then Extreme chassis gloss black. I got as far as the lower and upper control arms. Only slight mods needed to fit. I ended up ordering the ECU and harness from verycoolparts. Wayne makes a good product, plus he is a great guy to talk to. Here is my reason for going this way. I can easly mod my program, easier plug and play, less wires to deal with, cleaner install and I don't need to hire a tuner for the reflash. In the long run well worth the price IMO. I hope to get more done this week. So far this is easier than the 33 kit IMO. But is just as much fun!
Check out my engine turned trans cover.

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[Frank818]

So you sprayed both coatings?
With a gun or in spray cans? If it comes in spray cans too...

They claim heat reduction by 30F+ and noise by 12dB+.

Now I wonder if the fatmat is better. Of course, they say 3x better than any leader. :) But no numbers. Maybe using both is also an option.

[blueoval_bowtie_guy]

I used fatmat on my Cobra. It is under all the carpet. Not sure how well it holds the heat out - foot boxes in Cobras get wicked hot even with Cobra Earl's powered vents. The first summer mine was on the road my wife and I had to wear ear plugs (no carpet and no fatmat). After the fatmat and carpet were installed, we've never worn ear plugs again.

[wallace18]

So you sprayed both coatings?
With a gun or in spray cans? If it comes in spray cans too...

They claim heat reduction by 30F+ and noise by 12dB+.

Now I wonder if the fatmat is better. Of course, they say 3x better than any leader. :) But no numbers. Maybe using both is also an option.
I use a paint roller. First the sound proofing then the heat barrier. I bought the 2 gal. cans. I will be able to do 3 cars with that much. I also use Eastwood Thermo- Coustic sound deadner sheets on the inside and inside floor. I did this on a Vette and my 33 and had great results. It adds about 100lbs when you add every thing up . Very worthwhile IMO.

[riptide motorsport]

Cool beans.......let the games begin!!!!!!!:o

[wallace18]

I am having issues with the front sway bar. The mount holes do not line up and the link rods are way too long. Maybe the FFR update I will get today will explain.

My 33 is in the voting for POM (picture of the month) please vote for me if you are so inclined. Thanks. T.W.

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[Racebrewer]

Don't know about the mount holes, but the link rods may need to be shortened. Apparently there are slightly different sway bars out there.

[wallace18]

After getting my front wheel deal fixed I was able to jump around and get some other stuff done. Mounted the rad. and some rear suspension. I changed out my rear arm bushings for energy suspension units like my front LCA's. I sure hope some B/O stuff starts coming in. At least I have a car show Saturday with my 33 to keep me out of trouble. LOL.

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[Frank818]

You got the same garage tiles I do. Except that I got more colors, but I got the gloss black and gloss pale grey, + gloss blue and gloss yellow.

RaceDeck, right?

[Mechie3]

Did you mount your radiator the same way everyone else did with the OEM rubber bads then the shifter bushings on top of those?

[RM1SepEx]

Craig, I ended up using bigger dia. rubber bushings, didn't like the look of the tiny shifter bushings... Got them at ACE, 3/8 thick about 1.5 OD. I'm using tubular spacers under longer bolts at the top, they are getting powder coated

[wallace18]

You got the same garage tiles I do. Except that I got more colors, but I got the gloss black and gloss pale grey, + gloss blue and gloss yellow.

RaceDeck, right?
Yes Racedeck. I got it on sale 1/2 price with free shipping. I could not turn that diown.

[wallace18]

Did you mount your radiator the same way everyone else did with the OEM rubber bads then the shifter bushings on top of those?

Yes I did and I used the same bushing up top where my mounts bolted to the frame. The rad. is in good and tight and has plenty of clearance now.

[Frank818]

Yes Racedeck. I got it on sale 1/2 price with free shipping. I could not turn that diown.

Definitely not!!! You da man, Wallace. :)

[wallace18]

Jumping around I mounted my tank and modified the lower firewall. This added a lot of legroom for me. I mounted my kirkey seats temporarly and I needed that extra room IMO. I have to bend the upper firewall more to match the bottom now. I am adding Eastwood thermocousit to the floors and on the backside of the firewalls. I will also make a alum. firewall in the engine side as some others are doing. I am mounting them with 10-32 buttonhead screws and 1/4-20 buttonhead screws and nuts.

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[RM1SepEx]

looks very nice, how much extra room do you get, 3 inches?

[wallace18]

looks very nice, how much extra room do you get, 3 inches?

Yes almost exactly 3". It sure was a help for me. I'm 6'3". My wife is 5'8" and she can still reach the pedals with the seat slid forward to the bar. I will use sliders on the drivers seat only.

[AZPete]

I also need 3" more room so I'm thinking of getting the Boyd tank. Can you use the donor fuel pump? Use the FFR filler pipe and cap? And, how are the 2 aluminum panels covering the tank modified? Thanks.
Pete

[RM1SepEx]

My wife is 5'1" I looked at sliders but my seat takes up all the space between the tank and the diagonal bar!

[07FIREBLADE]

Is the first photo where you modified the lower firewall? And are you using the stock tanl from ffr or the boyd one?

[wallace18]

I also need 3" more room so I'm thinking of getting the Boyd tank. Can you use the donor fuel pump? Use the FFR filler pipe and cap? And, how are the 2 aluminum panels covering the tank modified? Thanks.
Pete
It comes with its own pump,sender. You have the straighten the firewall top and bottom.

[wallace18]

Is the first photo where you modified the lower firewall? And are you using the stock tanl from ffr or the boyd one? It's a boyd unit. Much better than the stock unit IMO.

[RM1SepEx]

does it use a different fuel level sender? It looks to me like the F5 one only reads the level of the lower portion of the tank!

[wallace18]

does it use a different fuel level sender? It looks to me like the F5 one only reads the level of the lower portion of the tank!
Yes it is different. Everything is on top, easy to get to and no leaks.

[wallace18]

Here's some pictures of the firewall all mocked up after mods for the Boyd tank. I will most likely have to mod the hole for cables and wires. I have a photo that shows the room gain in inches. Always use a drill stop when working around a tank. I am using a combonation of 10-32 S/S screws and button head bolts.

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[wallace18]

I have Kirkey seats. I decieded to insulate the seat area and cover it with a 14ga. steel plate. They are held in place with 24 3/16" large flange S/S rivets. I painted it with eastwood wrinkle paint. I used the eastwood thermocoustic and 3/4" silver backed foam insulation. I can then mount my seats and drivers side slider easier IMO.

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[Racebrewer]

Nice seats. Which Kirkey's did you get and how well does the tilt of the seat back match the tilt of the firewall?

I need to get as much legroom as possible. Not quite Wookie, but close enough......

Thanks,
John

[wallace18]

Having to jump around again. I hope the B/O stuff comes soon. I drilled and cut out tail lights and areas for the mesh in my rear bumper. I am going to mount my plate down low like the SEMA car. Still have not decided on the exhaust exit yet.

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[Frank818]

Is it my eyes or the round cuts for the rear brake lights are not cut perfectly round?

[RM1SepEx]

clearance holes, lights mount from outside, doesn't matter

[wallace18]

clearance holes, lights mount from outside, doesn't matter

What he said! LOL. It does'nt have to be perfect if it gets covered up. LOL.

[wallace18]

I roughed out all the vent areas. I will finish them up at a later date. I also started on my rear engine side firewall. I am going to make 4 removable aluminum pieces. They will be held in with S/S 10-32 button head screw with rubber backed washers. I will also insulate between the alum. and the tank with foam and thermcoustic. I realize I have to make allowances for the wiring, cables and ect. Stll waiting on B/O stuff, Arg!

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[wallace18]

For those who chose the Boyd tank you may need to modify the sender. It should read 90 ohms empty and 0 ohms full. Some are coming with the opposite readings. The fix is easy though. Pull the sensor and flip the entire plastic assembly to the other side and flip the float as well. This way it will read correctly. Make sure you mark the levels and float before moving, so you can get them in the correct place. I will email Dave Boyd about this just in case.

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[metalmaker12]

Easy Fix! Hey you can just measure out your lower kirkey seat brackets lengths so i can determine if i get them or another set, thanks

[wallace18]

Easy Fix! Hey you can just measure out your lower kirkey seat brackets lengths so i can determine if i get them or another set, thanks

PM sent

[wallace18]

Well I got a package from FFR this week. It had almost all my B.O. stuff in it. Yea! Still waiting on the CF stuff and door liners but, now I can move on with the build. My CV axles fits my CV's pefectly. I made a firewall between the engine and fuel tank. I will make holes for fuel lines and cables as I go. I added a little old school Hot Rod to my build. Also installed 10 mm spacers for my wheels. Now I have 38mm backspace. Here's some pics.

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[Frank818]

Nice thing, what did you use as your firewall?

[metalmaker12]

I used the first rev 2006 FFR pass supplied seat mount which works for the kirkeys, only have two, wondering if anyone has another two. FFR threw them all out when they realized they don't work with oem seats.

[Mechie3]

I have some brackets. I said my car was an 06 but think the brackets say something different. I'm not using them and have no need for them. I'll take a picture. If they'll work you can have them for the cost of shipping.

[wallace18]

Nice thing, what did you use as your firewall?

14 ga. aluminum sheet. Then I engine turned it with the Eastwood kit.

[Frank818]

People are really doing great custom stuff on this forum...

[blueoval_bowtie_guy]

Looking good! Can't wait to see it again.

[wallace18]

Just in case you missed my post on the Koni thread you can easy install the collars on the shocks by useing a heat gun for 45 seconds. They slip right on then. no sanding or label to remove. See if you can guess what is wrong in one of these pics. LOL. Hint: hats vs collars.

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[wallace18]

Had a great surprize this morning. I got a call from Wayne as he was heading home from Sebring. He stopped by and showed me some tips on the parts I got from him as well as tips on the 818. I was very fortunate to have him visit. Wayne is a class guy and a very smart dude. His paint choice is awesome in the sun. I can't wait to see his car when it is done, I hope to drive up to his shop in the future for a visit as well. I hope to get going on my 818 good this week as all I am missing is the shock spring hats, CF and door liners. Pay attention to his tips in the forum. He can save you some headaches for sure.

[Wayne Presley]

Had a great surprize this morning. I got a call from Wayne as he was heading home from Sebring. He stopped by and showed me some tips on the parts I got from him as well as tips on the 818. I was very fortunate to have him visit. Wayne is a class guy and a very smart dude. His paint choice is awesome in the sun. I can't wait to see his car when it is done, I hope to drive up to his shop in the future for a visit as well. I hope to get going on my 818 good this week as all I am missing is the shock spring hats, CF and door liners. Pay attention to his tips in the forum. He can save you some headaches for sure.

Glad I could drop by on my way through, your 33 is really cool and I like the mods you've done to your 818.

[metalmaker12]

wayne is a big help, thanks man

[wallace18]

For those who want to see how much room the tall guy gas tank gets you here are some pics. I am 6'3" with a 32" inseam and weigh 240lbs. Kirkey seats. I am very comfortable here. Also I have 1.5" spacers on the column.

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[wallace18]

Today I mounted my gas pedal and throttle cable. If you read the manual it says to drill a 1/4" hole in the front panel. You most likely won't be able to pass the cable end and ball cup through it. Open the hole just enough to pass the cup through and slot 2 fender washers to finish up the job using the slip nut. I mounted my pedal with out the FFR bracket. Much better for locating it IMO. Here is a photo of that and my insulation. I also mocked up my shifter and cables.

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[RM1SepEx]

I do like your pedal location better than mine! when you depress the throttle doesn't it hit the round cross bar? Throttle cable on mine tomorrow...

[wallace18]

Mounted my shift cable brackets on the trans today. Hope they are correct. I had a tuff time remembering what Wayne told me on Sunday. I guess at my age CRS creeps in every now and then. LOL

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[Mechie3]

I don't think I have a bracket that looks like that (the one on the left).

[metalmaker12]

I don't have that bracket either

[wleehendrick]

I don't think I have a bracket that looks like that (the one on the left).

I do, and I don't even have my 818 yet! (The bracket comes with Wayne's K-tuned shifter kit)

Tom, I'd appreciate any install tips you can post for the k-tuned shifter.

Thanks,

Lee

[wallace18]

I do, and I don't even have my 818 yet! (The bracket comes with Wayne's K-tuned shifter kit)

Tom, I'd appreciate any install tips you can post for the k-tuned shifter.

Thanks,

Lee

That is correct they are not for the FFR shifter. So far I am just mocking up stuff. I am not going to locate the shifter till I have the engine/trans in the chassis. You have to cut the FFR bracket and add the other one. The cables run to the rear of the shifter instead of the front like the kits. Shorter cables mean less slop. The shifter is a piece of artwork IMO. No shifter boot on this one for sure. I am still waiting on TGV deletes and spring hats for my shocks. Then I can start cooking along. Right now I am just trying to stay busy on mods.

[wleehendrick]

The shifter is a piece of artwork IMO. No shifter boot on this one for sure

Absolutley! It's even sexier than the shifter on a Spyker, or the exposed gate on an older Ferrari. (before they went all manumatic)

I look forward to seeing yours come together. My kit's due to roll out next weekend, so it'll be a while before I get to my shifter.

And those are some seriously nice cables that Wayne provided.

[Wayne Presley]

Brackets look good, you have to redrill the FFR bracket to allow the new cable to be in the center of its travel.

[metalmaker12]

That is correct they are not for the FFR shifter. So far I am just mocking up stuff. I am not going to locate the shifter till I have the engine/trans in the chassis. You have to cut the FFR bracket and add the other one. The cables run to the rear of the shifter instead of the front like the kits. Shorter cables mean less slop. The shifter is a piece of artwork IMO. No shifter boot on this one for sure. I am still waiting on TGV deletes and spring hats for my shocks. Then I can start cooking along. Right now I am just trying to stay busy on mods.
Oh yea a da

[wallace18]

Still waiting on spring hats and TGV deletes. Mounted seats and belts and started on wiring harness. Waynes ECU/ harness is a joy to work with compared to the stock one. Here's some pics.

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[blueoval_bowtie_guy]

Looking good!

[wallace18]

I have been working on wiring. I was able to get all the light circuits, horns, fans and E-Brk light to work, as well as the dash stuff. A few wires needed relocating and I am installing wire loom covers. I did a mod on the dash as I was cutting holes for my electric cutoff switch. I got rid of the screws and installed S/S screws, washers and locknuts. I think this will hold up better in the long run, JMO.

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[Bob_n_Cincy]

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Tom
What size width are your kirkey seats?
Bob

[wallace18]

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Tom
What size width are your kirkey seats?
Bob

16", I got them on the cheap a year ago from a MKII builder who did not want them in his car.

[wallace18]

Today was clean the shop day. Of course after that I had to work some on the 818 LOL. I mounted my extra gauges in the console. It is a shame the way they light up does not show up in the pics. They look super cool IMO. Boost, Oil Pressure and Voltmeter.

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[wallace18]

I finished up my rear firewall. I added 2 boots from my factory harness. The center one is for my E-brk cables and throttle cable. The one on the left is for the fuel lines and tank vent. I felt it made it look cleaner and will allow me to mount some stuff to it with 10-32 S/S screws down the road. My harness is coming in from the left side with the coolant lines.

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[wallace18]

Still waiting on key parts. The spring hats should be here this week. I do not know on the TGV deletes. They must be coming from Japan or somewhere.LOL. I installed some of the cooling pipes and did the headlight buckets and headlights. Here's some pics.

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[Mechie3]

I see you got extra clamps for the side coolant tubes. I did the same. Didn't want them rubbing the frame and wearing holes.

[wallace18]

I see you got extra clamps for the side coolant tubes. I did the same. Didn't want them rubbing the frame and wearing holes.

Yea, I got 8 clamps in the kit. They only fit the tube so what the heck I might as well use them.

[metalmaker12]

Coming along, I m starting to button up. I like your work, and old school style!!!

[wallace18]

Well today I got good news and bad news. My coilover spring hats came today and my TGV deletes are coming tommorow. The bad news is the hats came without the spring clips. I think someone put a hex on my build. LOL. I was hoping to have the car done by now but delays are killing me. I know God is teaching me patience but I wish he would cut me a break! LOL.:( I hope Joe Scott can hook me up with some clips soon. hint, hint.

[Joe Scott]

what me?! nahhh. they are in en route to you Tom

[Mechie3]

Yea, I got 8 clamps in the kit. They only fit the tube so what the heck I might as well use them.

ORLY? I got 4 (I think?) and bought a bunch more from Mcmaster. I'll have to check my boxes.

[AJW Performance]

Did the TGV's finally make it Tom?

[wallace18]

Did the TGV's finally make it Tom?

Yes they did and they are awesome. It was worth the wait.LOL. Thanks again all the parts I have got from you guys are top notch. The gauges are awesome.

[wallace18]

Well I have been somewhat busy on the 818 as of late. I installed my TGV deletes and buttoned up the engine. I mounted a oil pressure sender. You have to install a 45 degree fitting to clear the alt. I installed the engine, transmission, front and rear shocks, finished up the front and rear suspension and installed the front sway bar. I also installed my Invidia 3" turbo outlet. I will custom make my exhaust system. The FFR exhaust is too restrictive IMO. Here's some pics. I have a car show this weekend for my 33 so the 818 is taking a break from the action.

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[metalmaker12]

Looks nice!!!

[Frank818]

Hey Wallace, things are progressing!

I was wondering, are you able to measure the distance between the axles and the firewall?
tnx for that :)

[metros]

Does invidia sell that mini downpipe piece? Or did you have to hack a downpipe apart in preparation for making your own?

[Mechie3]

Hey Wallace, things are progressing!

I was wondering, are you able to measure the distance between the axles and the firewall?
tnx for that :)

Frank, just went back outside in my pajamas since I'll just forget again in the morning. Firewall to center of rear hub is 24". Firewall to center of output on transmission is 26" (axles are forward swept slightly).

[Bob_n_Cincy]

Frank, just went back outside in my pajamas since I'll just forget again in the morning. Firewall to center of rear hub is 24". Firewall to center of output on transmission is 26" (axles are forward swept slightly).

Hey Craig, I have a very eidetic memory, I am scarred for life. did they have feet?

[philly15]

Does invidia sell that mini downpipe piece? Or did you have to hack a downpipe apart in preparation for making your own?

looks hacked, but there are a couple companies that make shorty downpipes, where basically the down pipe is two pieces, im curious of one of them would work for the 818?

[wallace18]

Does invidia sell that mini downpipe piece? Or did you have to hack a downpipe apart in preparation for making your own?

I prefer cut vs hacked. LOL. Yes I am going to tig up the rest from what is left of the WRX 3" pipe. I have enough bends and pipe to finish the job IMO.

[Frank818]

Frank, just went back outside in my pajamas since I'll just forget again in the morning. Firewall to center of rear hub is 24". Firewall to center of output on transmission is 26" (axles are forward swept slightly).

Great, tnx Mechie! :)

[Mechie3]

looks hacked, but there are a couple companies that make shorty downpipes, where basically the down pipe is two pieces, im curious of one of them would work for the 818?

No. It's not the length that's an issue. It's interferes with the frame about 3/4 of the way down the turbo where it starts to bend.

[JeromeS13]

There's also Kinugawa. I'll be using their flange/bellmouth and having a shop fabricate a downpipe.

Stock version: http://shopping.kinugawaturbo.com/turbodownpipesubaruelbowimprezawrxstitd04ltd05.asp x

JDM Twin Scroll Version: http://shopping.kinugawaturbo.com/turbodumpdownpipesubaruvf36vf37twinscroll3.aspx

[wallace18]

After running all my cables, hoses and wires I was able to determine where my grommets should go. I did the center one too low before I measured. Remember measure twice before cutting. LOL. Once I was happy with the locations I reinstalled the firewall. It gives me a great place to mount relays, fuse boxes, filters and coolant tank IMO. I have all the coolant stuff done, throttle cable, e-brk cables, starter cable and fuel lines. Still some wiring to finish up. Then I hope to start it up!

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[Frank818]

The grommets you used on the firewall, do they come with the kit or you got them by yourself?

[Bob_n_Cincy]

The grommets you used on the firewall, do they come with the kit or you got them by yourself?
The firewall and grommets are all Toms custom design. Some of the accordion grommets look like ones used on boat transoms. Also called "cable bellows".

[wallace18]

The grommets you used on the firewall, do they come with the kit or you got them by yourself?

The 2 large ones are from my donor car wiring harness. The 3 small ones are from Summit.

[wallace18]

Guy's I won't be posting for a while. My wife Marsha had a heart attack last night and I am naturally with her. Your prayers and get well thoughts are welcome. She is doing as good as can be for now. Will get a heart cath on Monday. Thanks for you kind thoughts. I'll post when I get a chance on her condition.

[Wayne Presley]

Holy crap Tom!, Give her our best wishes for a speedy recovery. You shouldn't have told her how much you spent so far...

[mekohler]

My prayers are with you and your wife.

[RM1SepEx]

We will pray for her and your family... hang in there Tom

[Mechie3]

Praying for you. People are always more important than cars.

[Frank818]

Holly **** Tom, really sorry about that, hope she'll have great doctors to stop the worst and we know she's got a great husband to get her well during rehab.

[Silvertop]

My thoughts and prayers are with you too. I know what you are going through, and what it feels like. Hang in there.

[wleehendrick]

Tom, Best wishes to Marsha for a quick recovery.

[NicksPapaw]

So sorry to hear this. Thoughts and prayers sent to your family. Hoping for a speedy recovery.

[K3LAG]

I'm praying for a complete and quick recovery for your wife, peace for you and your family and wisdom for the doctors.

Larry

[AZPete]

Tom, my thoughts are with you and Marsha for a speedy recovery.

[Bob_n_Cincy]

Tom, take care of her, the car can wait. I'll pray for her.
Bob

[metalmaker12]

Guy's I won't be posting for a while. My wife Marsha had a heart attack last night and I am naturally with her. Your prayers and get well thoughts are welcome. She is doing as good as can be for now. Will get a heart cath on Monday. Thanks for you kind thoughts. I'll post when I get a chance on her condition.

My thoughts and prays are with you both in this time, best wishes to this situation.

[metros]

Best wishes in a difficult situation.

If you have any questions or anything that I can help with feel free to pm me. I'm an occupational therapist and work on a rehab team in getting people back to their life.

[cmcintyre]

May all be well. If she is anything like mine, she is the strength behind this whole crazy pastime. Give her all of what she has given you. It will be the best thing for her. And for you.

[apexanimal]

Prayers to you both

[esff32]

I'm so sorry to hear that Wallace, I will keep you guys in my prayers.

[Goldwing]

So sorry to hear about your wife. Prayers are with both of you.

[Xusia]

OMG, I just saw this. I'm so sorry to hear that. Prayer and good thoughts are coming your way...

[longislandwrx]

Here's to a quick recovery. Hope she feels better soon.

[blueoval_bowtie_guy]

Tom, Joan and I are really sorry to hear about Marsha. Our thoughts and prayers are with you on a full and speedy recovery. Please let me know if there's anything we can do to help out.

Steve

[David Hodgkins]

Tom, I pray the Marsha has a full, complete recovery! Hang in there buddy and don't hesitate to let us know about any updates.

:)

[flynntuna]

My family and I are keeping your family in our prayers.

[Aloha818]

So sorry hear this, I just started catching up on posts from the weekend, it looks like the whole 818 community has your wife, you, and your family in our prayers.

Praying for a speedy recovery!

[Erik W. Treves]

just saw this....horrible to hear that.. Hang in there and go easy...we can pick it back after her speedy recovery. ..until then your extended family will keep you both in our prayers.

[Tony Zullo]

Sorry to hear Tom ..Give her and your family our best from FFR!! Tony Z

[ehansen007]

Yes, all our best in prayers and wishes...

[wallace18]

First off my wife Marsha is doing much better. If her MRI is OK she may get to go home tommorow. We prefer to keep the details private. I know you will honor our wishes on that. It has been a exhausting last 5-6 days for both of us. This is the first day I had to look at the forum. I can't put into words how much all of your posts, prayers and well wishes mean to us. When I told Marsha of the post she teared up saying they don't even know me and they care. I told her that is how the FFR family is. From the bottom of our hearts, thank you, thank you and God Bless. T.W.

P.S. Wayne your post made me laugh for the 1st time in 6 days. Thanks.

[wleehendrick]

Great to hear... If you give her a fraction of the care and attention you put into your cars (and I'm sure you do) she's in good hands.

[mrmustang]

Tom,

Here are best wishes for a speedy recovery for Marsha.


Bill S.

[wallace18]

My wife Marsha came home last night. She is doing fine. Thanks again for the prayers and kind thoughts. I am catching up on posts in between taking care of her. She can go back to work in 3 weeks. I may have to take a peek at my 818 on Sunday. LOL. I missed a lot of action in the forum, time for me to catch up.

[Erik W. Treves]

sweet!!! glad she is on the mend...go easy!

[RM1SepEx]

Great news!

[Xusia]

Glad to hear it. :)

[wallace18]

Marsha was feeling so much better today. She gave me the go ahead to work on the 818 some. You gotta love that girl!! LOL. I finish up my coolant lines and filled it with coolant and pressure tested it. I made a bracket sorta like Dan's a week ago. Simple fix for the tank on the engine. What was FFR thinking when they made that bar so close??? I cheated and instead of unbolting the radiator I just lifted the front of the chassis to get rid of the air. I guess I was lazy. LOL. I hope to fire it up Tuesday or Wednesday.

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[wleehendrick]

What was FFR thinking when they made that bar so close???

More like: what was Subaru thinking when they put the tank there? They should have known these motors would end up in a mid-engine tube-frame kit-car! It's all good, I ordered Craig's bracket. Good to see you back in the garage.

[blueoval_bowtie_guy]

Really glad that Marsha is doing so well! Hope to be able to make it up there again one of these days to see your progress first hand. Keep up the good work (Marsha first and the 818 second!).

Steve

[C.Plavan]

Glad Marsha is doing well- BTW you should have a check any day for the Adjustable Rear links.

[Vman7]

Tom, sorry I missed about your wife Marsha :( I guess that's what I get for not checking threads for a while now. Glad that Marsha is doing well, I will keep you and your wife in my prayers :)

David

[wallace18]

Well I have all my fluids in and hoses hooked up. I am pretty sure I have all the wires needed for engine start up. I pulled the plugs and spun the engine over till I got 50 psi Oil pressure. I have 2 gals of high test in the tank. I hope to start it today if I have time. Wife's needs come first and Doctor visits and such. I'll try to post a video if I can.

[blueoval_bowtie_guy]

Fantastic progress Tom!

[metalmaker12]

Cool man number 6

[wallace18]

Well I had a few minutes today and success! It started right up. Thanks again Wayne and Erik. It really sounds nasty in person. I can't wait to go-cart it next week.
No leaks, but the temp gauge stays buried even when cold. I got to figuire that one out.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ki5PYM1moSE&feature=youtu.be

[JeromeS13]

No leaks, but the temp gauge stays buried even when cold. I got to figuire that one out.


IIRC, there are two plugs that are identical in the coolant temp sensor area. Make sure you have the correct one plugged in.

[RM1SepEx]

Congrats! Your IC sits so much higher than mine!

[waruaki]

Sounds great! One question, what bellmouth on your turbo did you go with for your exhaust?

[blueoval_bowtie_guy]

Sounds great Tom!

[AZPete]

Sounds great! What intercooler is that? Tranny cover and firewall are beautifully done.

[wallace18]

It is an AMR intercooler from AJW. The bellmouth is listed in a prior post. Invidia.

[wallace18]

Congrats! Your IC sits so much higher than mine!

It is not stock and not bolted down yet.

[RM1SepEx]

Tom, you used Wanye's VCP wiring and CPU, how much of the stock Subaru wiring do you use?

[wallace18]

You send Wayne the ends of the engine harness, cluster and steering column. He blends those with his own harness that looks similar to a Ron Davis type harness. His makes the whole thing so simple. No O2 sensors, no A/F meter just the basics for a good setup. Very simple relay boxes and fuse panels that are small and easy to mount. The system can have lots of add ons if you wish. Well worth the money IMO. I may end up building a N/A 818 down the road and try the stock harness. If you can afford it Wayne's setup is the way to go IMO.

[RM1SepEx]

Nice, so he does al;l the extensions etc and you can plug everything in. Does this include the lighting etc...

[wallace18]

Nice, so he does al;l the extensions etc and you can plug everything in. Does this include the lighting etc...\\

The column, cluster, engine, alt. and ECU all plug right in. You must terminate all the rest like the kit does. He leaves plenty of wire so you can route it the way you want. I ended up simplifying some of the engine harness because his ECU does not use all the factory sensors and such. It made for a neater harness IMO.

[Xusia]

Being an novice at this, one question that comes to mind is if the factory uses an O2 sensor and A/F meter, what are you losing by not using those in your setup? I mean, they must serve a purpose, right?

[wallace18]

Being an novice at this, one question that comes to mind is if the factory uses an O2 sensor and A/F meter, what are you losing by not using those in your setup? I mean, they must serve a purpose, right?

I'll take a stab at answering this. Wayne most likely can do better. This TecS system is for performance first. Where the stock system is designed for emmisions. Just as a race car does not use a lot of pollution controls this one follows that kind of deal. You can add a O2 sensor to this system and I might very well do so after I get it on the street.

[Frank818]

The O2 sensor and AF meter are used usually to reduce emissions, yes. But can also be used to target a specific AF ratio cuz for some reason you want your engine to run at these ratios given a number of variables (pressure, TPS, RPM, etc.). If you let the O2 sensor and its little computer do their work to hit the targets you want, you call that closed loop mode, opposed to open loop mode. Open loop does not use the fuel corrections the O2 sensor can apply. It just takes the fuel value you have given it. But sometimes that fuel value may not be perfect due to several reasons, closed loop sees that and adjusts the AF accordingly. But in order to do so, you need the O2 sensor so that it can detect what AF ratio you are running at.

I can better explain if anyone's interested.

[Xusia]

I do understand the difference between closed loop and open loop modes, and it seems to me closed loop mode would be far superior (Perhaps that is wrong?). Knowing closed mode requires an O2 sensor and A/F meter, it would seem to me you would want them. Hence the reason for my question. Without them, it seems like the usefulness of fuel injection is limited.

[Wayne Presley]

I'll take a stab at answering this. Wayne most likely can do better. This TecS system is for performance first. Where the stock system is designed for emmisions. Just as a race car does not use a lot of pollution controls this one follows that kind of deal. You can add a O2 sensor to this system and I might very well do so after I get it on the street.


I can supply a narrow band or wideband O2 sensor with the TEC systems. I like using narrow bands only in cruise conditions where the throttle positions and load don't change quickly. What ever they read has already happened so they are only estimaters of what the motor needs next. IF the engine stays in the same configuration/load, then the information from the O2 is relavent to what happens next. Now if the engine load changes quickly, then the sensor is working behind the curve of the actual fuel load. That being said, modern electronics are so fast they can adjust the fuel and spark between individual combustion events and even between cylinder firings on the same crank revolution. But they can be give bad information with exhaust leaks, cracked spark plugs, bad plug wires so I really only let them have a +/- 5% range to work in and only in a cruise mode. At full throttle you can burn up a motor being 5% off on mix if you are tuned for maximum power. At idle the O2 sensor can cause hunting of the idle speed by changing of the pulse width of the injector.

[Frank818]

No mode is better. It depends what you aim for. For race, I don't see a reason to use closed loop, in fact it may be worse.
For street, closed loop may be better.

But that depends on so many factors! Stand alone ECUs is a complex world due to the fact you have to deal with all situations and you have to control all the data/sensors/etc. You mess something up and you're screwed. Some ECUs are easier to work with, I don't know about the TEC.

First of, you need to get the car on a dyno or tune it on the road and have your fuel map as perfect as possible. In open loop. Once that's done, closed loop can come to play and apply slight error corrections in those rare situations open loop would not hit the desired target. On some ECUs, closed loop is not controlled very good, on others it's better. You also may have to configure your sensor in the ECU's software, so you tell it how many samples per second to check for, you key in the PID factors and a LOT of other variables. You don't get that right, closed loop will barf on you. Anyway 98% of the time open loop is sufficient (IF properly tuned). And if fuel is no issue, you tune your map a little rich everywhere and the engine will never jerk.

Open loop usually is smoother cuz in closed loop there are always corrections applied so the AFR may fluctuate and if the sensor is slow to react in those situations when AFR changes are too quick, you get fuel increases when you need decreases and you get decreases when you need increases, cuz the sensor is constantly chasing its tail.

The key with stand alone ECUs is to get a perfect fuel map (well, timing as well but fuel is harder) in open loop. Once you get there, you can try closed loop and see how it behaves. If you are happy with open loop, don't spend the money on the sensor. If you want a better mpg, try CL and see if it helps.

I use closed loop cuz I realized I do have situations where open loop would act weird. It's possible I have some bad values somewhere in my map (temp, MAP, TPS, volt, who knows I built it alone from scratch!), but with closed loop I am able to smooth that out. CL helps me get a better AFR at idle, but that's my personal situation. Always try open loop first for a while.

I don't know how Wayne does his maps, but if you have an AFR meter, install it and monitor in various situations. If you are happy with the logs, don't bother with CL.
I'm sure there is a reason why Wayne doesn't use CL. But unless configured perfectly, CL is not necessarily better than OL. :)

[Frank818]

Well there you go, Wayne just said it!

I must say I do not have that problem at idle, maybe I did set my CL right in that situation, I guess.

[Wayne Presley]

With the flurry of self learning systems on the market over the last 4 years, there has been a bit of a learning curve for the industry. Mostly about the limitations of these systems WHEN something isn't perfect. An exhaust leak, faulty spark plug, burned plug wire and the computer pulls out fuel because it thinks it rich from the mis fire. It pulls fuel and pulls until the motor is too lean until it barely runs. Now I do set systems in Closed Loop (CL) but only when I can have it off at idle, on in light cruise and off once it got above about 80% volumetric efficiency.

[Erik W. Treves]

I followed Wayne's advice and ONLY allow my car to use the Narrow Band sensor (5%) at points off-idle up to about 4000 RPM and below WOT..the Electromotive allows you set several conditions for the O2's to come in....here is a video that I did a while back on my Cobra using the TEC-GT on a 408W, X303 cam with a 66mm turbo...I'd say the engine idles pretty darn good when not using the O2's...

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e344/TREVESK/th_0710091533.jpg (http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e344/TREVESK/0710091533.mp4)

[Xusia]

Thanks guys. Perfect explanation! It also explains why most aftermarket motorcycle fuel controllers run in open loop and perform very well.

[waruaki]

+1 on the explanations, thanks.

[wallace18]

I have been busy with other stuff lately. Today I finally got to work on the 818 some. I fixed my temp and fuel gauges. The 2 Blk/Wht wires out of C conn. from the cluster were not hooked to ground as they should be. Simple fix. I ran the engine and had some idle issues. I had some vacuum leaks and a stuck IACV. Still idles about 1250 need to look further into this deal. The fans come on at 90 degree C and off at 87. Engine has unreal throttle response. If it runs half as good as it sounds I am going to be a happy man! Waynes kit is the bomb!
I had to modify my alt. setup. I needed to remove it and could not get the long bolt out with my firewall. I ended up taping the mount and using 2 10-1.5 bolts. I am trying to make the wiring as neat as possible in the engine bay. Like a dope I cut the crank sensor wires to the TecS. Wayne came to my rescue. I realy felt like a dope. ( I came clean Wayne! Inside joke!) LOL. I guess God has a way of Making us humble now and then. Hope to work on the wiring some more this weekend. BBall and Football will eat up some time as well as wife's Doc visits. Here is some photos

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[Frank818]

How's your wife doing?

[wallace18]

How's your wife doing?
She is doing much better. Still not 100%. But getting better every day. Thanks.

[longislandwrx]

I had some vacuum leaks and a stuck IACV. Still idles about 1250 need to look further into this deal.

Did you clean it out with gasoline? I usually invert it and fill it with gas, let it soak and then qtip it. I always have 2 or 3 IAC gaskets on had because they are shot once you take them out.

[wallace18]

Did you clean it out with gasoline? I usually invert it and fill it with gas, let it soak and then qtip it. I always have 2 or 3 IAC gaskets on had because they are shot once you take them out.

I guess I should replace it. It seemed fine when I cleaned the IAC.

[longislandwrx]

Unless your was changed recently... wait until you see a new one.

[wallace18]

I was able to fix my goof-up. I got most of the engine wires done and hoses now. All that is left is the carbon cannister and speedo sensor. Here is some pics. Hard to find time to work on the 818 lately. Other matters pressing.

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[metalmaker12]

Hey Tom, my cooler barely fits under the bonnet and yours looks and is thicker

[wallace18]

Hey Tom, my cooler barely fits under the bonnet and yours looks and is thicker

Yea I figure I may have some adjusting to do. I do not have it bolted down yet. I may have to lay it down more with custom brackets.

[wallace18]

I was able to hook up my speedo sensor and make it work today. I finished up covering my wires in the engine bay area. I finished up my E-Brk as well. I like the Lokar one much better than the donor JMO. I plan to finish up wires in the dash area and align the go-cart. Maybe test drive by this weekend.

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[Xusia]

Was the lokar E-brake a kit? Just a handle? Where did you get it?

[Wayne Presley]

Tom and I both put the Lokar handle in our cars and it's just the handle. Tom center mounted his handle on a plate he made and used the FFR suppled cable mount/rear tunnel aluminum. I set mine offset toward the passenger, built a low cable mount and did custom aluminum with the Lokar brake boot w/bezel.

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc175/vcpinjectionpb/20131028_194520_zps42890724.jpg (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/vcpinjectionpb/media/20131028_194520_zps42890724.jpg.html)

[wallace18]

Was the lokar E-brake a kit? Just a handle? Where did you get it?

I got it from Summit. I also ordered the boot for it. It is just a handel. I modified it using the stock cable holder and a 1/4-20 threaded rod from the handel to the cable holder. This way it is adjustable. Don't forget to adjust your rear brake shoes properly first.

[JeromeS13]

Tom,

Everything looks great so far! How did you bend your rear firewall aluminum back straight? Did you take it to somewhere who has a large brake?

Thanks!

Jerome

[Mechie3]

I think you might be confusing his custom firewall on the inside of the engine bay with the FFR supplied firewall that is on the inside of the cabin. A few of us made firewalls to separate the fuel tank area from the engine area.

[C.Plavan]

I would love the measurements if someone has them handy of the homebuilt firewalls, Otherwise I can measure :), but too lazy.

[AZPete]

I think Jerome was asking about the thick panel of the rear firewall being bent to fit the Boyd tank. I had a metal shop bend the upper panel an additional 20 degrees. Jerome, I'll PM you the shop contact info in Mesa.

http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb180/AZPeteCobra/rearfirewall.jpg (http://s210.photobucket.com/user/AZPeteCobra/media/rearfirewall.jpg.html)

[Mechie3]

I would love the measurements if someone has them handy of the homebuilt firewalls, Otherwise I can measure :), but too lazy.

I did it the lazy way: Traced it onto cardboard, then made it from sheet metal.

[wallace18]

Tom,

Everything looks great so far! How did you bend your rear firewall aluminum back straight? Did you take it to somewhere who has a large brake?

Thanks!

Jerome

I cut a relief in the back side of the bend with a cutoff wheel and then bent it on a table with some clamps. Then I stitch welded it every 3" on the back side for strength.

[wallace18]

Well I got it ready to go cart today. My wife took the video of me going just up and down my drive. Sorry the video does not show how fast this thing is. Wayne that TecS and program is awesome. This is the quickest car I ever drove. Very snappy and accelaration is not to be believed. All I can say is Wow!
I hit 100 MPH in a very short space. It almost blew my hair off. LOL.
I started on my console. Aligned front and back using tiles and lazer level. Hope you enjoy the video.


http://youtu.be/0V5Jc80xGnM

[wallace18]

Here is some photos of the dash and start of the console. Also how I aligned the wheels. I was happy with no leaks and a good go-cart day. This car is going to be a blast to drive when it is done. It really needs a muffler though. I need to figuire something out for it once I mount the body.

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[Mitch Wright]

Nice work Tom

[Frank818]

It almost blew my hair off. LOL.

Note to self: must not use a wig.

:)

[metalmaker12]

Is your kill switch just to battery postive or to alternator also

[wallace18]

Is your kill switch just to battery postive or to alternator also

Both.

[longislandwrx]

Nice job, lets get some in car video of you going down that drag strip, I mean your driveway. ;) You have a lot of nice parts on your build, it shows that everything was thought through.

[Frank818]

How long did it take you from the day you started your build to the day you drove the car in that video?
Actually I guess I can find out by the dates on your posts.

[blueoval_bowtie_guy]

Great progress Tom!

[tmoretta]

Hey - where are you deadending the upper straps for the harnesses?

[wallace18]

Hey - where are you deadending the upper straps for the harnesses?

I did not use the donor harness. I used Wayne Presley's setup. Not really sure what you mean by deadend?????

[wallace18]

After a sucessful go-cart ride I started on the center console. I am just using it for 3 gauges. I'll cover the whole center console with carpet and vinyl both black. My whole interior will be black vinyl and black carpet. I will mount radio in dash on Passenger side. Not sure where the speakers will go yet.
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[Mechie3]

Wallace, I think he meant the seatbelt harness mounting points.

[wallace18]

Wallace, I think he meant the seatbelt harness mounting points.

In that case on the bar behind the seat. My seats are low enough to do this IMO.

[Wayne Presley]

In that case on the bar behind the seat. My seats are low enough to do this IMO.

That's where my belts wrap around

[Aloha818]

After a sucessful go-cart ride I started on the center console. I am just using it for 3 gauges. I'll cover the whole center console with carpet and vinyl both black. My whole interior will be black vinyl and black carpet. I will mount radio in dash on Passenger side. Not sure where the speakers will go yet.
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Congrats on the go cart ride! I'm about a month out.

A great start on the console, but I don't see any space for cup holders!

[wallace18]

The way this car accelerates nothing would stay in the cup. LOL.

[Frank818]

The way this car accelerates nothing would stay in the cup. LOL.

The trick here when you accelerate hard is to brake hard just before the liquid pours towards you and then you accelerate hard again just before the liquid pours towards the front and again and again you see the point. :)

[metalmaker12]

No chance to keep fluid in anything but a sealed bottle. It is nutty fast

[flynntuna]

Might try one of these....:rolleyes:

[wallace18]

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I finished up most my interior alum work. On to the body. The sides and rear went on very easy. I have trouble with the front fenders and hood/bonnet. I don't know if the fenders go on top of the windsheild frame or under. It seems they should go under but then the hood don't fit worth a damn. Any help would be appreciated.

[Frank818]

Do you have a picture of the front fender thing on top or under windshield frame you mentioned on another thread?

[metalmaker12]

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I finished up most my interior alum work. On to the body. The sides and rear went on very easy. I have trouble with the front fenders and hood/bonnet. I don't know if the fenders go on top of the windsheild frame or under. It seems they should go under but then the hood don't fit worth a damn. Any help would be appreciated.

Tom, if you haven't already, I would try to fit on your rear bonnets and make sure your quarters are were you want them. I am pretty sure the fenders go under, but I have not gotten the windshield frame in yet. The rear small bonnet will have a gap and you will notice it is a matter of pushing the rear section in. some tweaking will be needed, with the hood pins and or whatever you choose to do to keep that line, or go Erik's route. I am coming up with a brace setup along with some body triming and re-glassing to make the lines even. This is why Erik made his one piece.

The 5/8 that they recommend for front bottom of rocker is close to were they should sit but mike Everson and I had to space it out 3/4 for me and 1" for mike so get good lines on doors fenders and rear sections

[wallace18]

Well it has been an interested week or so. Looks like I have my 33 sold. A guy wants to buy it after seeing it at the Turkey rod run in Daytona. I was at Road Atlanta having fun with MX-5's at Skip Barber. Great track and fun to knock off over 20 years of rust racing there. Track has changed some but still rewarding to drive fast. I am going to try to work on the 818 some next week. I have a few things the customer wants on the 33 to finish up. Body work is always challegeing.

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[wallace18]

Well I just had to try my rear parts on the car. The AMR intercooler has to be mounted further back and lower. I am going to mount it under the rear hatch mesh and add a electric fan to blow cool ducted air over it. Some brackets and hoses will do the job. If I had to do this over a N/A donor would have been used. This turbo engine could be trouble in the wrong hands IMO. I found a Hyundai spoiler in the bone yard for 25 bucks. It even had a third brake light. I think it looks good on the back. I am sure some will not like it, but WTH I am going for it. IMO it follows the rear lines well and looks cool. I think I will use black mesh to cover the gaps behind the seat to the rear hatch behind the rollbar.

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[blueoval_bowtie_guy]

You're making great progress Tom!

[tmoretta]

Am talking about racing seat harnesses (instead of seatbelts).

[Xusia]

Tom, I like the wing! What model Hyundai did you get it off of?

Also, in regards to the intercooler, I had a similar idea. I'd love to see what you come up with. One thought I had, though, is that the existing rear hatch mesh is too far rearward. And, of course, it's attached to the trunk lid, which further complicates it. What about an opening further forward, on the engine bay portion (not the trunk lid)? Would that work?

[wallace18]

Tom, I like the wing! What model Hyundai did you get it off of?

Also, in regards to the intercooler, I had a similar idea. I'd love to see what you come up with. One thought I had, though, is that the existing rear hatch mesh is too far rearward. And, of course, it's attached to the trunk lid, which further complicates it. What about an opening further forward, on the engine bay portion (not the trunk lid)? Would that work? I am sure it would. I am not going to have a trunk at all. So my location will work for me. The back lids will only come off for service or to show off the engine. The spoiler was from a tiberon not sure of the year. I think it was the first gen though.