Wallace18"s 818 Build

[wallace18]

Am talking about racing seat harnesses (instead of seatbelts).

see post 235.

[AZPete]

I like the wing. The shape works and the wiring will never be noticed if someone looks at the 818 from the left front! :D

[Mechie3]

Wing reminds me a little of the gallardo sv wing.

[wallace18]

I have been working on the body the last 2 days. The doors went on easy IMO. The front fenders, front nose and front hood don't line up worth a **** to my windshield no matter where I move it. I am having my body/ painter guy come over tomorrow to try to help me out with it. I can see how this kit is 10 K less than the rest. But such allowances must be made IMO. I think when it is done it will be a cool looking car and most defintely have superb performance.

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[Erik W. Treves]

I trimmed the ends of my windshield to allow the hood to sit flush. I had more trouble in the back.. Lol.. I will take picture when I get back to the house later this week.. I think I cut about 1/4 off the end of the windshield to get it lay in there. The windshield needs to go as far down and back as possible

[wleehendrick]

I trimmed the ends of my windshield to allow the hood to sit flush.
I think I cut about 1/4 off the end of the windshield to get it lay in there.

To clarify, I assume you trimmed the metal frame, not the glass windshield itself? :eek:

[C.Plavan]

At least you have somewhere to mount the doors...... The 818R has NO provisions for the doors.

[Erik W. Treves]

Trimmed the fiberglass

[wallace18]

Success!!! Chris my body/Paint guy came over and we pushed the windshield back as far as we could like Wayne had suggested. Now with some trimming and fab up 2 brackets for the back top of the fenders the hood fits good on top of the windshield frame. I have to trim the front of the doors as well. I post pics when I get all this done.

[David Hodgkins]

Looking REALLY good! I like the wing too.

:)

[ehansen007]

I trimmed the ends of my windshield to allow the hood to sit flush. I had more trouble in the back.. Lol.. I will take picture when I get back to the house later this week.. I think I cut about 1/4 off the end of the windshield to get it lay in there. The windshield needs to go as far down and back as possible

Wallace you're kicking butt. Love the spoiler. I saw one the other day in my work parking garage and I must have it. However its for the new Audi TT-RS and the only inexpensive version comes straight from China/Hong Kong and I think it's too much of a gamble. It is sweet though!

http://i.ebayimg.com/t/CARBON-FIBER-AUDI-2007-2013-TT-8J-TTS-RS-STYLE-REAR-WING-TRUNK-SPOILER-/00/s/NjAwWDgwMA==/z/QI8AAOxyQj9RRGKL/$T2eC16V,!zcE9s4g3MFHBRRGKL!sww~~60_35.JPG

I'm probably going to bribe a few guys to come out to the West to help with my body. It's amazing how much faster it goes when you have three warped heads working on body panels. Two will usually cancel each other out but that third guy in the rotation always seems to figure out how it fits. Last time it was myself, Stack, and Jeff Miller. For those interested, I live close to Disneyland and Legoland, AND the weather is usually great here in January! ;)

[wallace18]

Well to get back to my Build thread I have about 95% of the body work done. I am happy with how it is progressing now. I do have to massage stuff to get the fit I want. But to me that is 1/2 the fun. Hopefully off to paint by Jan. 2nd.
I made rear fender braces at the top. It helped with the fit to the windshield IMO.

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[Mechie3]

I can't wait until I'm done with my wiring to get started on body stuff. My problem is if that if I know I can do something better I don't want to accept anything less.

[metalmaker12]

I can't wait until I'm done with my wiring to get started on body stuff. My problem is if that if I know I can do something better I don't want to accept anything less.

I hear ya, but gave up on absolute perfection, because I realized that is impossible in my life time.

[David Hodgkins]

Guys, I moved the off-topic powdercoat issue into it's own thread (with the OP's permission):
http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showthread.php?12594-818-powdercoating-issue

:)

[Frank818]

What would we do without you, David. :)

[wallace18]

My turbo pipes and hoses came in from HPS. I was able to mock up my intercooler and will start on my intercooler fan shroud next. I will be using a electric fan to blow cold air over my intercooler.

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[Frank818]

That is what I am planning to do, to extract hot air in my case, but the concept is the same. Nice one.

[flynntuna]

Nice... Like this idea a lot. Seems that a trunk not meant to be. :(

[freds]

That looks good. I like it!
For your consideration....Whenever a gas (air for us) is compressed, It causes a rise in the temperature of the gas...Gee...that is why there is an intercooler after the turbo...
It would be better to have the fan suck the cold air through the intercooler.

Frankly, i have no idea what the temperature rise due to your fan will be...but in principle it is better to suck air through the IC

fred

[Frank818]

but in principle it is better to suck air through the IC

Some mentioned, FFR maybe, that air was coming through the floor and up through the IC and that in fact the air exchange was not above the IC down through the IC but under the IC up through the IC.

[wallace18]

I doubt there will be much compression or heat buildup from this fan, IMO. FFR had heat soak problems with the R at Watkins Glen. I doubt very much air would flow backwards through the intercooler IMO. Some sort of forward facing scoop like the WRX could work also. It is just a idea I came up with and will give it a try. I am not looking to get record HP or TQ ratings, just build a differant mouse trap so to speak. LOL.

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[wallace18]

After finishing up my intercooler shroud I ran the fan for 20 minutes. Less than one tenth of degree change top to bottom. So much for that deal. I also got my fenderwell aluminum done front and back. I am waiting on my inner door panels then it is off to get painted.

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[AZPete]

Thanks for the wheel well photos. It's nice to see the future!
Have you tried reversing the fan so it blows air up and out? It would be nice to see if it makes a difference.

[icky]

I was also considering a flexalite fan, can you give more details about the fan?

[Xusia]

After finishing up my intercooler shroud I ran the fan for 20 minutes. Less than one tenth of degree change top to bottom.

What exactly does that mean? It was effective because heat didn't rise? It was a fail because there should have been a change? I don't understand... :(

[wallace18]

What exactly does that mean? It was effective because heat didn't rise? It was a fail because there should have been a change? I don't understand... :(

The engine was not running. There is a group who felt that the fan would compress the air and heat it up. I am not going to reverse the flow because it would pull hot air from the turbo through the intercooler. That would not work well in my opinion.

[wallace18]

I was also considering a flexalite fan, can you give more details about the fan?

I just found a fan on e-bay that fit my needs. I don't recall the manufacture. Sorry.

[Xusia]

Ah, OK? Thanks for the explanation. I don't think it possible for a simple fan to actually compress air [enough for it to heat up], so performing a test for that completely escaped me!

[jontexas]

I'm planning on keeping the washer motor, and running water spray to the intercooler. That's proven to work.

[wallace18]

I am done fooling around with the fiberglass. I took apart all the body parts and rubber undercoated the backside of all parts. I also used truck bedliner spray on all my wheel well alum. I finished all my wiring for all the lights and just have my fan and radio left to wire. It is 76 degrees here in Florida so I am going to lunch in my 33. Just part of the good fortune to live in Florida. LOL.

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[ehansen007]

Hey brother, does that black show through the gel coat in certain areas? I plan on leaving the car white for a while and didn't want it to change the color. Thanks and looking good.

[blueoval_bowtie_guy]

Tom,

I thought you sold your '33. Do you still have work to do on it for the new owner?

Steve

[wallace18]

Hey brother, does that black show through the gel coat in certain areas? I plan on leaving the car white for a while and didn't want it to change the color. Thanks and looking good.

As far as I can tell it does not show through.

[wallace18]

I have had some questions asked of me on the shifter brackets. Here is an answer I hope that helps. You cut the FFR bracket off at the end of the trans. The VCP shifter has the arm mounted up instead of down. You most likely will have to elongate the holes for the bolts to the trans on the side. Then install the VCP bracket for the other cable. I ran the cables under the intake to the shifter. Mount the cables to the trans first then locate your shifter. This worked well for me. Here is some photos. I hope this helps those who had questions.

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[wallace18]

I put the body back on and took my wife for a ride. She said it is too fast for her. LOL.

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[Frank818]

I missed the post you discussed about your rear spoiler, do you remember how long it was? (not how long was the spoiler but how long ago you did talk about it :))

[07FIREBLADE]

Any pics from the back the the spoiler attached.

[wallace18]

Any pics from the back the the spoiler attached.
All you have to do is go back one page.

[wallace18]

I missed the post you discussed about your rear spoiler, do you remember how long it was? (not how long was the spoiler but how long ago you did talk about it :))
See above.

[Canadian818]

Are you installing a front splitter?

[esff32]

That thing looks awesome Wallace! Nicely done.

[wallace18]

I am still waiting on my CF parts and door liners. Should be here Tuesday. Great X-mas gift huh? Here is some photos of my 818 next to my 33 and my wife's BRZ.

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[Erik W. Treves]

that's cool!

[C.Plavan]

That rear spoiler looks like it was meant to be there.

[wallace18]

I got my Cf and door panels on the 26th. I mounted the CF. And I sprayed the underside of the diffuser with black truck bedliner. Overall I am glad I got the CF stuff. I made some simple mounts for the rear of the front splitter. I used rivnuts and 10-32 screws to the frame every where I could for the CF. I am not that happy with the Door panels. I am going to modify them to meet my needs. I'll post later what I am doing with those.

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[metalmaker12]

Nice work man!!

[Xusia]

I like your mounts. Was the FFR mount not satisfactory?

[wallace18]

I like your mounts. Was the FFR mount not satisfactory?
As far as I know there is no directions published for mounting the cf. I just made mine based on making it more rigid.

[RM1SepEx]

Looks great!

[Xusia]

Wait... So no instructions and no mounting hardware??

[RM1SepEx]

Just a BIG cardboard box, plenty of that crushed up kraft paper as packing material, the CF parts, and 4 aluminum vanes for the diffuser... not even a packing list, instructions, you can't be serious! LOL

[Erik W. Treves]

hmm... I didn't get aluminum vanes with mine...lol...too funny...guess I need to make an inquiry or maybe I will just make my own given that I have a ton of aluminum left over....ah...whatever...maybe I will just drive it around for a while!!!!

[Xusia]

How do you know where to place the vanes? I have these parts too...

[wallace18]

I just made my best guess. My CF stuff is mostly for looks anyway. On the street I could never drive it to its capability without going to jail. LOL. I did get hardware to mount it, but I used my own S/S stuff. I have a ton of hardware and aluminum left over. I can always use it on another build down the road.

[metalmaker12]

Jail is in my future if I leave third gear, lol

[Xusia]

LOL - I deal with ^that issue all the time on my motorcycle. I try very hard to find roads where fun can be had at lower speeds.

[wallace18]

I removed all the body to clean up my undercoat overspray. I found out my doors would drag on the bottom even when I had the door gaps right on the outside closed. The inside of my doors sagged down and would scrap the inside of the side pod. I made a quick fix with a angled piece of alum srcap. Maybe this will help others. I also mounted my Hollywood mirrors. I did not care for the Subie donor ones. Here is some pics. I'll post the door deal in the body thread as well.

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[Wayne Presley]

The door panels will pull up the inside bottom edge of the door a little, may just give you the clearance you need. Mine has very small gaps and no dragging.

[Erik W. Treves]

x2...I used the door panel to suck up the "sag" .. but this looks like a good solution as well...Wayne's gaps are REALLY good...I got close but his are much better

BTW, I like those mirrors!

[RM1SepEx]

I like those mirrors too... source?

[metalmaker12]

Yea my door panels seem to suck up the sag

[wallace18]

I finished up my exhaust. I used 2 sprint car noise reducers in the 3" pipe. It is somewhat quieter. LOL. I am still debateing the tip type. This one is OK but I may go round. Now it is off to Huegenics for paint later this week or early next week. This will give me a chance to clean up the shop. And do some side work.

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[Frank818]

Noise reducers inside the pipe?

[wallace18]

Noise reducers inside the pipe?

What do you think a muffler is? Race cars now have to meet decibel limits in some areas. Companys make decibel reducing inserts for this reason.

[C.Plavan]

I used "Hushpower" mufflers on my race car when I needed to make sound requirements- (Laguna Seca) Still zaps some power, but much quieter.

[Frank818]

What do you think a muffler is?

A noise reducer "outside" the pipe. :)

[wallace18]

Took the 818 to the paint shop today. Settled on a burnt orange as the color. A few shades darker than Wayne's car. I like how it looked with the gold wheels. The front is an easy fix my body guy said. Thank goodness for that. I am covering the door panels in black vinyl and have carbon fiber look inserts. Pictures to come later. I hope to have the car done for the NOPI nationals in Orlando in March.

[Mechie3]

Front is an easy fix? What'd you do? (or what do you want to do?)

[Xusia]

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showthread.php?12946-Oops!-Don-t-do-what-I-did

[wallace18]

Front is an easy fix? What'd you do? (or what do you want to do?)
I cracked it loading the car in my trailer. See thread above.

[Santiago]

Damn. Love the spoiler - talk about a great find!
And your color choice sounds exactly like what I thought would look great. Looking forward to seeing the finished product!

Best,
-j

[blueoval_bowtie_guy]

Really looking forward to seeing it when it is done!

Steve

[wallace18]

While my body work is being painted I went to Very Cool parts in Alabama to have Wayne Presley do a dyno tune on my 818. I had some stuff I wanted sorted out better. Wayne was great. I had a brain fart and the strap on the back of my 818 came loose on the trip. I had to jump on the brakes for a guy who pulled out in front of me. The 818 punched a hole in the front of my enclosed trailer. Sounds worse than it is luckily for me. After fixing plug and crank sensor gaps Wayne got serious on the tune. I ended up with About 250HP and 240ft/lb torque at the rear wheels. I am happy with the results. This was at 14psi. The engine sounds great and throttle response is good. Thanks again to Wayne for such a good setup. We had a great lunch at a local hangout and I got to see his 818 up close. It is a work of art. Paint in the sun is awesome. I highly recommend VCP to anyone who needs stuff for their 818. Great people to deal with. BTW it was cold!!!!!
Here is what is added to the stock 2002 longblock. HTA68 turbo, AMR intercooler, 750cc injectors, grimmspeed TGV deletes and boost controller, Invidia 3" catless downpipe, Tomei 4-1 S/S headers without cat, Boyd fuel tank with Aeromotive fuel pump, TecS engine controller.

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[Wayne Presley]

Glad to have you Tom. Cool cars, good food and friends, it was a good day

[Erik W. Treves]

nice! Looking good!!

[wallace18]

nice! Looking good!!

Thanks, Saw lots of helicopters in the sky there. Did you spend lots of time there?

[Erik W. Treves]

I spent 1 year there in 91. And 3 years there in 06-09. I hated leaving there the last time

[narkosys]

I know that feeling. I haven't flown a helicopter in a year and I am seriously jonzing! O.o

P

[longislandwrx]

How do you like your 330 mm steering wheel?... I was ready to order but i'm concerned it might be a little too big.

[wallace18]

How do you like your 330 mm steering wheel?... I was ready to order but i'm concerned it might be a little too big.

I find it works great for me. Everyone has their own preference's. I did lower the column about 2.5". My seats are right on the floor.

[metalmaker12]

I got a 330mm wheel now to, it is perfect for the car. 330mm is 12.9 inches, the stock wheel is like 15 inches

[Wayne Presley]

I also have a 330 and love it.

[RM1SepEx]

I'm looking at a ST 007R 320 mm leather NRG...

[wleehendrick]

I'm looking at a ST 007R 320 mm leather NRG...

I liked the ST-002RCF NRG wheel so much in Erik's (33 Machine) electric build, I ordered one from him. I'm heading over to EVWest today to pick it up. He'll give you a good deal on the wheel, hub and anything else you may need from NRG.

[wallace18]

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Wife helped me cover the dash top with CF vinyl and black vinyl for bottom. I'll install dash and start on interior. Then get window installed so go-cart will be ready for painted body work.

[Erik W. Treves]

that an interesting picture of the dash top :D

but your dyno sheet allowed me to compare two stock (I think yours is stock) engines with two different turbos....

seems like I have a little more under the curve and boost comes in sooner...

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=25872&d=1391471454

[wallace18]

Yours is much better IMO. I am happy with what I got. I just asked AJW what I would need for just a little above stock when I asked for parts. I don't want to over do it. I am sure your intercooler is better as well. I am not sure how my graph ended up for my dash picture. LOL.

[Brando]

Wow the dash looks great like that. I just ordered some 4d CF wrap for the scoops, now considering the dash as well after this image. Did you wrap that around the lip? It's hard to tell with the lighting

[wallace18]

Wow the dash looks great like that. I just ordered some 4d CF wrap for the scoops, now considering the dash as well after this image. Did you wrap that around the lip? It's hard to tell with the lighting
Yes, I separated the dash halfs and did as you say on the top. I did not wrap it around the lower part.

[wallace18]

My body parts are all sanded and primed. Next week or so it is paint time. Here is some photos.

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[RM1SepEx]

Tom, did you have to do a bunch of work to clean up the top edges of the rear fenders where the engine cover and trunk lid meet the fenders? Mine are all "gobbed up" with uneven gel coat. I was told that they chipped out when removed from the mold and that they would clean up fine with 2000 grit wet sandpaper... your experience?

[metalmaker12]

I have to add some epoxy to my rear bonnet hatch edges to get better lines along with other areas in the rear. The noise seems pretty good except for some imperfections in the gel coat. I am close to priming it all and onto paint, but I am working on plates also.

[wallace18]

Tom, did you have to do a bunch of work to clean up the top edges of the rear fenders where the engine cover and trunk lid meet the fenders? Mine are all "gobbed up" with uneven gel coat. I was told that they chipped out when removed from the mold and that they would clean up fine with 2000 grit wet sandpaper... your experience?

There was a fair amount of work done to those panels as well as the side pods . Every panel with the exception of the doors needed work. IMO this is not a no paint kit. But to each his own. I like a good paint job. If I end up doing some customer cars I will suggest wrap. Though a lot of the imperfections will show. But it is a 10K kit, For the money it is good IMO.

[ehansen007]

Yes, I separated the dash halfs and did as you say on the top. I did not wrap it around the lower part.

I think it's important to remember not to cover the dash top with anything that has a varied pattern that catches light as it will just reflect in the windshield. On this car the windshield may be angled enough so it doesn't affect your view. Not sure. I'm anxious to find out. I'll be doing mine with basic black leather or similar and something else for the front of the dash.

[wallace18]

I got my 818 back from the glass shop. It took a lot of sealer in the lower bottom corners. But I like how it came out. I mounted my rear view mirror and finished up my carpet and dash stuff. Now all I am waiting is for the paintwork to be done. Maybe next 10 days or so. Also I used a small piece of headliner material to cover the gap at the steering column. Very easy to install and looks good to me. IMO.

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[Frank818]

Why again is the radio mounted that far off of you?

Looks like the car will soon be on the tarmac!

[blueoval_bowtie_guy]

Looking great Tom!

[wallace18]

Why again is the radio mounted that far off of you?

Looks like the car will soon be on the tarmac!

I let my wife deal with the radio. Also I have a remote. LOL.

I also signed up for the NOPI Nationals in Orlando on the 29th of March. I'll show off my 818S there for the first show.

[Frank818]

I let my wife deal with the radio. Also I have a remote. LOL.

lollll!!!! :D Gotcha. Smart guy.

For the show, that means 1 month before it's all done?

[Santiago]

Very cool! The interior accents are nicely done! Almost makes me want to do an S-car...ok, no, but still, looks great!

Best,
-j

[metalmaker12]

My wife won't let me touch the radio, I am a heavy head banger at times!!

[wallace18]

Well my paint guy, Chris talked me into painting my wheels and changing my calipers to black. I was hesitant to go away from my gold wheels and red calipers. But he is much better at the color stuff than me so I gave in. All I can say is WOW!!!!!!!
He put down 14 coats of paint on the wheels alone. The first picture is the wheels as I bought them in gold. The next 2 are the wheel painted. Depending on the suns angle they can look orange, black or a root beer color. Lots of flake and candy in the paint. My photos really don't do them justice. He is laying down the final paint on the body parts tonight. Wait till you see that!! I hope to be putting it back together on Monday or Tuesday. Here is pics.

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[Canadian818]

Wild color! Can't wait to see the car.

[Frank818]

How many coats???? lolll

The color looks wicked!!! :)

[metalmaker12]

Nice!!

[Xusia]

Wow. That's really incredible!

[wallace18]

Finally all the paint work is done. I brought my chassis over and started to assemble the body at Huegenics body shop. Here is some photos. I hope to have all the body work on by the end of tomorrow.

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[Brando]

Wow. Looks so good, you must feel pretty proud walking into your garage at this point.

[wleehendrick]

Looks great, Tom! Are you going to mount the vent bezels, or keep the exposed fastener look? I'm thinking about using the bezels, but also securing with button head flange bolts, not comfortable with just silicone. Also, are you skipping the diffuser strakes, I don't see them in there?

[AZPete]

WOW! I like the vents without the bezels. What's the emblem on the butt? More photos as you get it completed, please, please.

[wallace18]

Looks great, Tom! Are you going to mount the vent bezels, or keep the exposed fastener look? I'm thinking about using the bezels, but also securing with button head flange bolts, not comfortable with just silicone. Also, are you skipping the diffuser strakes, I don't see them in there?

I am just using the S/S screws. The rakes are there. Hard to see in that photo. You can see them earlier in my thread.

[Santiago]

Fantastic color! Something about this car makes orange tones work so well on it.

Looks like the strakes are there, yes?

Personally, I'm really digging the exposed fastener look. The R-car doesn't use fasteners on the rear vents, I think they just used either silicone or epoxy - and it's been driven hard at speed (including some off-track agricultural excursions).

Best,
-j

[wleehendrick]

The rakes are there. Hard to see in that photo.

Yeah... there they are. Head on with two in front of the jackstands. Just looked completely open at first. I kinda like the empty look, but I know they help keep laminar flow to be effective.

[metalmaker12]

Nice Tom, like the color!!!

[Frank818]

The look is awesome!

[Harley818]

Love the color. Can't wait to see it outside with some good pictures of the wheels for contrast! Nice work.

[Xusia]

Wow. Just wow.

[Aloha818]

Great job! Great color! I need to hurry up and get to this point

[Bob_n_Cincy]

Finally all the paint work is done. I brought my chassis over and started to assemble the body at Huegenics body shop. Here is some photos. I hope to have all the body work on by the end of tomorrow.

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Great Job Tom, love the Root Beer wheels.
Did you do all the body prep?
Have fun at NOPI NATIONALS next week.
Bob

[wallace18]

Great Job Tom, love the Root Beer wheels.
Did you do all the body prep?
Have fun at NOPI NATIONALS next week.
Bob

I did the mounting and gaping. There are 2 things I do not do. 1 is sanding and 2 is painting. I do not care to do either one. I leave that up to Chris at Huegenics.

[Wayne Presley]

Tom,
is that a copper color? It looks awesome!

[blueoval_bowtie_guy]

Looks GREAT Tom!

[tmoretta]

Is that FFR's own orange color?

[Mechie3]

Very nice! Makes me want to get going on mine again now that it's (sort of) getting warm.

[wallace18]

Here it is almost done. Still have a few odds and ends to finish up. By the way Wayne this thing runs so good after your dyno tune. Thanks again VCP. The car after primer was painted black on the humps and center of front hood. the rest of the car was then painted white. Then several layers of gold flake then tangerine candy, more small flake the clear. Then wet sanded and buffed out. It is awesome in the sun. The humps and hood change color depending on the sun or shade. Thanks again to Huegenics for their paintwork and FFR for the great kit. Also all of you on the forum for your kind words and help. I hope I was a help to some as well.

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[Vman7]

Looks great Tom!!!! Those wheels (color) accent the body color very well. The wing you used works well with the car.

David

[metalmaker12]

Very nice job!!!

[Goldwing]

Stunning color choice!

[flynntuna]

Man,outstanding. My proposed budget doesn't include paint. :(. That color has given me an itch that will be expensive to scratch.

[svanlare]

That turned out fantastic!

[STiPWRD]

Wow, that is a killer paint job! Everything really came together

[longislandwrx]

Your large top vent looks awesome, exactly what I had in mind. Thanks for helping me visualize it!

[Aloha818]

I really like the wing and the side mirrors!

In your last pic it looks like you notched the inside top of the door panel around the dash. I haven't yet put those top two screws in mine that locks that in place yet, as my door cards haven't arrived yet (tracking shows today though) and I want to see how that area all comes together first. I was planning on pushing the top of the door panels outwards to align the body line of the door with the body line of the fender, the manual does not provide any specifics. This requires further trimming of the return lip of the fenders. Can you provide me some guidance?

[wallace18]

I really like the wing and the side mirrors!

In your last pic it looks like you notched the inside top of the door panel around the dash. I haven't yet put those top two screws in mine that locks that in place yet, as my door cards haven't arrived yet (tracking shows today though) and I want to see how that area all comes together first. I was planning on pushing the top of the door panels outwards to align the body line of the door with the body line of the fender, the manual does not provide any specifics. This requires further trimming of the return lip of the fenders. Can you provide me some guidance?

I had to trim the doors to clear the dash on the sides. Also I do not care for the way the door panels were suppose to go on. I modified them a lot. I am not ready to install them yet but I'll post pics when I do.

[Frank818]

Why did you modify them?

[AZPete]

Stunning!

[wallace18]

Why did you modify them?

I did not like the way they looked on top of the door.

[Canadian818]

The wheels look incredible, what are they?

[wallace18]

The wheels look incredible, what are they?
Read further back in the thread. They are MB boost wheels from Discount tire. Custom painted by Huegenics,

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[wallace18]

I finished up the rear of the car. Also finished the drivers side door panel. I am not totally happy with the result but it was the best I could do. I wanted to match some of the aluminum trim in the interior. All that I have left is passenger door panel, hidden radio antenna, title, tag and I am all ready to go.

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[AZPete]

Love your rear end . . . er, did I just say that? I like the cut-outs and the FFR and 818 emblems. It's nice to see how the door panel fits. The square front inside corner looks strange, eh? Very nice work.

[wallace18]

I was not happy with my drivers door panel still. I decided to move my aluminum trim under the top of the door. I still wanted it on the inside to match the other trim in the interior. I think it looks better now. The S/S fasteners match the rest of the outside of the body now for a cleaner look, IMO. If I had to do it again I would come up with something different for sure. Also check your rear wheel liner and make sure it clears your brake line on suspension travel. I had to clearance mine. Pics to follow.

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[metalmaker12]

Either way looks good, I personal liked the piece on top, but would have made it black to match panel. It all still looks killer. I mounted my plastic type drivers door panel today. I posted a video, check it out. I am pretty happy with the panels. I will prob have them covered at some point but the look pretty good as is.

[AZPete]

Nice work on the door, Tom. Nice work all over.

[wallace18]

I am finally done with the kit part now. I put about 10 miles on it today around the neighborhood. It is a little squirrelly above 90. Not sure what is going on. I need to check the alignment . I have to get it titled, tag and insured. Hopefully after NOPI this weekend. Weather is kind of iffy for Sat. I have a weatherproof cover. Here is some more photos.

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[wleehendrick]

I really like the darker tinted humps and vente in the sunlight!

You mind sharing your wheel/tire specs (width/diameter/offset, etc...) and clearance/rubbing issues (or lack there-of).

Also, any scraping with the splitter on the road? Have fun at NOPI...

Thanks,

Lee

[wallace18]

After NOPi I will post all the details. So far no rubs or hits. Knock on wood. LOL.

[AZPete]

Beautiful. You've got to like a guy who says he did 90 around the neighborhood.

[Bob_n_Cincy]

Tom
How did the brakes feel?
Bob

[Xusia]

Can you please share where you got the "818" emblem on the back?

[nkw8181]

Hey I am on the fence about the defuser, are you happy with it?

[wallace18]

Tom
How did the brakes feel?
Bob

They are perfect IMO. I can lock them up if needed but easy to modulate. I have slight front bias as I prefer.

[wallace18]

Can you please share where you got the "818" emblem on the back?

I got it from a pep boys auto parts store. It was separate numbers.

[wallace18]

Hey I am on the fence about the defuser, are you happy with it?

I like the looks but I had to make a special tow hook since it covers the frame where I normally tied it down in my trailer. I use the holes in the front LCA's to tie down the front.

[JeromeS13]

I like the looks but I had to make a special tow hook since it covers the frame where I normally tied it down in my trailer. I use the holes in the front LCA's to tie down the front.

Would you mind posting a picture of how and where you incorporated your tow hook? That's on my to do list.

Thanks!

[wleehendrick]

Can you please share where you got the "818" emblem on the back?

FYI... I just ordered some faux carbon fiber badges off ebay... You can select what letter/numbers you want (two 8's and one 1 were just a few bucks).

Since I got the aero kit, and a set of carbon fiber scuff plates from Craig for the hood pins, I wanted to keep the theme going!

[Frank818]

What were your search words for that?
"Carbon fiber badges" doesn't seem to give me what you mention.

[wleehendrick]

What were your search words for that?
"Carbon fiber badges" doesn't seem to give me what you mention.

Here's what I ordered:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/-/220923533296

Shipped, but haven't received them yet.

[Frank818]

Ok these do come up on the search "carbon fiber badges".
I'll think about it, but would look nice on mine as well!

[AZPete]

Frank, you could go with Roman numerals for a more cerebral look: DCCCXVIII

:)

[gwarden]

Here's what I ordered:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/-/220923533296

Shipped, but haven't received them yet.
Let us know how they work out

[Frank818]

Very funny Pete. lolll And true!

[wallace18]

Would you mind posting a picture of how and where you incorporated your tow hook? That's on my to do list.

Thanks!

here is 2 photos. I used a S/S U-bolt in the last tube and reinforced it with a plate to the trans mounting plate. It seems to work good so far. I wrapped the tube with a high grade fuel line to black it out. I pull the car in my trailer with an electric winch.

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[wallace18]

NOPI Nationals are a different type event for sure Having fun and the 818 is drawing lots of attention. Most never heard about it. Handing out lots of info and DVD's. Rain came in . Sunday is supposed to be sunny.

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[wallace18]

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I had a great day at the NOPI Nationals. Weather was perfect Sunday. The crowd loved the 818. I answered questions, handed out info and DVD's all day. NOPI used the car in a professional photo shoot with the NOPI girls. Can you say Wow! Honest Marsha I only looked and did not touch. LOL. I was fortunate to take first place in the Street Kit car division. Thanks to FFR, VCP, Huegenics, Forum members and my lovely wife Marsha.

[Wayne Presley]

Congrats Tom! Too bad there aren't any pretty girls at the NOPI events...

[wleehendrick]

I was fortunate to take first place in the Street Kit car division.

http://img.xcitefun.net/users/2012/04/291617,xcitefun-congratulations1.gif

[Aloha818]

Congratulations! Great to see the new 818 getting attention and recognition. Good job!

[TahoeTim]

I read through all 11 pages and didn't find or see the details on wheels, tires, offsets. Imho your wheels fit perfectly.

Would you mind sharing the details?

[flynntuna]

+1 on the congrats, it's amazing how low the car appears, your kneeling and leaning forward and still your head is above the windshield.

[wallace18]

I read through all 11 pages and didn't find or see the details on wheels, tires, offsets. Imho your wheels fit perfectly.

Would you mind sharing the details?


They are MB boost wheels from Discount tire. 18x7.5 with 48mm backspacing. I used 10 mm spacers front and back. Tires are Kumho ecsta ast 215/35 18 front and 225/40 18 back. . This is all the info I have. I hope this helps.

[wallace18]

Congrats Tom! Too bad there aren't any pretty girls at the NOPI events...

That is what I told Marsha! LOL.

[TahoeTim]

thanks, plenty of info.

[blueoval_bowtie_guy]

Way to go Tom!

[wallace18]

Had my own Factory Five display at the Hot Rods for Heroes show today in Gainesville.FL. I handed out FFR DVD's and 818 info. Also took best paint trophy with my 33. My wife drove the 33 to the show. I might not get it back. LOL.

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[Mechie3]

Nice looking collection you've got.

Can you post a picture of the fender/door/windhshield junction? My doors leave a large gap at the junction at the top just in front of the mirror.

[wallace18]

Nice looking collection you've got.

Can you post a picture of the fender/door/windhshield junction? My doors leave a large gap at the junction at the top just in front of the mirror.

Car is locked up in the trailer till Sunday. I'll post the photo then.

[Mitch Wright]

Great looking cars Tom. Showing a buddy pictures of the 818 on the FFR site, my wife walked by and saw the 33 and said that is my next project for her.

[Aero STI]

Tom, any good pictures of your filler tube for the boyd tank? I'm trying to sort out what I'm going to do with mine.

[wallace18]

Tom, any good pictures of your filler tube for the boyd tank? I'm trying to sort out what I'm going to do with mine.

No I do not have a picture right now. I took the metal tube from FFR and cut it in 2. Then cut the rubber hose to connect everything. You have to slant cut the rubber hose at the body so it fits nice. Next time I have the body off I'll take some photos.

[Aero STI]

No I do not have a picture right now. I took the metal tube from FFR and cut it in 2. Then cut the rubber hose to connect everything. You have to slant cut the rubber hose at the body so it fits nice. Next time I have the body off I'll take some photos.

That helps me visualize, thanks. I'll see what I can come up with. Any leaks where the tube was cut and doesn't have a bead?

[wallace18]

That helps me visualize, thanks. I'll see what I can come up with. Any leaks where the tube was cut and doesn't have a bead?

Here is the best photos I could get with the body on. No leaks so far.

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[wallace18]

Nice looking collection you've got.

Can you post a picture of the fender/door/windhshield junction? My doors leave a large gap at the junction at the top just in front of the mirror.

Here are two photos. I hope this helps you out.

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[wleehendrick]

Here is the best photos I could get with the body on. No leaks so far.

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Thanks Tom, that'll help me out too. You're work documenting popular mods, like the VCP shifter, Lokar ebrake, and Boyd tank is much appreciated.

[Aero STI]

Here is the best photos I could get with the body on. No leaks so far.

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Thank you, that's plenty good.

[Mechie3]

Thanks for the pics. Mine don't look like that. I'm amazed your fender has a decent lip on the back side. I completely trimmed mine and the door still hits it when its open only about 12". The points on my hood are longer and pointier too. I also have a big open space there. I'll have to post pics later.

[indiana818]

hi
where did you get the rear emblems? i am looking to make a set for mine
thanks
kerry

[wallace18]

Well I have been neglecting my 818 lately. I finally got off my duff and had it weighed. It came to 2060 with a full tank of gas in it, I am happy with that considering the radio, carpet and sound and heat material I added to the kit. Next is send off paper work to get title. This car will be for sale once the top shows up and is installed. I have to make room for my coupe build and some customer builds I have coming up. The car will be sold for 25 K firm . This is with the top and all the goodies I installed.

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[ehansen007]

Sell it for more please. :)

[wallace18]

Sell it for more please. :)

You can give me 25K for the car, and sell it for any price you want to. LOL.

[Canadian818]

Isn't there more than 25k in it? Why sell it so soon, and why not for much more?

[metalmaker12]

Sell it for 30 Tom, the car can bring more and will help with future values and sales.

[wallace18]

Look guys, I have the price I want for it. I am sorry if it is not to your liking. I really feel this is up to me to price it. You are all able to price yours as you see fit. I have my reasons for the sale. It is a fun car but just not for me. I built the car mostly for the experience of the build and to build a resume of FFR kits so I can do customer cars in the future. I hope you will respect my prices and wish to sell. I have always gave everyone else my respect all I ask for is the same. The kit car market is very weak right now. I have done my research. I price my stuff at my bottom line and do not dicker with anyone. If I don't get 25K it will not be sold. Well Maybe. LOL.

[RM1SepEx]

I'm with you Tom, $25K is a fair price... I do have a question: I saw the word "Top" in the posting.... please explain...

[Mechie3]

Buy toms car for $25k ,keep the top, resell car on eBay for 25k. Free top!

[wallace18]

I'm with you Tom, $25K is a fair price... I do have a question: I saw the word "Top" in the posting.... please explain...
I ordered the ffr soft top and waiting on its arrival.

[metalmaker12]

Look guys, I have the price I want for it. I am sorry if it is not to your liking. I really feel this is up to me to price it. You are all able to price yours as you see fit. I have my reasons for the sale. It is a fun car but just not for me. I built the car mostly for the experience of the build and to build a resume of FFR kits so I can do customer cars in the future. I hope you will respect my prices and wish to sell. I have always gave everyone else my respect all I ask for is the same. The kit car market is very weak right now. I have done my research. I price my stuff at my bottom line and do not dicker with anyone. If I don't get 25K it will not be sold.

Tom, your right it's your car and your price to make, I did not mean to step on toes. I just like your car and think it could fetch what Erik's sold for. You built a nice ride for sure and should have no problem selling it.

[RM1SepEx]

Buy toms car for $25k ,keep the top, resell car on eBay for 25k. Free top!

An interesting approach, for sure... I'm not quite ready to do a car purchase in Florida to get a free top for a car in Maine tho!:cool:

[tango68ss]

Well,

My son Zach and I just got back from seeing Tom's 818...PICTURES DO NOT DO THIS CAR JUSTICE!!!!! I am here to tell you it is BEAUTIFUL in the sun! The paint just pops!! The attention-to-detail and the craftmanship by Tom is incredible! As a military aviator, it pleases me to see that kind of commitment. Whomever buys this beauty will be getting MORE THAN their money's worth.

So, as Tom dropped-the-hammer on his 818, I was thrown back into the Kirkeys... When the turbo kicked in, it was like hitting afterburner in a jet! Totally *****in'!! I have run Spec Miatas and I am here to tell you that this car will STOMP on those ones...

Tom, thanks to you and Marsha for your hospitality! I will be calling you once I get my kit!

TC

P.S. when I asked my son if we should just buy Tom's car, he said,"..no, we need to build our own!".

[wallace18]

My soft top is suppose to be here tomorrow. I will post pics and document the install. I hope to get my car titled this week also. Look for it on the For sale section soon. This has been an awesome build and fun to interact with so many great folks in the forum. I am going to go get my Daytona Coupe in June from FFR and visit family in the NE. I just want to thank all that have helped me during the 818 build and FFR for such a great kit. This car is truly an E-ticket ride for sure. Special thanks to VCP and Wayne Presley for all his help and parts that made this such a great build. My hope is after my coupe that I will build kits for customers. I feel I have a certain skill set that can lend a hand to some who want a Factory Five but do not have the time, space or skills needed to build one. This is what I hope to do in the future. I will leave it in Gods hands if that comes to fruition or not. Thanks again to all. God Bless. TW.

[Frank818]

Good luck and take care!

[metalmaker12]

Good luck Tom and happy building!!!

[wallace18]

Ok I got my top today from Fed Ex about 8:30 A.M. It was packaged very nice. I am going to tell you how I installed mine and my thoughts on the top and directions. I read the Rod Tops manual cover to cover 2 times. It leaves a lot to be desired IMO. Not very thorough at all. I also watched the FFR video on the top 2 times as well. Since they used a car that had the top already installed it leaves a lot of questions also. Between the 2 I got it done fairly easy. It took me and my wife about 2.5 hours for the top and 1 hour for the side curtains. It really helps to have an assistant. Since my assistant was good looking as well it made it all the more enjoyable. You can tape all the areas where the top will mount with painters tape first. Then follow the instructions for the most part. I used an 1/8" and 3/8" drill bits and riveted the parts on instead of drilling and taping the 8-32 screws. My windshield was fiberglass where the front part went on. No way drilling and taping into that will work. Maybe later windshields are different. Mount the center clamp first for sure then the side ones for the windshield part of the top. Remember measure and check twice before drilling. The rest just followed the instructions for the most part. The side curtains I riveted the Velcro circle instead of gluing them. The adhesive is junk and does not last 15 seconds IMO. I think it looks great on my car. I like how you can see out of it so well from the inside when it is installed. Very little flapping around at 70mph. It takes 2 people about 10 minutes to install after the first time. It is not a Miata MX-5 top. So do not think it is that kind of top, With the rear window zipped out it has good airflow thru it. It will keep you from getting wet but not dry in the rain. I do not recommend it for very rainy days. Overall I am pleased with it, several of my neighbors think it looks better with the top than without. I like it both ways. Is it worth the price? To me yes, but not everyone may think so. I do not think it will store easy in the car IMO. I will either leave the house with it on or off. There is no room in my car for it to store anyway. Since I am among the first customer to install it I hope all this helps future builders. Here are some photos.

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[wallace18]

Please take note that I was done with most of my 818 before the measurements for the windshield and rear pin locations came out from FFR. Mine are a little off in all areas. Still the top fit easy and IMO looks good. It could be tighter in some places but I attribute that to my measurements being off. That is the price I paid for being and early builder and doing it so quickly. It sure keeps the sun off of us and makes riding in the direct sun more enjoyable for sure. I can tell you that the hardtop and P/W I installed on my 33 was better weather protection but still was not weather tight like a production car. These are kit cars after all. Keep that in mind. These are for pure enjoyment. Not to be confused with a production car that cost lots more and has millions of dollars in R&D put into it. IMO it is a nice addition to my 818 and if I ever build another I would put the top on again.




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[Mechie3]

Thanks for all the pics!

[AZPete]

Thanks for the details! I've been committed to the soft top since the beginning - adding A/C - so I'm glad to now see what I'm getting. Looks beautiful!

[bompus]

Awesome man.. Just ordered my top last week and I was a bit nervous but now feel much better with your review.

[ehansen007]

I think the top is going to be one of those things I'll buy once I'm done spending money on the car for a month or so. :)

[wallace18]

Had a nice afternoon with Joe Greeves. He is a freelance photographer and journalist. He did an article and photo shoot of my car today. Hopefully it will appear in Complete Kit Car magazine from London, England as well as Kit Car Builder digital magazine here in the states. Over 1000 photos were taken. I learned a ton from Joe about how to take good car photos so they get published. He also rode in the back of my pickup with my wife Marsha driving. He got some cool action shots from the bed of the truck. I gave him a ride and he was very impressed with the acceleration of the car. I mention all of the forum members who helped as well as VCP and Wayne Presley. Also my painter from Huegenics. And of course FFR. Thanks to all the car is really a part of all of us on the forum. I could not have finished so nice without all of your help.

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[metalmaker12]

Very cool Tom!!

[wallace18]

I am getting my title tomorrow from the Florida DMV. So my 818S is now officially for sale. 25K firm. You can PM me or email wallace18@gru.net for details. Everything you need to know is in my build thread. Possible delivery in enclosed trailer under the right circumstances.

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[Frank818]

This is really a great deal! Lucky the buyer will be!

[CptTripps]

Damn...that's a great car at a great price. If I had it now, I'd be all over that.

I'm ordering a kit this week, and am looking at 6-8mos for delivery. That gives me time to finish my current project. Great build...good luck!

[wallace18]

Took the 818 out to the local cruise in last night. Answered about 100 what is it questions. Car is very tight with windows zipped in. I was surprised. Marsha brought her BRZ for the chairs and dog. LOL. First time I drove the 818s like a normal person on the road. Truly an aural experience and the car just reacts to your thoughts almost as far as steering, braking and accel. While it is a stiff ride the ability to maneuver at will is so much fun. Feedback as far as steering and seat is truly remarkable. I can imagine in the right hands this car would embarrass a lot of high end sports cars.

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[Aloha818]

Took the 818 out to the local cruise in last night. Answered about 100 what is it questions. Car is very tight with windows zipped in. I was surprised. Marsha brought her BRZ for the chairs and dog. LOL. First time I drove the 818s like a normal person on the road. Truly an aural experience and the car just reacts to your thoughts almost as far as steering, braking and accel. While it is a stiff ride the ability to maneuver at will is so much fun. Feedback as far as steering and seat is truly remarkable. I can imagine in the right hands this car would embarrass a lot of high end sports cars.

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Looks like fun! So have you come up with a simple answer to "what is it?". Otherwise it's long day explaining that it's a kit car, that's not really a kit car.

[wallace18]

Looks like fun! So have you come up with a simple answer to "what is it?". Otherwise it's long day explaining that it's a kit car, that's not really a kit car.

Not really. I wish I could but the car is so different it is hard for some to grasp.

[Aero STI]

Tom, how difficult is it to get in and out of the car with the top installed? I was playing around with hardtop designs last night and I feel it will be a very awkward entry/exit..

[wleehendrick]

Tom, how difficult is it to get in and out of the car with the top installed? I was playing around with hardtop designs last night and I feel it will be a very awkward entry/exit..

I had no problem getting into/out of the FFR's red 818 (with the soft top on) at the Huntington Beach Cruise in (although I'm 5"11", 185lbs, in decent shape and flexible). I noticed a lot of people trying it out, and a few had issues, but no-one got stuck! If you're well over 6". have a big belly and/or bad knees/back, it could be problematic, but otherwise, not as bad as expected. Look on YouTube for videos of people getting into an Lotus Elise... pretty similar.

[flynntuna]

I had the same experience at HB, though, getting in was easy, getting out needed a bit more effort.

[wallace18]

I am 6'3" and can get in and out fine. I am 56 years old. My wife is 5 years older and has difficulty. I guess it is how limber you are. LOL. I can even get in and out with the window zipped in. Though that is not easy.

[grayghost]

Wallace18, Hello I am coming to the party a little late but am very interested in how you mounted your after market inter cooler in the car. Like you I have a after market
unit and am trying to design the best way to attach the unit to the frame. I have a Grimspeed inter cooler, and believe it is money well spent.
Any help you could give would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. Grayghost

[wallace18]

Wallace18, Hello I am coming to the party a little late but am very interested in how you mounted your after market inter cooler in the car. Like you I have a after market
unit and am trying to design the best way to attach the unit to the frame. I have a Grimspeed inter cooler, and believe it is money well spent.
Any help you could give would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. Grayghost
It is an AMR unit. I made my own brackets from the trans to support it.

[R.Spec]

I have too much fun with this.

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[tango68ss]

R.Spec, you are the photoshop KING! That is one of the colors I want for my 818 and since that is me, I can now envision it!! Thanks! (BTW, sorry Tom)

TC

[wallace18]

No problem. It looks cool in black. LOL.

[C.Plavan]

Black is not a color, it a job :)

[metalmaker12]

Black is not a color, it a job :)

Ditto

[wallace18]

Picked up my coupe today. I saw the 818 wiper upgrade. Very nice. It can easily be added to a built car IMO. New CF nice too. FFR building another R for the ultimate car challenge. Saw all my friends at FFR. Dave gave Marsha a tour. Nice folks. Also the new tank is much better unit. I think it will work much better than the 33 tank. Sorry no pics. camera battery failed.

[Frank818]

Also the new tank is much better unit. I think it will work much better than the 33 tank.

What new tank? FFR is building a new tank for the 818?

[wallace18]

What new tank? FFR is building a new tank for the 818?
It has been talked about for some time. It is smaller behind the driver giving more legroom. Not sure of its release date.

[wallace18]

Here is some photos to prove a tall guy fits in my 818S. My friend Richard is 6'5" tall with a 36" inseam. He was wearing cowboy boots. He had plenty of leg, foot and headroom even with the top on. He was able to drive the car and operate all the pedals and shifting fine. Here are some photos to prove it. Note that I did not use the FFR tank. And yes the car is still for sale for 25K firm.

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[Frank818]

Just to clarify, your steering column has NOT been compressed, right?

[wallace18]

Just to clarify, your steering column has NOT been compressed, right?

Not sure what you mean. I did not alter it any way. It still has the tilt function and was tilted up in the photos.

[Frank818]

I am referring to this http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showthread.php?14484-RoRi-s-Custom-Parts-Steering-Column-Spacers

Collapsing the steering column. You did not need to do it and a 6'5" guy fits.

[RM1SepEx]

Flat wheel, minimum column spacer (thin quick dis-connect perhaps) the key is his aftermarket seat being low, way back, and angled... notice how bent his legs are. It all comes down to seating position and geometry.

[EricScottZehnder]

Fits, but I'm 6'4" with a 34" inseam and I know what it feels like to drive a car when the angle of your legs looks like that. Heel-toe is impossible and the whole experience is poor. Granted, I'm sure that the average person looking to buy this car from you will be less than 6' tall and everything will work out great for them.

[RM1SepEx]

Ergonomics... problem is everyone is built different and also feels comfortable in a different position. All depends on the person... what is comfortable position for you might be unbearable for me...

[AZPete]

Eric, Dan is correct that we are all different and one great thing about FFR cars is each of us can build it to fit . . . if you want. In the much bigger world of FFR roadsters the same question is posed and many taller guys (6'7"+) have made it work. In my roadster I mounted Kirkey seats, moved the steering wheel and pedals. In my 818 I've moved the steering wheel and cut down the Subaru seats. After more time I may get other seats but the 818 is easier to get into/out of because the door is hinged much more forward compared to the roadster. I'm 6"3", 32" inseam, 235 lbs. If you want to make it work, you can.

[bbjones121]

What mirrors did you use?

[wallace18]

Hollywood mirrors from Speedway. It is in the build thread.

[bbjones121]

Thanks, i tried finding.

[wallace18]

There have been some questions about my pics of the soft top. I took the first ones right after I mounted it. Don't forget I was the first customer install of the top. I since have adjusted the rear straps for a much tighter look. The top seals near the front of the humps. The sides are a styling element IMO. Here is current pics.

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[wallace18]

Well it looks like I sold my 818. 2 really good guys near FFR bought the car. The good news for me is I get to build an 818 for one of them as well. I am leaving for MA on Tuesday the 29th to deliver the car and pick up the 818S kit to bring home with the donor parts. I'll start his build thread next week. Here are some closing shots of the car getting loaded to head to its new home, I am happy and sad at the same time. It is such a beautiful car and is so fast. But it has been my dream to do customer builds and now I get to fulfill that wish. I hope my build was helpful to some of you as some of you have been helpful to me. My type 65 is going on the back burner for a time till I build this 818. We should all have such problems. LOL.

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[metalmaker12]

Well it looks like I sold my 818. 2 really good guys near FFR bought the car. The good news for me is I get to build an 818 for one of them as well. I am leaving for MA on Tuesday the 29th to deliver the car and pick up the 818S kit to bring home with the donor parts. I'll start his build thread next week. Here are some closing shots of the car getting loaded to head to its new home, I am happy and sad at the same time. It is such a beautiful car and is so fast. But it has been my dream to do customer builds and now I get to fulfill that wish. I hope my build was helpful to some of you as some of you have been helpful to me. My type 65 is going on the back burner for a time till I build this 818. We should all have such problems. LOL.

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I personally know both the new owners and they will take good care of this cool ride. Happy building man!!!

[RM1SepEx]

Congrats Tom! Talk about killing two birds with one stone!

Chris, going to be some great get togethers around where you are over a few beers or what?

[Aloha818]

Congratulations! Looking forward to watching your next build progress. Should be a lot easier the second time!

[AZPete]

Congrats. We all know your buyer got a great car and I also look forward to your innovations on the next 818.

[Kalstar]

I'll be watching your next build very closely. Looking forward to the outcome. Wink wink.

[tango68ss]

Well it looks like I sold my 818. 2 really good guys near FFR bought the car. The good news for me is I get to build an 818 for one of them as well. I am leaving for MA on Tuesday the 29th to deliver the car and pick up the 818S kit to bring home with the donor parts. I'll start his build thread next week. Here are some closing shots of the car getting loaded to head to its new home, I am happy and sad at the same time. It is such a beautiful car and is so fast. But it has been my dream to do customer builds and now I get to fulfill that wish. I hope my build was helpful to some of you as some of you have been helpful to me. My type 65 is going on the back burner for a time till I build this 818. We should all have such problems. LOL.

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Tom,

Glad to hear about the sale! The guy buying this beauty is getting one helluva vehicle at one helluva price! Sad that I won't see it when I visit (since I'll be picking your brain on my eventual build) but glad you have moved it on so you can continue your "retirement dream"! I hope we will continue to see this great car hanging around these pages!

See you when I return!
TC