What did you do on your GTM today?

[LCD Gauges]

The little yellow man found the cam sensor was not fully seated. This would explain (some, if not all of) the backfire issue!

I was very tempted to fire up the motor tonight, but I didn't want to piss off the neighbours, and I didn't have my camera setup to capture the moment...

Truth is: If my camera was setup, the neighbours would be feeling some rumble on my behalf. ;)

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[Taz Rules]

Pm's returned to Kalstar and Narkosys..

OOSS... I wanna see that vid soon!
Screw the neighbours....bring on da noize!!

[Fraser D]

Well I spent today fixing the roll cage misalignment issue. The body can now sit on the chassis straight/square with a gap around the “A-Pillars” and the halo.
Started making seat and harness mounting points which I will post photos of when completed.
The net result is a car that is half disassembled now. :-(

[Cobra 61]

Today, I went out into the shop and looked at the battle scares and admired the fact that Elliott Forbes- Robinson raced my GTM for five hours in the longest endurance race in North America. A true ICON and gentleman. Not to mentioned he turned the fastest laps the car has ever done!

[Kalstar]

Photoshop fun....Thx Taz

What do you thing about these for a spare set of wheels. I already have them....I would just paint them to match the car. I will be using the other wheels most of the time but since these are sitting on the shelf, I figured might be fun to photoshop them and see if I can make it work.

What is your thoughts?

[Kalstar]

For some reason the Copperhead center section reminds me of claws, which is a good thing...but then again its late and I might just be losing it.....

[Presto51]

I vote for the I Like The Spare Wheels with the painted center section

Nicely done Mr. Kalstar

[Kalstar]

Going back together today....both doors rehung and nose put back on.

What do you think? The door frame is body color. Should it stay Copperhead or paint it black? See pic? I am up in the air.

Please excuse all the primer dust. It really is shinny under all that dust.

[Kempo]

Very nice Jim. Great color choice. I would paint the window frame black. If left that color it will make the black window weather strip stand out against the lighter body color.

[sk7500]

2 votes for black

Very nice Jim. Great color choice. I would paint the window frame black. If left that color it will make the black window weather strip stand out against the lighter body color.

[sressue]

Another vote for black.

[Fraser D]

I vote for the a black frame as well.

[carbon fiber]

black for sure.

[Kalstar]

Black it is. Thx guys.

[Joe Mush]

I would do black

[LCD Gauges]

My vote is for pink!

[VD2021]

Going back together today....both doors rehung and nose put back on.

What do you think? The door frame is body color. Should it stay Copperhead or paint it black? See pic? I am up in the air.

Please excuse all the primer dust. It really is shinny under all that dust.

Jim,
Definitely black-out the frame surroundings. That was one of the items Tom brought to my attention right away.

It says "kit" if left a body color that is not black. The black will add some OEM look and feel.

[Roger Reid]

" I see a red door and I want it painted black..."

[Kalstar]

So many "pink" jokes that are just not clean enough to share here.

Doors are being painted black as I write this. Thx guys!

[kabacj]

Added some heat shielding to my ac compressor and starter.


http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w389/kabacj/Factory%20Five%20GTM%20roll%20cage%20modifications/8A7FF6BC-2793-42FF-8D1D-FFCE85969511-2661-000006CC67F3E769.jpg

First I wrapped the tubes on the compressor. Then I added an aluminum shield. A bit of overkill but it's easy to do now. Since the kooks down tube is very close I figure less heat is always better.

http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w389/kabacj/Factory%20Five%20GTM%20roll%20cage%20modifications/706655E9-B1D1-438D-8514-B0EA1148A413-2661-000006CC6ACF202B.jpg


I wrapped the starter with heat shield and secured the wrap with safety wire. I made a hem around the edges with wire. Then used safety wire to secure sections of the hemmed edge to what ever was convenient.

http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w389/kabacj/Factory%20Five%20GTM%20roll%20cage%20modifications/250B10C9-A52F-4CB2-A6C9-9AAF8BD7239F-2661-000006F6439257AB.jpg

This way I was able to pinch the wrap around the shifter cables and still secure the wrap so the starter is shielded from radiant heart.

John

[LCD Gauges]

Nice work; that is something I definitely want to add around the starter, and starter wires.

Is that a solid mount I see there?

[kabacj]

Is that a solid mount I see there?

Hi Tino. I went with the Pfadt poly mounts. Not solid but reasonably stiff. Definitely stops the motor from rocking. And they are well made.

John

[Kalstar]

John, I think F5R should bring you in as a consultant. What you have done to that kit... makes an already great kit a fantastic kit. I confess, I look forward to studing your photos every time you post. keep 'em coming.

[kabacj]

John, I think F5R should bring you in as a consultant. What you have done to that kit... makes an already great kit a fantastic kit. I confess, I look forward to studing your photos every time you post. keep 'em coming.

Ha thanks Kalstar. Factory five would be out of business in a second! I'm glad the ideas are entertaining. I can't wait to see your car as well. Think it will be ready for the mooch fest?

[Kalstar]

Wing is now part of the car. To my best knowledge it is the only Carbon Fiber wing of its like. It was custom made for me last year by fellow member Thomas#142. Awesome fit and finish.

John it should be close by moochfest.

[LCD Gauges]

Purchased some breakers, and wire for the welder. Time to start tacking the exhaust, and getting the seat rails mounted.

I'm also gathering parts for an exhaust evacuation for the PCV system.

I'll be doing my go-kart testing in the snow; it's here to stay I think!

[Joe Mush]

Jim that looks awesome

[claybags]

Paid for my new GTM!!! Arrrrgggghhhh Here we go again! LOL

[rev2xs]

Finally fixed my leaky fuel tanks. About a week and a half ago, they started leaking just out of nowhere (known issue for GTM owners). For the last 3 years that the tanks have been installed in the car (and almost always had fuel in them), NOW they decided to leak. Apparently, the gasoline proof RTV sealer i used to seal up the crossover attachment FFR have us install decided to completely and totally, inexplicably, catastrophically dissolve into a blue sludge. Lifetime guarantee my a$%se. Unless a lifetime in the mind of the company who made this crap is 3 years, in which case it worked perfectly. A Sludge which i had to clean out from the inside of the tanks by the way. Thank god for the fuel filter. It completed its mission in life nicely and saved the fuel rails from getting that crap in them. But it was a kamikaze mission though i'm afraid. So yeah, replaced the fuel filter too. Royal P I T A...

[crash]

As I have said all along, I have never seen the wisdom in cutting holes into perfectly good gas tanks. There has to be a better way. The aluminum tanks are definitely the ultimate solution, but there has to be a solution that does not include the cross over tube that will work well and be reasonably priced. Still don't know what that might be, but there has to be SOMETHING.

[Kalstar]

Paid for my new GTM!!! Arrrrgggghhhh Here we go again! LOL

Welcome back. What are you going to do different this time? Other than sell the car before its done. :-)

[Kalstar]

Painted the uprights black. Looks much better. Thx for the advise.

[Fraser D]

It most certainly does look better.

[Taz Rules]

Yup. The black was the answer.
Unless you wanted to try the pink, that is...... :confused:

[Kalstar]

All wraped up like a present. Picking her up tomorrow from the body shop. The plastic wrap is distorting the shape a bit. The back is not square and the wheels are really round :rolleyes:.

[WIS89]

Kalstar-

That's what I call safe driving; I have never seen a car condom before!! Sorry, just had to do it! ;-o)

Regards,

Steve

[LCD Gauges]

Awesome, you must be on edge!

Today I'm working on the welder install. Time to tack up the exhaust, and seat rails.

[Taz Rules]

at least you didn't follow up by telling him to "keep the rubber on the road"
sorry, I couldn't resist either :o


Kalstar-

That's what I call safe driving; I have never seen a car condom before!! Sorry, just had to do it! ;-o)

Regards,

Steve

[Kalstar]

at least you didn't follow up by telling him to "keep the rubber on the road"
sorry, I couldn't resist either :o

I was thinking about posting the pic as "best caption needed" before I posted it in this thread.

My contribution is.....Finally at GTM that keeps rain water out.

[fact5racer]

I picked up my fourth GTM kit yesterday :-)

[Kalstar]

Glad to hear you made it back from you hellaous drive yesterday.

[sk7500]

Took a 60 mile ride yesterday. It was glorious. Don't worry I cut out 39 minutes of boring video. I need lot's more video practice.

http://youtu.be/V90lkZhuZ9M

[Kalstar]

Wheels came in today. Boy are they light!

[Edgeman]

My Mendeola has arrived, it may be the first one in Canada? I had it shipped to the border storage to save on shipping.
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[VD2021]

Started working on it again. Hadn't touched the build since early November.

[RumRunner]

Finally got back to it after the holidays. Really hadn't done much since September. In that last three weeks I've tackled a few things:

1. Took the body off to get it ready to prime.
2. Replaced the FFR rear shock mount with the QRP shock mount.
3. Replaced the FFR suspension with the QRP Genesis package.
4. Installed front and rear sway bars using the brackets from MikePMS.
5. Got my seat belts mounted using MikePMS's brackets and checked for clearance with the seats. All good.
6. Re-bent the passenger center tunnel aluminum to allow the passenger seat to be positioned more inward
7. Replaced my oil pressure sensor with a new version that works with my quad gauge.
8. Upholstered the fuel tank covers and rear wall with the black suede, and installed all rivnuts to hold it all together. And it all fits.
9. Today worked on some final bodywork on the doors to get them ready for prime. One more day and they should be good to go.
10. Started her up today for the first time in about 15 months. Ran beautifully. Let her warm up to operating temperature and ket it running for about 1/2 hour, just cause it sounded good!

And here are some pics that show all the stuff above.

Oh yeah, GO RAVENS!

-Michael

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[Kempo]

That's some nice progress for three weeks. Keep the momentum going.
H

[Kalstar]

Vidal, I as wondering where you went? Glad you are working on her again.



Well I broke down and purchased my baby a covered chariot. I got an outstanding deal, (or so I think) 2010 8.5x18 with beavertail in near mint condition for $3300.00.

So if anyone needs to borrow or need local (New England) transpost let me know.

[VD2021]

Vidal, I as wondering where you went? Glad you are working on her again.



Well I broke down and purchased my baby a covered chariot. I got an outstanding deal, (or so I think) 2010 8.5x18 with beavertail in near mint condition for $3300.00.

So if anyone needs to borrow or need local (New England) transpost let me know.

J,
Yeah, me too. I actually planned to pick back up the week after Christmas, But Family first.

[LS MAN]

Things are busy at QRP
Hope everyone has a great building - driving - racing season this year.

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[Taz Rules]

I'm edging closer and closer!

Reading my textbook today...on Monday I start my 21 week college course in Autobody Refinishing, Paint and Prep. I figure the tuition will more than pay for itself in savings by doing my own work. Plus, at the end of it, I'll have another trade as a bonus.

[Fraser D]

Got a present from the machine shop today ;-)
Something a little different to mount my wing.

[RumRunner]

Starting to prime!

Today the first three coats of primer were sprayed on the hood, hatch, and doors. It's great to see the pieces finally one color. My homemade paint booth worked really well - I just need a few minor mods before the next round to make it really good. And huge thanks to Ron (Presto51) for doing a great job spraying. No substitute for experience ... good thing he has plenty, because I'm certainly lacking!

Tom: (Thomas142), I love the subtle detail on the hood exhaust vents. Having it all one color really brings it together.

Next weekend I'll prime the body, wing, and mirrors. Then it's back to blocking them all. Woo hoo - can't wait .............

-Michael

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GTM #327 - LS3, Kooks, A/C, RaceLogic TC, bunch of Thomas142's parts, bunch of Shane's parts, bunch of Ted's parts, and some of Crash's parts. Thanks guys.

[VD2021]

Starting to prime!

Today the first three coats of primer were sprayed on the hood, hatch, and doors. It's great to see the pieces finally one color. My homemade paint booth worked really well - I just need a few minor mods before the next round to make it really good. And huge thanks to Ron (Presto51) for doing a great job spraying. No substitute for experience ... good thing he has plenty, because I'm certainly lacking!

Tom: (Thomas142), I love the subtle detail on the hood exhaust vents. Having it all one color really brings it together.

Next weekend I'll prime the body, wing, and mirrors. Then it's back to blocking them all. Woo hoo - can't wait .............

-Michael

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GTM #327 - LS3, Kooks, A/C, RaceLogic TC, bunch of Thomas142's parts, bunch of Shane's parts, bunch of Ted's parts, and some of Crash's parts. Thanks guys.

Michael,
Very nice.

Can you send the temp paint booth and Ron to Florida when you're done?

[claybags]

Finished up the heads and top end rebuild on my LS6. New cam, double roller chain and timing gear, high volume oil pump, lunati double springs, and push rods. Button it up and start on car if work doesn't interfere.
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[RumRunner]

This weekend got three coats of primer on the body, rear wing, and mirrors. As I said last week, it's amazing to see it all one color rather than the patchwork of red gel coat, beige bondo, blue glaze, and some black gelcoat. Couple of pinholes to fill, but really quite few. Next weekend block sand, then shoot it again with primer (if we need it) the weekend after.

And to leave without saying thanks to Ron (Presto51) would be criminal. As always, Ron's attention to detail getting the body prepared for primer and spraying it today has paid off. It looks great. Thanks Ron!

-Michael

GTM #327: In Primer

[Presto51]

Thanks Michael your quite welcome.

It really feels good to be able to see that the light at the end of the tunnel is this GTM getting on the road this spring, and not the freight train of project derailment.

If anyone thinks we’ve seen the last of the sanding blocks in action….HA,ha,ha,ha,ha

[VD2021]

This weekend got three coats of primer on the body, rear wing, and mirrors. As I said last week, it's amazing to see it all one color rather than the patchwork of red gel coat, beige bondo, blue glaze, and some black gelcoat. Couple of pinholes to fill, but really quite few. Next weekend block sand, then shoot it again with primer (if we need it) the weekend after.

And to leave without saying thanks to Ron (Presto51) would be criminal. As always, Ron's attention to detail getting the body prepared for primer and spraying it today has paid off. It looks great. Thanks Ron!

-Michael

GTM #327: In Primer


Thanks Michael your quite welcome.

It really feels good to be able to see that the light at the end of the tunnel is this GTM getting on the road this spring, and not the freight train of project derailment.

If anyone thinks we’ve seen the last of the sanding blocks in action….HA,ha,ha,ha,ha

Very nice, Gentlemen.

[Kalstar]

Nice and clean sitting in the garage. It was nerve racking driving down the road with my pride and joy in the back of the trailer (uninsured other then the liablity that extends from the truck to the trailer), knowing any text driving fool could take out years of thought and efforts. Well I got it there safe and sound last night. Wonder if my insurance would pay to repair a car that was not road worthy? On to the finishing touches.....Can't wait to get the new wheels installed!

[LCD Gauges]

Impressive stuff guys. The primer coat looks amazing on Rum's car, and Kalstar's colour is hot!

Today I painted the seat tracks with two coats of black. They have come a long way from their original Prelude format. I'm also cleaning up the wires, and dust from the cage. It's time
to start thinking permanent placement as things are getting closer to the test drive. The weather is still cold, and too much snow to allow go-karting, but that's fine as I'm awaiting
the throttle cable.

A twelve footer from a local boat shop, and no brokerage fees! (< got the idea from searching, "mid engine vehicles" to return some hits on watercraft).

[Edgeman]

I have the Mendeola in and drive lines hooked up. This Mendeola has the factor starter installed. This has been a huge mile stone for me. Its starting to get close to firing this thing up.

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[Taz Rules]

mmmmmm pretty!

Just how loud are those Kooks pipes? Is there a nice, quiet option that will keep the local constabulary from paying too much attention?

[narkosys]

It's a GTM! it is an attention magnet! :P

(the Kooks are on my parts list for when it comes down to build. Sweet set of pipes they are.)

P

[Kempo]

mmmmmm pretty!

Just how loud are those Kooks pipes? Is there a nice, quiet option that will keep the local constabulary from paying too much attention?

They aren't that loud just ask the guy that recorded this video. Looks like he was a bit surprised with the first rev up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9GIgaJMld0&sns=em

[VD2021]

mmmmmm pretty!

Just how loud are those Kooks pipes?

Very Loud. However they do sound nice. Especially to an observer as the GTM leaves or passes.

[mmaragos]

Final install of all the undercarriage close out panels and installed the skid rails too. I am done getting underneath the car until the body gets back from paint. Need to finish the firewall tomorrow.

[Kalstar]

Rumrunner, congrats on the milestone. Im sure it is a proud moment for you to get it in all one color, even if only primer. Keep the pics coming.

[RumRunner]

Rumrunner, congrats on the milestone. Im sure it is a proud moment for you to get it in all one color, even if only primer. Keep the pics coming.

Thanks Kalstar.

Beautiful day in Maryland today. Took the opportunity to go outside and wet sand the final primer coat on my hatch, doors, and mirrors. Also sprayed the final primer coats on the main body. Actually, Ron (Presto51) did the spraying. There's a picture of him ready to spray, and a link to a short video of him spraying the first coat today in my home-made spray booth. So far it's worked great. Thanks again Ron!

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http://youtu.be/FIrVHIb91sc

-Michael

[Kempo]

Thanks Kalstar.

Beautiful day in Maryland today. Took the opportunity to go outside and wet sand the final primer coat on my hatch, doors, and mirrors. Also sprayed the final primer coats on the main body. Actually, Ron (Presto51) did the spraying. There's a picture of him ready to spray, and a link to a short video of him spraying the first coat today in my home-made spray booth. So far it's worked great. Thanks again Ron!

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http://youtu.be/FIrVHIb91sc

-Michael

Cool Michael. You are now on the home stretch.

[RumRunner]

Thanks Hugo.

While I may be in the home stretch, seems like you crossed the finish line and decided to keep on going! I'm envious of the new engine!

-Michael

[VD2021]

Thanks Kalstar.

Beautiful day in Maryland today. Took the opportunity to go outside and wet sand the final primer coat on my hatch, doors, and mirrors. Also sprayed the final primer coats on the main body. Actually, Ron (Presto51) did the spraying. There's a picture of him ready to spray, and a link to a short video of him spraying the first coat today in my home-made spray booth. So far it's worked great. Thanks again Ron!

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-Michael

Michael,

Too Cool :cool:.

[The Stig]

The weather here in Charlotte was perfect for getting outside in the garage and finally tackling the replacement and re-routing of the heater hoses. When I was under the GTM replacing the heater hoses, I found the Vintage Air Heater Control Valve that Jeff Collins installed when he originally set up the heater hoses. This valve is an one way "in-line" valve that either allows water flow, or blocks it. It is also wired, and I assume that it's wired to the HVAC system wiring.

Since I knew that would be pulling the hoses and replacing them, I figured it was the perfect opportunity to switch to "Crash's" Heater by-Pass Valve solution. His kit allows for water circulation at all times. When the valve is closed, the water flow simply circulates back to the water pump. When it's open, the water flow runs through the heater core, and then back to the water pump for 100% circulation. Mike's (Crash) kit includes what looks like a vacuum type device that is supposed to be wired to a power source. It uses a vaccum hose that runs from it to the heater by-pass valve, which actually opperates the valve. I'm wondering whether or not I can with this back into the wiring source that the original Vintage Air valve was wired to?

I tried looking up the Vintage Aire inastallation instructions, but I don't know the model number of the A/C Heater system that Factory Five sells for the GTM, and I don't have the instructions that came with the system.

I would really appreciate it if some of you guys that are using the Vintage Air HVAC system, as well as Crash's Heater By-Pass Kit, could give me a heads up in terms of how this should be installed and wired. I think I've pretty much figured out the installation of how the hoses should go in, and how they should be routed. But I'm not sure about the wiring piece.

Here are a couple of picture of the Vintage Air Heater Valve installed.

http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb94/jmichaelbaskin/DSC_0087_zpsbadeaafc.jpg

http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb94/jmichaelbaskin/DSC_0086_zps117f3427.jpg


http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb94/jmichaelbaskin/DSC_0084_zpsbce64ebf.jpg

I also pulled the overflow tank out so I could reconfigure it.

I bought a 1/4" barb for the Engine Steam vent to go into the top left of the tank.



The water pump 3/4" hose will run up and over the front of the engine, across to the T-Fitting on the bottom of the Canton Tank.
The other side of the T-Fitting will be a 90 degree down to a 5/8" barb. 5/8" heater hose from "T-Fitting" to the By-Pass Valve.
The 5/8" Heater Hose from the water pump, and routed to the By-Pass Valve.
5/8" Heater hose from the By-Pass Valve to the Heater Core.
5/8" Heater hose from the Heater Core to the By-Pass Valve.



This mirrors the picture that Crash has posted for the layout / installation of the kit.

I'll post some pictures of the install as I go through it, for any others who may want/need to see it. (Either tonight or Tomorrow)


SIDE NOTE:

When I pulled the hoses, I expected to have the system drain it'self of most of the coolant. The water pump and the hoses running from it were dry. The over flow tank, was Dry. When I pulled the hoses from the heater core, they had a "little" coolant in them that drained out, but much less than expected. I haven't pulled the 5/8" hose from the Vintage Air Heater Valve yet, but I'm expecting the same. The Steam vent was corroded and rusted. (I cleaned it back up to get it ready for the new hose to the overflow tank).

I sure know now, what cause the engine to start over heating. No Water Circulation. But is was whan I traced the hoses back to the HVAC connections that I realized why... The upper Heater Hose connection was only finger tight. It's in a very tight place to be able to get a wrench in and tighten it up. But using on of my "AN fitting" wrenches, I was able to get it tight. I have no idea how long this fitting has been this lose. but at least I know right now that it is tight and should hold the coolant.

I'm just glad that I found this now, while I still had the bottom panels off, and before I had taken off for a GTM road trip... I'm also glad that I found this before something bad happend to the engine. Luckily, everything is Ok. But it could have gotten very expensive, Very fast.

I believe that things happen for a reason, but that doesn't make them any less frustrating. And for now, I think I'll just keep it at that.

Everyone be sure and double check your connections BEFORE you buttom up the bottom panels!!!!

Mike

[VD2021]

Mike,
You should have a green wire on the VA HCV and you will use it to power the vacuum solenoid in Crash's kit. I've attached the Vintage Air GenIV wiring diagram link (pdf is too large to attach) and a rough diagram of the HCV and expansion tank Mod. You can give me a call if you like.

http://www.vintageair.com/download/0607/Downloads%2006-2007/Quick%20Reference%20Wiring%20Diagrams/Gen%20IV%20Magnum%20Basic%20Wiring%20Diagram.pdf

[The Stig]

Thanks Vidal,

That confirms what I was thinking. And appreciate the diagrams. I'll go ahead and make the changes, and get the vaccum solenoid wired. Then I'll just need to reassemble the overflow can. I'm not sure what Jeff used as a sealant between the brass fittings and the aluminum tank, but man did it ever make a mess. It also caused what looked like about 50% coolant flow restriction. I've cleaned as much of that back out as I can, and plan to use a few wraps of white teflon tape on the fittings to seal it back up. Hopefully this seals it back up, because it is a huge PITA to get to these fittings with the tank in place.

I'll be in touch. I appreciate your help.

Mike

[carbon fiber]

keep on it mike, you've got a great looking car/build. the weather's getting awful nice around here...

[The Stig]

keep on it mike, you've got a great looking car/build. the weather's getting awful nice around here...

Thanks buddy.


You're right. The weather in this area is awesome right now. 65 - 70 degrees and sunny. You've gotta love it.

I plan to get the cooling system finished up in the next day or so, and then get the interior panels buttoned back up. Then I'll get the sound dampener and heat barrier installed. Then the gauges need to be wired... Not one of my strong suits, but I'll figure it out and get it done.

Then it should be ready for the Interior Shop. Wooo Hooo! (only a year and a half behind my original schedule, but who's counting?)

[Kalstar]

Installed the sound proofer. It is new new product from GT Sound Control called Liqui-damp. It is a inexpensive alternative to products like Lizard Skin (about 1/3 the cost for the same coverage area). Goes on very easy and covers a large area with very little product. My 9 year old son and I in about an hour, covered the whole floor, both fire walls, entire tunnel and all upright aluminum with about 2 quarts. Not only will it cut down on road noise and heat, but will definitely help eliminate interior rattles, squeaks and that aluminum tin sound. In my mind, the extra 10 lbs in weight and $60 spent (including shipping for 1 gallon) is without question worth it.

[Edgeman]

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Drive shafts are in, Kooks bolted down and I have a working E-brake without any modifications. Battery went in without having to remove any of the AC stuff. Clutch line and speed sensor on order.

[The Stig]

Finished the replacing the heater hoses and re-routing them in order to minimize air pockets in the system. I went ahead and installed Crash's heater by-pass valve kit. I has a minor irrigation system emergency that had to be taken care or. (My wifes flowers weren't getting enough water). Turns out that the company that replaced my home A/C units, knocked out one of the control wires to the irrigation valves. That's fixed, so life is good. However, I ran out of time to get the vacuum pump solenoid wired. I'll do that this weekend when I'm back.

It feels good to get back outside and make some progress here and there.

Mike

[kaloper]

Finally had a nice day yesterday and was able to get the car out and started. Posted a short video of the start. Had to run it through the neighborhood before I put it away (no video, but it did happen). The first race is in five weeks.

Karl
GTM 362


http://youtu.be/OADtGYCDcUU

[kabacj]

[QUOTE=kaloper;94263]Finally had a nice day yesterday and was able to get the car out and started. Posted a short video of the start. Had to run it through the neighborhood before I put it away (no video, but it did happen). The first race is in five weeks.

Karl
GTM 362



Great to hear you are almost there Karl. Where are you taking the GTM for the first event?

John

[Kalstar]

Looking great Karl, glad to see it coming togeather.

[RumRunner]

There are milestones in every GTM build when the builder feels a real sense of accomplishment, of a job well done, of taking the time to do things right and being rewarded with a hurdle overcome. We've all felt this first when we take the bare chassis and hang the suspension; then progress to brake lines and wiring; when we squeeze that engine into the tiny space it needs to fit and fire it up for the first time; when we are finally able to hold the clutch fork in just the right position as we slide in the pin; getting the body mounted just so; sanding, and bondo, and sanding, and priming, and sanding, and guide coating, and sanding until every square inch of the body glows. But for me, these all pale in comparison to finally getting that rear wall glass installed in the rubber moulding and using the closing tool to close it up. Holy guacamole, Batman! Now that's an accomplishment!

-Michael

GTM #327, primed and ready to paint, and the rear wall glass installed! Woo Hoo!

[The Stig]

There are milestones in every GTM build when the builder feels a real sense of accomplishment, of a job well done, of taking the time to do things right and being rewarded with a hurdle overcome. We've all felt this first when we take the bare chassis and hang the suspension; then progress to brake lines and wiring; when we squeeze that engine into the tiny space it needs to fit and fire it up for the first time; when we are finally able to hold the clutch fork in just the right position as we slide in the pin; getting the body mounted just so; sanding, and bondo, and sanding, and priming, and sanding, and guide coating, and sanding until every square inch of the body glows. But for me, these all pale in comparison to finally getting that rear wall glass installed in the rubber moulding and using the closing tool to close it up. Holy guacamole, Batman! Now that's an accomplishment!

-Michael

GTM #327, primed and ready to paint, and the rear wall glass installed! Woo Hoo!

I'm glad to know that I'm not the only one who thought that was a PITA. Congrats on the accomplishment Michael!

[Fraser D]

There are milestones in every GTM build when the builder feels a real sense of accomplishment, of a job well done, of taking the time to do things right and being rewarded with a hurdle overcome. We've all felt this first when we take the bare chassis and hang the suspension; then progress to brake lines and wiring; when we squeeze that engine into the tiny space it needs to fit and fire it up for the first time; when we are finally able to hold the clutch fork in just the right position as we slide in the pin; getting the body mounted just so; sanding, and bondo, and sanding, and priming, and sanding, and guide coating, and sanding until every square inch of the body glows. But for me, these all pale in comparison to finally getting that rear wall glass installed in the rubber moulding and using the closing tool to close it up. Holy guacamole, Batman! Now that's an accomplishment!

-Michael

GTM #327, primed and ready to paint, and the rear wall glass installed! Woo Hoo!

I tried to crack a beer to celebrate completing that PITA task but had to get my wife to open it for me because my fingers had locked up! ;-)
Congratulations!

[mendo]

these all pale in comparison to finally getting that rear wall glass installed in the rubber moulding and using the closing tool to close it up. Holy guacamole, Batman! Now that's an accomplishment!

-Michael

GTM #327, primed and ready to paint, and the rear wall glass installed! Woo Hoo!


you can try the string method, it worked for me. put a small nylon string all the way around in the groove crossing over itself by about a foot, really hose it down with windex, have someone push on the glass gently in place while you pull the string out from the other side. it pulls the rubber over the edge and snaps it in place. it does take a co-ordinated effort and it works.

[kaloper]

Great to hear you are almost there Karl. Where are you taking the GTM for the first event?

John[/QUOTE]

Hi John...I am building the car primarily for Autocrossing and our first event is the first weekend in April. I plan to get some track time at Summit Point soon after that. There is alot of work to get done in just a couple weeks. Hope the car passes Tech with the doors duct tapped shut. Ordered a set of Hoosier A6's yesterday and my debit card went into cardiac arrest. Looking forward to your build updates and driver feedback.

Jim (kalstar)...Thanks. Waiting to see your finished build.

Karl

[Edgeman]

One step closer to getting my car started, ISIS powered up with fuel pump wired, ignition and starter wires connected. I still want to be running by May 1 or sooner. Oil catch can installed for the Mendeola maybe the valve cover too.

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[Taz Rules]

I know, I know, not a GTM. But still, I'm prepping my skillset

Shot this rail dragster in a custom pearl and metalflake combo.
3 coats of Glasurit 90 Line white,
3 midcoats of Carizma arctic white effect powder,
4 coats of clear.
Monday I sand, add the red 2-tone, and add 3 more coats of clear.

In order to get the pearl/flake consistent, we had to make a wooden frame and I had to walk the length of the car with each pass.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGYOGtJD27A&feature=youtu.be

I figure learning to do this kind of thing counts as prepping me for the candy over carbon fiber body that I want to do on my GTM. (sigh...dream)

Thanks for your indulgence on this.

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[Kalstar]

Spent 6hrs fitting the dash.... After 2 1/2 hours with a file and dremmel I decided to strip the vinyl, cut the passenger pod in half, fit it properly, then re glass. Finally finished all the race mesh and tinted both front lens. Not real happy with how the lens came out, I'll see how they look when they are fully dry.

[mmaragos]

Spent 6hrs fitting the dash.... After 2 1/2 hours with a file and dremmel I decided to strip the vinyl, cut the passenger pod in half, fit it properly, then re glass. Finally finished all the race mesh and tinted both front lens. Not real happy with how the lens came out, I'll see how they look when they are fully dry.

I am on fitting the dash too. Same issue with the passenger pod. I am going to glass a section in between the waterfall and center console to close up that HUGE gap. Soon as I am done fixing and fitting that mess, I need to find someone to do the upholstery work. I am glad I went for black on my headlight buckets, it hides the imperfections in my lens cover paint job. :D

Aside from that...I think I am down to mostly just interior work. Did the final gap on the doors today, not perfect but pretty darn good. Oh yeah, I need to install the front splitter and rocker extensions.

[Dalton1990]

I cleaned the shop up last night, put the Z up on the rack for the winter. Pondering a few body mods on the GTM. My 2 1/2 yo daughter climbed into the GTM and said it was NEAT!

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-P2axecLkLIw/TrF_HjDs6iI/AAAAAAAAAP4/amwsIc2L_b4/s800/2011-11-01_17-53-29_928.jpg

Is that cleaned shop? Lolxx. Just kidding, I like your garage because its looking well organized then my one. haha Can you please tell me what is the name of that car stand, Which is installed in your garage? I am interested in this because I think it can help me.

[kaloper]

Finally got a chance to post a video of one of the test/tune runs of the car at our first Autocross on 5/4. I originally planned to have the body installed, however, opted to run in go cart mode. It was much easier checking everything out and with making adjustments. The car ran well and I am in process of getting the body on for the next event.

Karl

http://youtu.be/PfRn6Gqq1C0

[Kalstar]

Wow, very nice.

How did you get it so quiet?

[VD2021]

Karl,

That is too cool. And it sounds great.

Have any more videos?

[VD2021]

Wow, very nice.

How did you get it so quiet?

J,
Maybe that was the M3 that was on the last half of the course. You can really hear the LS during the end of the run.

[kaloper]

J,
Maybe that was the M3 that was on the last half of the course. You can really hear the LS during the end of the run.

Hi Jim...I think that was the BMW you heard at the first half of my run. The GTM has the full Kooks exhaust and it sounded quiet since I wasn't horsing on it. It kind of reminds me of my Camaro with the Magnaflow system from a loudness perspective, but has its' own sound.

Hi Vidal...I was only able to get the video of one run (got 7 in on Saturday). I'll post some more videos with the body on and a little more out of control...

Take care...Karl

[docglock]

I built my instrument cluster last week. I used the Intellitronix Create-A-Dash kit instead of the kit supplied gauges. These gauges are digital with an analog sweep. This is a relatively new product, but it went together pretty well.

http://supercarbuild.blogspot.com/2013/05/intellitronix-create-dash.html
http://supercarbuild.blogspot.com/2013/05/intellitronix-terminal-block.html

This kit was also featured on Stacey davids gearz program.

[VD2021]

I built my instrument cluster last week. I used the Intellitronix Create-A-Dash kit instead of the kit supplied gauges. These gauges are digital with an analog sweep. This is a relatively new product, but it went together pretty well.

http://supercarbuild.blogspot.com/2013/05/intellitronix-create-dash.html
http://supercarbuild.blogspot.com/2013/05/intellitronix-terminal-block.html

This kit was also featured on Stacey davids gearz program.

Nice digital display.

Very similar to the digital IP some of the Gen1 Guys have.

What are you plans for concealing the view of the PCBs through the smoked plexi?

How is the clearance/view of the fuel and coolant temp gauges with the column section cut and the column in place?

[docglock]

Nice digital display.

Very similar to the digital IP some of the Gen1 Guys have.

What are you plans for concealing the view of the PCBs through the smoked plexi?

How is the clearance/view of the fuel and coolant temp gauges with the column section cut and the column in place?

I plan just to leave it as is. You can see the PC boards, but they are really obscured by the smoked Plexiglas. I've left the panel hooked up to a 12v source for 12 hours, seated on a bench in my shop. If am 5 feet away, I don't see the PC boards. Now this could just be the way my eyes work. I figure when I'm in the car, I am at most 30 inches from the Plexiglas. What I notice are the LED readouts.

When I get back to the car, I need to do some preliminary fitting of the gauge panel. If it is too tight, I'll just raise the dash a little bit. I can't be more than a half inch either way.

This was a side project I took with me on my trip south. The really big deal this year is the Porsche 991 Transaxle arriving from Gbox in July!

Thanks!

[VD2021]

The really big deal this year is the Porsche 991 Transaxle arriving from Gbox in July!

Thanks!

I'm eager to see your install and its performance in the GTM. Definitely keep us posted.

[Kalstar]

Alignment done.....much better!

Look how much lower the GTM is then the Vette, makes the Vette look like an SUV.

The pic in the drivers seat has the camara at door edge level. Man-o-man is this car low.

[The Stig]

Alignment done.....much better!



Did you do the alignment yourself, Or did you take it somewhere to have it done? Also, did you use the alignment "blocks/shims" that Mike sells? I still have that on my list of things to get done...

[Kalstar]

I brought it somewhere. Did not use the shins but I think I should, it is much better then it was, but still not ideal.

[Kalstar]

Dropped the GTM off yesterday at the F5R suggested Dyno shop. After the baseline run then a flash tune, the little 5.3 is putting down 314 at the wheels. The tune is still pig rich at 11-1 and timing was at 8. Tuner is working on her again today. He says it is possible he could get as much as 350whp, (possible). As it stands, at 314 (assuming 15% driveline loss) the engine is putting out 361hp. The phone was breaking up when he called list night but I think he said 391 tq at the wheels (edit it was 291). Not bad for a $750.00 23,000 mile junkyard truck engine. I have read that stock LS1 put down about 290whp so even at 314 I'm a happy camper.

Edit..... Final numbers are in.... 358/339 so about 415 at the crank, right where I was hoping (little better actually). Since the 5.3 is 326 CI and the LS6 is 347 and since the L33 comes stock with LS6 heads and the fact I installed a LS6 intake, I figured it was a baby LS6. After I installed the used comp cam xr269 I was hoping with the extra duration and lift it would make up for the 21ci deficit.

Research from LS1tech (baseline stock readings)

2004 LS6 CTS-V....330whp
2001 LS6 Vette......341whp
2003 LS6 Vette......354whp

So at 358 I am basically equal with the later Corvette LS6. Very happy with the outcome. This gives my GTM the p/w of 5.66-1 which should give it performance squarely in supercar territory.

[Kalstar]

My dyno video as posted on YouTube. SMG call to say they posted the vid today. Thx for the tune and the vid, highly recommend them.

http://m.youtube.com/index?&desktop_uri=%2F#/watch?v=h6zFB2hdiIU

[VD2021]

http://youtu.be/h6zFB2hdiIU

[fastthings]

Man, you car came out so nice. Good show.

[Kalstar]

Man, you car came out so nice. Good show.

Thanx Vidal for the right link.

fastthings, That means a lot coming from you.

Seems in more cases then not, once a F5R car is done the builder/owner disappears. I will not be one of those. For what ever reason very few stick around after. I really like the crowd around here so I am not going anywhere.

[narkosys]

Seems in more cases then not, once a F5R car is done the builder/owner disappears. I will not be one of those. For what ever reason very few stick around after. I really like the crowd around here so I am not going anywhere.

I think it may be because hopefully they are having too much fun driving! But I agree, it would be great to have access to all their insight and experience during the builds.

Now I am at the point where I can start making spreadsheets for both the GTM and the Coupe as I am not sure yet which way I am going to go. I am going to try hard not to faint from sticker shock! :p

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[Edgeman]

I have the exhaust holes cut out also will do the air intakes in front of the wheels and then the body will be going back on the car. Also have a new toy, traded my Dad Lathes they say bigger is better.
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[Kalstar]

Went back to the scale today. I filled the tanks as much as I could (took 12 gallons) I would say it holds 16 gallions or about 98 lbs+/- of fuel. Topped off all of the fluids and loaded all the parts I have yet to install on the passanger floor (except the belly pan) things like the wiper and arm, the catch can, interior door pull rods and floor matts. The fully loaded weight came in at 2440. I could find about 55lbs in weight I could have saved if I went with no sound proofer, lightweight battery, no A/C, no radio or speakers, no Vraptor parts and no body mods, but it would not be as nice. The last time I put the GTM on the scale I had almost no gas (infact ran out of gas on the dyno) and the interior was not fully done nor was the extra parts placed in the car. That weight came in at 2247.

Now that I know the completed weight and the Dyno HP the final ratio is 5.92-1 (supercar ratio for sure). Just proves again that when F5R quoted the 2350lbs for their black GTM it was entirely possible (as long as it did not have full gas tanks). They said 2350 and under 40K I can prove both can be done, now for the 300hrs to build (sorry Charlie).

[VD2021]

Progress has been slow, but I managed to complete the install of my markers.

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[The Stig]

That's looking nice Vidal. Great work!

[VD2021]

That's looking nice Vidal. Great work!

Thanks Mike. They were a bit more work than I anticipated, because they are not flat, but I'm pleased with the results.

[Kalstar]

Thanks Mike. They were a bit more work than I anticipated, because they are not flat, but I'm pleased with the results.

You Ot'ta be, looks fantastic.

[VD2021]

You Ot'ta be, looks fantastic.

Thanks, J. When do we get the see the interior/uphostry pics?

[Kalstar]

Thanks, J. When do we get the see the interior/uphostry pics?

That is a good question, hard to get the right angle to show the interior without detail bits and pieces missing. It is the detail that really makes it pop.

I am really looking forward to viewing your finished product, lots of "different" was put into your car and your time spent will be very well recieved by everyone that can appreciate what you have created.

[Fraser D]

Took my new temp tags for a spin around town.
Far from complete but at least now I can have a little pleasure with the pain :-)

[VD2021]

Took my new temp tags for a spin around town.
Far from complete but at least now I can have a little pleasure with the pain :-)

Congrats Dave.

[kabacj]

Took my new temp tags for a spin around town.
Far from complete but at least now I can have a little pleasure with the pain :-)

Awesome Dave! How did the first drive go? Did you answer what is that 10 times?

Great job.

John

[LCD Gauges]

Lovin' all the body mods Dave! I think we'll be putting you in the Top 5 unique builds. :cool:

[Fraser D]

Thanks for the props guys!
I still need to add the side window scoops, exhaust cut outs and finish off the rear hatch before I am done with the body mods.
It was not quite 10 times as it was just a quick drive but it really draws attention. It was actually hard to change lanes due to being constantly surrounded by folks wanting to look at the car with their cell phones out of their windows.

[VD2021]

1/8" ABS added to the top of the RH side door panel. One down one to go.

[Fraser D]

No video this weekend unfortunately.
Realized that the adhesive I used on the radiator intake mesh has a 24hr cure so that killed my play time this afternoon.
I did spend Saturday getting an alignment and the windshield installed.
Almost 50 miles in the heat of the day in Houston traffic, (no toll tag so no freeway) with no radiator fans and no wheel well vent slots cut, (they were cut out today)...... max temp was 200 deg F.
I am playing with the exhaust tip opening and it still needs a little tweaking.
Engine gets a tune tomorrow afternoon as it is running very fat right now.
My first track day is this Wednesday @ MSR so I am both big time excited as well as nervous as hell. I have a sprint car and drag racing background so this turning both left and right on asphalt is kinda new to me.
This thing is crazy quick and I am yet to get serious with the right pedal.
I can't wait to get comfortable with the car and get it dialed in....

[Edgeman]

I put the rear wing on that I purchased from Thomas142 and installed the hood latches.
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[Edgeman]

Lights installed/fog light with Shane's brackets , along with the roll bar cover and wiper motor and blade.
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[fact5racer]

I spent hours on my knees today Praying that my car gets painted this week so I have the upcoming three day weekend to attack it's final assembly! Bodyshop promised me to have it done by the 10th. The 10th of August that is. It's in primer now and being sealed tomorrow (he says), Sherwin Williams is mixing and delivering my paint tomorrow along with 2 gallons of clear. Then the five colors and three coats of clear starts on Tuesday. Dry , wet sand, then 3 more coats of clear, and I pray it will be done by Friday. Looks like I may have to start leaving work at noon for a few days after it arrives home to get a jump on it.

If any New Englanders get bored and want to jump in and lend a hand I would be glad to see you.

[Fraser D]

After putting about 600 miles on the car it’s time to clean up the drive line, install all close out panels and take care of heat insulation. I was presently surprised at how many of the modifications worked well and even more surprised and how few didn’t.
The turbo combination which brings the power on later in the RPM range works great for where I am right now.
The split front radiator modification is working better than expected regarding heat dissipation with the additional air in the wheel well not presenting any issues yet up to 160mph.
The power train as run was the same engine out of the 2k C5 donor with 60k miles with just an intake and injector upgrade along with a tune.
The transaxle is a G50-20 out of a salvage that was simply inverted and given an oil change with the same clutch reused.
That stock combination is easily running a smidge over 500 WRHP @ 5psi boost with a vacuum leak and a crappy throttle position sensor.
Engine Upgrades while the driveline is removed;
• Turbo cam
• High volume oil pump
• Valve springs
• Push rods
• Con rod bolts
Transaxle Upgrades;
• Billet side plate
I am keeping the stock clutch for now as it is showing no adverse ware at all.
With the upgrades my goal is to tune up to 650RWHP while remaining at 5psi boost but the boost may have to come up just a touch.
I was a little surprised at how much dirt and crap is covering the engine bay in such a short period of time. The car does not have any close out panels installed so I did expect some.
When the drive line goes back in the car will be registered with formal plates.

[VD2021]

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[mikespms]

Hey Vidal,
Started making the rollbar covers
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[VD2021]

Mike,

Looks like there is a lot or build work happening in your shop.:cool:

[mikespms]

Been working on that side of the car fitting the glove box and dash pad making it so that it can be removed with out having to take the whole interior apart and a bracket to secure the corner of the dash pad and the close out panel between the dash and door post. Have all the tools and pieces laid out on the floor,an organized mess.

[Fraser D]

Hey Vidal,
Started making the rollbar covers
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Mike,
What material are you using to make the roll bar cover profile?
Florist foam?

[LCD Gauges]

No pics from me, but I purchased some flexible sanding blocks, and started hitting the back end. Also worked on the driver door internals (cleaning, and priming the brace).

Mike, you'll have to make me a set of roll-bar covers too. My birthday is coming up. Hint, hint.

[Fraser D]

All that I have managed to do the last two + weeks is wait on parts.
Transaxle billet side plate turned up today, (thanks Erik).
I am not sure if I should put it in a frame and hang it on the wall as art or bolt it onto my transaxle so that I can pull a couple more ponies reliably through it.
More Power!!!!

[mikespms]

Hi Dave,

It is a 1/2" closed cell polyurethane marine foam, is going to be covered with 1/4" foam backing and covered with head liner material. It is soft to protect my head from hitting the roll bar when I get in and out of the car.

[VD2021]

All that I have managed to do the last two + weeks is wait on parts.
Transaxle billet side plate turned up today, (thanks Erik).
I am not sure if I should put it in a frame and hang it on the wall as art or bolt it onto my transaxle so that I can pull a couple more ponies reliably through it.
More Power!!!!

Wow, Dave. That is a beautiful piece.

[Fraser D]

Wow, Dave. That is a beautiful piece.

I am thinking about clear anodizing it rather than black.

[Fraser D]

Hi Dave,

It is a 1/2" closed cell polyurethane marine foam, is going to be covered with 1/4" foam backing and covered with head liner material. It is soft to protect my head from hitting the roll bar when I get in and out of the car.

Thanks Mike, I like the way that your headed.

[Edgeman]

I have been working on the diffuser and really did not like the small spacers that Factory Five supplied. I started to machine some out of aluminum but the stock that I was using was 5/8" I think that it was just to big. I started to machine them down then realised that I had some 1/2" stainless tubing (.049 wall thickness). I cut them to 3 3/4' and installed them. I used the Factory Five ones as an insert, worked perfect.

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[VD2021]

Working on the exhaust system.

-Welded on an o2 bung for a wide band.
-2000 degree flat after some light sanding and cleaning.
-DEI header wrap.
-DEI silicone spray.

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[dhanisch]

Put in Shane's diffuser louvers.

I did not take the precautions for working with and cutting carbon fiber. I'm paying for it...

http://www.danhanisch.com/GTM/DIffuser.jpg

[Hdale85]

I worked on and drove the car for about a year and put on about a 1000 miles before pulling it apart for paint. So I'm pretty confident we'll be happy with the long term durability of this window. And if it does get beat up I'm only into it about $200. I'll replace it with a fresh one. I have a great pattern. I knew a long time ago that the back glass that came with the kit was never going to make me happy. It's the one area I really have a problem with. Body fitment is just one of those things that can make me feel really good if it's right and ruin my day if it's off. Once I figured I was never going to have a fit with the stock glass I decided to go with a polycarbonate window. I went down to the local hardware store, bought a 4X4 piece of 1/8" Lexan, laid it over the stock window as a pattern. Cut it out with a jigsaw, filed and sanded until I got the shape right and temporarily glued it in place for a year to see what engine temp and normal wear and tear would do. I also did some work to the rear hatch to make it match the shape of the body - 3/16" (final glass thickness). I'm sorry I don't have some better pictures, but look at the upper edge of the hatch and see how I had to add almost 1/2" to the center of the area that is closest to the body. If you can build up the hatch to match the body shape when you install the poly window it will take that perfect body shape. I think its important that you block and finish the new FG work because if it's wavy you're poly window will take that shape and you'll have waves in your glass.
After I painted the car I ordered a piece of polycarbonate 3/16" Hard faced on both sides from Mc Master Carr. I used the old window as a template and cut, filed and polished the edges of the new window. Then I cut the black out mask and found out how hard the hard facing really is. I wanted to sand the area I was going to spray black but it was too hard to sand. I wound up using a sanding sponge and even that did not do a great job. A light glass bead blasting would probably be best. I just sanded it as best I could and sprayed it black on the inside. Then on the first 105 degree day I put the window in the sun to soften it while I applied a liberal bead of window adhesive to the hatch. After the window was good and hot I put it in place and Gorilla taped the side edges down and let it sit over night. Next day pulled of the mask and Gorilla tape and cleaned the window with Liquid glass and a Microfiber wiping towel. The hard faced Polycarbonate is what they make safety glasses out of so it's extremely scratch resistant and I can vouch for that. I don't think I would try cleaning it with newspaper, but I have no problem rubbing it with a clean Microfiber towel. The 3/16 thickness and the natural curve make the window very strong and yes if you push hard enough in the middle you can deflect it. But it is crystal clear without any distortion. It's not like the headlight covers.

One other thing I did was reinforce the window frame because I suspect the stock glass is uses as a stiffener. I wont be able to use the stock lifting shocks because between the wing and rear louvers the hatch is pretty heavy.

Mike,
this is something you could do to your car without having to do any repaint work. Then after a couple years and a few thousand miles of road rash you could always pull this window out and have your body reshaped to the stock glass and then repaint. The problem is I didn't think I could make the stock glass fit the body and look right for for our car period. And I'm not afraid of a little body work. :)

And finally Polycarbonate is what they make bullet proof glass from so you are safe from bullets from the rear! :D

I know this is an older post but I just have to say that hatch fitment you took pics of is terrible! Had no idea it was so bad on this kit.

[sk7500]

Took the GTM out for a ride today. Went to pick up my dad who was a major help in getting this project done, but the opportunity has never happened where I could take him for a ride. He's 77 and I was pretty sure he could get in but I figured the getting out part would be the challenge. But he was willing to try it. So off we go. I took him on a couple 0 - 100 blasts and then just some cruising around. With a big ole grin on his face he said "you need to drive this car more. You seem to need some practice with throttle control". I learned a long time ago, Dads always right.;)

[The Stig]

Steve,

This is without a doubt one of the coolest posts that I've seen on the forum in quite some time. Thanks for sharing.

Mike

[Fraser D]

The engine is almost ready to go back in.
From a stock LS1 long block a few bits have been upgraded to help things live a little longer.
New high volume oil pump, rod bolts, push rods, valve springs and a turbo cam.
The goal is to bump up the tune from 507rwhp to around 600-650rwhp.
My new clutch that I was going to order turned into a new washing machine during the week so it will be a couple more weeks before I am driving again. Gotta keep the boss happy :-)

[WIS89]

Now THIS is a great day! Glad you and your Dad could get out there and have a good time with your car.

Thanks for putting a smile on my face!

Regards,

Steve



Took the GTM out for a ride today. Went to pick up my dad who was a major help in getting this project done, but the opportunity has never happened where I could take him for a ride. He's 77 and I was pretty sure he could get in but I figured the getting out part would be the challenge. But he was willing to try it. So off we go. I took him on a couple 0 - 100 blasts and then just some cruising around. With a big ole grin on his face he said "you need to drive this car more. You seem to need some practice with throttle control". I learned a long time ago, Dads always right.;)

[RumRunner]

Today I finally got to give Ron (Presto51) a ride in my GTM (you know, the one he spent the last 3 years helping me build, the one he painted, the one he didn't allow me to cut any corners on). We did a short 35 mile drive, some highway, some backroad. It was my first time on the highway, and at least up to 100mph, the car is rock solid. Steering feels precise and calm - nothing twitchy, nothing scary. No shaking, no rattling, no air coming in around the windows. All good. I'm still in the engine break in period, so with Ron I did my five 2000-4000 rpm half-throttle accelerations, and then a few WOT up to 4000 rpm. Brutal acceleration. Even had my Race Logic traction control kick in twice - once on a straight acceleration in 2nd gear, and once coming out of a turn as I hit the go pedal.

On the highway, in 20 degree weather, I had two kids roll their window down to stick out their "thumbs up" for me. Poor kids probably got frostbite! Also had four other cars match me for a bit while they took photos.

Hoping to finish my Maryland safety inspection tomorrow, and I'll be fully official (driving on a temporary registration now).

Hope everyone has a good Thanksgiving!

-Michael

[Edgeman]

Michael,

Great to here that the car has come together as you wanted it. Congrats on what will be hours and hours of fun driving, post some more pictures or videos. Thanks for your help over the last few years, also. I have a firm date on getting mine painted ( Jan 14, 2014) I have set June 30 as my completion date.

[Presto51]

Michael thanks for the huge props, but don't forget to give yourself a gargantuan load of praise too.

It was your vision that we executed, and you took a big chance with a total stranger, and invited him along, on a fantastic journey, which I will never forget.

My take on yesterday’s ride……..WOW!!!!

Michael’s car runs, handles, stops, turns, fantastic. After getting used to being just inches off the ground, seeing ordinary, run of the mill, regular cars looking like SUV’s, this baby wants to run, and she runs great.

Remember this is only its first run down the highway, and I think its fourth time out of the garage to hit the streets, I like to call this type of driving, shakedown runs.

With that being said, Michael’s GTM 327, tracks straight as an arrow, with not a hint of drifting from lane to lane, no shakes, shimming, wobbling, twitching feeling, air leaks around the windows, oil, water leaks, and best of all nothing getting loose and falling off (Yes I know that Michael has said that already, but I think it can't be said enough, Lol). I think without any doubts that number 327 is ready to rock and roll. And by the looks, thumbs up, and pictures that passing cars were doing she’s a rock star of the highway.

So too all you builders that are out there slaving away in your garage, might be getting build fatigue, saving up money for the future, or sitting on the fence, Michael and GTM 327 is proof positive that, yes you can do it, and the forum members are really here for you, to help out, to make your dream possible.

Thanks Michael

Ron

P.S. I think I’m missing 327 already :(

[LCD Gauges]

Being in the cold, white North of Canada I thought it would be a good idea to check the freeze point of the coolant. I'm good down to about -25'C
according to that ever-accurate antifreeze gauge. Just for good measure I added more coolant, and ran the pump for about a minute.

Don't forget to winterize your car if you haven't already!

[crash]

Don't forget to winterize your car if you haven't already!

Did that last week.

Yep, made sure the windshield wiper worked! :)

[Fraser D]

I have finished upgrading and painting my transaxle then managed to install it without scratching the hell out of it :-)
Headers and turbo's being tweaked and reassembled ready for installation for the last time.
Should have it all back together and running in a couple of weeks.
Final assembly is almost as stressful as the original mock-up but without the question of if the combination will actually work. I am more of a functional kinda guy so this process of keeping things nice and scratch free is new territory for me.
After a few shakedown runs and another track day it will be time to clean up the body a little more than start chipping away at the interior.

[Taz Rules]

She's pretty!
Glad to see you're getting some time in with the car. What material is that intake made of?

[Fraser D]

Thanks Taz
Intake is ally that has been powder coated in black wrinkle finish, (actually did not turn out very well due to the mass of the unit)


She's pretty!
Glad to see you're getting some time in with the car. What material is that intake made of?

[Edgeman]

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These are the last cut outs before it goes to paint. I have to put in side marker lights, I have picked these from Aston Martin. The size are 2 cm x 18 cm. The wide one is from the C5 Corvette. I cut a template out of aluminum to trace on the body.

[Edgeman]

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Today I cut out the side marker holes.

[RumRunner]

Finally got my personalized tags. Woo Hoo!

-Michael

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[Presto51]

Very Cool :cool:

[Fraser D]

Started the car back up yesterday.
Everything works great. Oil pressure up where I am comfortable seeing it.
Still playing with the exhaust tips to get both the length and position correct. Lots of test fitting.
The new cam makes a big difference with the engine throttle response a lot crisper that the original set up.
Time to button this thing back up and go and have some fun.

http://youtu.be/oBBYb07EWcU

[Fraser D]

After beefing up the engine and transaxle along with feeling like I put the local anodizer and powder coater's kids through college the car is back on the road this weekend.
While the mechanicals are tight the body work is pure function for now. Paint job and interior budget is being finalized but Texas registration then lots of track days and road miles over the next year is the current focus. I want to be able to have fun with the car for awhile without the stress of cosmetic damage.
I still need to install the plexiglass hatch window but you can see how I have addressed the engine bay heating concerns made worse by a pair of turbos.
Off to the tuners on Thursday and I am expecting a civil 600-650rwhp @ under 10psi.
I will be building on the handling and performance of the car while chipping away at things like the AC system and other mods.

[kabacj]

After beefing up the engine and transaxle along with feeling like I put the local anodizer and powder coater's kids through college the car is back on the road this weekend.
While the mechanicals are tight the body work is pure function for now. Paint job and interior budget is being finalized but Texas registration then lots of track days and road miles over the next year is the current focus. I want to be able to have fun with the car for awhile without the stress of cosmetic damage.
I still need to install the plexiglass hatch window but you can see how I have addressed the engine bay heating concerns made worse by a pair of turbos.
Off to the tuners on Thursday and I am expecting a civil 600-650rwhp @ under 10psi.
I will be building on the handling and performance of the car while chipping away at things like the AC system and other mods.

Looks awesome Dave! Don't forget. We need lots of track video. :)


John

[Fraser D]

Looks awesome Dave! Don't forget. We need lots of track video. :)


John

You bet.
I promise to get some laps on a dry track and get out of 3rd gear more often :-)

[VD2021]

After beefing up the engine and transaxle along with feeling like I put the local anodizer and powder coater's kids through college the car is back on the road this weekend.
While the mechanicals are tight the body work is pure function for now. Paint job and interior budget is being finalized but Texas registration then lots of track days and road miles over the next year is the current focus. I want to be able to have fun with the car for awhile without the stress of cosmetic damage.
I still need to install the plexiglass hatch window but you can see how I have addressed the engine bay heating concerns made worse by a pair of turbos.
Off to the tuners on Thursday and I am expecting a civil 600-650rwhp @ under 10psi.
I will be building on the handling and performance of the car while chipping away at things like the AC system and other mods.

Dave,

Very nice.

[mikespms]

Hey Dave,

Looking good!

[carbon fiber]

very cool dave. looking forward to the vids as well.

[Presto51]

Very Nice Dave

Ron

[Fugly_Old_Cowboy]

wooooooohoooooooo....
I was working in Conroe today & Dave (FraserD) offered to let me come over & check out his twin turbo GTM.. so after I finished up with my project I drove on over.... I really like what he's done with the split radiator & nose mods... he just put the motor back together with turbo friendly parts & has not been to the tuner yet so it would not idle ... well after a bit of me snooping around under the hood & hatch, crawling around with my nose stuck under the body & a few questions he offered to take me for a spin.... GOTTA LOVE tons of HP with almost NO weight to push... his rev limiter was set at like 6000... first gear is mostly non-existant... second gear was gone in something short of a heart-beat... third ate 110 in a few seconds... BUT.... it appears there was a bit of air trapped in the heads so it started puking water/steam... we hit the next drive (which happened to be a Wal-Mart)... while Dave went in to get some water, I stayed with the car... several folks stopped to ask "WOW, what kind of car is THAT???" we got it going & headed back towards his house... shortly it was puking & steaming again, we whipped into the entrance of a gated sub-division to top it off again... while we were waiting for it to cool enough to add the water, a few more "cool car" stops & a guy walking over asking to take some pics.... Dave kept telling me he was sorry about it... (I guess he didn't see the ear to ear grin I was wearing)... I just hope he didn't get too much flack from his lovely wife for taking me out on a joy ride & being gone so long...
Dave ... THANKS AGAIN... Like I warned you, once my mason jar build fund is completed... I WILL be pestering you for insights & ideas....

[Fraser D]

wooooooohoooooooo....
I was working in Conroe today & Dave (FraserD) offered to let me come over & check out his twin turbo GTM.. so after I finished up with my project I drove on over.... I really like what he's done with the split radiator & nose mods... he just put the motor back together with turbo friendly parts & has not been to the tuner yet so it would not idle ... well after a bit of me snooping around under the hood & hatch, crawling around with my nose stuck under the body & a few questions he offered to take me for a spin.... GOTTA LOVE tons of HP with almost NO weight to push... his rev limiter was set at like 6000... first gear is mostly non-existant... second gear was gone in something short of a heart-beat... third ate 110 in a few seconds... BUT.... it appears there was a bit of air trapped in the heads so it started puking water/steam... we hit the next drive (which happened to be a Wal-Mart)... while Dave went in to get some water, I stayed with the car... several folks stopped to ask "WOW, what kind of car is THAT???" we got it going & headed back towards his house... shortly it was puking & steaming again, we whipped into the entrance of a gated sub-division to top it off again... while we were waiting for it to cool enough to add the water, a few more "cool car" stops & a guy walking over asking to take some pics.... Dave kept telling me he was sorry about it... (I guess he didn't see the ear to ear grin I was wearing)... I just hope he didn't get too much flack from his lovely wife for taking me out on a joy ride & being gone so long...
Dave ... THANKS AGAIN... Like I warned you, once my mason jar build fund is completed... I WILL be pestering you for insights & ideas....

JT,
It was a pleasure meeting you and I am glad that I was able to share what I have done so far with my car.
The next time that you are in town let me know and I should have the rebuild bugs taken care of.

[Fraser D]

Thanks Guys, the first track day that my schedule allows is the first week in June back at MSR.
I will be trying to squeeze something in before then if the opportunity presents itself.

[crash]

Just wondering, do you have a header tank installed?

[Fraser D]

Just wondering, do you have a header tank installed?

Mike,
Yes I do just did not get the system hot enough to get a good circulation and purge during my run up the street on Staurday.
The system worked great before I stripped the drive train out for this rebuild.

[crash]

Yes it usually does take a couple of heat cycles to get all the air out. You should be able to do it pretty easily in the shop with just enough warming to open the thermostat. Remember to also open the heater core circuit or air can become trapped in their as well...unless the heater circuit is not in yet, of course. :)

[Kalstar]

Dropped my car off at World of Wheels in Boston tonight. The show officially starts tomorrow, but I got a sneak peek. Lots of very cool cars. The Sponsor of the show (Town Fair Tire) has my car in their booth, not registered as a show car so no possibilities of awards but truthfully the competition is very high this year. I have gone to this show for the past 10 years and as a kid some 30 years ago, this show is better then any of their shows since I can remember. I have been fortunate enough to go to SEMA the past several years and I recognized 5 SEMA cars from last years SEMA show that are here in Boston for the World of Wheels. Here are a few pic I took with the iphone before I left for the night.

[kabacj]

Dropped my car off at World of Wheels in Boston tonight. The show officially starts tomorrow, but I got a sneak peek. Lots of very cool cars. The Sponsor of the show (Town Fair Tire) has my car in their booth, not registered as a show car so no possibilities of awards but truthfully the competition is very high this year. I have gone to this show for the past 10 years and as a kid some 30 years ago, this show is better then any of their shows since I can remember. I have been fortunate enough to go to SEMA the past several years and I recognized 5 SEMA cars from last years SEMA show that are here in Boston for the World of Wheels. Here are a few pic I took with the iphone before I left for the night.

The car looks awesome under the lights Jim. I am looking forward to seeing the car in person at the open house.

John

[Presto51]

Congrats,

Sweet looking ride youi have there Jim

Ron


Dropped my car off at World of Wheels in Boston tonight. The show officially starts tomorrow, but I got a sneak peek. Lots of very cool cars. The Sponsor of the show (Town Fair Tire) has my car in their booth, not registered as a show car so no possibilities of awards but truthfully the competition is very high this year. I have gone to this show for the past 10 years and as a kid some 30 years ago, this show is better then any of their shows since I can remember. I have been fortunate enough to go to SEMA the past several years and I recognized 5 SEMA cars from last years SEMA show that are here in Boston for the World of Wheels. Here are a few pic I took with the iphone before I left for the night.

[Kempo]

Very nice Jim!!!! Can't wait to see it in person.

[Kalstar]

Thx John, Ron and Hugo. Hopefully all 4 of us will be at the open house this year.

[flotowngtm]

Kalstar I think you have the best interior out there! That dash is perfect! Not overly done and not to little!!!

[sk7500]

Your car will be a hit no matter where it is. But the World of Wheels draws the kind of people who will admire it the most.

[Kalstar]

Thx guys. The 818 is next (picked up the kit last October) this time around there will be no budget.

Steve, how's your new GTM coming?

I too love how the interior came out, Taz helped quite a lot with putting ideas into motion. I have seen some damn nice interiors go into GTMs and I feel mine definitely holds it's own.

[sk7500]

Oh I'm just waiting on a motor.:p

But to tell the truth I have not had much time since Thanksgiving to work on it. I'm still working on the passenger window frame molds. But spring fever is starting to hit pretty hard. So I'm thinking a couple days of vacation time might get me back into the swing of things. I was just thinking last night "I should put the headlights together or something".




Thx guys. The 818 is next (picked up the kit last October) this time around there will be no budget.

Steve, how's your new GTM coming?

I too love how the interior came out, Taz helped quite a lot with putting ideas into motion. I have seen some damn nice interiors go into GTMs and I feel mine definitely holds it's own.

[Edgeman]

This came in the mail the other day and temporary installed to get a picture. Thanks again to Shane at VRaptor speed works. I think I seen this in one of Kalstars photos and really like it.

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[Kalstar]

This came in the mail the other day and temporary installed to get a picture. Thanks again to Shane at VRaptor speed works. I think I seen this in one of Kalstars photos and really like it.

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And I first saw it on Joe Mush's car and loved it.

[KeithBoden]

I'm working on some tubular A arms for up front to adjust the coilover mounting point. I built a jig, turned some tubing to take poly bushings, made up some paper templates for the tubing notching, plasma cut the tubes, and started fitting them for the final weld up:

[LCD Gauges]

Much lighter, and stronger too I'm betting?

[Edgeman]

Completed the bezel for the ISIS. I used hydrographic carbon fiber to finish it off. This was my third attempt one small flaw at the bottom. I am going to clear it and see what it looks like.

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[Kempo]

Very nice Doug.

[fastthings]

Looks good, I'm going to do some hydro dipping also, cool stuff.

[Edgeman]

Thanks guys

[Edgeman]

When I started this project the Gen 2 was just being introduced. I really came to liking the yellow GTM, so when I sent it to the painters this was my vision for my car. It is 2014 corvette yellow and black.
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[Fraser D]

Had a couple of hours spare today so managed to get the rear diffuser mounted along with Shane's louver insert.
The diffuser itself does not fit well into the body so it took a little finessing to get everything right.
I used thread inserts into the body and chassis so that the diffuser can be removed easily enough in the future.
Could not have completed this without the use of a friends hoist. I think that I would have set fire to the car if I had to do this laying on my back with the car on stands.
Next is to center and trim the exhaust tips then make the exhaust trim pieces to complete the rear.
There are still a few things on the to-do list for the next track day June 4th at MSR.

[RumRunner]

I drove my GTM to Carlisle PA this weekend for the Kit Car and Import Nationals. FFR was gracious enough to let me park in their booth (kept my bald head out of the sun!). I had a great time discussing the GTM with at least 50 interested people, and hanging out with the FFR guys and gal (Courtnie, who debuted on the All-Women FFR Roadster Build on Powerblock TV that very morning!).

And Steve's 1/10 model was a huge hit! It's amazing how many women at the show came over just to see it ... "It's soooo cute". Might as well have been a puppy.

-Michael

[kabacj]

I drove my GTM to Carlisle PA this weekend for the Kit Car and Import Nationals. FFR was gracious enough to let me park in their booth (kept my bald head out of the sun!). I had a great time discussing the GTM with at least 50 interested people, and hanging out with the FFR guys and gal (Courtney, who debuted on the All-Women FFR Roadster Build on Powerblock TV that very morning!).

And Steve's 1/10 model was a huge hit! It's amazing how many women at the show came over just to see it ... "It's soooo cute". Might as well have been a puppy.

-Michael


Michael your GTM looks awesome! You should be very proud.

[Edgeman]

Michael, your car just came my background picture. Love it. picture #3.

[Taz Rules]

I'm back in the land of the living!

Moving to a new house, then some time in hospital and a month of forced rest, then another month of catching up in school....I've been away from the boards for wayyyyy too long!

Gene's videos kept me sane(ish)!

Managed to get this done on the 1/10 scale, though....
(still working out the details on the next coat...)

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OOPS.... I guess I should have blown the dust off of her! Dang...didn't think it would show up like that in the photos!
PS...haven't detailed or polished yet...that's the "straight out of the booth" finish. Looks a lot better when its not covered in dust from the bay next to me! D'oh!

[narkosys]

Glad to hear that you are still alive! (and ok!)

looking good so far. can't wait to see the final product.

we still need to do coffee. (sorry about that, I really suck at Using The Phone 101)

I am going to be heading back to school myself beginning in august. It is going to be a crazy few months as they are taking a 2 year diploma course and squeezing it into 5 months.

Keep up the good work!

P

[Fraser D]

Houston Performance Driving had an event a couple of weeks ago and my GTM managed to sneek into the highlights vid.

Makes me wonder what would happen if I gave it a paint job.


http://youtu.be/mGaSq6pCl8E

[fastthings]

It is so odd to see the GTM next to other cars, it is so small.

[kabacj]

It is so odd to see the GTM next to other cars, it is so small.

Other cars are very small in a GTM's mirrors!

The only car I have ever seen that got more attention was the full carbon fiber Paganini at SEMA. But if you own that you are just a guy with a boat load of money. I'd rather have the GTM

John

[Fraser D]

It is so odd to see the GTM next to other cars, it is so small.

Every time I see it beside another car I am surprised as you really don’t get an appreciation how low it is when you see the car by itself.

[RumRunner]

I took my 10 year old nephew for his first ride in the GTM this weekend. I thought it would be fun to record his reaction for his parents when I got on the gas a bit. He didn't want to stop!

Hope all (in the US) had a good holiday.

-Michael


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CF0GWlihfH8&feature=youtu.be

[fact5racer]

After spending most of the day tearing down my donor for my 818R I went for a ride along the oceanhttp://i1172.photobucket.com/albums/r567/fact5racer/IMG_13861.jpg (http://s1172.photobucket.com/user/fact5racer/media/IMG_13861.jpg.html)

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[The Stig]

Hmmmm.... 818R huh? Good for you.

Nice pics.

Mike

[fastthings]

I took my 10 year old nephew for his first ride in the GTM this weekend. I thought it would be fun to record his reaction for his parents when I got on the gas a bit. He didn't want to stop!

Hope all (in the US) had a good holiday.

-Michael


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CF0GWlihfH8&feature=youtu.be

That is so funny, I can't wait to get some of that.

[fastthings]

I took my 10 year old nephew for his first ride in the GTM this weekend. I thought it would be fun to record his reaction for his parents when I got on the gas a bit. He didn't want to stop!

Hope all (in the US) had a good holiday.

-Michael


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CF0GWlihfH8&feature=youtu.be

That is so funny, I can't wait to get some of that.

[crash]

Well, for the past couple years I have been talking about what I have been doing to my GTM body. Few pictures, but a lot of talk. I work on this thing a couple hours just about EVERY DAY and many weekends ALL WEEKEND LONG. I've made a lot of changes. So many, that people are telling me it is no longer a FFR GTM. Still, I think it very much resembles a GTM and I have given it the moniker of GTMR. It is starting to take shape...after 3 years, 2 gallons of resin, and over 20 gallons of body filler(you don't want to know how heavy this is) I feel like I am finally getting somewhere. Hopefully the nose will be ready for moulding in the next few weeks, and the rear is getting very close as well. Main body section still needs a lot of details worked out, but it is definitely coming along...

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[mendo]

Well, for the past couple years I have been talking about what I have been doing to my GTM body. Few pictures, but a lot of talk. I work on this thing a couple hours just about EVERY DAY and many weekends ALL WEEKEND LONG. I've made a lot of changes. So many, that people are telling me it is no longer a FFR GTM. Still, I think it very much resembles a GTM and I have given it the moniker of GTMR. It is starting to take shape...after 3 years, 2 gallons of resin, and over 20 gallons of body filler(you don't want to know how heavy this is) I feel like I am finally getting somewhere. Hopefully the nose will be ready for moulding in the next few weeks, and the rear is getting very close as well. Main body section still needs a lot of details worked out, but it is definitely coming along...


WOW! It is good to see it! I have heard about it, just not seen it!! keep pics coming!

[carbon fiber]

Looks good Crash. Are you going to roll in the wheelwell area before making the molds? What are you doing to the hatch glass area? I've done an F1 style scoop in place of the hatch, and I've changed the radiator exit to divert the air around the scoop. I'm doing a flip up rear like the Ford GT. I've done an "open" style rear similar to the LaFerrari and P4/5. With that and side scoops I've made it should cure the cooling issues. Do you have plans to change the very back part of the body for more air flow? I know how much work this is, I think we are the only ones cutting the GTM body up this much. Some days I feel buried in the bodywork but lately I'm starting to see the light at the end of the tunnel. I'm waiting to show the car finished to avoid people asking a bunch of questions like the ones I've just asked! Lookin' forward to seeing your GTMR finished.

[fastthings]

I bet that thing is dead nuts on, as far as symmetry, looks good. What are you going to do with it? Do you only have the shell? Will you do all that work, put it on the track to get smashed?

[crash]

I bet that thing is dead nuts on, as far as symmetry, looks good. What are you going to do with it? Do you only have the shell? Will you do all that work, put it on the track to get smashed?

Adjusting things and making them the same right to left was one of the big things I was trying to accomplish. It all starts with the centerline that is on the table you can see in some of the pics. This is a race car. Because I am making moulds and popping out bodies, yes it will be designed to get smashed. We have been extremely lucky with the FFR PDG GTM in that we haven't had a major incident(knock on wood), but in order to take the next step in speed, I felt it also necessary to take the next steps in safety and serviceability/repairability. One thing racing teaches you pretty quickly is that you can work for YEARS on a project and it can all be balled up and on the wrecker in a matter of seconds. If you are a serious racer destroying a car now and again is part of what happens. Sometimes it has absolutely nothing to do with you and your choices. It's just part of the game. Surviving that and continuing to race is only able to happen with good planning...and a good amount of time and money.

[crash]

Looks good Crash. Are you going to roll in the wheelwell area before making the molds? What are you doing to the hatch glass area? I've done an F1 style scoop in place of the hatch, and I've changed the radiator exit to divert the air around the scoop. I'm doing a flip up rear like the Ford GT. I've done an "open" style rear similar to the LaFerrari and P4/5. With that and side scoops I've made it should cure the cooling issues. Do you have plans to change the very back part of the body for more air flow? I know how much work this is, I think we are the only ones cutting the GTM body up this much. Some days I feel buried in the bodywork but lately I'm starting to see the light at the end of the tunnel. I'm waiting to show the car finished to avoid people asking a bunch of questions like the ones I've just asked! Lookin' forward to seeing your GTMR finished.

I am not going to roll the wheel well areas. This is because I have redesigned the body to accept the largest tires available 725 X 360 rears and 660 X 340 fronts. That's a 28.5" tall by 15" wide rear and a 26" tall and 13" wide front. This is what ALMS LMP1 cars run and I have a set left over from the team I worked on. You can see in picture #3 the FRONT tire in the background. It is A LOT of tire, to say the least. Now, the reason I am not rolling them is because I likely will run a smaller, more affordable tire setup most of the time. Leaving the tire area of the mould flat allows me to size the opening to the specific tire I want to use. The plan is to have a first run of 5 bodies made from the moulds to see how things work out and to have sufficient spares for racing purposes. If there is a stability issue I will glass in a rope on the underside once wheel well openings have been finalized.

The body will be in 6 different parts when this is completed. Rear valance, rear bonnet, center section, 2 doors, and nose. The hatch glass area is now part of the fender area in the rear. I am using Protex latches to connect all the bodywork and see no reason to need to use hood pins or Aero catches. It should be very clean and make for servicing very easily. Should the rear of the car find its way into a concrete wall I'm shooting for a rear body work/engine/transmission change in roughly 15 minutes. That is not easy to do and requires a good bit of thought and planning.

This body is the ultimate low drag model with the required sizing modifications. I may adjust the moulds for down force and cooling in the future, but I decided to keep things clean to begin with. There are ways to deal with cooling. Look at the Grand Am DP cars. Hardly any venting at all. It can be done and the underbody ducting as well as a cleaning out of the rear of the car will definitely help. Again, I can always add scoops and louvers and such, but wanted to make the moulds with a clean closed profile so all options are open "down the road".

I debated posting pictures because I too wanted nothing out there until I had the finished product to show, but it has been a LONG time coming and I felt a little update was in order. Besides, the forums have been slow lately and I thought this might liven them up a bit.

I've also been working on the frame. I bent and tacked the center section up out of 4130, then disassembled it before I end up closing up the body. This will allow me to keep working on building the car even when the body is off to a "fiberglass jeweler" to make the actual moulds. I am also prototyping the uprights and brakes right now, so things are actually moving along much faster than the pictures of the body show. :)

[scottvette1989]

So Carbon Fiber, when will we see your progress???

[carbon fiber]

Sounds good Crash, I'm sure It'll set a new level of performance for anything out there with a GTM body. Sounds like some unreal grip that things gonna have. Even with the body mods you've done it still looks very much like a GTM. Mine shares the basic body lines of the GTM, but the front and rear clip are completely different. So are the top of the hood, hatch and rockers. I've got seven separate pieces minus the doors. The rockers are independent from the body and the front and rear have a lower and upper section. It's sporting a new sunroof too, similar to the Koenigsegg. I've also deleted the window between the interior and the engine compartment. I have closeout panels and then separate interior pieces with insulation between them. I'm going for the most quiet interior award. Probably the polar opposite of what you're doing. But who cares about the decibel level with a helmet on right?

[carbon fiber]

So Carbon Fiber, when will we see your progress??? When it's done! I've been tempted many times as I finish certain parts of the car to show pics but I'm going to wait to show the finished product. I've changed so many things as I've built, it would have been confusing anyway. Like Crash and I have both said before, It's a ton of work when it's just one person doing this much modification, and I'm making the molds myself also. I know the forums "didn't see it - didn't happen" motto, but I'm going to get it to paint before I post anything. It'll be worth the wait I promise.

[crash]

Mine shares the basic body lines of the GTM, but the front and rear clip are completely different. So are the top of the hood, hatch and rockers. I've got seven separate pieces minus the doors. The rockers are independent from the body and the front and rear have a lower and upper section.

I debated splitting the nose into two pieces, but decided that for crash repair speed it makes sense to have one piece so that alignment issues are minimized. The center section of the car is built for safety. The front and rear can be changed in entirety rather quickly. Still kind of torn with all the lights we use about possibly splitting the nose, but really think that when in doubt, keep it simple.

[Taz Rules]

Hey, Crash
are you worried about the center section of the frame being made of 4130?
I was under the impression that moly could be a bit brittle (especially if not properly heat treated/stress relieved after welding), and might break before bending in an unfortunate off-track excursion. I'm pretty sure that the NASCAR rules, for example, require 1.75" x .090 DOM mild steel tubing for all roll cage and safety components.

I'm not second guessing your choice here, merely looking for insights.

[Fraser D]

Spent almost two hours at the tax office this morning and walked out the door with these.
Although the car is not finished I can at least enjoy driving it and tinker with it at my leisure without needing paper temp plates.
Custom plates will get ordered in the next couple of weeks.
The rules in Texas changed at the end of Feb this year which made the entire process an adventure for DMV, Tax Office and myself. I will give an update to one of the threads on registration with a step by step, but basically my GTM by definition of the new law is a 2014 Assembled Vehicle in Texas.

[LCD Gauges]

I remember the day my registration finally got processed; you must feel like you won the lottery! Congrats on gettin' legal!

[Fraser D]

I remember the day my registration finally got processed; you must feel like you won the lottery! Congrats on gettin' legal!

That is a pretty accurate description but I won't be back in town until next weekend to break in the new plates.

[crash]

Hey, Crash
are you worried about the center section of the frame being made of 4130?
I was under the impression that moly could be a bit brittle (especially if not properly heat treated/stress relieved after welding), and might break before bending in an unfortunate off-track excursion. I'm pretty sure that the NASCAR rules, for example, require 1.75" x .090 DOM mild steel tubing for all roll cage and safety components.

I'm not second guessing your choice here, merely looking for insights.

This car will be composed of areas that are designed to absorb impacts with "crash boxes" made of carbon and foam in the sides, and also use DOM tubing in the outer "crush" areas. The inner safety area will be rigid and comprised of 4130 and titanium sheets to protect from intrusion during an incident. These items are extremely expensive, but well worth it in the moment that one's life is turned over to these structures to protect it. :)

[Kalstar]

Day of loose ends.....

Finally found the vacuum leak (now fixed). I moved my horn to the cruise control button, no more "just the right push" for the horn to work and I finally have seat belts after 2 years of driving illegally. Feels great to finish off the last couple punch list stuff.

[VD2021]

I met Aaron yesterday. He's in town and found some time to stop by. His call sign is "AGH" here on the forum. He's building #403 using a C6 Donor http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showthread.php?9285-C5-and-C6-Donor-Build&highlight=build. Great Guy and it was awesome talking with him.

[crash]

I'm really concentrating on the uprights right now, and am making a jig so as they will all be the same, but I managed to do some more details to the bodywork also...

[RumRunner]

This weekend and last weekend I prepared to pull my engine to replace the thrust bearing (see my Tic-Tic-Tic thread...).

To make certain I could reassemble everything once I disassembled it, I kept a little log of what I did to pull the engine. In case anyone is thinking of doing this for fun, let this list make you think otherwise!

At least I'm nearly ready to remove the engine ... just need to figure out what to do with the AC system to be able to remove it.

Here's my list, and a picture of the naked GTM....

Transaxle Removal:
1. Disconnect battery ground
Next steps allow rear diffuser to be removed
2. Remove rear license plate and grill to access rear view camera connections
3. Disconnect rear view camera
4. Remove ring from hatch release cable under diffuser
5. Disconnect rear fans
6. Remove diffuser
Next steps remove exhaust
7. Remove exhaust supports (the big “P” shaped ones) from trans mount and exhaust
8. Loosen exhaust clamp rings at x-pipe
9. Remove bolts attaching cat-pipes to headers
10. Remove cat pipes, then remove x-pipe. Only exhaust headers should remain
Next steps remove all attachments from transaxle and sub-frame
11. Remove transmission overflow tube from transaxle
12. Disconnect reverse light switch connectors in transaxle
13. Disconnect speed sensor. Remove speed sensor from transaxle
14. Remove cable shift mount

a. Detach angle adjust with ball driver
b. Detach in/out with spring collar
c. Remove mount bolts and nuts (2 trans bolts and 1 trans nut)
d. Remove two small bolts/nuts from small cable mount arm
e. Disassemble small mount arm from main cable mount
15. Remove clutch slave cylinder
16. Remove clutch fork pivot shaft

a. Remove retaining bolt/plate
b. Remove rubber grommet
c. Thread M6x1mm tool into pivot shaft and remove while wiggling clutch fork
d. Leave clutch fork in bell housing – will remove fork when transaxle is removed
17. Disconnect battery cable from starter
18. Disconnect starter relay cable from starter
19. Remove starter
20. Remove cable clamps on sides of bell housing
21. Remove catch can
22. Unbolt inner cv joints, move out of the way, and install temp. nuts on the cv bolts to keep them assembled
23. Remove two ¼”x20 bolts holding hatch lock support to trans mount (black sheet steel part)
24. Remove hatch lock assembly and completely remove sheet steel hatch lock support
25. Remove fuel breather filter mounting clips from trans sub-frame
Next steps are preparation for supporting engine and removing transaxle
26. Remove bushing mount for rear sway bar and position sway bar below frame rail
27. Remove rear skid rails
28. Support engine using a 1”x1” square steel tube C-clamped to the chassis just rearward of the oil filter. Use a few washers on each side to space the tube slightly down from the chassis tubes so the 1” square tubing is snug up to the oil pan when clamped. When clamped in this manner, the engine position (height) will remain unchanged when the transaxle is removed.
29. Support transaxle with a few pieces of wood between lower chassis x-frame and transaxle
30. Remove transaxle support bolt at rear end of trans mount
31. Remove trans mount bolts/nuts to chassis to completely free trans mount
32. Remove trans mount through hatch opening
33. Remove transaxle.

a. Remove three nuts the three free nuts
b. Loosen final nut (captive), then slide transaxle back to remove final nut
c. (Note: Needed to cut out a portion of the diffuser body flange directly under the license plate. A semi-circular cut was made to allow the transaxle shift rod to drop down when the transaxle is pulled back from the engine)
d. Slide transaxle straight back, then angle down to clear body.
e. It’s heavy! Use a transmission lift.
34. Catch clutch fork before it falls to the ground
35. Remove pressure plate and clutch disk from flywheel

Engine Removal
36. Remove rear hatch from body (allows easier access to engine bay)
37. Drain engine oil; replace drain bolt
Next steps to remove headers:
38. Remove all plug wires (almost all of mine need to be replaced)
39. Remove engine-to-chassis ground cable (driver’s side chassis to cylinder head)
40. Remove oil dipstick/tube
41. Unbolt drivers side header and remove
42. Unbolt passengers side header and remove (Note: this side is much more difficult to extract because of the coolant temperature sensor. May want to drain coolant first, then remove sensor to give more room to maneuver).
Next steps to attach engine hoist plate to valley
43. Remove wiring harness (lots of connectors!)
44. Remove vacuum line from front of intake manifold
45. Remove intake manifold (OK to leave throttle body attached)
46. Clean valley area to keep debris out of cylinders. Clean cylinder heads and tape over cylinder openings to keep crap out
47. Remove valley cover
48. Clean valley flange
49. Install valley cover engine hoist plate
Next steps to remove idler pulley bracket so engine can clear rear wall when removing
50. Remove passenger seat
51. Remove waterfall cover
52. Remove aluminum accessory shield under waterfall
53. Remove serpentine belt by camming idler pulley
54. Remove idler pulley bracket assembly
Next steps to drain coolant
55. Remove coolant overflow canton tank cap
56. Remove trapezoid access cover on underside of chassis
57. Place a dam of some sort (aluminum foil) under main coolant lines where rubber hose meets the straight pipes.
58. Position a garbage can under area to catch drained coolant
59. Disconnect both rubber hoses from the straight pipes and drain coolant
60. When finished draining, re-connect hoses to tubes, ready for refill
61. Disconnect other end of the main hoses from the water pump
62. Disconnect heater hoses from the water pump (need to replace front heater hose – ripped when removing)
Next steps to remove flywheel and KEP adapter plate
63. Remove flywheel
a. Use aluminum angle shop-made tool attached to flywheel to keep it from turning
b. The aluminum tool levers against the trans studs to keep the flywheel from spinning
64. Remove KEP adapter plate
Next steps to deal with A/C compressor
65. What do I do now?


-Michael

[Kalstar]

Mike...oh crap!!! I'm next, so much for one weekend fix time.

Crash, nice to see you body in one piece again.

[LCD Gauges]

I've been making good progress on the LCD gauge project,
and have started to integrate the sonor system into the mix.

Does anyone have a high resolution photo of the GTM from a top view?