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gearnoob
03-22-2020, 01:25 PM
Hi,

So I'm trying to chase down my poor idling issue and when tearing down the engine I noticed that the purge control solenoid valve isn't hooked up at all... the wire connected to it is ripped out of the connector cable and I accidentally tore it out the rest of the way. I'm going to try and repair the cable/buy a new connector online, but I can't figure out where everything is supposed to route...

I found the deletion diagram online:

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but I can't figure out where those lines actually are (can't spot them underneath the intake manifold and I can't see them above it either...)

I found the port that the purge valve (#3) is supposed to plug into on the intake manifold, but that's about the only thing I could find...

Here's a picture of where I think #3 is supposed to plug into (and what I need to cap off):
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The one circled in orange is where I think it's supposed to plug into but I can't find any of the other connecting points other than what I circled in purple which is what I think one end of the purge control solenoid valve (#2) is supposed to plug into?

Any pictures of where those lines are would help a million! I can't seem to find A,B, and C. The car has aftermarket a Boomba Racing fuel rail setup, and I really need to clean up all of these lines....

gearnoob
03-22-2020, 02:19 PM
Looking at the FSM I found this page:

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Which shows a bit of contradicting information to the previous diagram...
The diagram on #14 indicates that A goes to the intake manifold (that purple thing I circled?;#12) and B goes to the purge valve but the deletion diagram shows that B goes to the evaporation pipe and A goes to the intake manifold and the purge valve?

Diagram #11 just confuses me in general

Ajzride
03-22-2020, 03:11 PM
Does this video help? Mine was already removed wheN i got my kit from the PO. so I'm not sure how it used to be hooked up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aN88r4k3COg

STiPWRD
03-23-2020, 08:43 AM
You don't really need the purge control solenoid or the purge valve. I would suggest deleting those items and plugging up the fittings on the intake manifold. If one of those fittings is unplugged, it could definitely cause your idle issue by letting in un-metered air.

gearnoob
03-23-2020, 11:53 AM
Sort of! By the looks of it a lot of the stuff is underneath the intake manifold; however, lines A,B, and C (Fuel in/out + evaporation line) aren't actually there on mine because of the aftermarket fuel rails...

Does anyone know what to do instead of the evap line?

gearnoob
03-23-2020, 11:58 AM
Oh interesting, wouldn't deleting them completely cause an increase in pressure within the intake manifold? The whole point of it is to allow excess pressure to release out of the intake manifold (or so I thought).

I said in the last response to Aj that the new fuel rail system doesn't have an evaporation line on them and just has an in/out so I'm not sure what I'd do with the plug into the intake manifold and where I'd plug the purge control solenoid into... If could just block all of them off then that sounds great ;)

A picture is worth a thousand words so purple on this diagram is what I'm asking about:
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Could I just block the left one off and route the purge control solenoid valve one into the intake inlet?

STiPWRD
03-23-2020, 01:34 PM
The purpose of the purge control solenoid (i.e. part of the emission system) is to take the fumes from your fuel tank (as it vents from normal use) and recirculate them back into your intake manifold so they can be burned instead of vented to atmosphere. My motor runs just fine with no purge control solenoid. You can just get rid of the emission stuff and plug the intake manifold.

The fuel lines and the evap lines are two separate things - you don't need any evap lines for the fuel lines to provide fuel to your engine.

I didn't notice any purple on your picture. Here are the hoses I have hooked up into my intake manifold:
Fuel pressure regulator boost reference (front of intake manifold)
BOV/recirculation valve reference (below throttle)
PCV (below throttle)
Everything else has a cap on it

This is a helpful reference for where the hoses go:
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2614458