Gen 3 "Blackhawk" Coupe Build

[Erik W. Treves]

I will post details shortly. Just got from SEMA and have some stuff to do around the house,...wow...I am beat! Looking forward to this next chapter....let me know if you have any questions and once the car shows up I can provide any details you would like.

Check Back...and HANG ON....gonna be a fast one.

[Vette1972]

Did you order a Gen 3 for a new build?

[Erik W. Treves]

I did (look at the thread title :) )

[Vette1972]

Just double checking! It is an amazing new design. I will keep up with the build with great interest. I'd like to see one during the build phase.

[Erik W. Treves]

Where are you located?

[Vette1972]

I live near Beckley WV. About 3 hours north of Bristol TN.

[Sgt.Gator]

Subscribed! And great meeting you at SEMA, I'm looking forward to this build thread.

[erlihemi]

Will it have night vision and stick control?

[stack]

We should get the boys back together and knock it out in 48 hours

stack

[Martin]

Subscribing. These threads make me feel embarrassed. So quick, and such high quality as well. Looking forward to seeing this unfold.

[Vette1972]

Subscribed! It will be quite interesting to watch this build as it happens.

[6t8dart]

How soon before they start delivering?

[Erik W. Treves]

So, I decided to do this a little bit different this time...I always get asked...how do you do so quick...do I have kids, another job, married...answer is yes... to all...

It is really in the planning.... and understanding how the engineers at Factory Five intend the things to go together as well....

So planning for every build start months out...not when the kit shows up.

Things I know that need to happen DAY 1.

I need to get the nose off and poke the motor and tranny in to ensure the MT 82 Version 2 transmission fits in the frame...it is bigger than what was used during the design....so that is some risk there to schedule....but once I know I can pull it back out and go to town...

Aluminum is first to get marked and pulled and then ALL drilled....then off to coating the next morning.... locate front and rear components for suspension and hang those...Day 1 done....

now here is the how we go from here on out.... AFTER everything is cleaned in the garage....make a list for the next FEW things to do each day....AND ONLY WORK THOSE....then quit for the day. The next day if you find something that peeks your interest...put it down and look away. On your wrap up of that day go back and look at it and decide if you need to deal with it the next day or not. Then just keep the process going....

so... so far... this what has happened in my garage...

Engine and Tranny ready - installed new clutch and reorganized the wire loom so the ECU will go out the back
Turbos purchased
Injectors purchase - will go in when I go down to Wayne's for tuning - car will be NA until then
blow off and WG's purchased.

Have located exhaust suppliers (this will be custom), intercooler selection I think is done, the gauge pack I am going to use is already identified, interior accessories are coming together as far a plan, additional Factory five Accessories have been identified (AC and Heat, wipers and such)

SO this is how we sit now...

Turbos

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=60593&d=1478381479

Wire Loom disassembled and relocated so that the ECU can be mounted in the firewall

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=60590&d=1478381476

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=60591&d=1478381477

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=60586&d=1478381473

Waste Gates, Blow Valve and Injectors

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=60589&d=1478381475

Tranny Split from motor and new twin clutch installed

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=60585&d=1478381472

While that was going on ...painted the tranny and then reinstalled --- hope it fits --- plan already have a plan if the frame needs some messaging...

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=60587&d=1478381474

[Erik W. Treves]

Paint plan is also done early so that color coordination can be done during the build up so that the small details can be painted and coordinated....

Some will probably not like it... but I think the in a larger scale it will look right.... The color is from the UH60 Blackhawk CARC green... but this is automotive paint and will be done satin with the black stripes and other details along the way. From the Car Warriors plan... EVERYTHING gets touched... nothing goes on without something done to it....truly an exercise of make the whole better by concentrating on the small stuff.

So my thought: All sorts of blue and white coupes...there were only 6 of them anyway... Red has been done...all my cars are Grey and the thought was maybe just to do that...but maybe not... so start with this:

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=60602&d=1478382944

some imagination:

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=60580&d=1478381468

not sure I like the wheels all "murdered" out... but

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=60581&d=1478381469

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=60582&d=1478381470

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=60583&d=1478381470

sooo.... I think a "little" contrast...

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=60584&d=1478381471

so there ya go... all out of the bag....I will do this as close to real time as I can and post the any self induced issues (called the "Erik Factor" in my house)...and we see where we end up... hopefully right on target and no course corrections that are too drastic.

anyway... hoping for 600-650Hp or where ever the 7psi waste gate springs land us... should be more than enough!!!

Enjoy the thread.... should be a hoot... and I am thankful to be able to do this.... these cars are so cool and I can't stand not having one in the garage right now!

[Vette1972]

Great info. I knew the planning starts well ahead of time. Do you know when the Gen 3 build manual might be available? Seems a good place to start for a newbie.

[Erik W. Treves]

I don't ... sorry

[Vette1972]

I reviewed the photos of the 5.0 from the album. Is it new or a Mustang? I going to start looking for engine and trans in the next couple months. Thanks for the prep plan while waiting on the kit. Makes the thought process go in a more logical direction.

[Erik W. Treves]

It came from a 2015 mustang with 14k on it

[erlihemi]

I like it! Feels like maybe something with Garrett reference needed. Does the UH60 still use Garrett turbine? Maybe a shifter with cockpit reference and a heads up display? Don't follow tradition Erik, build it crazy!

[Vette1972]

Ok Thanks. Is the Gen 3 built to accept the 2010-2016 Mustang components? Don't want to be a pest but you seem to be the most knowledgeable person on the new design.

[2FAST4U]

Drooling....

[Tarmac]

Bookmarked

[Garry Bopp]

Go, Erik!!

Garry

[WIS89]

Erik-

LOVE the plan! It's going to be a great build, and I know you will build it at an incredible pace as well.

I really look forward to following along! The H-60 is a great bird, and your color scheme will look pretty cool. Different, but cool!

Gonna be a great ride!

Regards,

Steve

[q4stix]

I like the plan a lot! I think the color works well too, but I also started working where they built Chinooks and V-22s so I appreciate military colors.
Looks like you also sourced a die-cast Coupe for your planning stages! Works well for the initial concept :)

[GoDadGo]

Hey Eric,

I'll keep this short, sweet & definitely to the point.

1. Loved The Black Mamba & Saw It At The Beginning Of The Hot Rod Power Tour!
2. I Drooled Over Your Green Lantern When You Had It On Ebay, Way Back In The Day.
3. Heading To Panama City To See The New Type 65.
4. Can't Wait To See Your Interpretation Of This New Model Once Completed!

Radar absorbing paint would go a long way don't you think?

Steve >> aka: GoDadGo

[erlihemi]

Hey Eric,

I'll keep this short, sweet & definitely to the point.

1. Loved The Black Mamba & Saw It At The Beginning Of The Hot Rod Power Tour!
2. I Drooled Over Your Green Lantern When You Had It On Ebay, Way Back In The Day.
3. Heading To Panama City To See The New Type 65.
4. Can't Wait To See Your Interpretation Of This New Model Once Completed!

Radar absorbing paint would go a long way don't you think?

Steve >> aka: GoDadGo
Maybe turbo whine like a 2 1/2 ton and the wheel hubs make tail rotor noise about 55mph? Just kidding, definitely like the homage to the UH60 an a nod to Veterans.
Already a couple friends interested in the new gen 65 and I'm watching closely. Keep those pictures coming Erik!

[erlihemi]

Moderators:

Maybe start a separate Gen III section?.

[Mark Dougherty]

Eric
this sounds like a great build in the works.
Since John G will be building his in our shop we have started also
all the parts are have been stripped from the challenge car, and prepped.
We will start a little differently than you as we will start with the body work first. fitting all the fiberglass
and off to paint while we build the chassis.

[Erik W. Treves]

Sounds Great Mark! I am going to go down to PCB this week and work the booth... I need to check some more stuff out... I am concerned a little that the MT 82 right out of the 2015 will be "tight" and might need to message some stuff...

Today all that I got done is that I made my own motor lift mounts and spreader bar since the factory removes them from the car after they install the engine...and they are $$$ to buy...so ...extra metal laying around now has a purpose :)

As soon as the motor is fitted and the panels drilled I plan on also getting the body off to paint...I think....lol... we'll see.

[Vette1972]

Hi Eric, Do the Roadster threads on a build correlate to the Coupe on basics, such as how to mount suspension, dropping engine & transmission, etc? There seems to be more threads on Roadsters as they are more popular. Len

[Raceral]

Watching closely

[CraigS]

Moderators:

Maybe start a separate Gen III section?.

No please don't. One reason I never look at the 289 forum is that there are so many sub-forums. It's not like there is going to be something posted every day on a dozen forums.

[jkrueger]

Love the color combo. Black wheels would look nice as well.

I am looking forward to following your build. You always do such a great job.

JC

[Carlos C]

Erik:

It was great catching up with you this weekend and talking shop. I'll be looking forward your build, especially now that I got up close and personal with the Gen 3. Since I'll be helping Henry build his whenever I can, I'll be your "internal source", if he decides not to share info with you. But hey, keep it on the DL. We wouldn't want him to find out...

Carlos

[65 Cobra Dude]

Haha, 2 Chiefs conspiring against me ;) Wish I could've been there but work was beckoning. Next year for sure!!! Build plan sounds awesome Erik. I am still deciding on color. My motor/tranny is coming in tomorrow from Mike Forte and I am picking up wheels/tires and kit in a few weeks. Really looking forward to this. I'm sure we'll be talking quite a bit once we get moving forward.

Henry

[Erik W. Treves]

Here is what I ordered so we can track it together:

COMPLETE COUPE GEN 3
POWDER COATING GEN 3 COUPE CHASSIS
31 SPLINE 2015 IRS 10.625" DRIVESHAFT
BODY CUT-OUTS
BOX 9 D LOWBACK VINTAGE RACE SEATS
COYOTE POWER STEERING COMPONENTS
FRONT LOWER ARMS - STANDARD WIDTH
2015 IRS PARTS
COUPE NOSE SCOOPS
COUPE WINDSHIELD WIPER ASSEMBLY
GEN 3 COUPE BLACK CARPET KIT
RDSTR FRONT SWAYBAR COMPS (4/14/15 +)
2015 IRS SWAYBAR COMPONENTS
2015 IRS CENTER SECTION AND SPINDLES
GEN 3 COUPE COYOTE A/C KIT
18x9/11" 5 LUG HALIBRAND REPLICA WHEELS
2015 IRS STOCK BRAKES
COYOTE/3V HEADERS WITH FASTENERS

[ehansen007]

Quit bragging and get to work. :cool:

[Vette1972]

Sounds like a fantastic build. I'll keep track with great interest. Len

[65 Cobra Dude]

Here's my order:

COMPLETE COUPE GEN 3
POWDER COATING GEN 3 COUPE CHASSIS
COUPE GPS GAUGE SET W/KIT
MODULAR ENG/TRANS MKUNT KIT
COYOTE FULL LENGTH SS HEADERS
31 SPLINE 2015 IRS 10.625" DRIVESHAFT
BODY CUT-OUTS
BOX 9 D LOWBACK VINTAGE RACE SEATS
COYOTE POWER STEERING COMPONENTS
FRONT LOWER ARMS - STANDARD WIDTH
2015 IRS PARTS
COUPE NOSE SCOOPS
GEN 3 COUPE COYOTE A/C KIT
COUPE WINDSHIELD WIPER ASSEMBLY
GEN 3 COUPE BLACK CARPET KIT
14" LEATHER STEERING WHEEL UPGRADE
RDSTR FRONT SWAYBAR COMPS (4/14/15 +)
2015 IRS SWAYBAR COMPONENTS
2015 IRS CENTER SECTION AND SPINDLES
12.88' FRONT WILWOOD BRAKES - RED W/KIT
12.88' 2015 IRS WILWOOD BRAKE KIT - RED
DROP SHIP BRAKES

Very similar builds except I am using a new stock Coyote and TKO600. I will use the 18" wheels but I already have them.

Thx,

Henry

[FFinisher]

Looks like I will be building one too! I have a customer who has ordered one and I am working on Pricing for a 2015 coyote with an e-force supercharger!

Order looks just like yours Henry, but with AC/Heat.

Customer is currently in Saudi Arabia, but lives in Houston.

[Vette1972]

Erik and Henry, two great builds side by side. For a new guy to this type of building it is going to be a great education. I can't wait to see the threads from you both. I have started to look for a donor Mustang. Hope for a fall 2017 chance to build. Len

[Carlos C]

What is this? A competition to see who has the biggest Coupe order? I would suggest comparing cubic inches, but both of you are using the same amount...

Carlos

[FFinisher]

Q
What is this? A competition to see who has the biggest Coupe order? I would suggest comparing cubic inches, but both of you are using the same amount...

Carlos


I wouldn't play that game, Henry will build a beautiful car as will Erik. Erik will use to or three turbos and a couple superchargers, 4 shots of nitrous and a red bull and be done by Christmas . Unless he has to work. Then by New Years.....eve

[Jeff Kleiner]

Looks like I will be building one too...

Customer is currently in Saudi Arabia, but lives in Houston.

Bastages ;) I'd love to do a new Coupe! I'll just have to build vicariously through you guys for now. Ron, I think I might have talked to that guy a few months ago about doing a loaded up roadster.

Jeff

[TimC]

Here's my order,,,,,















:(
Living vicariously through y'all's adventures.
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,↑↑↑↑(correct red-neck pronunceeashun)

[Erik W. Treves]

Spent an hour in the garage today...

cut about 2 inches off the shifter so I wouldn't make the throw extremely long...reverse lockout still works

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=61131&d=1479581186

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=61130&d=1479581185

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=61129&d=1479581184

[erlihemi]

Figured out where to hang the rocket launcher yet?

[Vette1972]

Erik, do you have a delivery date on the new Coupe kit?

[Erik W. Treves]

should be 2 week in dec.... kit completion date is scheduled for 5 dec.... it will show when it shows.... :)

[Vette1972]

Cool. That's not too long. Great Christmas present!

[erlihemi]

Erik,

Have you wrung out the MT82 on another project? I wasn't paying attention to the gear splits, but, if it holds up I like the deeper first on single overdrive over the T56. Is that shifter going to be where you want it? I missed that getrag swap along the way. Curious to how those are working out on the coyote.
I love that shifter!

[Erik W. Treves]

So there are 2 versions of the MT82... the change happened in 15 due to some issues of version 1. The MT82 v2 seems to be holding up quite well on the 15 mustang at the high hp levels.

The shifter position as it sits is 1.5 inches aft of the T56. I should be able to move the shifter very easily by cutting and welding the linkage.

As far as height... I cut 2 inches off the shifter handle and then stuck the cyclic head on it... so when you place you hand "in" the grip, you are at the same height as you were before. The head of the grip is like 3.5 inches above where you grip it...so it only looks high... so far... :)

[Mark Dougherty]

that is sick eric

[Erik W. Treves]

So here is the initial plan:

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=61256&d=1479865361

[GoDadGo]

Man I Wish I Could Have Gotten You To Wire The Chevy Cobra!

Nuff Said Cause This Shift Is Over My Head!

Really Cool!

[Vette1972]

That is the coolest shifter I have ever seen and operational. Nice!

[Jacob McCrea]

That's one of the better things I've seen in a while. Carry on!

[vnmsss]

......My Gen 3 "R" model Coupe is on order........With any luck will be ready by the end of December, or maybe more accurately, after John G.'s is done. Bwahahah!!!

Looking forward to following everyone's builds! Coupes Rule!! Karen

COMPLETE COUPE GEN 3-"R"
UNCOATED GEN 3 COUPE CHASSIS
COUPE PLATINUM GAUGES
COYOTE MOUNTS W/TRANS MOUNT PLATE
COYOTE STAINLESS 4-POINT FULL LENGTH HEADERS
31 SPLINE 2015 IRS 10.625" DRIVESHAFT
BODY CUT-OUTS
COMPETITION ALUMINUM HIGH BACK RACE SEATS
COYOTE POWER STEERING COMPONENTS
FRONT LOWER ARMS - STANDARD WIDTH
2015 IRS PARTS
COUPE NOSE SCOOPS
COUPE WINDSHIELD WIPER ASSEMBLY
RDSTR FRT SWAYBAR
2015 IRS SWAYBAR COMPONENTS
2015 IRS CENTER SECTION AND SPINDLES
GEN 3 COUPE COYOTE HEATER/DEF/A/C KIT
18x9/11" 5 LUG HALIBRAND REPLICA WHEELS
12.88" FRONT WILWOOD D/S W/RED CALIPERS
12.88" 2015 IRS WILWOOD D/S W/RED CALIPERS

[erlihemi]

Wow! I guess those sticks don't have feedback synchros anymore? That's really cool Erik. Just don't bump the line lock when you punch the nitrous while double footing out of the corners...

[TimC]

That shifter is THE coolest thing. How does the electrical controls work, PLC?

[ehansen007]

So here is the initial plan:

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=61256&d=1479865361

This is going to be sweet. can't wait to see it. That line lock location would worry me though.

[Erik W. Treves]

that's why it's an "initial plan" :)

in any event I have a couple hundred hours behind this stick... that switch doesn't get hit by accident and the detent is pretty strong...

[Sgt.Gator]

Are you going to duplicate the Horn, Flash to Pass, and Turn signal functions on or near the steering wheel?

[Erik W. Treves]

was not planning on it at this point. I was thinking about making the shifter assembly removable and all the connection, so can could swap out to a normal shifter, in which case I would need to duplicate it... So with shifter installed the signals would come from there....without the shifter installed the signals would come off the normal places.... but not both.

[Sgt.Gator]

IMHO, The FCS stick is so you can keep your hand on the flight control without having to reach for a switch, maintaining control of an aircraft.
Switches on a steering wheel or close by on a stalk are so you can keep your hands on or very near the steering wheel to control the car. Plus those switches are more or less in your line of sight straight over the hood.

Reaching from the wheel to the shifter to hit the horn or turn signals is not a good idea. My $.02.

[wareaglescott]

Had a similar idea in my MK4. I have only go carted but it is lot of fun to drive with. Looking forward to following this build!http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=61321&d=1479940305

[erlihemi]

IMHO, The FCS stick is so you can keep your hand on the flight control without having to reach for a switch, maintaining control of an aircraft.
Switches on a steering wheel or close by on a stalk are so you can keep your hands on or very near the steering wheel to control the car. Plus those switches are more or less in your line of sight straight over the hood.

Reaching from the wheel to the shifter to hit the horn or turn signals is not a good idea. My $.02.

Well maybe a Gatorade dispenser and HVAC controls could be wired in?;)

[Erik W. Treves]

So, I wanted to run an in tank fuel pump, but that configuration with a fox tank is a bit tricky unless you want to spend a lot of money.... so a call to Mr Very Cool Parts... yielded , oversized fox style fuel pump holster with welded -6an in and out with anti aeration tube and Walbro 465 pump.... I am hoping that will make it run ok

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=61863&d=1481596015

[Erik W. Treves]

Got "The Call" today.... Stewart will be here Wednesday morning bright and early!!! Already having to change the build plan due to the powder coaters being closed for the holiday... so looks like turbo fabrication will be first on the list, fuel, and all suspension until the first of the year.....

[Vette1972]

Nice! Looking forward to you working the magic on the new Coupe. Already subscribed. Len

[R Thomas]

Since I'm sure you placed the order with direct contact I have a question. the things I have read so far say A/C-Heat is not compatible with the power steering option, but you list both? Are you doing custom brackets or have things changed?

[Erik W. Treves]

There are kits online to do this or I have a welder... so we will figure something out....guess you will have to stay tuned.... ;) .... who knows how it will turn out...that's the fun part

[Vette1972]

Christmas is four days early this year. Congrats Erik!

[Erik W. Treves]

Well Santa's helpers are out early.... Got the call that we pushed up one day....

Once again, great support from Stewart, very friendly and helpful. I was actually stuck in traffic so he was waiting on me!

Quickly unloaded 5:30pm ... well there is like 10 million boxes... so quick is relative.... did the inventory and laid out the boxes in what I think will be the order to attack them in....course got done with that... and heck... might as well open the box I was gonna do in the morning.....so Box 15 is done!

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=62115&d=1482285074

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=62116&d=1482285075

And it looks like we have some 818 design here with Both R and S mounts on the same frame.

Lower A-Arms all greased up and set loose in there until we get ride height set and then torque......

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=62117&d=1482285076

I will get the nose off in the morning and finish up the front suspension... the aluminum that I normally remove almost right away will remain for this build so I can set the engine and take a look at turbo placement.

[Vette1972]

Body looks great in photos. How does it look to you?

[2FAST4U]

This is the coolest build ever

[Erik W. Treves]

Body looks great in photos. How does it look to you?

Looks fine to me... really haven't looked at in great detail


This is the coolest build ever

thanks Bill... maybe in "theory" .. we'll see how it executes... keep it up on your 289.... looking like something now! will be a nice piece when it is done.

[Erik W. Treves]

So one thing I wanted to show that I noticed right away...and I am not sure how long this washer has been available ... but it "seems" to actually fit on the ball joint and will allow you torque everything up, I will report back if this is the case...The lower ball joint looks much better as well....way to go FFR, thx for that.

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=62118&d=1482297430

Didn't get any more done tonight :( had Hockey night so off to grab a few hours of sleep so I can hit it a bit tomorrow before family arrives....they have just been recruited :)

[Owlknight360]

Do you know what kind of ball joint you have in the picture. IE brand or part number. I have a Gen II coupe, and your ball joint looks very different from mine. My ball joints came with a rubber boot (the blue part in your picture) that does not fit and is already cracked.

[Erik W. Treves]

Umm...I tossed the box...sorry

[Erik W. Treves]

So started out planning on taking a full day off from work....well that didn't work... sooo

Took the nose off, and reorganized the boxes in a better order and so I could free up some space to get the welder out to start the turbo mock up.

so only about 2.5 hours on the car so far... both front corners are in and greased, still have to paint the calipers (tomorrow) . Have run out to get some POR15 in the morning and some other supplies.... but I expect to have some more stuff done....so far no snags at all... the rack would have gone in but it won't be here until some time in Jan....I will probably throw the front sway bar on tomorrow.

anyway...you know the rules...

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=62146&d=1482377636

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[John Dol]

Looks great Erik,


John

[David Hodgkins]

What is that big piece of AL for?

:)

[David Hodgkins]

What is that big piece of AL for?

:)

Nevermind, I didn't understand the radiator orientation...

[Erik W. Treves]

Another day.. still haven't gotten into the grove yet...I am supposed to be on vaca but work keeps gets getting in the way... anyway... got the IRS chuck painted the color of the car then cleared and installed....oh my.... that was a big PIA. Painted all the front brakes, they are drying now...I will probably put those on here after dinner....StopTech pads for the front come with the kit... nice! Also torqued and cotter pinned the ball joints.... Engine hopefully in tomorrow and will start with the rear suspension.... I did put the rear shocks together today as well... so that will be waiting on me. Nice to get more boxes out of the garage!

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=62169&d=1482451986

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[wallace18]

Eric you may want to paint the driveshaft adapter as well as the drive shaft. On my 427 customer car both turned to rust in 2 weeks.

[Erik W. Treves]

thanks! it's cleared already :) I did notice that every salvage yard that was selling IRS had rusted center sections and uprights.

[65 Cobra Dude]

Owlknight360, the upper ball joints are made by Supreme MevOtech part number MK772.

Chief, car is coming along great. I have front suspension done and now working on the Wilwood brakes. Rear end this weekend. Thanks for the heads up on how to install it. Jim at FFR did say it's a PIA.

Nice Work!


Henry

[Erik W. Treves]

great talking with you today Sir. Yeah... verified and validated.... pain in the ...... no skin was lost.... but lots of words used :) I hope I never have to change that rear gear!

[Erik W. Treves]

ok... finally got a little over 6 hour on the car today... got a lot done... finished the front suspension (minus rack which is B/O), put the motor in for turbo mock up and mounted the driver side turbo. All in all not a bad day... a lot of learning on how to get the motor in... I had to take the alt, a/c and oil cooler out... the stock AC unit does not play well with the shorty header... will have to figure something out with the AC compressor. Also, if you are using a donor engine... PULL all the header stud out BEFORE you put the motor in the car....that was not fun. The pass side is fine... the driver side they all had to be removed.

Anyway... moving to the back of the car tomorrow... then pass turbo... then I should be able to take the motor back out and start rocking on the aluminum...

enjoy....

turbo mounted:

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=62206&d=1482539963

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http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=62208&d=1482539965

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mustang tranny fits pretty good:

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=62210&d=1482539966

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=62211&d=1482539967

[GoDadGo]

Don't Go Hating On Me But I've Got To Put A Chevy & ZF 6-Speed In One Of These Things!

Thanks for posting these photos and I can't wait to see this one after you work your magic!

[Vette1972]

Erik, you are moving along very well. It is fascinating to see a coupe go together. Thanks for the photos and comments. Len

[Erik W. Treves]

Light day on the car today... no pics...

Gas Tank is in... fuel pressure lines run to the regulator and to the engine.... had the garage door open today and I think the neighborhood came by to see what I was working on now....lol.... Still have to mock up the pass side turbo and work out the exhaust side exit and make a tranny mount before I can pull the motor back out and start rocking the aluminum...and of course I ran out of TIG gas... so that is first on the list...rrrrr never fails...

Overall... pretty pleased with the design of the car and the packaging...as with the 818 beta, small things here and there... but that's why it's a beta! This is the first time I have done a car this way..leaving the body on.. I can't say I like it very much but it is doable and it forces me to install things in a way I can get to it later.... which isn't a bad thing....

The tranny out of the mustang is going to be a trick to use... the shifter totally won't work. it is way too far back. I think I may have a way to make some linkage to get it to work out nice... but that just means more fabrication.... but that's fine...my shifter isn't exactly stock either.

In any event... progress is being made.

stay tuned!

[65 Cobra Dude]

You'd think it was a family Holiday or something :) Cutting those rear IRS spindles was a PIA but it's done!!! Merry Christmas Chief!


Henry

[Mark Dougherty]

Eric
you are doing a great Job
looks awesome
I cant wait to join you and Henry this coming weekend in building a GEN 3 coupe
Lets hope the back orders are not to many.

[WIS89]

Erik-

Like all your build, I know this one will be great. I am subscribed, so I don't miss anything!

Great progress, and I have enjoyed seeing what the new Coupe is like. Looks like I need to start working on getting my wife's approval for my next build!

I look forward to seeing what you all get done during your mini build party next weekend. Thanks for including us in the ride!

Regards,

Steve

[Erik W. Treves]

Finishing up the fab portion of the build.... the turbo's twin is up and mounted... looks good... a little tighter than I wanted.... but for now ok.

still have to finish putting gussets on my tranny mount... that's tomorrow...

then I have to work on my shifter linkage... another full day of fab work more than likely. ... will finish up the rear suspension as well...

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=62330&d=1482964420

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=62329&d=1482964418

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=62328&d=1482964417

[Vette1972]

Erik,

You are moving along quickly. Thanks for the photos. It's great to see how these go together. Thanks, Len

[edwardb]

Nice to see you well the Coyote fits into the new chassis. Like it was made for it. :) Love the rubber glove on the throttle body.

I'll be watching this thread closely.

[Erik W. Treves]

Well quickly finishing up the drivetrain mock up... rear brakes will go on tomorrow and then off with the body until the pipes show up....also custom pieces (of course)....anyway... got a lot done with the MT 82 tranny.... ended up gutting the shifter and building my own assembly and then welded the "cup" to the end of the transmission interface... this allowed me to keep the tranny completely stock and unmolested. Then I had to shorten the heck out of the shifter and reconfigure it to accommodate my shifter head and a good seated position... I think it came out pretty good and it shifts pretty darn nice! I still have to clean up the hardware and all,,then the shifter boot...but it will look nice in the end I think.,... I still have to figure out the reverse lock out.. but that is for another day!

Also finished the tranny mount...lots of in and out of the car and cutting and grinding...just kinda designing on the fly with metal and a welder...made a mess of the garage!


anyway.,..

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=62390&d=1483147484

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[65 Cobra Dude]

Nice work Chief!!! That shifter and tranny mount are top notch.

Henry

[Erik W. Treves]

Got a lot done today.... the suspension is all in and the brakes as well...if had tires it would be a roller... got most of the aluminum marked and have started pulling panels to drill... also recycled the 2015 mustang master so it will mate right up to the stock tranny....it came out pretty slick.... Course the body is now off so I can really get after it... some more pics

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=62426&d=1483228072

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=62427&d=1483228073

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=62428&d=1483228074

[Vette1972]

Erik, Lots of progress today. Things are looking great. Enjoying seeing you move forward. Happy New Year! Len

[wallace18]

That is going to be one very cool car!

[erlihemi]

Erik,
Will the valve covers come off in the chassis? Looks about 30" across those parallel braces. Nice packaging on those turbos. Where do you tie in the APU bleed air?:). Looks awesome.

[Erik W. Treves]

A little more unpacking today...was going to get the e brake done but got a little side tracked...anyway... drilled a most of the right foot box aluminum and firewall so I can drop those at the coater..mounted the ECU so it peeks out of the firewall and mounted the ECU power distribution panel, hooked up the DBW throttle and routed and mounted the that harness... I then removed the aluminum, but mounted everything back and took pics so you can see where everything goes without the aluminum in the way.... also changed out the oil tank... so yes you can drop the pan in the car. If you are going to use the MT82 tranny the bellhousing has 2 bolts with harness studs that need to be removed in order for the pan to go on. The oil pickup tube height was spot on out of the box.

anyway...pics

will add some cushion to help with any vibration

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=62455&d=1483313823

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[Erik W. Treves]

Quick day today... gonna spend the rest of the day on the couch... dropped off some aluminum at the coaters..still have 2 more loads to do...

Ran and completed the fuel lines and installed the E-Brake and Cables then adjusted... done. The e-brake to cable needed some love to work...

Cleaned the garage....

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=62472&d=1483397169

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[2FAST4U]

Wow! You are really making progress! I can't wait to hear this thing fire up. Way to go!!

[Erik W. Treves]

Been super busy at work...work 6 12's last week so only got a little done. Got the motor pulled back out since all the major fab work is done on the turbos... finished up the driver's foot box... will finish the pass side engine compartment side this week and get the brake lines run then poke the motor in for good this weekend.... I am using a new product for me for the foot boxes.... with the cobra being open top, I never worry about foot box heat... this time since the coyote motor is so wide, and the turbo headers do get very warm, I added some heat blanket to the outside inside panels... I will go back on the inside of the foot box and add some additional protection... but this should work. Looks pretty slick. I still have to go back and touch every rivet with some touch up paint (details)....unfortunately, after the motor goes in, you probably won't see about an inch of my hard work....meh... at least we know it was done....lol...

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=62620&d=1484017782

[John Dol]

Erik,

Foot box looks great. Can you tell us a little bit ore about the insulation you used?

Thank you,

John

[Mark Dougherty]

love it Eric

[KDubU]

Erik,

Foot box looks great. Can you tell us a little bit ore about the insulation you used?

Thank you,

John

Looks like lava shield.

[Erik W. Treves]

It is lava shield

[GoDadGo]

Erik,

Does any part of the driveline hang below the lowest part of frame or is it all tucked up tight?

Steve

[HCP 65 COUPE]

The lava shield almost looks like carbon fiber.

[Erik W. Treves]

The oil pan to me looks like it is JUST under as well as the MT82 cooling fins.... I should have the foot boxes done and the engine back in this weekend and I will take some detail pictures... nothing stuck out at me as strange... I also have the engine at the bottom of the adjustment.... so you could raise it is suppose

[Erik W. Treves]

The lava shield almost looks like carbon fiber.

It does look like it... I was going to gold...but I like this better

[GoDadGo]

The oil pan to me looks like it is JUST under as well as the MT82 cooling fins.... I should have the foot boxes done and the engine back in this weekend and I will take some detail pictures... nothing stuck out at me as strange... I also have the engine at the bottom of the adjustment.... so you could raise it is suppose

Thanks-O-Million!
I just was wondering where it sat because I didn't look at that when we came down to Panama City.
Good Luck & Can't Wait To See The Finished Product!

[Erik W. Treves]

Got a few hours to work on the car today...been totally slammed at work.

Anyway.... Brakes are all done, just need bled. Electrical for Chassis and engine all run. All aluminum now pulled and drilled... will go to coaters on Monday. Motor will go back in for good tomorrow more than likely.

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=62744&d=1484430500

Extra length left in the car for now until I get battery and such

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=62745&d=1484430501

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=62746&d=1484430502

[Erik W. Treves]

moving towards getting this to crank and make some noise....

Wiring is about 80% done... I am going to get it running with all the stock switches first then wire up the cyclic stick... Engine went in today for the FINAL time... while I was at it I went ahead and recycled the 2015 clutch tubing..fit nice. All I had to do is re-bend one line and it all worked out... I can go ahead and put brake fluid and clutch fluid in tomorrow. The Coyote Harness is 100% laid into the Ron Francis Harness... will work the seat heaters tomorrow as well as start working the custom driveshaft I need built. Looks pretty cool.

I had a couple people ask me about the MT82 tranny and how far it hangs below... so here are some more shots..

From the front... oil pan JUST below the frame:

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=62771&d=1484533334

from the side... the angle makes it worse than it is.... and now I am noticing some surface corrosion that needs to be taken of ...

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=62772&d=1484533335

Custom Made MT 82 tranny mount

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=62773&d=1484533336

Hydraulic Clutch line peeking out

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=62774&d=1484533336

getting ready to mount the intercoolers!

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=62775&d=1484533337

[HCP 65 COUPE]

Eric,

How hard is it going to be to get to that fuel pressure regulator later on?

[Erik W. Treves]

Shouldn't be an issue

[GoDadGo]

Thanks for posting the pics because I was really interested in seeing how far, if any, the driveline protruded below the frame.

If I had 1/2 of your skills the GoDadGo MK-4 would be running.

This car is really going to be something special!

[Mark Dougherty]

Eric
looking fantastic.

[Erik W. Treves]

Didn't get as much done today... had a few visitors and some friends came over.... so got the intercooler mounts made... one intercooler color matched to the car color... looks pretty good... had planned on measuring up the driveshaft, but that is a next weekend thing I suppose. anyway....

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=62828&d=1484612092

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=62829&d=1484612093

[Kiwi Coupe]

Hi Erik, really enjoying your build process and the pictures. I will be ordering one in April so really looking forward to building it. I am new to the site and no one has built a Coupe down here in New Zealand. I have seen your order to Factory Five but it would be really interested if you or anyone on the thread had a full list of all the items that i would need to buy to build the car??? Cheers Graeme.

[Olli]

Erik,

Did you mount the engine lower for any reason? Or is that where it just sits? The reason why I ask is that the oil pan being even that little bit below the frame would be an automatic fail at NJ title inspection.

Olli

[Erik W. Treves]

Everything just landed there Olli. You could shim it up I suppose

[johngeorge]

Everything just landed there Olli. You could shim it up I suppose

Erik, did you shim up the motor mounts? I believe the kit comes with shims you put in the motor mounts

[Erik W. Treves]

I did not see the shims in the kit.... do you remember what box they were in?

[Erik W. Treves]

I know the roadster comes with a shim kit... not sure I saw the one in the coupe box

[Erik W. Treves]

Olli, turns out I was missing the motor mount spacers..... thanks to you and John and jim.... they are on the way... I will mount them and show the after picture

[myjones]

Erik
With that powerplant it should be the most powerful coupe to date. Any plan to do a top speed run or a standing mile run with it?
With your final drive ratio what speed would redline be IF the COD doesn't win the battle?
Love watching the build.
Dale Berry
7Liter Hemi33

[Erik W. Treves]

Geez... I don't know....THe Green Lantern was a handful....we'll see I suppose....for sure it is going to the 1/4 mile track.... I mean it has a line lock....so a burn out or 4 will be required.

[96TennGT]

Erik,
Another Huntsville guy here (Madison actually). Would love to come over and see the build sometime. I'm currently converting a 96 Mustang to Coyote power but these builds are very interesting. If I can convince the wife maybe this will be next.

Byron

[Hankl]

Was just waiting for the Roaster mindset to evaporate,

Raise your right hand and say after me,

"I (State your name), do swear/affirm, that upon acceptance of this "Revered Coupe Jacket", will willingly subject myself to all manner of frustration and abrasion that my FFR Type 65 will provide. I further pledge that any and all fellow Coupe builders will have free reign in using the cash available in my wallet as they see fit to improve my build plan. I will not look down upon our fellow Roadster builders, but rather take pity on those not talented enough to build a race car with a roof, So Help Me God!"



It is my pleasure to present you with the "Revered Coupe Jacket", Here's your sign!!

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w284/hankl_album/straight_jacket_backFS-1.jpg

Hankl :cool:

[Erik W. Treves]

Come over any time...phone is 334 494 0764

[96TennGT]

Hank, is that my jacket? If so I'm honored. And a bit scared.

Thanks Erik, I'll give you a call. I don't do the just drop by think. Drives the wife nuts when people do that.

[Erik W. Treves]

Another few steps closer today.... work has let up some.... so spent the FULL day at it.... Seat heaters installed, some more wiring, installed the shifter for the final time, installed a good chunk of the aluminum.. the back is completely done, cockpit floors are in, battery installed and cables run...man I guess I got a lot done now that I am typing it all out... only 3 pictures but the under car shot looks great with the powdered panels....too bad it won't be seen.... anyway... closer to first start!

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=63043&d=1485042575

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=63046&d=1485043087

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=63045&d=1485042577

[GoDadGo]

Wow: This Chassis Truly Lends Itself To Ground Effects.

It looks like you could totally smooth things out under the entire chassis if there is room enough to move the drive line up just a smidge.

[Erik W. Treves]

only a couple hours on it this morning.... oil filter relocation kit installed... turbo wastegate installed on driver's side header and have begun connecting the intake plumbing.... should look good....

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=63120&d=1485111974

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[Jacob McCrea]

Erik,

This looks great.

Just out of idle curiosity, how is the fit of the aluminum panels so far? "Everything almost fits" was the old and largely accurate saying about the prior versions, and I'm curious about whether that's improved.

[HCP 65 COUPE]

Eric,

Are the seat pans wide enough to install modern racing seats?

[Erik W. Treves]

So far, even for a beta, everything fit really really well! I think based on my size no problem on the seats...I will be mounting the seats shortly and you will see how much room there is

[Erik W. Treves]

only a few hours on it yesterday after my eye check up... course I couldn't see too great after....

anyway, driver's side turbo header final install and wrap. Today I should finish up everything on the driver's side until first start....once the turbo stuff get's done should be cruising pretty steady... the green lantern took me about a month to do - so I think I am on track.

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=63304&d=1485604711

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[Erik W. Treves]

didn't get as much done as I wanted....

Driver's turbo now installed for the final time.... drain lines mocked up... need some line...cobra steering shaft "modified" to fit the coupe. (thanks john and mark)... I now have steering... installed radiator aluminum and placed radiator in the car. Alternator also went back in now that the turbo is in...the shorty headers and the alternator plug occupy the same space.... so I had to disassemble the plug and hard wire the alternator.... the AC and the shorty headers on the other side occupy the same place... so I will have to figure something out there (I have a plan already) . Hopefully I will move over to the pass side turbo tomorrow... I have to grind a bit on the frame to make rum for the driver's side drain line...also need to install the IC pump... getting close!

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=63318&d=1485653963

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[John Dol]

Nice progress Erik, starting to shape up nicely. All you guys are motoring through these cars a Mach speed 7.

John

[erlihemi]

Great build Erik! Looks like you may have almost enough rubber on it;)

[Erik W. Treves]

Closing in on that first start... all the extra crap for the turbos really slows this down... anyway... coolant is mostly in. Oil Filter is now in and filled. Both Turbos, headers and waste gates are installed and header wrap installed. Driver's side turbo oil return complete...still waiting on fittings for oil supply lines (which is the only reason I haven't started it) . Still have to bleed brakes and clutch and put fluids in the engine and tranny.... that should be the end of the mechanical and I can finish up the wiring after that...ordered my custom side pipes :) $$$$.... but they will look bad to the bone....so I had to have them.

The lower radiator hose is Dayco 81491 Henry... you WILL need this. You also have to trim the aluminum to get the hose in there....on exit... mine contacts the sway bar... so I will address that next...

it is looking like I should start it!

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=63648&d=1486330873

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[65 Cobra Dude]

Looking good Chief and thanks for the heads up on the hose.

Henry

[Jeff Kleiner]

The lower radiator hose is Dayco 81491. Henry... you WILL need this.



Do you reckon those are available at NAPA? ;)

Jeff

[65 Cobra Dude]

Mebbe! :p

Henry

[Vette1972]

Mebbe! :p

Henry

Anyone know a good NAPA dealer near Tampa FL? ;)

[tony chiles]

keep an eye on these two
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k284/hpbugeye/IMG_5570.jpg (http://s91.photobucket.com/user/hpbugeye/media/IMG_5570.jpg.html)

[Erik W. Treves]

Well.............................................. ...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2FN1eTl77g&feature=youtu.be

[Jeff Kleiner]

And that boys & girls is a typical Erik build. Actually that's not 100% correct; he'd have had it running sooner but has cut back on the Red Bulls.

:)

Jeff

[Erik W. Treves]

lol......well in truth .. those turbos took a little more work to put in... work go in the way of course.... but it's running now! ... now I have to tidy everything up, hook up the intercoolers and carry down to house of power....get some numbers on this bad bod!!

[Vette1972]

Erik,

Wicked sounding! Great to see it running!

Len

[John Dol]

Great stuff Erik, engine sounds good.
What is the HP you are shooting for with this set up?

John

[Erik W. Treves]

Should be a little over 600hp to the ground

[65 Cobra Dude]

Sounds great Chief! Congrats!

[Mark Dougherty]

Eric
you rock dude thats awesome

[Erik W. Treves]

Thanks guys

[Erik W. Treves]

So, since I had to make my own shifter, I lost the stock reverse lock out device since my Cyclic stick doesn't have that feature :) ---- But there is hope....this should work I am thinking....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqCojX6ZOpE&feature=youtu.be

[Erik W. Treves]

closing down on finishing up the turbo system up and putting more fluids in - like brake fluid.... course in true "erik" fashion...if it has fluid - it will leak.... my brand new line lock is leaking from the housing! - so that is a miss... good news is, it looks like my 2015 hydraulic clutch works pretty good.

Anyway.... looking pretty mean....

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=64180&d=1487461346

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[65 Cobra Dude]

Nice work Chief!!!

[Garry Bopp]

Erik,

You missed your calling ... should have been a plumber! LOL! Awesome work on the twin turbo installation.

Garry

[tony chiles]

Erik
Looking at your build, I can see improvement in every car you have done and it just keeps getting better on each build. You have always had speed in your builds, you built the mk1 roadster in 30 days in a carport in winter in KY(Who does that). But what I want to compliment you on is execution. The fit, finish and concept are in the Pro Category. There was a time when I thought I could teach you, Now I think you could teach me (a bunch). Keep up the good work.
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k284/hpbugeye/intentional-excellence-yeah.jpg (http://s91.photobucket.com/user/hpbugeye/media/intentional-excellence-yeah.jpg.html)

[Erik W. Treves]

wow! thx Tony!

[Vette1972]

Erik,

Fantastic look with the twin turbos!

Thanks, Len

[Erik W. Treves]

So this stage might take a couple minutes.... doors all good.... working the nose....

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=64709&d=1488756290

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[65 Cobra Dude]

Wow chief!! Best fit I've seen to date. Do you need a vacation to SW FL?

Henry

[wallace18]

Very Nice work!

[Garry Bopp]

Great work, as usual, Erik!

Garry

[John Dol]

Erik,

It's obvious yo are slicing through this like a hot knife through butter, but does this mean the door fit has actually improved on the gen 3?

Thanks,

John

[Mark Dougherty]

wow Eric
great job again

[Erik W. Treves]

Erik,

It's obvious yo are slicing through this like a hot knife through butter, but does this mean the door fit has actually improved on the gen 3?

Thanks,

John

So I can't comment on the Gen 2 or 1... for the most part the Doors went in "easy".... since I am a beta - I did have some challenges that others will not have...I pushed through - getting the gaps down was pretty easy... the nose fit is really good... the issue I ran into is that I used the pre-drilled holes to do the door fit, THEN> did the nose.....DO NOT DO WHAT I DID.

instead....put the body on the chassis.... do not secure it at this time.... Completely install the nose without the spacers and leave the forward aft nuts loose (this will allow the nose to slide left and right / forward and aft.

THe Body on the Beta Car will naturally favor the pass side....so what I had to do is push the body on the right side so the forward part of the door opening on the pass is as far FORWARD as possible. then you need to center the rear of the car (used the back glass opening) and measure off the frame to get square.

You will find you need to lift and push the body over to the drivers side some. Once the right side and the back are set, now start to look at the nose alignment left to right.... I ended up having to slide the left side of the body AFT about 1/2 to get the hood to line up to the body.... after that the fit is really good! in the pic I had just trimmed 2 passes on the hood gap and it was that close. The transition heights are really good along the sides and on the curve. I think this was an area that was an issue in the past... this was a non-event....the top part of cowl right now is higher than the hood, but that should get fixed once the rubber bumpers are installed.

After all that..... THEN DO THE DOORS....lol.... I have to go back and redo the hinges to line my gaps back but that should not be a big deal....

I hope to finish the hood fitment this weekend and finish cutting all the holes and latches and light holes... that should be the end of the major body fit and I start getting ready for the DYNO! I need to wash off the car since it is covered in fiberglass!!!! I am still itchy...lol... but I think this is time well spent.... make the body work and time at the painter much reduced.....I'm hoping!

[John Dol]

Thanks Erik,

Hope (potential) builders are paying attention.
Still working on my Gen 2 Coupe.

John

[METAL C6R]

Duly noted! John!

All these gen 3 coupe threads I am taking notes on. Just patiently waiting, same old same old.
(secretly regrets buying a car because I can't afford to build a coupe now, but I enjoy the hell out of it, so money well spent? lol)

I really like the setup you got going Erik!
I was debating about throwing TT's at my design, haven't made up my mind on that just yet, well.... lots of things actually lol!
Keep up the stellar work!

[Doug @ Forma]

.... since I am a beta - I did have some challenges that others will not have...

Erik, we've got chassis #9 in our shop, which they were told when we picked it up was "production" chassis #3. Are there things that you know were changed for production to avoid the challenges you described above that shouldn't be present in our car?

[boBQuincy]

Like you, I am reading all I can and taking notes, planning to buy a coupe kit this year! I hope to see John George's coupe at VIR and maybe some others soon. Once the beta cars are done, the production cars are sorted, and the manual is out it will be time to place an order!


Duly noted! John!

All these gen 3 coupe threads I am taking notes on. Just patiently waiting, same old same old.
(secretly regrets buying a car because I can't afford to build a coupe now, but I enjoy the hell out of it, so money well spent? lol)

I really like the setup you got going Erik!
I was debating about throwing TT's at my design, haven't made up my mind on that just yet, well.... lots of things actually lol!
Keep up the stellar work!

[Erik W. Treves]

sooo...... a lot of stuff you can't really see.... but the body is now square on the chassis and some adjustments were made so everything is happy.... waiting on tires and side pipes....been trying to figure out where to put the AC.... I think Wayne and I have figured something out and we are gonna try it this week hopefully.....still have some clean up to do under the hood... but I am liking the layout... and servicing it shouldn't be too bad... all that is left is to plumb the heat exchangers, get a driveshaft made and through the BIG injectors in and we should be ready for the dyno....hopefully mid to late next month....and PAINT!!!!!

anyway...

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=65668&d=1490578592

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[65 Cobra Dude]

Beautiful work Chief. I spent most of today working aluminum. FFR has new radiator aluminum as well as behind the seats in the cockpit. I also put in the new longer driveshaft. Do you need any parts of the old one? they also sent me new hatch hinges.

Henry

[Erik W. Treves]

I think I am good... I need to get those new behind the seat aluminum pieces...I got the new hatch hinges as well the other day....

[Wayne Presley]

The car is really great, Erik is doing a fantastic job!

[Erik W. Treves]

Wayne, thanks for your help yesterday.... hope to see you soon at the DYNO!

[GoDadGo]

If this comes out anything like #8,335, it too will be rolling art.

[Erik W. Treves]

Got an infusion of parts yesterday! so lot's of stuff getting put on the car.... my long awaited side pipes.... took all day to get the driver's side done...hopefully..pass side goes a lot quicker... getting two round pipes to fit into an oval pipe was a PIA....but it's done..a little grinding and should look mint! anyway... here ya go... also got my AIM gauge! super sweet. anyway...enough with me typing away..

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=65847&d=1491091254

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[Garry Bopp]

Awesome exhaust, Erik!

Garry

[GoDadGo]

Awesome exhaust, Erik!

Garry

I agree completely!

[WIS89]

Erik-

That single oval side pipe looks terrific!

I have been following your build thread, and I remain very impressed with your work.

The Gen III Coupe is a very sexy car!!

Regards,

Steve

[Erik W. Treves]

ran out of welding gas for the stainless.... so I stuffed the one hole I had with welding glove on the pass side pipe....here is a taste....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6upj7RedfU&feature=youtu.be

[Vette1972]

Erik,

That is awesome sounding! The oval pipes look wicked! Great build and thanks for keeping us updated.

Len

[65 Cobra Dude]

Looks and sounds great Eric! Difficult trying to keep up with you!!!

Henry

[Erik W. Treves]

So I am taking a few days off from work this week...

lot's of stuff getting finished....

Unpacked the gauge pack... very cool


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Rmv6gONV6c

custom driveshaft - MT82 to IRS with slip joint and universals on both ends.

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=66252&d=1491866891

Intercooler hooked up and finalized the plumbing...then filled with water and got all the air out....runs good.

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=66253&d=1491867052

Heat exchanger / AC condenser / radiator

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=66250&d=1491866864

Homemade mounts... will get bolted in instead of screws...

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=66249&d=1491866849

Infusion of parts from Wayne at VeryCoolParts....with a VERY COOL intake!!

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=66248&d=1491866835

[GoDadGo]

Erik,

I wish I had your 1/2 of your skills and all of your patience.
The Oval Side Pipes Really Look Totally Fantastic!

Steve

[John Dol]

Menacing looking pipes!

John

[Erik W. Treves]

Pipes all done...installed the last time for dyno....

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=66357&d=1492114308

and here ya go... video from the outside....all sealed up....it's loud....lol...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16hoOmIfK7Y

[CraigS]

Why the drive shaft slip joint? Just happened to be easy due to parts on hand?

[Erik W. Treves]

So, with my intercoolers taking up the spot where I am sure the AC/Heat unit is supposed to go.... more out side the "box" thinking was required.

While Wayne was up here last we kicked around a lot of ideas...this one made the most sense....

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=66370&d=1492171553

I will run the ducting back up into the back of the cabin. The defrost ducts will merge together and go through the tunnel up into the dash and split in two....

I have to make a custom fan box to rotate the blower so it draws air from the trunk... but I will do that with the body off.

[Erik W. Treves]

Why the drive shaft slip joint? Just happened to be easy due to parts on hand?

The stock driveshaft has a slip joint between the tranny and the first universal hanger bearing that is fixed to the chassis.... That is the section that I was copying or adapting... this allows the engine and tranny to move freely since I don't have a slip joint on the tranny end. It's hard mounted on each end.... hard to see in the picture.... here you can see the 3 bolt flange that I had to attached the universal to with another adapter that converted the 3 bolt flange to a 4 bolt plate that the universal is bolted to....

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=62473&d=1483397170

[Erik W. Treves]

Big day today! ..... drove... yes drove it out of the garage....!!!!!

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=66651&d=1492737010

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=66652&d=1492737021

[65 Cobra Dude]

Awesome Chief. Looks great and congrats on the mini go kart!


Henry

[erlihemi]

Great job! What's next??

[Mark Dougherty]

wow
Congrats Eric
I did the rear mounted ac on a roadster years ago
worked out fine

[Erik W. Treves]

Sweet... thanks for that

[Wayne Presley]

Looks great!!!

[Paul G]

Looking great. Hope to have ours sitting on it wheels this weekend so I can roll it out of the garage so I can get the Roadster ready for Huntington Beach next weekend.

[Vette1972]

Erik,

The Coupe looks fantastic! Nice innovations.

Thanks, Len

[wallace18]

Super Job!

[Erik W. Treves]

Initial Drive down the street to validate "go-cart" status... rough alignment is in, brakes seem ok, windshield and hatch fit... couldn't hammer down, no belts and no tune... so more to follow...

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=66801&d=1492969505

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video:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lq9wiGzKe2s

[Jeff Kleiner]

:cool:

Jeff

[Vette1972]

Super Nice!! :) Great sounding pipes. Thanks!

[Wayne Presley]

Very nice, sounds great

[Garry Bopp]

Great work, Erik! Sounds nasty!

Garry

[Erik W. Treves]

It is definitely loud... but does sound pretty mean or angry

[Vette1972]

it is definitely loud... But does sound pretty mean or angry

MEAN! Get out of my way, I'm coming thru, FAST!

[Mark Dougherty]

fantastic Job Eric
congrats

[WIS89]

Erik-

Looks and sounds awesome. Congratulations on coming so far so quickly, although that's nothing new for you!!

I always enjoy following your builds. Always lots to learn, and always a quality build!

Keep up the great work.

Regards,

Steve

[HCP 65 COUPE]

Congrats on the go kart man you sure are moving fast.

[HCP 65 COUPE]

Did FFR change the lemans gas cap?

[cnutting]

If I do another FF, it will definitely be the coupe. Looks and sounds great!

[Erik W. Treves]

Did FFR change the lemans gas cap?

umm... no.... Erik changed the gas cap :)

[ehansen007]

Sounds awesome man!

[GoDadGo]

Great progress & I love the oval pipes.

[Ram4x4sprt]

Congratulations, Mamba won best of show at HB.

[Erik W. Treves]

Thx... very cool... I miss that car

[skullandbones]

Those pipes are the best! I wasn't sure if anyone would ever create a really good looking set for that car. They don't sound bad either.

WEK.

[j65mustang]

by any chance did spintech mufflers make the side pipes for you?

[Erik W. Treves]

THey are not spintech mufflers... the design of the exhaust is pretty nice sounding but they are a little loud for me and a little surprising given the turbos...Wayne and I are going to try some things on the dyno to see if we can quiet them down some.... right now the 2.5 in pipe feeds into a 3 inch transition which dumps into the oval pipe which is about 6 inch... I think it's acting like a megaphone .... so we will see... sounds awesome though.

[Ram4x4sprt]

Thx... very cool... I miss that car

Wish we would've seen it ripping up and down the PCH with us.

[Erik W. Treves]

Quick update.... body is at paint... still have work left to do on the dyno so that will finish up later.. initial setup has the tune in it for larger injectors now...

mean while back home... started finishing up the wiring to include the shifter which will allow me to start the interior...

here is the video thus far of the Blackhawk Helicopter cyclic grip working all the functions.... still have to wire up the turn signals and hazards... those are next on the list... rather than go through a detailed list of what I did.... here is the video..


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHKC7luBk8U&t=15s

[Mark Dougherty]

Eric any numbers on the engine yet

[Erik W. Treves]

umm... no.... we ran into a few issues that we are working on....so I brought the car back home and will finish up everything else and look at going back down as the body is finished..... more to follow.

[adubbelde]

If you ever sell this car you'll need to provide a video on operation:D

[WIS89]

Erik-

Love the use of the cyclic!! I am doing something similar for my F-18 inspired build. I think it adds a lot of style!

Great progress, and as usual, plenty fast build! It's looking great.

Regards,

Steve

[Erik W. Treves]

a few more, small/big steps.... wiring is J_U_S_T about done... finished up the cyclic wiring...done... I have made the stick connection quick release incase I need to pull the tranny and such... one click and the stick is disconnected from the car. I also made a boot and recycled a shifter ring... I then moved to the AC unit since the body is off at paint... I think/hope this should work good....I also started putting in insulation/sound deadening...... I had to reposition my driver's side wastegate to make room for my cold air intake.... I had a 3inch piece of silicon that transitioned to 2 inch and it choked the crap out of the turbo...so now I have 3 inch all the way.... but had to do some welding...again...anyway... enough of that.... these are small pieces down but they were keeping from some major progress.... so here ya go...

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=67860&d=1494810502

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[Bob Brandle]

Erik, You've got a fascinating build underway. I'm growing to like your large single side pipes and would appreciate knowing what the basic dimensions are of the "rectangular-oval" pipe (width & height). What do you have in the way of muffler inside the side pipe? It looks like there is one large central "muffler" section with smaller sized entry and exit tip pipes, but in your discussions you don't mention if there is one.

Bob

Currently in the dream & planning stage with aspirations
to soon buy a Gen 3 Type 65 Coupe Kit
Former fabricator, designer & crew member of Trans-Am, Can-Am & IMSA GT cars in 70s

[Erik W. Treves]

Bob. The mufflers are 30 inch 6 3/4 oval with VERY little sound proofing in them... they actually are very loud... we put some vee diverter metal pieces in them to beat down the sound.... they do sound awesome

[Vman7]

Erik, Great Job!! :) Love the aviaton theme going on with the interior. I might have missed it, but what aircraft did you get that joystick from? Really love the sidepipes! Erik, you could probably sell them, or maybe have plans on how to make them. Keep up the great work!:)

David

[Wayne Presley]

It's a blackhawk cyclic stick

[Vman7]

It's a blackhawk cyclic stick

Ah, well that makes sense. Hence the "Blackhawk" name....duh, boy do I feel dumb....lol

[Erik W. Treves]

Welp. My wife says I always act cranky at this part of the build.... finishing up.... seems like things have to be done 3 and 4 times since I am finishing some areas... but this car seems to want to fight me a little at each turn...I got a slight cold so my mood was a little off....finally got the gas level to read out on the AIM dash only to notice that now my water temp was reading 256 with engine off and no coolant....no coolant cause my radiator had a crack in the weld...another story... well decide I must have a break in the wire going to ECU so I have to break open the nice wire loom I made.... only to find out that ... all the wires are good...but my gauge is still off..... so Wayne (who picks up the phone for me without any grief :) ) asks me if I have plugged in the OBD II reader? I hadn't of course... and sure enough there is a code for temp sensor out of limits....clear the code... look at that water temp reads ambient!! good think I broke open the engine harness .... rrrrr.... Then I needed to order wheel spacers.... Gen 3's running FFR 18 inch wheels....need at least 1 inch wheel spacers... so.. I figure I will bolt those on... nope... now my lug nuts are too long..... rrrrr....

So you see.... I am not a machine! I am just a man.... I struggle with the same stuff everybody else does.... only thing that helps is the "wayne method" is what I call it.... if you can't solve something right away....do something else! then come back to it....when the solution presents itself.... that and NO SLEEP and worry about EVERYTHING ....lol.....

Even with all this... I did manage to plumb the water lines all the way back to AC/HEAT, route the defrost hose to the dash area, completely wire up the AC/HEAT with AC demand wired into the Ford ECU , installed about 70% of the sound insulation and about 50% of the carpet. Going slow there as I am trying to make the tunnel top removable for service later if needed.... but still make it look like it isn't removable...

I will hopefully get the AC lines run to front of the car this week and that will allow me to seal up the tunnel and finish the carpet. Then about a dozen things that need some final adjustments (new steering wheel with quick release) and we wait for paint.

anyway.... here is the part that is done, done..

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=68088&d=1495412800

[65 Cobra Dude]

Looking good Chief!!!

[John Dol]

lookin' shahp, as they would say in New England!

John

[Erik W. Treves]

Thanks guys

[Mark Dougherty]

great choice on the carpeting

[Erik W. Treves]

Closing in on being "done" I suppose.... today was relatively a light day.... waiting on some small parts.... the "to do " list is pretty small... will knock a few of them of in the morning.... thought I would run the camera around the car so you can see it before it gets covered.... looks pretty good uncovered if you ask me :)

anyway... here ya go...

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=68287&d=1496006995

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[Erik W. Treves]

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