Gen 3 "Blackhawk" Coupe Build

[Erik W. Treves]

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[Mitch Wright]

Car looks great Erik

[Wayne Presley]

It does Mitch!

[Vette1972]

Super Sharp Car! Very nice job Erik.

[tony chiles]

very, very nice!

[Erik W. Treves]

thanks guys!

[johngeorge]

Top notch Erik!! keep up the great work

[Mark Dougherty]

great job Eric

[stack]

come on man get some body shop pics

stack

[Plebeian]

Boy that looks like a tight fit, great job! Are you going to run blankets on the exhaust housings, or possible ceramic coating? Any idea when you're going to try the dyno again?

[erlihemi]

Great job Erik, Looks awesome and I'm sure it will perform accordingly. You have set the Bar!!

[wareaglescott]

Looks great!
I have never really seen the inside of one of these. How is the underside of the body finished within the cockpit? Do you have a headliner? Is it a finished look or just the fiberglass?

[Erik W. Treves]

come on man get some body shop pics

stack

you must WAAIIIITTT ...... along with me :)


Boy that looks like a tight fit, great job! Are you going to run blankets on the exhaust housings, or possible ceramic coating? Any idea when you're going to try the dyno again?

Tight..... EXTREMELY tight.... it took a solid month to figure out how to get this all to fit and keep my OCD in check and have everything look symmetrical or at least close and not look like I threw it all in there.... and still leave room for things that that I did not have yet...like the front dress....which I hope fits when I get it!.... The TUBROs will get some DEI blankets... but I want to get some more time on the dyno to make sure they are not leaking first.... not sure on the dyno yet... the body and the dyno are about 5 hours away and I would prefer to do 1 trip and dyno and pick up body in one shot.... so this too must wait


Great job Erik, Looks awesome and I'm sure it will perform accordingly. You have set the Bar!!

boy I hope so...!!!!! and thank you!


Looks great!
I have never really seen the inside of one of these. How is the underside of the body finished within the cockpit? Do you have a headliner? Is it a finished look or just the fiberglass?

I think I have the underside shot on the first or second page of the thread.... the bottom is all powdercoated and/or painted (base/clear). The headliner is raw fiberglass, but factory 5 supplies material to glue in.....but of course....not using that either since I have something special in mind for that too....lol...

[METAL C6R]

I can't wait to see this thing done Erik!

I was thinking about making a TT setup and all that would entail, where stuff would sit, just "dreaming" about it if you will
Then I noticed the start of this build thread. It's been very informative and entertaining to see your process to getting this done. some neat ideas I haven't thought about. I hope to have something that will compete with yours eventually! it's been a puzzle on my end trying to figure where stuff will go (IE: intercoolers, and AC) without actually having anything in front of me besides sketches.

Keep up the stellar work! I am going to continue to reference this build log and the 48FFR from John George for a long while!

[Plebeian]

I can't wait to see this thing done Erik!

I was thinking about making a TT setup and all that would entail, where stuff would sit.

I have thought about the same thing but want to see how these Beta builds play out. After seeing how tight the fit is on Erik's with a Coyote and twins, I think I would instead lean towards doing a Dart 331-363 with twins and an auto trans like my roadster.

I'm still just watching for now.

[CraigS]

Not taking even a tiny thing away from Eric and his car but, you guys are aware of the Ford super charger available for the Coyote right? 600+HP in a pretty compact package. Maybe smaller than a TT setup.

[Erik W. Treves]

Those setups are really nice as well.... I was just going for a specific look...from day one i knew I wanted twin turbo.... the hellion setups rock

[Erik W. Treves]

IN any event...lol...

Test drive #2 complete.... line lock works pretty good hee hee.....

a few more pieces of carpet and we wait on paint and tune!

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[wallace18]

Very Nice. Can't wait to see it done!

[WIS89]

Erik-

She looks awesome and mean!! I know I have said it before, but you have mad build skills!

I know your paint is secret noforn, but can you share anything about it?

I also can't wait to see the HP and torque numbers when you and Wayne are through with it. You have a very impressive setup, that I think is going to be crazy fast.

Awesome job Erik, I am really looking forward to seeing her all wrapped up!

Regards,

Steve

[Erik W. Treves]

dash about 90% done...

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[wareaglescott]

Sorry if I missed it earlier in the thread but did you end up making the cyclic stick buttons functional?
If so a descriptive video of what they do would be awesome.

[HCP 65 COUPE]

Eric the packaging for the twin turbo's and intercoolers looks amazing.

[HCP 65 COUPE]

Eric did FFR move the wiper motor location to in front of the fire wall on the gen3 or did you modify the fire wall location?

[Erik W. Treves]

I believe they moved it... this where mine will go... but seems like it will work.... I didn't get instructions for it so I am just winging it

[Erik W. Treves]

Sorry if I missed it earlier in the thread but did you end up making the cyclic stick buttons functional?
If so a descriptive video of what they do would be awesome.


Check post 233.... only addition is the directional and 4 way and fog lights which is now wired in to the stick as well

[erlihemi]

Really awesome build Erik! Soon we'll be able to put the heads up display on the windshield...

[Erik W. Treves]

A couple more updates...

After a couple failed attempts to get the stock AC unit to work with the forward facing headers...I ended up buying the Coyote March front dress setup....it was expensive, but the engineering I didn't need to do was worth it.... so as of today we have power steering... still need a few hoses to hook up the AC... but should be relatively easy I hope.

I also got a new steering wheel with quick release from Wayne (VCP), I really like it! and with the power steering... it is slick.

Additionally with all this functionality added, I also added some more theme details.... Blackhawks have First Aid Kits behind each pilot.... so.......oh ... I also color matched the battery to the outside of the car....

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[Erik W. Treves]

Also since I have the AC/Heat in the back and I ran out of room in the tunnel.... one defrost hose goes to the front and gets split into a fiberglass duct I made....so that left me with one hose to either cap off or....... I cut a slit in the rear trunk panel and faced the rear defrost duct up at the rear glass and then narrowed hose to balance the air between the front and rear of the car....you can just see the slot here....

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[2FAST4U]

This build is so over the top. Incredible

[Erik W. Treves]

Thanks Bill. Glad you are working on yours again

[mpiersd]

With all the little steps your taking in this build I hope your keeping up with your 13-2 write-ups.

[Erik W. Treves]

oh! Now that's interesting..... gives me an idea.....

Logbook in the car with all type of documentation.... registration ; build sheet ; dyno sheet; maybe a generic 2408-12 and -13; -18 inspections for oil change....build pictures....

thanks!

[j65mustang]

just got my kit on Monday, didn't get all the parts and found some missing. but finally got to get some work done today, getting what I can done. just curious what you did for your gas pedal. the stock pedal you get with the control pack will not fit in the foot box. did you have to modify it to make it fit or use a different pedal?

[Erik W. Treves]

You have to trim the pedal per the instructions...assuming you are using the coyote pedal? There is a set of coyote install instruction you need if you don't have it already.

[j65mustang]

yea im using the coyote pedal, I got no instructions in the kit for anything.

[Erik W. Treves]

measure twice cut once!

and to be clear - I started cutting a little bit of a time and cut as little as possible

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[j65mustang]

ok thank you, yea always a good idea. I found those instructions on the website. btw your kit is looking very nice, all the pictures are cool

[Erik W. Treves]

I did not cut the arm of the pedal yet... seems ok to leave full length and isn't too sensitive.

[j65mustang]

yea I was trying not to cut the arm as well, mocking up my seat in place right now to see how much room I can get with the seat im gunna run.

[Erik W. Treves]

Getting closer!

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[CraigS]

Now for the fun part. Bondo dust in the summer-yea!

[Erik W. Treves]

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[Erik W. Treves]

I want to put out a huge HUGE THANKS to Wayne.... who put the killer tune on the HAWK COUPE..... I think this should do quite well!!! I can't thank you enough Wayne.... He kept sending me texts with more and more power.....so VERY COOL!

video will follow... this is right at about 10 psi....A little more than we were shooting for.... but....all good!


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[Jim1855]

That'll be fun!
I've been following, quietly.
Impressive performance and build.
Jim

[65 Cobra Dude]

Holy smokes - that thing is going to fly!!!

Henry

[Wayne Presley]

Here it is on the dyno


https://youtu.be/watch?v=-APO8gjqJpg

[Mark Dougherty]

FANTASTIC
you are right wayne
not to shabby

[Paul2STL]

Erik, that is going to be one fast beast. Once its done you need to make a video of it racing a Blackhawk down an airstrip. I am sure you can make that happen.

[tony chiles]

very nice!

[GoDadGo]

With numbers that impressive folks should be able to get a really nice look at:

The Tail Lights!

Very, Very Impressive Indeed!

[John Dol]

Erik,

That is awesome, it might just do a burn out in third...

John

[Abgar]

Nice setup and no dip in the horsepowers almost 1 straight line to the top same for the torque. Nice!!
Like the way how your building your car!!

[Erik W. Treves]

thanks all!

[ehansen007]

insane brother....insane.

[nkw8181]

What a great build. Making me want to build one even more. Would you say you and more or less hurdles then your 818 build?

[nkw8181]

So I'm ready for my next project. Just thought is post this here. Look at this on eBay http://www.ebay.com/itm/232445793419

[Erik W. Treves]

nice. The Coupe is more complicated than the 818 but similar in some ways.... so far I would say easiest (if you color inside the lines) - 818, roadster, 33, gen 3 and then GTM... but I am not sure if I would be certain on the 33 vs gen 3... both the builds I did/doing.... were NOT typical builds... so they brought another level of pain with them.... anyway... just my .02....

[nkw8181]

Thanks for the feedback. I actually meant to post that on my page :( sorry about that. Well I plan to color inside the lines on the 65 coupe (unlike my 818 build). I feel like I kept erasing the lines and redrawing them lol

[nkw8181]

Well maybe a little outside the lines. I want to use the same motor/trans as you :)

[Erik W. Treves]

Welp... SEMA is only about 2 months away....

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=73077&d=1504220165

[Paul2STL]

Come on let us see the Blackhawk!!!!

[65 Cobra Dude]

Tease!!!

[Garry Bopp]

Henry, let's get together and raid Erik's place and pull the cover off ...

Garry

[WIS89]

Erik-

Not even a sneak peak for us forum people, huh? You know they name streets after people like you --- One Way! HA ;-o)

I look forward to seeing how everything turned out!!

Regards,

Steve

[Wayne Presley]

Welp... SEMA is only about 2 months away....

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=73077&d=1504220165


I can tell you it looks awesome in person!!!

[Wayne Presley]

I do have spy shots available for $50 each...

[Erik W. Treves]

Weighing complete - cross weight set...

me in it (155 lbs) + 10 Gallons of gas... Full interior with sound proofing, AC/Heat, power steering, some turbo stuff .... so about 2782 without me or gas in it.

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=73543&d=1505179971

Drove it today a bit (2 miles) ....holy crap....yep it's fast...

[mpiersd]

I can't wait to see it unveiled. I bet it looks AWESOME!

[CraigS]

You know that cover is going to damage the paint right? You don't want to pull it off at SEMA and see marks in the paint. For safety's sake I think you should remove it.

[John Dol]

Erik,

Not sure I dig the red crinkle paint finish, and the wheel skirts!:cool:

Didn't know you where going to have a SEMA cliff hanger for us at the end of the build.
Looking forward to the unveil.

John

[GoDadGo]

The Black Mamba FIA was spectacular so I'm sure this car will take it to the next level and beyond.

Looking forward to seeing your car unveiled at SEMA.

[Erik W. Treves]

I hope it goes well.... I think it looks pretty cool. It is definitely unique! It is smoking fast... I drove it 2 miles (cheated).... it does drive pretty nice though as well. Been doing all the detail work for the last couple days... and making sure I didn't miss anything...

[rdcyclist]

I do have spy shots available for $50 each...

What's your PayPal?:p

[Wayne Presley]

What's your PayPal?:p

wayne.verycoolparts@gmail.com :-)

[Erik W. Treves]

Decided to officially make it a driver prior to SEMA

https://youtu.be/aN0fUF7z7oU

[Jeff Kleiner]

Tease :p

Jeff

[John Dol]

What Jeff said!

John

[q4stix]

SEMA is happening. Time to share more details please!!
The two pictures posted by Factory Five from the SEMA thread look amazing!

[EZ$]

Erik, I've been following your build thread, and have been anxiously waiting to see the finished product. The pictures that F5R posted at SEMA show that it has been worth the wait. The car looks fantastic! But then, after following your 289 build thread, I should have known... Spectacular build!

Rick

[Erik W. Treves]

I have a lot of additional pics to post after SEMA...since ibhave no way to post pics from my phone. Sorry guys

[WIS89]

Erik-

You know, you have been acting like that is a stealth coupe... You know that neither the car, nor the airframe on which it is modeled is stealth, right? C'mon man, let's see those pictures!! ;-o)

I love the pics I have seen that FFR has posted, and am really looking forward to seeing more of the car, inside and out! Like your other builds, this one is another awesome job!!

Have a good time at SEMA, and I look forward to seeing more of your Coupe soon!!

Regards,

Steve

[Erik W. Treves]

Got back last night around mid-night.

I always look forward to SEMA, but I always seems to forget how much work it is and how fast the week blows by and how exhausted you are at the end of the week. Having said that ... I WOULD GO EVERY YEAR! The Factory Five booth did not disappoint - It was slammed full the entire week. All the cars had piles and piles of folks around them. The builds are getting more and more over the top... the blank sheet that Factory Five gives you can either go together as a stock build... or over the top .. like the Truck, GTM, All Steel Body (laser straight) Hotrod and the 818R.... those cars were really nice! The Truck has ALREADY got me thinking.....lol . I was proud once again to stand in the booth and talk about these cars!

Anyway... I held off posting completed pics (sorry) - so as a bonus I am providing some video. I have about 3 miles on the car currently... hopefully it will get back shortly and I will charge the AC and install the front splash guards (left off for the show) - and start driving it to work and maybe to the Drag Strip before they close for the season. Really excited to get this out on the road.

Special thanks to Dave Smith (for giving me the opportunity to be a BETA Builder and trusting me to deliver a build on time), Tony Zullo (dude you rock - thanks for the support and ensuring I got what I needed to get to the finish line) , and of course Wayne Presley (the logistical / endless parts support and the off the chain tune he put on the Coyote is second to none.... thanks Brother).

So here are some vids the day we loaded and some pics from the show (Credit : David Hodgkins)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iPOxaxFooo&feature=youtu.be

[Erik W. Treves]

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[Erik W. Treves]

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[Erik W. Treves]

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[Erik W. Treves]

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[Wayne Presley]

As awesome as the car looks in these pictures, the pictures just don't do it justice just how beautiful and meticulously built this car is

[WIS89]

Erik-

The car looks amazing, truly amazing! Thank you for the extra pictures and the video. As always, you exceeded my expectations!

I love all the little details you included; it makes the car extra cool. Nicely done, and really nice touches throughout. I would love to see it in person!

Would you like to share some details about the two Warrant Officers you honored on the rear hatch?

Again, just a terrific job!

Regards,

Steve

[Vette1972]

WOW!! Absolutely a wonderful build. Congrats on a fine car. Love the sound of the pipes.
Thanks, Len

[John Dol]

Erik

Great looking car!!
Another fine Coupe, can't wait to see some video of it ripping up the track.

John

[erlihemi]

Erik,
What a tribute. Personal touch and unique. Inspiring, keep it up man.

[GoDadGo]

So The Big Question Is:

What's Next?

[Erik W. Treves]

oh.... I don't know.... Pro Street Truck? lol

[Russ Thompson]

Erik, congratulations on a fantastic build, guys this is one bad *** coupe!

[Erik W. Treves]

Russ.. coming from the master bench mark coupe builder.... that means a lot... thank you.

[q4stix]

Thanks for sharing the videos and pictures of the completed build! Jaw dropping work! I like the details like "jettison" and "Caution hearing protection required", etc.

What paint did you use for it? Looks like a satin finish?
What digital dash? I don't remember it being mentioned in the build

[Erik W. Treves]

Thanks.... the paint is matte *Spies* . actually the car was a HIGH gloss to a show car smoothness... then they sprayed the matte clear... long expensive process! But it was look I was going for. The gauge is an AIM Strada with street icons.

[stack]

Looks great Erik

stack

[FFinisher]

Pretty humble guy builds a baaaaaaaadddd asssss Car.


Amazing attention to detail and creativity.

Great Job Erik, and always great seeing you!

[Bobby Doug]

An unbelievable build. FFR is lucky to have someone of your talent around to help with the Beta process. Please post some video when you make it to the drag strip.

[wareaglescott]

Looks awesome.
I am assuming your ship number/tail number on the rear quarters has some significance to you. Any special story behind that one?

[Erik W. Treves]

Thanks. Yes... Before I got out of the ARMY I was flying the UH60M which is a full "glass" cockpit.....After retirement I took a job in the gov't designing the new glass cockpit to replace the analog cockpit in the older UH60L's. The requirement was that we had to "replicate" the cockpit from the UH60M but update the "guts".... but it HAD to have the look and feel of the UH60M to reduce training.... so might say I built a "replica" M cockpit....ha... Anyway First Flight of the prototype vehicle was conducted in Jan of this year...and the Tail Number of that aircraft is 92-26242. On Army aircraft we do not display the year ... only the last 5 on the tail... so there ya go. Continuing that theme ... at the Flight School to easily identify the aircraft tail numbers , the school takes the last 2 numbers of that tail number and paints huge white numbers on the tail boom. The numbers are the last 2 numbers of the tail number... this way you can identify YOUR aircraft from a distance. Nothing more frustrating than walking all the way to the aircraft only to find out they parked on a different pad! And since they all look the same .... the white numbers help out!

hope that helps

[GoDadGo]

Erik,

Great Explanation Regarding The Tail Numbers & Thank You For Your Service!

Steve

[Tarmac]

Erik, Gorgeous car. Love it!

Paul

[Erik W. Treves]

Car arrived back at the house this week.... got up early today and cleaned it all up .... I had some muffler inserts that I had not finished making before SEMA... the Mufflers were still kinda loud still... so this morning I added one section of the auger insert.. just one spiral not the all 3. Left the center open.... and WOW.... love the sound now and like 2/3's as quiet! or at least the "bark" is way way down... which translates into way quieter in the cabin going down the road.

I did about 15 miles this trip out to verify the exhaust and make sure I had all the rattles fixed (check!)... I also loaded up the new configuration on the AIM gauge so the Gear Indicator would function correctly (not fixed). I got a little more aggressive with the throttle this time out (50* outside this morning). Not sure what I was thinking... I guess too long with the Black Mamba....the car has no chance of hooking in boost... tried to hold the phone and do what was going to be a short blast.... ya .... that was a "C" in judgement... I need to understand how to apply power to this thing and where the limits are (autocross time) ... and I need to get my GoPro charged up! lesson learned... so here is me being "that guy".... the car does sound pretty good though :)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DLoGm2wYa4&feature=youtu.be

[Wayne Presley]

Was that second or third gear?

[Erik W. Treves]

3rd Gear at rolling in at about 47 MPH.... good night!

"not too shabby" he says.... lol

[Erik W. Treves]

Also... Thought I would pass this one on about the fit in the seat.... so I am 155 (wet) and 5'6". I have the Kirkey High backs, with the correct installation brackets installed as high as I make the seat , on top of seat tracks.... I had to add a 1.5 inch gel cushion to the seat to see over the dash enough to feel comfortable... which then caused me to slide the seat forward another inch.... you tall , large guys should fit EASY!!! and LOW in the car!!!

[Wayne Presley]

3rd Gear at about 47 MPH.... good night!

"not too shabby" he says.... lol

LOL, wait until it hits the fat part of the power curve and does it at 85+ mph....

[SingleMaltWSKY]

What a monster - congrats on the build and the show at SEMA. Great work!!

[Erik W. Treves]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHh1a4DrhQw&feature=youtu.be

[wallace18]

Super Video!

[GoDadGo]

Erik,

I Love Your Latest Creation For Being So Over The Top!
Conversely, I Loved The Black Mamba For Being So Darn Period Correct!
So Glad I Got To See Little Miss Mamba At The Begining Of Last Year's Hot Rod Power Tour!
Please Know That I Can't-Wait To See What You Will Do If You Decide To Build The New Truck!

Steve

[Garry Bopp]

Great interviews, Fred and Erik! Your talent and workmanship shows through on your cars. Awesome cars, both of them!

Garry

[John Dol]

Congrats gents, that's awesome!!

John

[Erik W. Treves]

Why not... out on Vets day.... got another lap around the neighborhood to shake out the car... fixed the gear indicator.. sealed up the cockpit and made some runs on the highway... this time with the GoPro so much safer this way.

anyway... nothing crazy... but proves that this is not just a show car... but drives nice down the road. Still haven't leaned on it too hard in the corners, braking or acceleration... all pulls were no MORE than 1/2 throttle. What a great day!!! thanks to FFR for building this kit.... should be some fun times ahead!!!!!

here is some real in town driving and me even stalling it out...lol .... low on gas I think...



https://youtu.be/lK7c1d7WYKQ&feature=youtu.be

[wallace18]

Sounds fantastic!

[adubbelde]

It's wicked how fast it winds out.

[Erik W. Treves]

Lol... and that's half throttle.... I still have not gotten to the floor!! It does pull hard though... the last bit of the video you can see my neck compress as it starts to pull

[forcefed1]

Great videos Erik!

Wonderful job on the build!

I just got my coupe this past thursday.
If you had to guess how many hours you have in that build what do you think. I know yours is far from a routine build and your far from a run of the mill builder.

[Wayne Presley]

Great videos Erik!

Wonderful job on the build!

I just got my coupe this past thursday.
If you had to guess how many hours you have in that build what do you think. I know yours is far from a routine build and your far from a run of the mill builder.

About 80 hours....

And if you believe that, I have a bridge to sell you

[Erik W. Treves]

lol....I started really working on the car in Jan... finished it Aug.... I really only worked on it on the weekends... and I did an average of 7hours a day on sat and sunday.

The turbo and exhaust took a solid month. Making the cyclic stick work and not look or feel bad took a few weekends. Also staying with the MT82 transmission created challenges as well....Also being a Beta guy I had to wait or make some of the parts (that goes with the deal)... I also had a small issue with the original engine... I you don't color outside the lines I think the hardest part for me was getting the body and nose to line up so it looked right....other than that..it wasn't really that bad...

how many total hours...? I really depends on the person... so not sure anything I say will be accurate... aim for 500hrs...I do the builds in 4-8 months with my method of execution..I don't look at the hours. In the end it isn't a race and if it takes you 1000 hrs to have something you like and is SAFE then spend the time that needs to spent.... don't worry how ling it takes... eventually all the boxes get emptied !! you will have set backs... work on something else and come back to that part.

any lastly... use the forum! the instructions are a great place to start... but the forum is key.

good luck !

[Wayne Presley]

More love for the car

https://www.rcnmag.com/blog/best-replicas-and-low-volume-from-sema-17?utm_source=streamsend&utm_medium=email&utm_content=newsletter&utm_campaign=171113

[Erik W. Treves]

Sweet!

[nkw8181]

Awesome Awesome Awesome!!!!

[Erik W. Treves]

No time wasted... build it fast.... enjoy it even faster! (oil light is on cause the car is NOT running!)

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=76835&d=1510957440

Took it out to the Base and ran it out in the test area... up to 120 --- added another 200 lbs in the passenger seat.. this finally allowed FULL throttle in 3rd gear following a good burnout on the line lock... the car IS a rocket.

Equally impressive is that I can cruise through the school zone in 6th gear @ 25 mph....The alignment is spot on... able to leave my hands off the steering wheel (hands kept close obviously ) for over a 1/4 mile and the car stays in the lane.

I am exhausted from the excitement and feeling of acceleration ... need a bit to let it all sink in...

Stopped by work to show the car off.... could not leave... after 2 hours of people rolling in to look at it ... I had to get home....

removed the 200 lbs from the passenger seat... tried to apply full power in 3rd gear again...... NOPE. ... back to half throttle driving :) And it was low 70's today as well.... thought that might have helped.... nope!

more reports to follow.... but this is the smoothest driving car FFR has put out! The combination of the stiff chassis and the modern drivetrain is second to none... a breeze and a pleasure to drive!!!

[Garry Bopp]

Erik,

Glad you are finally able to enjoy that beautiful ride. How did it feel at 120? Nose getting light or just normal feel? Seems like the Gen 3 and Coyote motor are a great match.

Garry

[Erik W. Treves]

Well... got the first 100 miles in and 1 car show... which was more like a car gathering than anything else...

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=77130&d=1511718686

as all things go, had to address some "Erik design" issues....

normal rattles of things that happen which have all been addressed... mostly where the body was rubbing on places or where I thought the door or rear hatch was ok... either it wasn't or it settled... in any case those are fixed...

2 major issues came up... one was the "aircraft style" gas cap. I couldn't find an interface that would fit to the cap that would neck it down to the filler tube... the cap was designed to sit on a square flat box.... with anything over 1/2 tank of gas in a sharp left turn you could smell gas... meaning a leak... it was leaking at the piece I made (not perfectly flat).... I ended up figuring out a way to use the OEM mustang cap under the aircraft cap... solved 2 problems... no leaks and I can fill at full handle speed and the kick back works great! ----- and no more gas smell.

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=77132&d=1511718687

The other thing that has been an issue is an oil smell at WOT... the turbos as you know in a very low location and I was HOPING that a "slight" slope was all that was needed... seems like that worked fine on the dyno since there were no other forces on the drain...In real life conditions... the car pulls VERY HARD as you can imagine. My drain lines went forward and tee'd in the front of the oil pan... so under "spirited driving" where either forces or oil pressure increased seemed like the drains were not able to keep up... not full smoke show but definitely smelly. .... After some conversation with Wayne and some other research, seems like I needed a oil sump pump to suck/push the oil into the oil pan... I installed it yesterday and it seems to have made a huge difference! I mounted next to the tranny so the oil flows backwards toward the rear of the car and then gets pumped to the front of the oil pan... the hose clamps will get exchanged for a proper hose length... ran out of -10 (of course) but need to find out if the extra part ($$$) was worth the payoff... seems so..... Still have a "slight" oil smell but I am hoping that is either

1. residual oil from in the pipes
or
2. The open breathers sitting at the rear of the engine (I plan or running those out the back next)

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=77131&d=1511718686

All in all seems like things are headed in the right direction and I am slowly expanding the distance from home and gaining confidence in the car's performance.... which is pretty much AWESOME... the power is nuts obviously... but the ease that it is delivered and the drivability of the tune is pretty amazing... the car also drives, handling wise.... extremely well... no complaints at all!! Might have to keep this one a while...lol

[Erik W. Treves]

And here is another one from today... out playing with my buddy.... who was awfully quiet in the car... lol.... thank to him for taking the video... You can hear how quiet the car is without being too quiet.....the LED's head lights work really good (Red trigger on the stick :) )

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=77138&d=1511729774

drive off


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZMHvzs7K1U&feature=youtu.be

[Erik W. Treves]

little blast


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D__sx4_xM4I&feature=youtu.be

[cgundermann]

Soooo Cool! What a beast...sounds ferocious!

[Vette1972]

Wow!

[Bob-STL]

little blast

What a horse! Cool!

[Erik W. Treves]

so it's my "go to work car" now!

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=77313&d=1512086673

[nkw8181]

Did you have any issues with putting the body on with the vertical side panels that you have carpeted installed?


Welp. My wife says I always act cranky at this part of the build.... finishing up.... seems like things have to be done 3 and 4 times since I am finishing some areas... but this car seems to want to fight me a little at each turn...I got a slight cold so my mood was a little off....finally got the gas level to read out on the AIM dash only to notice that now my water temp was reading 256 with engine off and no coolant....no coolant cause my radiator had a crack in the weld...another story... well decide I must have a break in the wire going to ECU so I have to break open the nice wire loom I made.... only to find out that ... all the wires are good...but my gauge is still off..... so Wayne (who picks up the phone for me without any grief :) ) asks me if I have plugged in the OBD II reader? I hadn't of course... and sure enough there is a code for temp sensor out of limits....clear the code... look at that water temp reads ambient!! good think I broke open the engine harness .... rrrrr.... Then I needed to order wheel spacers.... Gen 3's running FFR 18 inch wheels....need at least 1 inch wheel spacers... so.. I figure I will bolt those on... nope... now my lug nuts are too long..... rrrrr....

So you see.... I am not a machine! I am just a man.... I struggle with the same stuff everybody else does.... only thing that helps is the "wayne method" is what I call it.... if you can't solve something right away....do something else! then come back to it....when the solution presents itself.... that and NO SLEEP and worry about EVERYTHING ....lol.....

Even with all this... I did manage to plumb the water lines all the way back to AC/HEAT, route the defrost hose to the dash area, completely wire up the AC/HEAT with AC demand wired into the Ford ECU , installed about 70% of the sound insulation and about 50% of the carpet. Going slow there as I am trying to make the tunnel top removable for service later if needed.... but still make it look like it isn't removable...

I will hopefully get the AC lines run to front of the car this week and that will allow me to seal up the tunnel and finish the carpet. Then about a dozen things that need some final adjustments (new steering wheel with quick release) and we wait for paint.

anyway.... here is the part that is done, done..

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=68088&d=1495412800

[Erik W. Treves]

none at all... the back piece must be removed though!

[Erik W. Treves]

Been driving the car as much as late winter and early spring approaches.... about 400 miles on the clock now... the tune is settling in nicely in the part throttle cruise and idle... had a slight surge tonight... yes... the Blackhawk Coupe now owns the night...Just when I thought the day couldn't get any better.... first night drive in the car , to pick up my daughter at school and enjoy the drive home the two of us! - it was nice ride... she had fun and we laughing after I applied 1/2 throttle boost blasts... funny girl... I had the same reaction the first time I did that in the car too.... great times.... thanks to Factory Five!!! and thanks to my daughter for the memories!! great night!

https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=81822&d=1519783717

[Garry Bopp]

Awesome, Erik! Great memories made on that ride.

Garry

[Erik W. Treves]

Well..... supposed to rain all week.... so out and about today ... turned over 500 miles today!

we're off and running now!

https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=82778&d=1521407285

also ditched the incandescent stock fog lights for matching leds...

https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=82779&d=1521407860

https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=82780&d=1521407860

[Erik W. Treves]

A few things to post today...

Took the Coupe to the local TVR/TAC SCCA event today... funny the place kinda shutdown when I drove in... like SEMA all over again... ..1000 questions....

Anyway... Checked tire pressures, fluids and once over... walked the track.. then we were off...

The first pass ever , the car was pretty loose... I had to go to 400# springs in the rear earlier this year due the amount of squat I get under power when the car hooks... I set the sway bar to full soft and thought that it would be good... nope... Just disconnected one end and boy did that make a difference... holy cow does this thing ride... with the bar I was at 75 secs... without the bar after only 4 runs ever in the car I was done to 68 secs... and getting faster... I quit for the day cause I learned what I wanted to learn on how to drive the car near or at its limits (at times)... and my back started to hurt... so ... good first venture.. need to give it a good inspection now that I beat the crap out of it.

here are some pics.. my GoPro failed me .. sorry ..

https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=83000&d=1521918468

https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=83003&d=1521918715

https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=83002&d=1521918576

in addition to this I got my side windows in.... FOr you all thinking about getting them.... make sure you put the window in BEFORE you mount the door release!!!

the down side of being the Beta guy - the upside is I got to use my new welder !!!

https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=83004&d=1521919015

after the fix was executed

https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=83005&d=1521919016

[wallace18]

I am not surprised the car handled better with the sway bar disconnected. Nice job for the first time out with the car.

[Erik W. Treves]

Thanks.. I was getting faster... the car worked really well...the sound was incredible. The RIVAL tires work great as well.. tons of grip... my roadster never handled this good... I think between the IRS and the super stiff chassis design just all works. Even the turbos with the tune allow excellent control of car... I think I will end up just leaving the one link for the rear bar in the door and leave it with one end connected.

[Erik W. Treves]

Autox yesterday... Cars and Coffee this morning... all I did was wipe the car off in between...first time I brought it to this venue since completion .... very well received!

https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=83023&d=1521993994

and then on the way home... just like that.... over 600 miles!!!

https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=83024&d=1521993995

[Jim1855]

Erik,

I've followed your build, always impressed. An excellent performance, congrats.

Can you explain the handling changes once you disconnected the sway bar?

Wallace18, why would you expect it to handle better?

I'm curious and long ways from completion but trying to learn.

Jim

[wallace18]

Sway bars IMO work best with soft springs. Stiff springs and sway bars are usually overkill. I found this out when I raced in IMSA in 1984-86. JM2CW.

[David Williamson]

Just ordered my side windows. Looks like my door handle will be similar to yours, at least mine is not painted yet so moving them will not be as big a deal.
thanks for the pictures,
David W

[WIS89]

Erik-

I have enjoyed all the updates since completion! I had to chuckle at one of your comments though. You said that at one of the stops, the car was "well received." No offense, but if that car ever gets anything less than an outpouring of admiration and respect, they just don't get cars, or craftsmanship, or attention to detail, and ...! Well, you get the idea.

I hope to see your ride in person someday, but will enjoy your updates in the meantime!

Regards,

Steve

[Erik W. Treves]

geez.. thanks! too kind!

:)

[Erik W. Treves]

Factory Five supplied some Beta Quarter windows...while somewhat functional... the seal at the "B-pillar" looked like it might be hard (for me) to work well... also the installation requires you to screw in the window... the Russ Thompson solution would not work because of the proximity of the roll bar does not lend itself to allow the window to be hinged...The last few weeks I enjoyed the side windows without the quarters installed.. but for the cooler mornings or if it rains... water would be hitting me right in the ear...

what I ended up with, is that use the proximity of the roll bar to my advantage and made a "slide in" quarter window - once all the hardware is installed - NO TOOLS are required to put the window in or take it out.... it simply gets pinched between the body and roll bar and then at the back I made a small clip that rotates around to pinch the back of the window seal. On the "b-pillar" side I added a small 90* aluminum piece and put some bulb seal on it and it seals it all off... not air tight... but good enough... looks pretty good too! I just like that I can customize the air into the cockpit as need - allowing me to run the windows more often without potentially getting heated out of the car on the warmer days.

https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=83265&d=1522373692

https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=83266&d=1522373693

[John Dol]

Looks good Erik!

John

[Erik W. Treves]

Finished up my quarter windows this morning.... it was about 70 degrees out so I decided to see how well they worked at speed.... could I heat and cool the car and regulate the inside temperature of the car in this weather.... short answer is YES... I think this will work fine and the car isn't any louder inside with all the windows in... I guess the added sound proofing worked... I let the GoPro run the whole run...about a 40 minute run around town...cut it down to about 9 minutes... you can see the how well the shifter works and how EASY the car is to drive... for the amount of power it has you would never know it by the manners it shows... well except one spot toward the end :) .. just tried to push past 1/2 throttle in 3rd.. nope... too cool out... anyway.. the car seems to be all figured out and fun to drive... the side windows were a welcome addition to the car. Spring is here folks!!!



https://www.youtube.com/watch?X-kNFi2x10o=15s

[nkw8181]

A few things to post today...

Took the Coupe to the local TVR/TAC SCCA event today... funny the place kinda shutdown when I drove in... like SEMA all over again... ..1000 questions....

Anyway... Checked tire pressures, fluids and once over... walked the track.. then we were off...

The first pass ever , the car was pretty loose... I had to go to 400# springs in the rear earlier this year due the amount of squat I get under power when the car hooks... I set the sway bar to full soft and thought that it would be good... nope... Just disconnected one end and boy did that make a difference... holy cow does this thing ride... with the bar I was at 75 secs... without the bar after only 4 runs ever in the car I was done to 68 secs... and getting faster... I quit for the day cause I learned what I wanted to learn on how to drive the car near or at its limits (at times)... and my back started to hurt... so ... good first venture.. need to give it a good inspection now that I beat the crap out of it.

here are some pics.. my GoPro failed me .. sorry ..

https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=83000&d=1521918468

https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=83003&d=1521918715

https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=83002&d=1521918576

in addition to this I got my side windows in.... FOr you all thinking about getting them.... make sure you put the window in BEFORE you mount the door release!!!

the down side of being the Beta guy - the upside is I got to use my new welder !!!

https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=83004&d=1521919015

after the fix was executed

https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=83005&d=1521919016

Ok boy. I hope I don't have that problem. If so I get to think up something creative. I also want to copy your side windows if I can. Do you have afew more pics of it? I'm sure a lot will become clear when i get the windows in.

Thanks!

[Erik W. Treves]

Got a few requests on this now.. so I did a video of the window and quarter windows... was out in the rain today and they work very well... I have to finish putting the seals around the rest of the door... but the windows work very well- they even hold in the AC and Heat!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?Vj6pKvciQZI=15s

[Vette1972]

Erik,

Just a fantastic car you have built! Thanks for the updates. Enjoy the spring!

Len

[nkw8181]

Thanks that helps alot!

[Matt K.]

Fantastic build Erik. A favor, if you would please:

I don't really care for the look of the FFR Coupe windows, and I'm looking for ways roll-up windows might be integrated into the into the Coupe door. I don't yet have a car on order, but I'd like to start kicking this around on paper. An end-on photo of the door (in the open position) and window assembly would help. Even better would be a yard stick or some other straight-edge laid up against the top (inside) edge of the window and the bottom (inside) edge of the door, showing the in-plane relationship of those two edges, and how they relate to the top (inside) edge of the door "lip" would be fantastic.

Thanks much for your time and consideration

Matt

[Erik W. Treves]

There is somebody on this forum that is doing roll up windows... the door sill is too far into the car for rollup windows as it sits.... you would basically make your own metal door frame and the graft the door skin on to it. A ton of work.... but it is possible see below

https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showthread.php?26613-Roll-up-Windows-for-the-Type-65&highlight=Windows

[Matt K.]

Thanks Erik. I had come across Jonas' build a while ago. A fantastic piece of engineering, but a lot of work, as you mentioned. Trying to determine if there is another viable path. My apologies for the thread jack...

Matt

[Erik W. Treves]

https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=84066&d=1523668005

https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=84067&d=1523668007

Got up today knowing it was gonna be nice and they just opened the track a few weeks ago for the season... so threw my helmet in the car and went to work....worked all day and left at 515pm for the track... turned on the AC, go to the track, paid "the man", got out and took all the secondary missiles out of the car, did a quick inspection (still in my nice work clothes.. did take the tie off). Everybody was like... who the hell is this guy...lol...they called lanes OPEN... got in , turned the AC off... did my burn out... ripped through the traps at 100MPH and 7.56 without really even trying... had to shift 3 times... I think there is too much gear in the car... but the prepped track allowed all the power to be used!!! I was nervous cause I was waiting for the tires to let loose...and they never did... I think for sure I could have been more aggressive for sure...next time... as it was, grabbed my time slip, grabbed all my stuff, turned on the AC some tunes and drove home... never once touched or prepped the car!! "Not too Shabby"!! The tune is perfect and doesn't miss a beat... thanks to Wayne... Thanks to FFR... they built a Swiss Army Knife... Just about to break 1000 miles... drive it work, drive to the autox, drive it to the drag strip...meh.... sure all in a days work...

here some pics a short video... I need to find a better place for the camera... it is picking up too much vibration out of the frame... you can see the button down work shirt... was gonna leave the tie on and flip it over the shoulder a la snoopy style... lol


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpE9EOYD6IQ

https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=84069&d=1523668179

[cgundermann]

Simply awesome!

Chris

[Vette1972]

WOW!!!Really sharp run. Thanks!

[Erik W. Treves]

And today.... this happened on the way to work....

1000 miles...

https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=84367&d=1524178298

Closer to 1100 miles now after driving around and back home from work....

Nothing major to report overall:

Changes made thus far:

1. oil sump pump added for turbos
2. oil pressure regulator added for turbos
3. Serviced AC
4. Added Side windows
5. Adjusted Brake switch
6. Increased rear spring rate by 50# and added 1.5 inch rear wheel spacers
7. Disconnected rear sway bar
8. Replacing stock pads with Yellow Stuff pads (tomorrow)
9. Adjusted idle tune
10. Re-threaded shifter handle
11. Added Bluetoothe speaker
12. Added 1 inch cushion to driver's seat so I can see over the dash/nose

Honestly... that's it... Fuel and smiles after that...

[Bob-STL]

(still in my nice work clothes.. did take the tie off). Everybody was like... who the hell is this guy...lol...they called lanes OPEN... got in , turned the AC off... did my burn out... ripped through the traps at 100MPH and 7.56 without really even trying... had to shift 3 times... I think there is too much gear in the car... but the prepped track allowed all the power to be used!!! I was nervous cause I was waiting for the tires to let loose...and they never did... I think for sure I could have been more aggressive for sure...next time... as it was, grabbed my time slip, grabbed all my stuff, turned on the AC some tunes and drove home... never once touched or prepped the car!!

[/IMG]

Nice!!!

Keep the videos coming. :cool:

[Jazzman]

Simply Stunning, Erik! The button down shirt at the drag strip is a nice touch!! :cool: Any chance that you are bringing it to Huntington Beach?

[flight_83]

Maybe I missed it but what headlights did you use?

[Erik W. Treves]

Oracle Lighting LED Headlight Dual Projector 7" Black Pair Jeep Wrangler JK 2007-2018 :)

[flight_83]

Oracle Lighting LED Headlight Dual Projector 7" Black Pair Jeep Wrangler JK 2007-2018 :)

Best lights I’ve seen, thank you. I’m going to use those on mine. 👍🏻

[j65mustang]

Which rear view mirror did you use? Thanks

[Erik W. Treves]

It's just a 15 inch roll bar mirror... I got from summit...good visibility... a little hard to get use to since it's a curved mirror... but it sure gets around the blind spots.

[j65mustang]

Thanks Erik, didn’t want to run the factory rear view mirror and driving the car around now with only side mirrors visibility isn’t the best haha. Thanks for the info.

[Erik W. Treves]

Oh right... I even changed my pass mirror to a convex mirror as well! Having that one and the rear view that way makes all the difference for me... the drivers side is a normal mirror and works well

[mpiersd]

Love seeing this build. Lots of inspiration and tips for my future build.

[Erik W. Treves]

made the cover... pretty cool

https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=94538&d=1538439771

[cgundermann]

Awesome!

Chris

[jdavis500]

Nice work! One for the scrapbook.

[Garry Bopp]

Congrats, Erik! Well deserved honor!

Garry