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wallace18
09-28-2015, 03:53 PM
I am building an electric 818SE for a customer. I need an accurate measurement from the face of the flywheel ( where the Pressure Plate bolts to) to the engine flange that bolts to the transmission. I do not have an engine or flywheel so I am asking a member to help me out. Any help is very appreciated. Thanks. TW

ehansen007
09-28-2015, 04:30 PM
EV West.
EV West.
EV West.

:)

wallace18
09-28-2015, 05:45 PM
EV West.
EV West.
EV West.

:)
I guess they did not keep that measurement from your build for some reason. :confused: They are the ones that are needing it.

Bob_n_Cincy
09-28-2015, 08:06 PM
I just posted this for NinjaNick
46065

Tom
according to the adaptor drawing I have.
engine face to flywheel face is 0.127 (about an 1/8")
Bob

46072

ninjanick
09-28-2015, 11:06 PM
Wallace18,
Sounds like we are in the same predicament. I purchased a coupler and transmission adapter from EVWest for a WARP11HV motor. I'm currently experiencing interference between the Pressure Plate and the Pivot Arm. You can see where I start to have problems around post 97 (http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showthread.php?16584-Ninjanick-s-818S-Build-Thread/page3). What setup are you building for your customer? Is it a DC setup? I'm curious as I don't know anyone with a DC 818 yet. I thought I'd be the only one with so many EV's moving to AC. I'd love to here more specifics of your build!
That being said looks like you have a push style transmission whereas I have a pull style. Not sure if that makes a difference in the alignment of things.

Bob,
From your drawing it looks like engine face to flywheel face of 1/8" jives with my measurements. I'm getting 0.2" to the starter teeth and probably 0.4" to the flywheel face. I received an e-mail from Michael (EVWest) and he wants me to measure the distance between the mounting surface of the flywheel and the bell housing surface with flywheel installed sans motor. To gauge this measurement correctly, it looks like there is a small gap between the end of the transmission shaft and the pilot bearing. I was going to measure from the end of the transmission shaft to the face of the bell housing to take this measurement (maybe add 0.010"?). Michael said they would machine the adapter plate to allow the flywheel to sit farther down on the motor shaft with this measurement.

wallace18
09-29-2015, 05:05 AM
Wallace18,
Sounds like we are in the same predicament. I purchased a coupler and transmission adapter from EVWest for a WARP11HV motor. I'm currently experiencing interference between the Pressure Plate and the Pivot Arm. You can see where I start to have problems around post 97 (http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showthread.php?16584-Ninjanick-s-818S-Build-Thread/page3). What setup are you building for your customer? Is it a DC setup? I'm curious as I don't know anyone with a DC 818 yet. I thought I'd be the only one with so many EV's moving to AC. I'd love to here more specifics of your build!
That being said looks like you have a push style transmission whereas I have a pull style. Not sure if that makes a difference in the alignment of things.

Bob,
From your drawing it looks like engine face to flywheel face of 1/8" jives with my measurements. I'm getting 0.2" to the starter teeth and probably 0.4" to the flywheel face. I received an e-mail from Michael (EVWest) and he wants me to measure the distance between the mounting surface of the flywheel and the bell housing surface with flywheel installed sans motor. To gauge this measurement correctly, it looks like there is a small gap between the end of the transmission shaft and the pilot bearing. I was going to measure from the end of the transmission shaft to the face of the bell housing to take this measurement (maybe add 0.010"?). Michael said they would machine the adapter plate to allow the flywheel to sit farther down on the motor shaft with this measurement.


I can't answer any EV questions yet as my customer is handling all that part of the build with EV west. Since from what I gather the Subaru engine/flywheel dimensions are all alike. That is why you can switch out a 4 cylinder for a 6 and swap a legacy trans for a Impreza. It seems to me the difference would be the clutch setup. But the flange to flywheel on the engine side should always be the same. I could be wrong but I doubt it.
Did getting the correct T/O bearing fix your problem?

wallace18
09-29-2015, 08:25 AM
I just posted this for NinjaNick
46065

Tom
according to the adaptor drawing I have.
engine face to flywheel face is 0.127 (about an 1/8")
Bob

46072

Bob I think this is exactly what we need. Thank you!

ninjanick
09-29-2015, 05:12 PM
I can't answer any EV questions yet as my customer is handling all that part of the build with EV west. Since from what I gather the Subaru engine/flywheel dimensions are all alike. That is why you can switch out a 4 cylinder for a 6 and swap a legacy trans for a Impreza. It seems to me the difference would be the clutch setup. But the flange to flywheel on the engine side should always be the same. I could be wrong but I doubt it.
Did getting the correct T/O bearing fix your problem?

It did fix one problem (not having the right throw out bearing), but I still get interference. I'm going to measure the end of the input shaft to the transmission face to see if the numbers jive. I'll forward to EVWest tonight.

ehansen007
09-30-2015, 10:31 AM
LOL, sorry guys. I'll make fun of Michael when I talk to him next for not writing it down. :) Most likely he forgot because he had a cup of coffee in his hand.....and that's pretty much it. :) He's a genius otherwise.