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    You Need to Know About Cam and Distributor Metals

    I don’t write many articles anymore. After decades in this trade, I only sit down to write when I see engine builders walking straight toward a mistake that could cost them real money. The last time I did this, it was about early Quick Fuel carburetor flaws that could be fixed—if you knew what to look for.
    This time, the problem is far more expensive: roller cam core materials and distributor gear compatibility. If you have a short attention span, this isn’t the article for you.

    A Little Background
    I’ve been building street-performance engines since the sixties—sometimes for a living, always for the love of it. Last year, a friend who builds high‑end show cars asked me to help with three engines: two 351 Windsors and one 5.0 SBF roller.
    Cam selection is always the most critical decision. I look at everything: vehicle weight, rear‑end ratio, transmission gearing, RPM range, compression, and the overall combination. A good engine is never about one magic part; it’s about parts that work together.

    What Cams Are Made Of Today
    For years I used Comp Cams and always degreed them. Then I found one that was five degrees off. They replaced it, but that pushed me to look at other brands.
    After the flat‑tappet failures around the 2008 recession, roller cams became the only realistic option. Early rollers were billet steel—expensive and aimed at racing. But once rollers became mainstream, companies started using cast‑iron roller cores, which are cheaper to manufacture and more profitable.
    I shifted to Howards because they offered more off‑the‑shelf options. Lunati was solid too—until Edelbrock (owner of Comp Cams) bought them and shut them down.

    Distributor Gear Materials: Where Things Go Wrong
    Everyone knows cam and distributor gear compatibility matters. Comp Cams even has a video tapping different cores and listening to the sound differences. Cute idea, but not exactly scientific—especially when companies invent new terms like “Aussie Tempered.”
    Here’s the real problem:
    When you buy a cam, the required distributor gear material is almost never listed. Not on the cam card, not on the website.
    I usually have to call tech support. And after what I’ve seen, I can tell you: that information is not always reliable.
    Distributor gears used to cost $15. Now they’re $50–$110. And if you mismatch materials, you can destroy a cam in minutes.
    The basic rule still applies:
    Cast‑iron cam → cast‑iron gear
    Steel cam → steel gear
    But now we have “special hardened,” “melonized,” “Aussie tempered,” and other marketing terms muddying the water.

    The Real‑World Problem
    When buying a distributor, try finding the gear material in the listing. Good luck.
    For our three engines, we used two Howards cams and kept one good Comp Cams roller. I’ve used the Pertronix III distributor before and liked it—multi‑spark through the entire RPM range, built‑in rev limiter, no external box. So I called Pertronix tech support and asked about the gear material.
    They told me their gear uses a special Rockwell hardness compatible with any cam.
    That turned out to be disastrously wrong.
    We finished the first engine—a pristine ’69 Mach 1 the owner has had for 50 years. Fired it up, broke it in, everything sounded great. After about 40 minutes, we pulled the distributor to tweak the vacuum advance.
    The “special Rockwell hardness” gear had eaten the cam gear.
    We had to pull the engine, buy a new Comp cam with the “Aussie” core, and hope it would live with the Pertronix gear. I’ve run that combo in my Cobra for 13 years, so we took the chance. Still, that mistake cost about $500 in parts alone.
    Pertronix tech support had nothing useful to say beyond “that’s what our engineer told us.”

    And Then It Gets Even Better
    A month later, I was modifying my own Pertronix distributor and checked the gear again—still fine. I also have a new Lunati cast‑iron cam on the shelf and was considering using it.
    That’s when I discovered Pertronix doesn’t even sell a cast‑iron gear for their distributors.
    Then I measured the shaft: .4645"
    Standard Ford size is .467"
    Pertronix lists their gears as .467" ID.
    I called tech support again. They measured a shaft in their office—also .4645". Their explanation?
    They subcontract the shafts, and “that’s just what happened.”
    So now the question is:
    Do I have to buy a different brand of distributor just to run a cast‑iron cam?
    Or am I locked out of using cast‑iron cams entirely?
    This is the kind of nonsense engine builders are dealing with today.

    Final Thought
    If you’re building engines in this “new world,” be careful. Don’t assume the cam card tells you everything. Don’t assume the distributor manufacturer knows what their own gear is compatible with. And absolutely don’t assume “special hardness” means “universal.”
    Your camshaft is too expensive to gamble with.

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    An excel read, and true to the information I have found. My current engine is using a TwickFlow cam, the cam card said it was a billet steel cam and to use a steel gear. I called MSD to find a steel gear for the MSD distributor I was going to use, the tech said, "no one makes billet steel cams you should use a cast iron gear or bronze". Well I told him he was wrong and I wanted a steel gear, engine still runs like a top. Now to my next build, going to use a Comp cam, (??) hope thats not a mistake, again reach out for advice and I get "all cams & distributors need to use melonized gears, which is the same as steel", WTF. So I hope the Holley distributor has the correct material, as they don't know, the answer is-----melonized gears, are the same as steel. To hedge my options, I drilled a small hole in the oil galley plug to shoot oil onto the cam & distributor gear.
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    And, then there is the bronze gear debate. Which may be like what is the best oil to use?
    Ralph

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    Quote Originally Posted by rich grsc View Post
    An excel read, and true to the information I have found. My current engine is using a TwickFlow cam, the cam card said it was a billet steel cam and to use a steel gear. I called MSD to find a steel gear for the MSD distributor I was going to use, the tech said, "no one makes billet steel cams you should use a cast iron gear or bronze". Well I told him he was wrong and I wanted a steel gear, engine still runs like a top. Now to my next build, going to use a Comp cam, (??) hope thats not a mistake, again reach out for advice and I get "all cams & distributors need to use melonized gears, which is the same as steel", WTF. So I hope the Holley distributor has the correct material, as they don't know, the answer is-----melonized gears, are the same as steel. To hedge my options, I drilled a small hole in the oil galley plug to shoot oil onto the cam & distributor gear.
    Rich
    My Holley Hyper Spark distributor came with an "iron" gear, which is cast. On my Smeding engine I needed steel, so I did buy a Melonized gear that I will be swapping out. I agree it is a bit of a crapshoot.
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    See, that's the total PROBLEM, tech support doesn't know what they are talking about. You say your distributor came with an "iron" gear, but tech told me it's shipped with a Melonized gear, so who do you believe, who is correct????
    Mrk III, 331 stroker, Borla stack injection, T5, 3:55 IRS, Power steering and brakes. Kleiner body & paint

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    Quote Originally Posted by rich grsc View Post
    See, that's the total PROBLEM, tech support doesn't know what they are talking about. You say your distributor came with an "iron" gear, but tech told me it's shipped with a Melonized gear, so who do you believe, who is correct????
    Smeding told me I needed to change it because its not steel. They ok'ed a melonized gear, so that is what I bought. I figured I wouldn't screw around for a $100.
    FFR Cobra MK3 F5R100 5447 donor kit - picked up Jan 4, 2025 started build March 28, 2025
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    Quote Originally Posted by tnt_motorsports View Post
    Smeding told me I needed to change it because its not steel. They ok'ed a melonized gear, so that is what I bought. I figured I wouldn't screw around for a $100.
    100% agree, if you know what the cam gear is, match the distributor gear with the same material. or with what your builder tells you
    Mrk III, 331 stroker, Borla stack injection, T5, 3:55 IRS, Power steering and brakes. Kleiner body & paint

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    There are a lot of " Engine Assemblers" out there today that don't know and don't care. There are fewer and fewer engine builders around anymore. This is for another topic. After 40 plus years of doing this I trust no one but my self. However, what I do when dealing with schetchy parts and info is pull the distributor after the first few minutes of start up and keep checking it until you are sure. This way you catch it before it's to late.

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