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  1. 03-22-2023, 12:47 PM #1
    rsthenry
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    Power steering problems

    Hello - I am a newbie here , Can someone help with some problems I am having Please ? So its a power rack steering and was never finished ! What to do at this point , I have all components . Some plugs missing , Anywhere to get them ? Is it time to scrap it and start over ? I am really lost and need direction - Would apricate any advise Thank you in advance !!!!
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  2. 03-22-2023, 01:38 PM #2
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    Maybe post some pictures? The standard power setup setup now is a manual rack with an electric motor assist in the steering shaft between the firewall and steering rack. That doesn't sound like what you're describing.
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  3. 03-22-2023, 06:02 PM #3
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    Quote Originally Posted by edwardb View Post
    Maybe post some pictures? The standard power setup setup now is a manual rack with an electric motor assist in the steering shaft between the firewall and steering rack. That doesn't sound like what you're describing.
    Yes -that is exactly what I have - I need some wiring help !!
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  4. 03-22-2023, 06:05 PM #4
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    Yes -I have the manual rack with electrical motor assist -Anybody know if I could remove the power assist motor and go to a manual set up ?? What would I need ?
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  5. 03-22-2023, 06:13 PM #5
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    Can I remove the electric power assist for rack and pinion steering ? just have manual steering ? what would I need ? 33 Ford Hot Rod Having trouble finding parts for power assist steering .I have the major parts (pump, Mod, Etc.) Missing Plugs and running down the electrical wiring Thanks in advance
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  6. 03-22-2023, 08:42 PM #6
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    Quote Originally Posted by rsthenry View Post
    Yes -I have the manual rack with electrical motor assist -Anybody know if I could remove the power assist motor and go to a manual set up ?? What would I need ?
    Sure. The power steering setup is optional. Just takes slightly different steering shaft pieces that bypass the area where the electric power assist module is located. Do you have the build manual? It shows both manual and power.

    Quote Originally Posted by rsthenry View Post
    Can I remove the electric power assist for rack and pinion steering ? just have manual steering ? what would I need ? 33 Ford Hot Rod Having trouble finding parts for power assist steering .I have the major parts (pump, Mod, Etc.) Missing Plugs and running down the electrical wiring Thanks in advance
    I'm not aware of a power steering rack for the Hot Rod or Truck (same one). Don't believe going hydraulic with an engine driven pump, etc. is an option. If you have the Factory Five electric power steering option I assume it's this one? https://www.factoryfive.com/wp-conte...r-steering.pdf. From their parts page? https://www.factoryfiveparts.com/340...teering-parts/. That's the system I installed in my truck build. It's pretty straightforward. I don't know anything about what brand it is, what separate parts are available, etc. Including the wiring harness. If this is what you have, Factory Five should be able to tell you if replacement parts are available.
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  7. 03-23-2023, 07:04 AM #7
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    Got it thanks ! Can not get any answers From FFR -What do you think about going totally manual ? Bad idea ?
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  8. 03-23-2023, 07:26 AM #8
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    I'm the wrong person to ask. I'm a huge power steering fan. Changes how the car drives and would do whatever it takes to get it working. I've done multiple builds and only one didn't have power steering at the start. It was retrofitted.
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  9. 03-23-2023, 07:29 AM #9
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    Can you post a few pics of what you have? Do you need some help on how to post pics?
    Without the electric assist steering takes some effort, I’d recommend you use it.

    There are some pics of the ElectraSteer that came from FFR at post 110.
    I mounted the motor on the firewall, didn’t want the electric motor hanging down below the engine oil pan.
    The hinge was replaced with a solid mount after I got the correct angle figured out.
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  10. 03-23-2023, 11:41 AM #10
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    If you don't have a manual, you can buy/download one from FFR. Or DM me with your email and I can send you the Gen1 and Gen2 ones I have (wont be latest, but also unlikely to matter much)

    Curious, whats your chassis number? Gen1 or Gen2?

    I also see some power steering instruction downloads on https://www.factoryfiveparts.com/instructions/

    P.S. I don't have power steering, and I use the car just fine. But I'd try it if I had the money *shrug*
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  11. 03-23-2023, 06:31 PM #11
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    I added electric assist after driving the car for several thousand miles. Really helps in tight situations and also being 72 helps my aching arms!
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