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Final Install of Driver's Cockpit outer panels and odds-n-ends
Hey Y'All,
I wanted to install all of the rest of the cockpit panels (except the large rear panel), but ran into typical planning issues: I am running out of my favorite multi-grip rivets and I haven't ordered my soundproofing / thermal insulation mats yet...
Here's how far I got: Driver's outer panels. :rolleyes: Anyway, here's some pictures Attachment 206295 Attachment 206296 Attachment 206297
Not wanting to just leave it at that, I decided to finish the installation of my charcoal canister and breathers. I like how it turned out ;)
view looking toward front of vehicle Attachment 206298, view from above ... looking down Attachment 206299
Next, I installed my rear brake hardline and brackets to the main frame tubes. I used some black gasket maker to keep the corrosion at bay underneath the brackets (and to hold into place if I need to adjust the lines a little). I had a picture, but the image quality was bad...
Next, I wanted to install the rest of the Driver's footbox panels, then realized that some builder's wished they had added the Cool-Mat before inastalling the inner panels. I checked and decided to heed the advice. Not much room to get insulating mats in there Attachment 206300 so I'll pre-fit the insulation before final installing that panel ... which means I'll be waiting on the next Summit delivery this week :p
Until next time, Happy Building!
Craig C
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Final Install of Passenger Cockpit outer panels and odds-n-ends
Hey Y'All,
Not too much progress this past weekend due to running other errands and taking care of Fall chores, but I did manage to "final" install the Passenger-side outer cockpit panels. While I was at it, I "semi-final" installed the fuel hardlines (I still need to install the decorative anti-scuff shim between the fuel lines and the Passenger-side floor panel).
Here's the pictures: Attachment 206539 Attachment 206540 Attachment 206541
I also painted 250 of my favorite-style rivets rattle-can chassis-black since Summit only has bare metal choices left :( No pictures 'cause that's kinda boring, but I just poked holes in some spare cardboard in a matrix pattern and painted top and bottom. Some of you may be thinking that this was a waste of time...perhaps, but one of my goals is to have Angelina look just as dazzling without her pretty red dress on :p
Next time, I think I'll try some wire harness customization...:cool:
Happy Building!
Craig C
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Finally catching back up to pg. 167 of the Build Manual
Hey Y'All,
I finally got the details done to "final" install the Driver's side front footbox panel. It meant I needed to pre-fit some thermal padding and confirm the rear brake hardlines were properly fastened (snugged up w/anti-seize on the junction threads and with threadlocker for the mounting pads).
Here's pre-assembly of the top and bottom inner footbox panels Attachment 207131
Then pre-fitment of the thermal pad, including punched rivet hole relief, pre-bent and pre-indented for no interference with the standard AccPed bracket Attachment 207132 then attached with the self-adhesive backing Attachment 207133
Here's the result Attachment 207134 and "road gravel" view of rear brake hardline bulkhead connection Attachment 207135
I'm happy with the results :)
Craig C
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Upper (forward) trunk floor panel installed
Hey Y'All,
I managed to tighten my fuel lines at the junction of the flex lines running to/from the tank and filter to the hardlines running up the Passenger side, and then loctited the hardline mounting blocks to the frame for the final install under the car. This meant that I was (for the most part) finished with the details under the trunk area (until I get the tank mounted...
This meant that I could "button up" the forward trunk floor panel finally :)
Here's some pictures: Top side Attachment 207571 and under side Attachment 207572 Attachment 207573 Attachment 207574
I'm happy with the results :cool:
Next time I'm under there, I'll be installing the drop trunk box, the lower rear trunk panel, and the fuel tank...
Happy Building!
Craig C
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Finishing up the Trans tunnel thermal pads/mats
Hey Y'All,
I got the Passenger side in-tunnel thermal pad installed and finished up the edges with the seam tape. Here's some pictures of the progress: Attachment 207754 and here's a powertrain perspective of the completed job Attachment 207755
Next post: finally catching up to p.169 of the Build Manual...
Craig C
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Catching up to p.169 of the Build Manual
Hey Y'All,
I finally got caught up to p.169 of the Build Manual. I decided to use "normal" head 1/8" rivets along the top edge of the trans tunnel so that I'd have adequate room for the trans top panel with all the dimensional stack-up of pads/carpet (or upholstery), etc. The remaining rivets were all "large" head. Here's the pictures: Attachment 207756 Attachment 207757 Attachment 207758
Until next post, Happy Building!
Craig C
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Trunk Panel final installation
Hey Y'All,
After getting the trans tunnel panels thermally insulated, my next task was to install the remaining trunk panels for the final time :cool:
The order that I chose worked for me, but to be honest, I probably should've installed the side panels later in the sequence. Anyway, here's the inner side panels Attachment 207906 Attachment 207907
Then, I checked the rear frame rails for straightness and decided to add some shims to the rear trunk frame tubes before I installed the rear trunk panel (the reasoning will be more clear in the upcoming pictures) Attachment 207908 then installed the rear trunk panel and my "extension" bracket Attachment 207909
Finally, I installed the "RT" drop trunk Attachment 207910
Here's why I spent time with the shims: ("extension" bracket is nice and straight!) Attachment 207911
Next post: final installation of the fuel tank :cool:
Craig C
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Catching up to p. 193 of the Build Manual (installing the fuel tank)
Hey Y'All,
I finally installed the fuel tank today, and it feels like real progress has been made this past week :)
Minor setbacks or concerns just present problems that get to be solved -- one by one :cool:
I'm happy that I spent some thought up-front about the rear harness and fuel line routing, because I suspected that I'd need to connect things before the tank was in the final position. My solution was to simply have more length than needed and simply loop the wires/lines so that they could be connected first, then raise the tank without messing up any geometry or layout. Worked out well...
Here's some detail pictures that might help others (sending unit harness loop w/MagDaddy zip-tie mount) Attachment 207912
(fuel pump harness and flex lines w/MagDaddy zip-tie mounts) Attachment 207913 Attachment 207914 Attachment 207915
Next project: finish plumbing the brake system and bleed it...
Until next time -- Happy Building!
Craig C
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I thought I was going to work on the brake system...
Hey Y'All,
I hope you had a Merry Christmas! I spent mine with my BroBro and it was a nice visit :)
When I got back to my garage, I really wanted to finish my brake system, but got derailed after I noticed corrosion in my Earl's flexline! Surprised me too :eek: Attachment 208264 Sure enough, the fitting itself is only zinc-coated steel...although I'm not exactly sure how it got corroded since it has never seen fluid...fortunately, the same part number was in-stock at Summit...now just have to wait for it.
In the mean-time, there's always some little job that needs doing, so I refocused: first up, install the powder-coated "bridge" bracket that keeps the main harness out-of-the-way of the steering shaft Attachment 208265
then, pre-assembled my remote reservoir bracket Attachment 208266
next, affixing more thermal pad in the front of the driver's footbox Attachment 208267
lastly, installing the unused front footbox access panel Attachment 208268
Next post: more panel installations for the trunk...
Happy Building!
Craig C
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Trunk outside side panel installation
Hey Y'All,
I completed the installation of my outside trunk panels. Recall that I modified them to permit easier body installation later (I hope) and to permit more installation flexibility for the rear wheelwell splash panels. In doing so, the installation required rivets and riv-nuts...
But 1st, I prepped for shims to keep the panels flat: DS Attachment 208587 PS Attachment 208588
Here's the layout right before final installation: DS Attachment 208589 PS Attachment 208590
Installed! Attachment 208591 Attachment 208592
Happy Building!
Craig C
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Footbox brake line installation
Hey Y'All,
I got my replacement Earl's "flex-line" for my front brakes that I wanted to install in the footbox :)
Recall that I chose to use "flex-line" as a way to possibly allow for an easier replacement of the master cylinders (if that were ever needed :rolleyes:), and frankly to avoid the drama of making more stainless hardlines in that tight area. I'm done with all that stress for a while!
So, here's the layout: bulkhead Attachment 208599 and a view at the master cylinders Attachment 208600
My previous planning for adding a grommet for the rear flex-line (as it passed thru the accped bracket) seemed to be all for naught, as I struggled to get my hands in the tight spaces. I remembered that windshield installers simply use a cord in the weatherstrip to pull it into place, so I tried it for my grommet and it worked great! Here's a picture Attachment 208601
Then, I used some slippery "stuff" meant for installing electrical lines in homes for the rubber reservoir lines as they passed thru my special "3-hole" grommet and that worked fine, too Attachment 208602 Attachment 208603
Chewy was right! I designed my remote reservoir bracket such that I must get the panels riveted before the final installation -- otherwise there's no room to get the tools in there...so, that means I must wait to install the remote reservoirs, and instead consider all the other jobs that must be done before adding the top cover for the footbox. With that top panel installed, I just don't have the room for my hands, and would like to avoid the frustrations :p
So...since I've recently read about throttle linkage issues, I figured I'd try a cardboard mockup, and I'm glad I did! My planned layout just doesn't leave enough room for the actuator arms inside the footbox at WOT. I'll have to figure this out some more... Attachment 208604
It's just as well...getting hit with winter weather now, and I'll need some time to think :confused:
Until next time, Happy Building!
Craig C
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Throttle linkage experimentation in the footbox
Hey Y'All,
I've been "noodling" over the footbox throttle linkage and I just didn't like how the RT "tribute" accel pedal geometry was working for me, so I decided to figure it out as best as I could. I measured the layout and the moving parts in a "free-form" diagram, and then put it on paper. Then used some geometry and Trigonometry to come up with a plan to address the many constraints in the way (limited space for full articulation, pedal orientation at idle and full-travel, and linkage geometry that might impact pedal sensitivity). Here's my thinking pad Attachment 209001
Then I cut out some aluminum stock for an experimental accelerator pedal lever arm to try out my ideas Attachment 209003
Here's some pictures for mockup: Attachment 209002 Attachment 209004 Attachment 209005
I can understand why RT designed his the way he did -- lots of compromises to adapt to. I'm still on-the-fence about my new linkage geometry at off-idle position -- I don't want it to be too sensitive at initial AccPed tip-in, but it's nice to know I have an alternative that will bolt-in when that time comes...
I'm hoping that my measurements are reasonable because the real critical factor is the space at the top of the footbox for the Forte' lever arm. I suppose I could make a different set, but they are very nice. I'll keep them for now :)
Happy Building!
Craig C
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Ibele "tribute" center console mockup
Hey Y'All,
One of the other customizations I had planned for my build was to emulate John Ibele's center console design -- I really liked it and was impressed by his work :cool:
I measured and cut out some construction paper today to mock one into place to visualize and think about it some more...
Attachment 209024 Attachment 209025 Attachment 209026
Granted, it's very rough: sharp creases (whereas I liked the curved side edges of John's design), angles aren't perfect, mounting flanges aren't thought thru...but I like it so far.
My intention is to design a sprung access door with a keyed push-button latch, and have enough room for garage door opener, ear plugs...maybe a power plug...and to hide some of my chassis harnesses :rolleyes:)
Until next time...Happy Building!
Craig C
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More Throttle linkage mock-up and front harness planning
Hey Y'All,
While my cardboard model of the throttle linkage allowed me to visualize the footbox panel clearance and layout, I wanted an extra confirmation of my work, so I cut/drilled some flat stock and some 3/8" rod to have a better representation of the finished layout.
I confirmed that the cardboard model was pretty accurate and I confirmed that the throttle pivot rod at my preferred mounting location would not get in the way of the steering shaft :)
Here's a picture Attachment 209393
Next, I needed to replace some rivets with riv-nuts (or nut-serts) where I needed front wiring harness zip-tie clamps. Here is the result Attachment 209394
Then, with the clamps in place Attachment 209395
This is just the initial layout. I still would like to re-do some of the splices because they're not where I'd prefer them...and I'll want to wrap with my preferred split loom before the final install :cool:
Until next time, Happy Building!
Craig C
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More Footbox panel mods for the Forte' Throttle linkage
Hey Y'All,
My last post left off with me just showing you my spherical bearing support block mocked into place for the Forte' throttle linkage as it passes thru the Driver's side inner footbox panel.
This post shows what I did to install it :)
First up, grinding a point in some spare 3/8" rod so that I could accurately locate the center punch hole location on the panel Attachment 209626
Next, I carefully drilled the hole and tried not to have the bit "walk" on me. It actually required me to file a little to re-center the hole. Then I'd enlarge the hole and re-center as needed. At one point, I actually put a long 3/8" drill bit in the mounts just to see where I needed to fit the linkage better for a good fit. Here's the result -- this perspective looked the worst Attachment 209627
Then I wrapped some sand paper around my test rod and rotated it to size the hole properly. Next up, locating the spherical bearing support block holes Attachment 209628 and drilled Attachment 209629
Lastly a test fit. Inside view Attachment 209630 Engine compartment view Attachment 209631
I'm happy with the result :)
Next post: adding thermal padding...
Craig C
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Adventures in applying Cool Tec pads
Hey Y'All,
For this update, I'll reveal my mistakes in applying stick-on thermal pads...so you don't have to :p
First up, measure out and mark for the cut lines Attachment 209975...then realize that your template is upside-down Attachment 209976
Then stand back and admire your work Attachment 209977
Then...start to second-guess affixing heavy pads to an inverted surface and double check with the manufacturer, who says that's not recommended. Then learn that the adhesive can be regenerated with heat, and put the panel in the oven to try to remove it. Here's the raw result after a lot of effort Attachment 209978. It actually cleaned up fine with the right technique and solvents...and the powder-coated surface didn't have a mark on it :) Attachment 209979
After that debacle, try again with lighter-weight fiberglass-backed pads Attachment 209980
Don't fret about the mistakes...most can be done-over...it just takes a lot of effort that would be better spent elsewhere :)
Craig C
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More Thermo-Tec pad installation inside the Driver's Footbox
Hey Y'All,
Yet more Driver's footbox Thermo-Tec pad installation.:( It's really tedious, unforgiving work...but the completed result will be worth it.
Here's the top-part of the inner panel Attachment 209981
Then the top outer part of the front panel Attachment 209982
And a couple of views of the inner panel thermal pad installation Attachment 209983 Attachment 209984
Here's the reason to put the effort into this right now (and a little motivation for me to finish the job).Attachment 209985 Here, I trimmed the remote hydraulic reservoir rubber hoses so that when the Driver's footbox top panel is finally riveted and bonded into place, I can get my hydraulic system plumbed and bled.:cool:
Until next time, Happy Building!
Craig C
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More miscellaneous pattern making
Hey Y'All,
Not much obvious progress on my build this past week...:rolleyes:
I'm trying to stay busy by making cardboard patterns of the thermal padding that I've been installing. These will be used later (as needed) and get me to practice this skill more since I'd like to continue with me doing the rudimentary upholstery on my build. This week, I wanted to change it up a little by applying the fiberglass-backed padding onto the cockpit side panels under the door openings...so, more pattern making. It's probably not going to make a difference, but it was "in my head" when I conceived of my build, and I'm following thru :)
Here's a before picture Attachment 210300 and an after picture Attachment 210301
Next, I wanted to get a strong visual of the "competition" instrument panel. Since the space is limited, I wanted to see what sort of "wiggle room" I had with the layout. I'd rather locate the most critical parts (the instruments and operator interfaces) before locating the other things that could be moved around later (like the wire harnesses). You guessed it! More pattern making. I'm glad I did this, too. Online pictures from other builders don't show it, but they're not really what your eyes see in real life. The perspective is all wrong. Anyway, here's a picture from directly behind the vehicle's centerline Attachment 210309 and here's a representation from the Driver's position in the cockpit -- this was as close as I could get my cellphone camera to reflect what my eyes see Attachment 210310
For you builders out there -- try it out to see what actually works!
My next obsession is going to be where to locate the heater/defroster switch and cable since I don't want the cable bend to be sharp (and I'd like for it to follow the heater hose routing in the engine bay as much as possible)...
Until next time, stay motivated and keep at it!
Craig C
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Front Harness prep (part2)
Hey Y'All,
My front harness layout/design is coming along as I had planned...
Here's what makes it for me: Attachment 210512 the remote reservoir mount doubles as support and heat shield for the wire loom :cool:
I used some good quality wire loom tape and then decided to add some silicone tape for extra heat protection as it comes out of the bulkhead grommet. This made it a little thicker than I had planned, but it all still fit pretty well the way I wanted it to.
Here's some pictures of the layout and final assembly Attachment 210513 Attachment 210514
Lastly, a picture of the inner top footbox panel and engine-bay view of the remote reservoir bracket Attachment 210515
Until next time, Happy Building!
Craig C
Spent the better part of the weekend bleeding brakes
Hey Y'All,
I spent most of my weekend bleeding the brakes ... and not a lot of progress on other stuff :(
However, despite not having any pictures to share, I did confirm that my lines are not leaking (yet), and while the idea of reverse filling the system sounds like a good idea, I didn't get it to work that well because I couldn't maintain a seal around the bleeders long enough to go over the the vacuum pump and build more vacuum.
So, the next step is to get a Motive adapter (already ordered) and finish that job :) By the way, did I say how relieved I am that my lines aren't leaking? :p
Happy Building!
Craig C
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Mocking in the heater box
Hey Y'All,
After second-guessing my initial plan to fasten/mount my heater/blower unit...I took a different approach after thinking about how to get that sucker out again with the body in place :confused:
I've not been a fan of the screws that cut into the plastic, since in my experience they tend to strip out when least convenient :rolleyes:
My initial plan was to use small button head screws, but I don't think I could get an Allen wrench in there with the body on, so I changed over to small serrated, flange-head, hex screws...
This way, I can choose to mount the bottom separate from the top, or just mount the two halves together and them mount to the firewall. I chose the latter approach, but that meant getting creative with the Dremel tool and a small drum sanding attachment on the plastic motor unit reinforcement webbing.
Here's a picture of the two halves fastened together Attachment 211021
and a picture mocked onto the firewall panel Attachment 211022
I could get either a 1/4" nutdriver onto the fasteners or a small 1/4" combination wrench :)
With that settled, I started to mock the wiper motor unit into place Attachment 211023
There's not a lot of position adjustment space (even by following the heater unit locations per the Build Manual). In the next post, I need your help to confirm this location looks OK...
Happy Building!
Craig C
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Need help to confirm the location of the wiper motor
Hey Y'All,
For those who've installed a wiper motor, or who have worked on a Roadster with one installed, I need your help to check if this location looks OK. I've got several pictures with reference ruler in place: Attachment 211024Attachment 211025Attachment 211026Attachment 211027
It appears the limiting factor is how tight to locate the gear unit up under the 3/4" top engine bay frame tube...
These two pictures show the "wiggle room" that I have up-n-down (2.5" ~ 2"): Attachment 211028Attachment 211029
So, what's the verdict? In the ballpark? Close enough?
Appreciate the feedback! :)
Until next time, Happy Building...
Craig C