Is the Gen3 Aluminator worth the extra $3k over the regular Coyote?

https://performanceparts.ford.com/part/M-6007-A50NAB

it seems it's upgraded internals but same power - correct?
looks like the following upgrades:

• Mahle pistons
• Manley con-rods
• ARP bolts
• spark plugs
• no exhaust manifold (no issue for these cars)
• oil filter - probably in the Gen3 Coyote too
• billet oil pump gears

Gen3 Coyote M-6007-M50C	Gen3 Aluminator M-6007-A50NAB
The Ford Performance all-aluminum 2018-2020 5.0L Coyote crate engine is a modern 5.0L 32-valve DOHC V-8 that uses advanced features like Direct and Port Fuel Injection, Twin Independent Variable Camshaft Timing (Ti-VCT), high-flow cylinder heads, and heightened compression ratio to deliver 460 horsepower @ 7,000 rpm and 420 ft.-lb.+ of torque @ 4,600 rpm (with premium fuel). The lightweight plasma transferred wire arc spray aluminum cylinder block features cross-bolted main bearing caps and thick main bearing bulkheads for bottom-end strength, optimized oil drainback and windage control to improve high-rpm performance.	Ford Performance has taken the Gen 3 Mustang GT 5.0L Coyote engine and created another in its series of "Aluminator" crate engines built to deliver higher performance. The 5.0 Aluminator NA is built with connecting rods and pistons designed specifically for high performance applications. Mahle® 12.0:1 compression ratio forged pistons are hard anodized and feature Grafal® low friction coating. The connecting rods are premium Manley ® H-beam with ARP® 2000 bolts. The Gen 3 5.0L Aluminator NA is a direct bolt in for 2018-2020 Mustang GT.
460 Horsepower @ 7,000 rpm	460 Horsepower @ 7,000 rpm
420 ft.-lb.+ of Torque @ 4,600 rpm	420 ft.-lb.+ of Torque @ 4,600 rpm
12.0:1 Compression ratio	12.0:1 Compression ratio
Hypereutectic aluminum pistons	Mahle® Hard Anodized forged pistons with Grafal® low friction coating
Sintered steel connecting rods as used on BOSS302 Mustang	Manley® H-beam connecting rods
Forged steel crankshaft	Forged steel crankshaft
Aluminum block which features plasma transferred wire arc spray weld liner coating	Uses production 2020 Mustang GT aluminum block
Longer, 12 mm head bolts for higher clamp load	ARP® 2000 bolts
10 qt capacity oil pan	10 quart oil pan
Tuned composite intake manifold provides efficient air delivery and weight savings	Tuned composite Mustang GT intake manifold
80 mm single bore "drive by wire", electronic throttle body with variable runner control	production drive by wire 80 mm throttle body variable runner control
High-flow aluminum cylinder heads, dual overhead camshaft (DOHC), four valves per cylinder, variable intake and exhaust camshaft timing	Four-valve-per-cylinder aluminum heads with roller-finger followers reduce friction.
Mustang GT production camshafts	Mustang GT production camshafts
	Includes Ford Performance colder, heat range zero (0) spark plugs, M-12405-M50A
Engine mount bosses and bell housing mount pattern common to 4.6L modular engines	Engine mount bosses and bell housing mount pattern common to 4.6L modular engines
Mustang GT 409 stainless steel tubular exhaust manifold on the RIGHT SIDE ONLY	Does not include exhaust manifolds
Vehicle harness and PCM not included. Use Ford Performance M-6017-M50B Control Pack which includes wiring, PCM and installation kit, designed for project car installation	Vehicle harness and PCM not included. Use Ford Performance wiring, PCM and installation kit M-6017-M50B designed for manual transmission street rod/project car installation. Can also be equipped with automatic transmission controls pack - see M-6017-M50BA more information.
	Includes Ford Performance oil filter - M-6731-FL820
	Includes billet steel gerotor oil pump gears M-6600-M50A
Does not include alternator, for alternator kit see M-8600-M50BALT or M-8600-M50ALTA	Does not include alternator, for alternator kit see M-8600-M50BALT or M-8600-M50ALTA

I think for regular driving it's a bit overkill...

I was hoping for a Gen3 Aluminator XS but those are 2X the cost of a coyote!

I think you answered your own question. If you're just doing regular driving and no intention of power adders, the extra money isn't worth it. The Aluminator is clearly designed to stay together at higher power levels. Whether NA or boosted. If you're just going to run the stock HP and torque, the stock engine will easily stay together. Some will say but yeah down the road you're going to want more power and then you can add it without fear of breaking the motor. True I guess. But even the stock Coyote can have power adders and be just fine. Especially IMO with the relative light weight of our cars and for most of us not nearly the same annual miles as our DD's.

Hey, Todd. I think Trevor's aluminator is in the 500's or so, isn't it? I know he has stack injection, but I don't know what else he did to it.

By all means get the XS

The Gen 1 Aluminator had a lot more done to it than the Gen 3. Its hp rating was over 500. There was, what I considered, significance differences in the Gen 1's. I do not see it in the Gen 3 specs. The Mustang guys add power adders to the Gen 3's and they live. Same rods as the Boss. I think for the Gen 3s, it is an easy choice. I have the A50XS Aluminator.
Hope this helps.

C’mon Todd, where’s your forum mindset? You know, the one that says if it costs more it must be better:p

Jeff

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Originally Posted by Jeff Kleiner

C’mon Todd, where’s your forum mindset? You know, the one that says if it costs more it must be better:p

Jeff

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And if it's twice as expensive, it's 4 times better. Thats why it should be the Gen3 Aluminator XS

LOL you guys crack me up! The Aluminator XS is one of my favorite motors, but at $22k dang! I gotta pay annual CA taxes on that!

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Originally Posted by toadster

LOL you guys crack me up! The Aluminator XS is one of my favorite motors, but at $22k dang! I gotta pay annual CA taxes on that!

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Right? Luckily, they didn’t ask about drivetrain cost when calculating tax here.

$8500 for a gen2 with that kind of power and reliability?..done deal!

Here you go. yw. :D

2006 FORD GT GT40 SUPERCAR ENGINE 5.4 DOHC SUPERCHARGER 900 miles

I could jump right in, had problems with the aluminator so put all my paint money into a built gen 2 with boss heads.

CJ Pony Parts is advertising them for $11,750. For about $2K more you can get a pump gas 427W that makes 667 HP. https://www.shafiroff.com/ford-pump-...gas-engine.php I know which one I'd prefer.