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Progress with foam and clay

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It's been a long, quiet week on the blog front, but finally, some poorly-documented progress for you. I'll start by apologizing for the poor quality of the pictures - as a former photo major, I should be ashamed. They'll get better when I get a new phone (hopefully soon) and I'll rent/borrow a real professional rig for the final pictures.

To reiterate my plan (I think I outlined this in the initial blog post): This is a 1/5 scale model, cut in half so I don't have to duplicate my work from left to right. I'll set up a nice photo shoot at the end and submit pictures of the model as my entry. I'll use a mirror to give the effect of a full-width model for the shoot. I'm hoping to be able to paint the clay when I'm done to give the full effect.

During the week, I planned, measured, and cut up the foam board and glued it together to make a basic form. It would be an utter bear to make this thing entirely out of clay, so I need a rough form to apply an outer layer of clay to. I'll be able to shape and carve the clay to my heart's content, but important things like the wheels and engine will be unmovable.

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Here's the foam on a turntable I borrowed from a friend. You're looking at the left hand side of the car. The front wheels will be centered at the leftmost edge of the main box. The main box vaguely represents the passenger compartment. Behind (to the right in the pic) that is my approximation of the engine and transmission. I didn't have a compass with which to make the wheels, but they need to get attached soon.
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Here's the clay, with some of it attached to the door area. I'm expecting to put down clay about 1" deep here, so there's a ways to go here. My tool of the day is this "pear tool", which we use in pottery to shape bowls and trim the foot into the bottom of things (usually bowls). Today I was using it to shave off clay from the sticks I bought. This stuff carves [i]beautifully[/i] at room temperature, but you can move it with your hands. So my tactic, based on my positive experience with the hot-water bath last week, is to shave the clay into thin strips (more surface area!), dump them in a ziplock, and submerge that in a bowl of water I've microwaved up to about 160F. This is a laborious process, to say the least. I only got one stick applied to the form this evening. I was interrupted a lot, but overall it was just slow going. And I realized that once it's on the form, I'll still need to move it around occasionally, so I need some way of warming it on the form. Amazon will be delivering a heat gun on Wednesday. Hopefully it won't just incinerate the clay.

Here's the foam form with one stick (1.75lbs) of clay applied.
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I have one stick left. Pretty sure I'm going to have to buy more!

That's it for now. I won't get to work on this until Wednesday, maybe I'll buy some more clay then. I'll have the heat gun then too, so hopefully things will proceed a little faster. I need to dedicate some serious time to this soon - my goal is to submit my finished design by early-mid May. No working until the last minute for me!
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  1. olpro's Avatar
    [url]http://www.claysculptors.com/[/url]
    Youv'e got a long way to go. This guy is no expert but his website might be helpful. He recommends 60-100 lbs of clay for a 1/5 Corvette (both sided model)
    Good luck.
  2. Olimk2's Avatar
    I would have made the foam core bigger (mainly at the front) to save clay. Did you draw basic views of your car? The web site shown above gives good advices...
  3. thebeerbaron's Avatar
    Wow, that has to be one of the most difficult-to-navigate websites I've encountered in a while. Yes, I see the 60-100lbs reference, but like other folks there, I'm using Chavant Y2 clay, which is incredibly light for its volume.

    I've been meaning to do this math for a while, so let's do it here...

    1.75lbs of Y2 clay is approximately 51.5 cubic inches.
    A rough estimate of my model size is 5" x 31" x 7" (very rough) = 1085 cu inches.
    My buck is approximately 596 cu inches

    Uh oh.

    I think I need to rethink my buck, and budget for a bit more clay.

    Thanks for the wake-up. Expect more posts soon!
  4. thebeerbaron's Avatar
    Olimk2 - I have good side profiles, but it's the front that's catching me. I want to be able to sculpt that very deeply. I expect to make it hollow, to the greatest extent possible, and add clay back in as I go along.

    Overall, I think one of the great differentiators here is that I do not have perfect drawings of what I want to do here - if I did, I'd just enter those in the competition. The reason for working with clay is not because I'm nuts, but because I'm more comfortable with it than I am with pen and paper, or any drawing program. Also, working with clay is very relaxing to me. So I expect I'll add a lot of clay to the buck, trim a lot of it off, and keep working like that until it's perfect, or time runs out.
  5. Olimk2's Avatar
    you should had the plugs for the wheel arches like on the corvette model, will help a lot!
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  7. olpro's Avatar
    [url]http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showthread.php?338-Open-Design-Discussion-and-What-s-NEXT!/page10[/url]
    I posted some info on clay modeling you may find helpful. Since I am new, it didn't show up until hours later and many other post are after it. If you go to that thread, they are well into page 11 and my (delayed) post is back on page 10.
  8. thebeerbaron's Avatar
    Thanks olpro. I don't read that thread anymore because it's become a place to post pictures and critiques of others creations. I don't want that influence and I don't want to know what people are going to think about my design. I made a special exemption and read your post, very informative.

    I may not be doing this exactly the same way as the professionals do it, but it'll be similar. I work with clay a lot, so the real challenge here is to adapt the skills I have with water-based clays to this plastic stuff and to make sure that the techniques that are applicable to artistic design are compatible with industrial design. I don't expect anyone to use this model to cast body panels or plot points for a 3D model. I just want something that will be the equivalent of a finished pen-and-ink sketch.

    I've been home sick from work the last day and a half. I've been mostly sleeping, but have some ideas that will probably get posted tonight.
  9. OregonDave's Avatar
    I build body bucks from wood blocks and plywood, then mount scale RC car wheels before applying clay. Plywood has good dimensional stability and doesn't flex as much as foam.
  10. thebeerbaron's Avatar
    Oregon Dave - After smearing this clay onto the foam buck, I gotta agree with you that less flex would be good. But I live in a 435sq foot studio apartment in Manhattan. No way to cut plywood. So I'll suffer along with foam and an exacto knife. The RC wheels are a great idea, but I think they'd be out of scale here - my new 1/8th scale model turns a 25" diameter by 8" wide Subaru wheel into 3.125" x 1" and I seem to recall RC wheels being much wider for the same diameter.
  11. Rotr8's Avatar
    Hey Baron, good luck as you progress, heres an industry standard product that I typically use if you find yourself frustrated by your medium,, http://www.avesstudio.com/

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