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GWL
03-29-2013, 05:54 AM
Supercharge your Eastwood Flaring Tool with 37º BrakeQuip Dies and Punches

As many of you know, the Eastwood Flaring Tool only comes with 45º punches and dies for doing the brake lines. However, I took a chance and bought some punches and dies from BrakeQuip after talking to their tech department and verifying the sizes of the dies and punches. They work great in the Eastwood Tool.
I have bought and verified that the following dies and punches will work in the Eastwood Flaring Tool.

3/16” Part #
BQ 350-37..... Die
BQ 350-21..... Op 1
BQ 350-51..... Op 2

3/8”
BQ 350-67..... Die
BQ 350-24..... Op 1
BQ 350-52..... Op 2

This pdf will have all the part numbers for the other dies and Operation 1 & 2 Punches.
BQ350 Flaring Tool - Parts List
http://www.brakequip.com/pdf/flaring...list_bq350.pdf

They also have a complete kit that may work which includes the turret with the proper punches installed.
BQ352-SP
A 37 ̊ kit for anyone who has a Sykes Pickavant 270 series flaring tool kit. This kit may well fit the Eastwood Flaring Tool. When talking to their Tech guy, we both measured our turret and they both measured the same. I do know the punches and dies do work in the Eastwood tool.
Includes 8 punches and 5 die sets, Sizes 3/16" to 1/2".
Catalog page for the Kit above:
http://www.brakequip.com/pdf/flaring_tools.pdf

For Technical Assistance contact:
BrakeQuip LLC
USA and Canada Toll Free: 877-431-0075
or Phone direct: 865-251-9193
Email: info@brakequip.com
Fax: 865-251-9187
BrakeQuip Brake and Clutch Hose Products, Tools and Manufacturing Systems

I am not trying to sell this stuff nor do I have any interest in selling it, it is just information from my research and testing that I'm passing on to everyone.:)

George

Scott Zackowski
03-29-2013, 09:52 AM
The Eastwood Flaring Tool is very good, easy to use, and I personally recommend it. Not all flaring tools will work on Stainless Steel (SS), this one does. Until now its main limitation was the inability to do 37 degree AN flares.

I really appreciate this information.

Question:
Are 37 degree flares single or double flare? Or can they be one or the other like 45 degree flares?
Since the puches, you have listed above come in 2 (two stages), I assume it is creating a double flare.

GWL
03-29-2013, 07:32 PM
The Eastwood Flaring Tool is very good, easy to use, and I personally recommend it. Not all flaring tools will work on Stainless Steel (SS), this one does. Until now its main limitation was the inability to do 37 degree AN flares.

I really appreciate this information.

Question:
Are 37 degree flares single or double flare? Or can they be one or the other like 45 degree flares?
Since the puches, you have listed above come in 2 (two stages), I assume it is creating a double flare.

I am only completing single flares on my fuel lines and this is probably the norm. Yes, you can complete double flares but I have not done so with the cunifer lines yet. Would it be something you would ever do though? I'm not sure because you need to limit the size of the outer diameter of the flare. I did this by backing off, a bit, the amount of fuel line I had into the dies until I ended up with just the right diameter of flare the AN nut could fit over in order to assemble to the male AN filtting. Remember, we are only working with relatively low pressures (40psi w EFI) and much more with your brake system. I'm not at home now but I can post some detailed pictures, next week, of the work I completed with both the brake and fuel lines.

Yes, I ended up buying the Opt 2 punch for the 3/8" fuel line which I probably shouldn't have done because I'll probably never use it.

George

CHOTIS BILL
03-30-2013, 12:16 PM
I have heard that you only do a single flare on SS tubing because forming the first part hardens the SS to the point it will crack if you try a double flare but I haven’t tried it to see if it is true or not. If I get a chance I will try it for myself.

Bill Lomenick

VdubJoe
03-30-2013, 04:19 PM
All brake lines should be double flare. SS double flares just fine. Go to Inlinetube and they have a small article on proper cutting and flairing ss.

Joe

Scott Zackowski
03-31-2013, 08:59 PM
I agree with Joe. My understanding is that all 45 degree flares should be DOUBLE to prevent leakage. For 37 degree AN flares, I have only seen single flares. Hence the reason I asked the question I did on my 3/29 post.

The EASTWOOD flaring tool will do 45 degree flares in SS in sizes 3/16 up to 3/8 inches, no cracks, as Joe states go to inline tube and follow their advice. You will have to experiment some.

Here is what I have learned in making my SS Fuel and Brake Lines:

1) They must be annealed like Inlinetube sells.
2) DO NOT use a tube cutter.
3) Avoid as much as possible heating up the end of tube due to friction. Heat seems to over harden the SS.
4) Cut the tube with a Hack Saw. I would snugly secure the tube/line in a drill press vice and then use the edge of the vice as a guide to assist in making a 90 degree cut (sorta like a miter box).
5) Deburr the end of the tube using a deburring tool.
6) Use a 45 degree chamfer drill bit for metal to put a slight edge on the inside of the tube. DO NOT over heat the tube.
7) Use a hand file to put a gentle 45 degree edge on the outside of the tube.
8) With your finger put just a touch of oil (3 in One works fine) on the edge of the tube just before flaring.
9) Use the EASTWOOD Flaring Tool (slightly expensive but worth it and a must for SS but cheaper than the more professional tools).
10) Make sure the tube is even with the edge of the die.
11) VERY IMPORTANT to clamp the dies together very tightly. If the tube slips in the die, you end up with either a single flare or poor double flare.

SS lines are very professional looking and will last for ever.


Mk IV, Complete kit, FFR 7304

CHOTIS BILL
04-01-2013, 08:10 AM
Thanks guys for all the good info. I have the Eastwood flaring tool but didn’t try doing a double flare. This is the first time I have used SS tubing. I have only done a few lines and will be redoing them.

Thanks again,

Bill Lomenick

edwardb
04-01-2013, 11:58 AM
You absolutely can do double flares in SS. But it has to be annealed. I did all the fuel and brake lines on my Mk4 with annealed SS from Inlinetube and the Eastwood flaring tool. More details and pictures are in my build thread here:

http://www.ffcars.com/forums/17-factory-five-roadsters/299597-mk4-7750-build-progress-update.html#post2759380

I did double flares for all with no issues. I agree generally with all the recommendations from Scott. I cut mine with a cut-off wheel in a Dremel. With a very light touch they only get slightly warm. I squared them up and put the slight chamfer on the outside using a disk sander. Again, using a very light touch. I actually applied lube to the die vs. on the tube itself. I used some air tool oil. Happened to be what was close on my workbench. Just a slight finger dab on the die. Also agree the tube must be even with the edge of the die. My one bad double flare was because I didn't have it in far enough. Also agree you have to really cinch down the clamps. Puts a little bit of a mark on the stainless -- kind of dulling the shine -- but that's what it takes. If not really tight, they will slide and mess up your flare.

Consider all the advice. But the best advice I can give is practice. Find out what works for you, and that you can do it reliably, before starting on the real tubes.

Scott Zackowski
04-02-2013, 12:07 PM
Credit must go to EDWARDB who helped me immensely in solving problems I was having in making double flares in SS fuel and brake lines. When I was at whits end and failing, his advice showed me the path to success.

SWZ

Mk IV, Complete kit, FFR 7304

edwardb
04-02-2013, 12:23 PM
Credit must go to EDWARDB who helped me immensely in solving problems I was having in making double flares in SS fuel and brake lines. When I was at whits end and failing, his advice showed me the path to success.

SWZ

Mk IV, Complete kit, FFR 7304

Thanks Scott! Glad I could help. We're all learning together. :D

FBB1951
10-31-2015, 04:02 PM
I have a K-Tool 700081 flaring tool. It appears to be identical to the Eastwood 45 Degree kit. Does anyone know if the Eastwood 37 degree die set will fit the K-tool 70081?