Vman's 818 Design Mod.s

[Vman7]

Here are the links to my design ideas Albums.

People can use them for inspiration, pull them from the albums and put in their own threads, can do what they like with them.

Not going to put back up coupe, targa, soft top designs for now.

General Designs done back in june 2012
http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/album.php?albumid=489

Rear idea
http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/album.php?albumid=490

818 Front Mod.s
http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/album.php?albumid=514

818 Coupe, Targa, Softtop Designs
http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/album.php?albumid=541

818 Wide Body

Vantage Design Project
http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/album.php?albumid=523

This is the Vantage 3.0 version. There is going to be a 4.0 version later.

David

[RM1SepEx]

Sorry to see you go, however I understand... good luck, you do great work!

[riptide motorsport]

thanks.

[HelluvaEngineer]

I am sorry to hear this. You did/do GREAT work. When I get my 818 targa, I had planned on incorporating some of your ideas as they looked so good by comparison.

[bbjones121]

I like this album method much more. All the pics in one spot. Thanks VMan for all your work.

[Gus]

Sad to see you go, thank you for all your work.. hope to see that targa in fleshh one day...!

[Mechie3]

I should have right click saved as all the pics when I had the chance. :/

[Vman7]

I added a new Album, 818 Front Mod.s, with a few mock-ups. See post #1

[bnr32jason]

Your front and rear designs are damn near perfect and MUCH better than stock designs.

[Vman7]

Your front and rear designs are damn near perfect and MUCH better than stock designs.

Thanks :)

[Vman7]

I started playing around with a few other ideas for the front using the best picture I have right now. I probably won't do finished version until I can either get some better pics or some kind of CAD in screen shot. So they will just be mock-ups.

Right now I have 3 that I am working on. They all look pretty much the same, just variations. I know some are going to say oh that looks like......lol

David

[FFR-ADV]

Its always nice to see your work David!

Thank you!

Steve

[Vman7]

Steve, thanks :)

I added bunch more front designs to the 818 Front Mod.s Album, see post #1

I am going to add them to this thread as well, so ppl can talk and ask questions etc.

Enjoy! :)

[Vman7]

The following designs are based on the Current 818 (Posts #14 - #17)

There are a lot more ideas I have in mind working with the Current 818.

As far as major front changes that will be more down the road (all ready have ideas in mind :) )


http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=15711&d=1361867216

[Vman7]

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=15710&d=1361867190

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=15709&d=1361867159

[Vman7]

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=15708&d=1361867136

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=15707&d=1361867115

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=15706&d=1361867087

[Vman7]

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=15705&d=1361867054

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=15704&d=1361867013

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=15703&d=1361866981

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=15702&d=1361866919


Enjoy! :)

[Mechie3]

Nice work. What are you doing up at 3:30 am? Lol

[bnr32jason]

I prefer this one:

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=15596&d=1361601103

[Nuul]

VA2B2 is my favorite thus far. Good work, I really like checking out your updates on this.

[Gus]

I really like this one, not sure if you could tweak it to make it a viable option...

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[Mechie3]

^^ That one is still my overall favorite as well.

[Xusia]

And that one would work the best with split radiators I think. :)

[Vman7]

I really like this one, not sure if you could tweak it to make it a viable option...

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^^ That one is still my overall favorite as well.


And that one would work the best with split radiators I think. :)


Step ahead of ya.....lol I have a couple that are real close to that layout, they are just going to take longer to get done since they have more detail.

David

[Mechie3]

:D Can't wait to see it.

Now, if only I could learn to make those in real life...

[RM1SepEx]

Step ahead of ya.....lol I have a couple that are real close to that layout, they are just going to take longer to get done since they have more detail.

David

This one would be great with two small front radiators! :)

[Gus]

:D Can't wait to see it.

Now, if only I could learn to make those in real life...


If you can figure it out, don't hesitate to share!!
I know you would anyways:)

[Mechie3]

I know the touchy feely of how to make one, just not sure if my skills are up to the task.

[RM1SepEx]

It would make a great "option"!
alternate nose, parts req. to go to two aluminum radiators, alt hood w/o air ducting

[bbjones121]

v1 c2 is my favorite, but it would be nice to have the lower lip of the bumper stay level across the front. Besides brake cooling and radiator airflow, there is no other need for large openings in the front. I am all for practical vents, not ones that are just for looks.

[Vman7]

v1 c2 is my favorite, but it would be nice to have the lower lip of the bumper stay level across the front. Besides brake cooling and radiator airflow, there is no other need for large openings in the front. I am all for practical vents, not ones that are just for looks.

The C series as far as I am concerned out of this latest group of fronts is my favorite. C1 and C2 I would like to define more. C1 is nice for ppl to do their own opt.s. I agree with the lower lip aka airdam/splitter area, I also like it to stay level across the front. Not sure what the big deal lately with so many going with the "so called" up area in the middle is about.

I do plan on doing more with the C Series, and yes with a full airdam/splitter styles as well.

[Vman7]

Concerning this mock-up that some like.

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=15718&d=1361909741

I know I said the following:


Step ahead of ya.....lol I have a couple that are real close to that layout, they are just going to take longer to get done since they have more detail.

David

If you notice the outside vents went all the out to where the orig. 818 side vents are. Those orig. 818 side vents if you look at all the 818 pictures are somewhat around the corner not so much out it front. I know it is deceiving when looking straight on.

Now if you look at the very top edge of the fenders where the sharp edge is, now following that pretty much straight down, that is pretty much the max far out you really want to go, since after that the body really starts to curve quickly.

Don't worry I have some layouts already and they look real good, just going to take time to get everything just right with detail and such.

oh btw all the fronts I posted lately I started sunday night and finished and post by about 3:30 early tuesday morning, of course I sleep a few times ...lol, so I guess about a days worth of work. Mostly some stuff I knew I could post pretty quickly.

The better front designs with more detail will come. Just wish I could get some better front and rear high res pictures :)

In the meantime ppl can check the ones posted out, to give them some ideas etc.

Enjoy! :)
David

[Hiryu]

I don't know...I could imagine it working (or maybe using mesh to fill in the venting if there's too much of an angle). If FFR wants to give me a mesh of the 818, I can test it out in Maya or 3DS Max... ;)

...Until then:

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=15735&d=1361948936

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=15736&d=1361949579

You can also see how far back the vent would go in the original photo; check out the poster in the background:
http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=12055&d=1349066913

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/album.php?albumid=429

Mike


Adding a version without hood vents:
http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=15737&d=1361950994

[Vman7]

Hiryu, ok now I remember those, now that I see the photo album (the older ones)......duh....lol

Looks pretty good in that front/side shot.

I just wonder if it would be grabbing too much air.

[flytosail]

They all look real nice till you have to place a front license plate on it.

For those that say just do not put it on the car, it would be just be one more PC (probable cause) for a traffic stop.

Thanks DMV of my state and along with about 30 others for not allowing us to have nice things.

[longislandwrx]

easy to mount a plate to your tow hook mount/bolt welded to the frame. easily removable.

http://kspecracing.com/i-542604.aspx

[Vman7]

Well I am kind of at a stand still here on the 818. I really don't want to spend a lot of time on the front until I can get some higher quality pictures and or CAD screen shots. Same goes for the rear, and there isn't even a straight on shot of the rear as of yet.

I know some maybe thinking why not do 3 point perspectives (what some call in layman's terms, 3/4 view). Those are great for eye candy and to get an overall idea of what is going on. But in order to see if "real world" parts like lights etc. can actually work, straight on shots work the best, not only that but it helps those who would like to do the work themselves be able to lay things out.

I need to work on something.......lol :) I have so many things going on my head is spinning....:p

I probably will work on the GTM stuff, since I said I was going to do that.

Once I can get some high quality pictures and or CAD in screen shots with the right angles, I can get back on the 818.

So just be patient, they will come :)

David

[Vman7]

I added the Vantage Design Project Album, see post #1 for link.

The Vantage design in the album is the 3.0 version. I redid the rear view to reflect the top side vents, plus added clear taillight covers as an opt., as well as a Vantage emblem opt., and a recessed Factory Five as an opt.

There is going to be a Vantage 4.0 in the future, reflecting more of the shape of the current 818. The Vantage rear will look pretty much the same, the side will have all the vantage lines, but working with the current 818. The 4.0 front will be pretty much the same, except there will be a headlight and front deck shape change.

Enjoy! :)

David

[flynntuna]

David, your work is remarkable. I always enjoy your designs.

[timmy318]

Simply stunning! Always love drooling over your work!

[metalmaker12]

lol you did the poster too, your sick, lol good work

[slopoke]

Don'tcha just love it when a guy hits a home run ... Thanks for sharing

[Vman7]

lol you did the poster too, your sick, lol good work

Poster? must be referring to the Warrior Princess graphics :) Unless you know about the 818 poster ideas I have......lol

Thanks everybody for the kind comments :)

David

[timmy318]

.....Unless you know about the 818 poster ideas I have......

Don't just casually throw in that juicy info and not expect us to want to see them!

[Vman7]

Don't just casually throw in that juicy info and not expect us to want to see them!

lol...........I started one back before FFR had any pictures out, but now that they have pics, I can get back to work on those. But for right now there really isn't anythng to see. Patience young grasshopper :)

[FFR-ADV]

Thanks for sharing Vman7!

Cheers!

[Vman7]

Thanks for sharing Vman7!

Cheers!

Your welcome! :)

[Vman7]

Sorry I haven't done any updates here or any other place for that matter. I haven't been on the computer that much the last 3 weeks, been busy around the house, you know the usual springtime suff, yardwork, full detail on my truck......lol

I added 2 new Albums: 818 Coupe, Targa, Softtop Designs, and 818 Wide Body (see post #1)

I put the coupe, softtop mock-ups (side view) back up. There is nothing for the wide body yet, that will come later.

David

[metalmaker12]

You might be on board with the hard top, that would be killer

[Vman7]

Here are the Coupe, and Soft Top Mock-ups.

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=16872&d=1366752776

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=16871&d=1366752754

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=16870&d=1366752740

Still not real happy with the "Quick Tops", still needs some tweaking....

Enjoy! :)

David

[Xusia]

MAN! That coupe looks killer!

[metalmaker12]

Number 1 is best in my opinion, but there all great, so now get FFR to get it done

[bnr32jason]

Soft top version for me please! I hope they can take your design and make it work looking just like that. Great job!

[bbjones121]

Love the first one the most. The soft top is nice also.

[Xusia]

I was referring to the first one when I said it looks killer. Looking at it more, though, I wonder if it's possible. The current rear deck is a 2-piece with the split farther forward than it looks like that rendering would allow. It could be done with a 1-piece panel, of course, but that has implications as well...

[longislandwrx]

I do love that first design...does the top "scoops" line catch the bottoms? It looks a little off but may just be the picture's angle.

I would consider ordering a windshield for my R if I thought this would clear the R's hoop but I doubt it.

[Flamshackle]

Here are the Coupe, and Soft Top Mock-ups.

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=16872&d=1366752776
Enjoy! :)

David

Oh wow that is simply stunning! LOVE THIS DESIGN

[shinn497]

Dave might actually base the design of the soft top on VMAN's.

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[kach22i]

So that's the famous soft top - nice.

Recently viewing the front, reminded me of another car's rear.

http://s184.photobucket.com/user/kach22i/library/Automobile%202%20-%20Odds%20and%20Ends?sort=3&page=1
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x295/kach22i/Automobile%202%20-%20Odds%20and%20Ends/Overlay-818sV1A_zpse396468b.jpg (http://s184.photobucket.com/user/kach22i/media/Automobile%202%20-%20Odds%20and%20Ends/Overlay-818sV1A_zpse396468b.jpg.html)

I guess a stronger case can be made for more similarities to the Opel Speedster's front, but I was just having some fun.

[wleehendrick]

Recently viewing the front, reminded me of another car's rear.

Well, I guess that's a good thing, since it's been said many Porsches are more aerodynamic going backwards! :D

[Turboguy]

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=15718&d=1349066913

Of all the front-end redesigns so far I like this one ^^^^ the most. I think it also looks the most "production car" of any of the front end mods.

[ehansen007]

Great work VMAN. I really like the idea of a color-keyed hard top. Seeing them on BMWs, hondas, Miatas, just adds a touch of class as they look expensive when done right. It also kind of gives of a hint of exclusivity as you don't see many. Getting over those rear cowls is going to be a task.

[Vman7]

Thanks everybody! :)

I had to go back an see when I actually did those mock ups of the coupe, "quick tops"., ....lol, it was back in nov of 2012.



I do love that first design...does the top "scoops" line catch the bottoms? It looks a little off but may just be the picture's angle.

The top air duct lines up with the side air duct, it is because of the picture angle, which I had to account for.


Great work VMAN. I really like the idea of a color-keyed hard top. Seeing them on BMWs, hondas, Miatas, just adds a touch of class as they look expensive when done right. It also kind of gives of a hint of exclusivity as you don't see many. Getting over those rear cowls is going to be a task.

Thanks! :) For the coupe, the rear cowls aka seat humps are replaced with a whole new rear deck panel, basicly there would be a 3 pc. unit.

David

[FFR-ADV]

Here are the Coupe, and Soft Top Mock-ups.

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=16872&d=1366752776

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=16871&d=1366752754

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=16870&d=1366752740

Still not real happy with the "Quick Tops", still needs some tweaking....

Enjoy! :)

David

Hi David,

Love your work, especially the Coupe! I sure hope I will be able to upgrade my 818SR with your Coupe Top. This takes it all the way to Dave Smith's "Hair On Fire" vision.

Thank you for sharing it with us.

Cheers!

[C.Plavan]

Now if I could get the 818R doors to open :)

[0100]

Looks great.

Just hit me what is killing the profile of this car. That front vertical fender/door line. I wish they made it more rounded, like the rest of the lines of the car. Still love the car.

[JayStockE30]

Here are the Coupe, and Soft Top Mock-ups.

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=16872&d=1366752776


Still not real happy with the "Quick Tops", still needs some tweaking....

Enjoy! :)

David

Looks amazing. If that could be an add on 2 piece hard top to the current car, with the top center section removable to make a targa, it could not get any more perfect.

[Vman7]

Not sure when I will ever get back on this stuff.

Right now I am working with the VA on going back to school again, and depending on which direction I go, not sure just how busy I will be with school and such.

David

[wallace18]

Not sure when I will ever get back on this stuff.

Right now I am working with the VA on going back to school again, and depending on which direction I go, not sure just how busy I will be with school and such.

David

Best of luck in whatever you do in the future.

[Xusia]

Good to hear from you David! I sure hope you do get the chance to do some more of this work. I think you've got a good eye and some real talent.

[FFR-ADV]

Hi David,

I wish you success in your school plans and hope to see some of the interesting things you will do in the future (maybe on this forum).

If FFR goes forward with your removable hardtop/ coupe design they will have many ready buyers including myself, Not only is it visually stunning, it is practical as your new side air scoops would get air over the intercooler, which is something it can use.

Steve

[Vman7]

Well it's been a while since I updated anything here. So I thought I would just give a few ideas that have been storming through my head, after following a few of the latest threads on the soft top and the hardtop.

I am starting to lean toward a T-top idea instead of the targa, mostly for making it easier to get in/out of the 818 and for storage. What is going on in my head is this idea of a so called T-top that would have the top and the side window work like a gullwing, which for at least now would make it easier in developing the side windows until FFR can develop the rollup/or electirc side windows.

So 1st gen T-Top would be a Top/side window gullwing style that would be easy for getting in/out and for storage.
2nd gen T-Top would just be the top with roll up/or electric windows.

I still need better photos and or in screen shots of the 818 before I can start rendering anything.

But at any rate I thought I would just through this out there.

David

[bbjones121]

Nice to hear from you again David. Can't wait to see what you come up with next. You do a great job.

[Xusia]

That wouldn't be my first choice aesthetically, but functionally it's a great idea and I would probably buy it.

Oh, and welcome back! :)

[Vman7]

Nice to hear from you again David. Can't wait to see what you come up with next. You do a great job.

Thanks :)


That wouldn't be my first choice aesthetically, but functionally it's a great idea and I would probably buy it.

Oh, and welcome back! :)

I haven't gone anywhere, I just have been putting all my efforts into the 33. I can see how it might appear if you don't check the 33 threads.

Xusia As far as aesthetically when it comes to taking off the so called T-top, it would be open all the way across like a targa top. I have this idea in my head that the 2 top halves would have a seam running from fwd to aft and basicly overlap, and when you take the 2 top halves off to store, you just unscrew the knobs from front and aft and the 2 halves come apart. Not sure if that makes sense...lol Anyhoot I have it all figured out in my head.

The T-Tops would look the same as the coupe/targa pictures, only difference would be the seam down the middle from fwd to aft.

For me I would rather have the T-Tops with the rollup/ or electric side windows than the gullwing idea.

David

[FFR-ADV]

Hi David,

Glad to see you in the 818 Forums again. All 818 owners will benefit greatly if Factory Five uses your hardtop design. I look forward to seeing what you do with a split T-Top / Targa Top. Thank you for your great generosity to our community!

Cheers!

[Xusia]

Thanks for the explanation David, that makes sense! I like it. I hope it comes to pass because it solves the window problem too. :)

[flynntuna]

Hey David did you make it down to Gainesville Fl to NOPI to see Wallace18's cars?

The Gullwing style window T-top is an interesting option that's been (as you know) talked about in the early Days of the 818. One of the forums vendors, Tangent tech has or was developing a Gullwing top for the roadster, is your thoughts for the 818's T-top similar?

[Vman7]

Hey David did you make it down to Gainesville Fl to NOPI to see Wallace18's cars?

The Gullwing style window T-top is an interesting option that's been (as you know) talked about in the early Days of the 818. One of the forums vendors, Tangent tech has or was developing a Gullwing top for the roadster, is your thoughts for the 818's T-top similar?

The NOPI was in Orlando about 5 miles from where I live, but I didn't go. I couldn't see paying $25 just to see the 818, I didn't have any interest in any of the other cars. But I do plan on going up to see Tom aka Wallace and check out his 818 and 33, hopefully before he sells the 33.

My idea for the T-Tops is different, it would look more like the mockup coupe I posted. As far as the gullwing it would be more of a 1st gen until FFR can come up with a good rollup or electric side window. Plus the T-Top once removed would be like a Targa, open with no center beam.

David

[flynntuna]

I understand it will look like the outstanding mockup of the coupe you posted. I was just trying to understand the gullwing part of the design idea. you mentioned T-Top with no center beam, like the Lambo Aventador? http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CDMQtwIwAQ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DYk2 TwwDks6s&ei=GI1JU6L_COez8AH6mYDABw&usg=AFQjCNEdmeopOVYX7EInH5hxn-ngc8aT6A

[Vman7]

I understand it will look like the outstanding mockup of the coupe you posted. I was just trying to understand the gullwing part of the design idea. you mentioned T-Top with no center beam, like the Lambo Aventador? http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CDMQtwIwAQ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DYk2 TwwDks6s&ei=GI1JU6L_COez8AH6mYDABw&usg=AFQjCNEdmeopOVYX7EInH5hxn-ngc8aT6A

That's pretty nice on that Aventador. The 2 halves would come apart like that, but there is a center beam, just not very big, mostly for the pivot joints so when you open the top 1st then open the door to get out, then the opposite when you get in. The center beam comes out when you take off the 2 T-tops for storing giving which be open all the way across like a targa.

Think of it as half a gullwing, just the top part.

The gullwing idea would be like I said the 1st gen which would have the side windows attached but would pivot in as you pivot up the top, think of it like an inverted V when up. I am not real big on the idea, but it would allow FFR something until they could work out the side window.

I might have to sketch something up and post it, sometime.
David

[flynntuna]

While the T-Top would probably easier to store the top in the car, the complexity of making it leak proof IMHO might be to hard to do for the average (or in my case below average) builder. The Targa top of the Viper is simpler and I think would be easier to fit and with some modification to Vmans inspiring design might work better.http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=14&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CHQQtwIwDQ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D583 _PXBRh1o&ei=S91JU4y4Lsnf8gHcnoFY&usg=AFQjCNFY2FRbmDut2QIIcSeIOnsAlxzwBQ

[Vman7]

While the T-Top would probably easier to store the top in the car, the complexity of making it leak proof IMHO might be to hard to do for the average (or in my case below average) builder. The Targa top of the Viper is simpler and I think would be easier to fit and with some modification to Vmans inspiring design might work better.http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=14&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CHQQtwIwDQ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D583 _PXBRh1o&ei=S91JU4y4Lsnf8gHcnoFY&usg=AFQjCNFY2FRbmDut2QIIcSeIOnsAlxzwBQ

That's a good point about the complexity of making the T-Top leak proof.

Thanks for showing the videos on the Aventador and the viper. I like the setup a lot on both of those :)

David

[icky]

It was noted before and I will also concur, I would like it to be a fast back style, maybe with a glass engine cover.

[Vman7]

Well this might be my last post in this thread for a very long time.

I would do more on the 818, but without some really good photos and or inscreen CAD shots. Been holding my breath on that one since the beginning of 2013, one can only hold their breath for so long.........lol

Putting all of my efforts into the '33 Hot Rod designs, 289 Roadster/Ferrari inspired design, and maybe a little on the 65 coupe and the GTM, but probably not much.

But come this fall, if all works out right with the VA, I'll be going back to school. I doubt if I am going to have much time for any design stuff.

David

[carbon fiber]

David, keep in touch. If everything works out like you plan, maybe we can collaborate on some things in the future. Good Luck!

[EricScottZehnder]

Oh man, that Vantage 3.0 version is really great and such a HUGE upgrade over the default looks of the 818. Would love to see what the 4.0 version looks like.

After all is said and done, will any of this actually be for sale, though?

[Vman7]

David, keep in touch. If everything works out like you plan, maybe we can collaborate on some things in the future. Good Luck!

Thanks :), I'll keep in touch :)


Oh man, that Vantage 3.0 version is really great and such a HUGE upgrade over the default looks of the 818. Would love to see what the 4.0 version looks like.

After all is said and done, will any of this actually be for sale, though?

Thanks :), not sure if I will ever get back to the 4.0 version. Not sure about any of the designs will actually be for sale, would be nice though.

oh btw, I can tell it was early this morning before I went to bed....lol I forgot to mention that I would be going back to school in the fall, at least that is the plan, so I still have from now until the fall to get some stuff done.

David

[CptTripps]

I'd pay good money for that body kit. Much "angrier" than the 818.

[carbon fiber]

Oh man, that Vantage 3.0 version is really great and such a HUGE upgrade over the default looks of the 818. Would love to see what the 4.0 version looks like.

After all is said and done, will any of this actually be for sale, though? Can you imagine how many more 818s they'd sell if it had this body!?

[Frank818]

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=15718&d=1349066913

Of all the front-end redesigns so far I like this one ^^^^ the most. I think it also looks the most "production car" of any of the front end mods.

Build this. Now.
Thank you.

:)

[flynntuna]

Well this might be my last post in this thread for a very long time.

I would do more on the 818, but without some really good photos and or inscreen CAD shots. Been holding my breath on that one since the beginning of 2013, one can only hold their breath for so long.........lol

Putting all of my efforts into the '33 Hot Rod designs, 289 Roadster/Ferrari inspired design, and maybe a little on the 65 coupe and the GTM, but probably not much.

But come this fall, if all works out right with the VA, I'll be going back to school. I doubt if I am going to have much time for any design stuff.

David



Congrats and good luck at school, I for one will miss your input on the design of the 818. The ideas you have brought to the table are inspiring and just plain cool.
After the unveiling of the 818 at SEMA you had posted some ideas using the "R" as the templet saying something like the panels could be added by FFR. When the 818 section of the forum was revamped those pictures disappeared and there not part of your gallery photos. Did you take them down or is it my imagination?

[Vman7]

Congrats and good luck at school, I for one will miss your input on the design of the 818. The ideas you have brought to the table are inspiring and just plain cool.
After the unveiling of the 818 at SEMA you had posted some ideas using the "R" as the templet saying something like the panels could be added by FFR. When the 818 section of the forum was revamped those pictures disappeared and there not part of your gallery photos. Did you take them down or is it my imagination?

If memory serves, I think it might be when I was talking about the rear on the R version. of course this was just a mock up
http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=14538&d=1358624955

[flynntuna]

Yes it was this mock up, but I could almost swear their was at least two or three other versions from that original photo.

[Vman7]

Yes it was this mock up, but I could almost swear their was at least two or three other versions from that original photo.

No, that's it. Unless you were thinking of the Vantage. I have yet to find or see a really could rear shot. The one above just has too much lens curve in it.

[flynntuna]

This is the post that I was thinking of, thought there were pic's to go along with it.





ok here is a teaser....lol

Yes it's the new 818, yes those are real taillights (hella), and yes the taillights are to scale......lol

The idea is to use modules for everythings, taillight area, ctr section (molded in) etc., that way you can swap out the desired look you are looking for.

Not finished with it yet, but I thought I would post what I have so far, needs more shading, shadows etc. I also have a few other ideas.

This is keeping me busy until there are some really good pics for doing the coupe/targa.


Attachment 12963

[JeromeS13]

I don't see anything?

[Vman7]

This is the post that I was thinking of, thought there were pic's to go along with it.





ok here is a teaser....lol

Yes it's the new 818, yes those are real taillights (hella), and yes the taillights are to scale......lol

The idea is to use modules for everythings, taillight area, ctr section (molded in) etc., that way you can swap out the desired look you are looking for.

Not finished with it yet, but I thought I would post what I have so far, needs more shading, shadows etc. I also have a few other ideas.

This is keeping me busy until there are some really good pics for doing the coupe/targa.


Attachment 12963

where is the attachment? That sounds like the rear I was talking about.

[flynntuna]

Same picture as post #93 I'm assuming .
The thread is http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showthread.php?6663-Current-818-(May-2012)-Coupe-Add-Ons. Pg 33 general discussions

[Vman7]

Yeah that's the thread, boy that thread is old.........lol

[Vman7]

Ok where do I start on this one.......lol

I guess just what is going on in my head....lol

Ever since I came out with the Vantage 3.0, I have gotten some emails and private msg, not a ton, but enough to grab my interest, of ppl asking me if it was ever going to be made or if they could do something along the lines of the Vantage 3.0.

So now it's got me pondering again about the Vantage 4.0 I had in mind a while back. Which for the most part is blending the current 818 with the Vantage 3.0.

I really don't want to get involved again in the 818, for the most part I am through monkeying around with 818. Ever since FFR came out with the final design. Now don't get me wrong, let me say that again, to make it clear. Don't get me wrong, the current 818 is a very good design, but for me it just doesn't have that WOW! factor going on for me, reminds me too much of the S2000.

Now all that being said above about the current 818 and the Vantage 4.0 idea, is great and dandy on the Vantage 4.0 idea, but and this is a BIG but! The only way I would consider doing the Vantage 4.0/818 design is if there was some serious interest, and I mean some really serious interest, not just some ppl just wanting to see some eye candy.

For this to really happen, I would really need those really good photos and or CAD inscreen shots, which I have asked for many times, but to no avail.

So unless I get some really, really serious interest and those photos and or CAD stuff, I won't go forward with the Vantage 4.0.

Sorry in advance for the drab post, but the interest really needs to be there.

I hope everyone can understand where I am coming from :)

David

[Frank818]

Now I want the rear bumper (along with front). I want it now. lolll
But I don't need 3 exhaust tips, though. lolll Mock-ups... :)

The CAD design, I believe we have to ask FFR?

[Vman7]

Now I want the rear bumper (along with front). I want it now. lolll
But I don't need 3 exhaust tips, though. lolll Mock-ups... :)

The CAD design, I believe we have to ask FFR?

Don't need the CAD design itself, just inscreen shots. I would be willing to sign paper work, waver, what ever with FFR.

[Frank818]

I thought someone on this forum got the CAD design from FFR, maybe he can take inscreen shots?

[Vman7]

I thought someone on this forum got the CAD design from FFR, maybe he can take inscreen shots?

hmm...that's something to think about

[Frank818]

I'll go fishing.

[Kalstar]

I would be interested in buying the 3.0 or 4.0 if it ever is available. I'll even put down a deposit now if the price is right.

[C.Plavan]

I would be interested in buying the 3.0 or 4.0 if it ever is available. I'll even put down a deposit now if the price is right.

I agree- Much better design.

[bbjones121]

If memory serves, I think it might be when I was talking about the rear on the R version. of course this was just a mock up
http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=14538&d=1358624955

Hey VMan, If you end up getting a 3d model of these. I think you should find a 3d printing shop that would print the pieces. I have been racking my brain as to how I could modify my 818 to look like this and what it would take.

I think the easiest thing would be to 3D print the extrusions next to the lights and mold them into the body. For the bottom, it is just cut further out and more vertical, so I would just cut and add a rolled edge of fiberglass. The recessed "FACTORY FIVE" could probably be 3D printed as well and molded into a solid or slightly curved piece of fiberglass. If I knew how to vac mold carbon fiber, that would be a perfect piece to have in carbon.

Have you thought about any selling any of these things to make my life way easier :)

[Vman7]

Thanks everybody on the compliments on the Vantage :)



Hey VMan, If you end up getting a 3d model of these. I think you should find a 3d printing shop that would print the pieces. I have been racking my brain as to how I could modify my 818 to look like this and what it would take.

I think the easiest thing would be to 3D print the extrusions next to the lights and mold them into the body. For the bottom, it is just cut further out and more vertical, so I would just cut and add a rolled edge of fiberglass. The recessed "FACTORY FIVE" could probably be 3D printed as well and molded into a solid or slightly curved piece of fiberglass. If I knew how to vac mold carbon fiber, that would be a perfect piece to have in carbon.

Have you thought about any selling any of these things to make my life way easier :)

I have been doing some research of late on the 3D printing stuff also know as Rapid Prototyping. It one good way of going for small pieces, like on the 818, even say a quarter panel.

Your idea on doing the rear panel stuff makes a lot of sense, since everything would be a bunch of parts put together anyways. The "FACTORY FIVE" piece, orig. I was thinking of would have been either injected molded or vacuum molded in any color choice, carbon fiber as well.

Not sure where I put the post on changing body panels.....lol Anyhoot

The idea of a MCS (Modular Component System) for the 818, which would not only just be in body panels, but also with the interior, drivetrain etc. This of course would be something done down the road. This way everything from designs, to out sourcing parts to be made can be controled by FFR or by a 3rd party that works with FFR. This MCS idea would allow customers to pick the options they would like for their 818.

With the MCS body panel changes can change the 818 in to an entire differenct look. Can just change the rear, front, doors etc.

The more I do research on this, it's starts to get somewhat complicated, but can be done.

I would love to work with someone and others to see if this can come to fruition.

David

[Scargo]

Of all of the front ends I like the 818s V1 C1 for having the most race-worthy values.