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SCFFR
01-12-2013, 06:31 AM
A few months ago I posted Part 1 of my under car exhaust system using Spin Tech low profile mufflers and oval tubes. At that time, the body was off the chassis and I realized that the rear section of the system would have to wait until the body was installed in order avoid any interference with the tires, chassis, fuel tank and body. I have since gotten the body properly fastened to the chassis and after spending a month or so on fitting and aligning the doors, trunk and hood, I thought I would jump back on the exhaust.

The front section of the exhaust turns up at the rear bulkhead and ends just to the outside of the lower control arm (3-link setup). I was able to weld up the front section without any real problems since the turns were pretty simple. However, getting up and over the rear end and then back down in a small space would be very difficult and time consuming so I decided to just mock up the section and have it made up at the local muffler shop. I've done this on some other projects and used wire and/or small copper pipe to make the bends I needed. Since the available space is so tight, I decided to use "real" pipe for the mock-up and purchased a 6" section of 2.5" flexible pipe from the local NAPA store. Unfortunately, the flexible pipe could only be bent into about a 7-8" radius which was too big for several of the curves I needed to clear the rear end.

Since the flexible pipe didn't work as planned, I decided to buy a variety of bends from Summit Racing and piece them together. I bought some 45's, 90's and a tight radius U-bends (2.5" dia) and started cutting and tack welding them into place. As Murphy would say, before you can do something you must first do something else which in this case was making some type of mounts for the pipe hangers. As shown in the pics, I fabricated some brackets and mounted them to the chassis and trunk sides (actually bolted through the square tubing) since the width of the sides is narrower than where I needed to run the tailpipes to avoid the fuel tank. I bought a few short sections of 3/16" x 1.25" flat bar and had a piece of 1/8" sheet metal for all the mounts. As I did for the main exhaust section, I used some stock exhaust hanger which I took apart to add my own muffler mount tabs. I was able to make the tight turns around the shock by cutting and welding short curve sections I cut out of the various bends. Once I got around the shock, I used the flexible piece to mock up the final bends and tailpipe since these were pretty small turns. I taped the flexible pipe in place and took it to the local muffler shop where the owner duplicated it in 2.5" pipe for $15 per side. After a little grinding and tweaking, it fit great. Once everything was positioned where I wanted it, I welded the pipes together and added a few tabs on the pipe for the exhaust hangers. Note that I used stainless band clamps to join the front and rear sections together. When I had finished all of the fabrication, I had the rear exhaust sections ceramic coated satin black to match the front sections and the mounting brackets powder coated gloss black.

I'm very pleased with how the entire under car system turned out. From a cost standpoint, it was really no cheaper than the basic side exhaust setup, just something different. I do think that it will be a little quieter when cruising and you can avoid a few burns on your leg but really its a personal choice. I started on the LH side first since the fuel tank on that side sticks out past the trunk sides. It was much easier to duplicte the location of the tailpipe on the right side of the car since the fuel tank was less of an issue. As I did with the front sections, I used some black exhaust wrap on the sections of the pipes closest to the rear bulkhead panels. The part of the project that ended up taking the most time was deciding on the length of the tailpipes. It seemed like every car I looked at with a "street" exhaust had different length tailpipes. On some, the ends barely cleared the body while on others they extended a few inches past the overriders. I originally made them to end at the back edge of the overrider but cut them back to about 1/2" past the bumper bar. Six of one, half dozen of the other. To make sure I had proper clearance with the car on the ground, I dropped it off the jackstand for the first time. There is plenty of clearance between the back side of the tire (Cooper Cobra 295's) and the chassis and shocks. I have to say that I am extremely happy with how it looks.

Link to Part 1 http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showthread.php?7792-Under-Car-Exhaust-Part-1&highlight=exhaust

Looking forward to starting up the engine and seeing how the system sounds.

Ron
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PaulW
01-12-2013, 06:37 AM
Great work!!

SCFFR
01-12-2013, 06:45 AM
Some more pics.
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SCFFR
01-12-2013, 06:56 AM
Before I took the tailpipes and brackets off the car to send them to be ceramic coated/powder coated, I dropped the car off the jackstands for the first time to check for any interference when I rolled the car back and forth in the garage. All was good.

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WIS89
01-12-2013, 10:41 AM
You Sir are a craftsman and an artist!!

Even though I will be going with the side exhaust, I can TOTALLY appreciate all the hard work, engineering, as well as artistry that went into making this happen! I am really very impressed with the terrific job you did, and although you don't need my validation, I felt compelled to tell you how awesome you did!

Congratulations!

Regards,

Steve

skullandbones
01-12-2013, 01:03 PM
Hi Ron,

I will echo Steve's comment, amazing! It doesn't register until you see the whole thing together. It's not only well thought out but it "pretty" too.

On a side note: another amazing thing is how taking the side pipes away along with the sans hood scoop and the front and rear hoop bumpers, the project starts to take on a real civilized look. Some hot rodders call that a sleeper. Thanks for showing off your new project, WEK.

SCFFR
01-12-2013, 05:31 PM
Thanks guys.......the compliments are much appreciated.
It was definitely quite a bit of work but in the end, I got what I wanted so no complaints. If I hadn't discovered the Spin Tech low profile mufflers (2.25" tall) and oval pipes (2" tall), probably would not have to gone with the under car exhaust. I really like the street-version look.

Took advantage of the warm weather today and removed the trunk lid and sprayed a couple coats of Slick Sand on it. Unfortunately, I have just about run out of things to do on the car until it's time to get it painted. Waiting on spring when the temperature will be warmer and more consistent.

Ron

Finished installing both tailpipes late this morning so snapped a quick pic.

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WIS89
01-12-2013, 05:50 PM
Ron-

Are you planning on doing the paint yourself as well? If so, are you planning on making a small "booth" in your garage in which to work, or do you have another option? I ask because I have long thought about painting myself (of course after I actually own one), not just to save some coin, but also to say that I did it too.

Just curious about your plan. I will put $20.00 on one thing though, and that is if it is anything like the work you have done already, it will be stunning!! Your attention to detail and craftsmanship (artwork really), is quite impressive! Please keep us updated!! Great work!

Regards,

Steve

riptide motorsport
01-12-2013, 09:47 PM
Very very nice work.

SCFFR
01-13-2013, 06:21 AM
Steve,

I'll take that $20 bet! Several years ago I did a complete restoration on a 1967 MGB GT where I did the paint job myself. I stripped the car down to the shell and but it on a body cart. I blasted it and coated it with epoxy primer and then all of the body work and painted it in a spray booth I constructed in my garage. It worked out great but like you, I just wanted to see if I could do it and although the paint turned out very nice, don't want to do that again. I had done it because at the time, I couldn't find a shop that I thought would do a decent paint job. Fortunately, there are now a few shops that I will feel comfortable leaving my body for paint. In hindsight, it would have been easier/cheaper if I had tried to rent someone's booth for a day instead of building one.

Thanks,

Ron

WIS89
01-13-2013, 09:46 AM
Ron-

Thanks for the response. I had a '72 MGB (not the GT) that I LOVED, and wish I never sold. The weekend my now wife and I got engaged, the car broke down on the NJ Turnpike. She made it clear that this dog wouldn't hunt, so the car had to go. Truth be known, I am happy with the result, but secretly wish I still had that car! Man it was fun!!

I understand the idea of renting a booth, and I may explore that option when I paint mine. I feel like I could tackle the paint, and I will have a car to practice on between now and then, so I should have an idea if I could pull it off or leave it to the pros!!

You will have to share pictures of the paint progress. I would love to see how it comes along, if you want to keep us updated. Again congratulations on an outstanding build, and good luck as you wrap things up!! Well done Sir!!

Regards,

Steve

SCFFR
01-13-2013, 12:57 PM
Thanks again Steve,

Will certainly post pictures as I go through the paint process...............still debating on color but white with no stripes is at the top of the list.

GWL
01-14-2013, 08:37 AM
This is a project that may be in my future and I have enjoyed your documentation. A professional execution of the under car exhaust system.

Very well done, George

snakebit31
01-14-2013, 12:10 PM
Ron,
Very nice work! Once I finish my coupe, I intend to build another roadster, this one to keep. As a fan of the street version, the under-car exhaust is very appealing. Is part 1 of your fabrication here, or on the other forum?

Rob

SCFFR
01-15-2013, 06:45 AM
Thanks again guys.

Rob - yes, part 1 is on this forum. Should pop up with a simple search.
It wasn't real difficult but definitely need a metal cutoff saw and welder even if you only tack weld the parts in place and took them somewhere for final welding.
Will jump back on the body while the weather here is nice.

Ron

David
01-15-2013, 07:24 PM
Man, you are doing incredible work on this project. Very nicely done! May I make a suggestion to edit your first post and put a link to part one so people can find it easily.

David

SCFFR
01-16-2013, 06:50 AM
Thanks David.

Edited the first post and added link.

Also, listed here: http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showthread.php?7792-Under-Car-Exhaust-Part-1&highlight=exhaust

Ron