Evan's '33 Build #497

[esff32]

Well, Bob delivered my kit yesterday afternoon and I am anxious to get started on this adventure. I went through most of the boxes and started pulling parts to get powder coated. I also removed the body to get access to the sheet metal and suspension. I have most of the drivetrain already and some other cool upgrades. I am going with a 351 Windsor that has about 400 Hp and 400 ft. lbs. of torque. I don't think it will have a problem getting down the road. I also have a "Z" code Ford Motorsports T-5 Tremec to go behind it. I was lucky enough to find this combo from Scott Fraser down in Manhattan Beach. I am upgrading quite of few items on the motor including a Canton road race pan and Millerspeed pulleys. The rear end is out of a '96-'98 Cobra and I painted the calipers and upgraded the discs to Powerstop as did many of you. Here are a few photos and I look forward to interacting with all of you, I'm sure I will have a ton of questions along the way.

[riptide motorsport]

Welcome and congrats!! Great feeling isn;t it?! Enjoy the ride......Steven

[Barrel]

I took delivery of my kit (#353) a year ago to the day, and it's such a buzz so close to Xmas. I like the little pink ride in the second pic but your new build is quite a step up!.
Cheers and Good Luck with it all.

[esff32]

Thanks guys. I'm looking forward to it. I already found some 3 link suspension hardware that wasn't included. No big deal, just some bolts. Can someone confirm for me... I only got one small polished reservoir for my brakes. Most of the other builds I see have the dual Wilwood reservoir, is it aftermarket that people purchase?

[Olli]

"one small polished reservoir" I have no idea what you are talking about. Please post a picture. FFR supplied two plastic Wilwood brand reservoirs. Maybe FFR has changed what they are supplying.

Olli

[esff32]

"one small polished reservoir" I have no idea what you are talking about. Please post a picture. FFR supplied two plastic Wilwood brand reservoirs. Maybe FFR has changed what they are supplying.

Olli

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I just double checked my parts inventory checklist and it shows only one reservoir. I do have a few parts due to arrive on the 26th but it looks as though they aren't part of the shipment. I will have to give them a call.

[Olli]

Well, I guess that could be the brake fluid reservoir..... looks a bit small. Did you look in the build manual? Perhaps FFR has some updated pictures that show that reservoir.

Personally, I like the idea of a seperate reservoir for each circuit.

Olli

[esff32]

Well, I guess that could be the brake fluid reservoir..... looks a bit small. Did you look in the build manual? Perhaps FFR has some updated pictures that show that reservoir.

Personally, I like the idea of a seperate reservoir for each circuit.

Olli

I agree Olli. I will give Tony @FFR a call after the holiday. Merry Christmas.

[Tony Zullo]

Hey guys tony@ffr yes that is the new reservoir just uses one then gets t off it is small but it is only a holding res you don't need much hope everone had a great holloday!!great job Evan you'r flying!!!

[ehansen007]

My man Evan with his new ride! Congrats buddy. With that drive train, it should really rip! I'll be there for the engine fire party for sure. And if it actually catches fire, we'll be fine! ;)

Interesting on the brake resevoir! Hadn't heard about the single. I think it might make it a little hard to bleed since you have to be sure the reservoir is full but other than that it's more compact and can be mounted in the engine compartment with that cool polished look.

[frydaddy]

Great start Few more years for me.

[esff32]

My man Evan with his new ride! Congrats buddy. With that drive train, it should really rip! I'll be there for the engine fire party for sure. And if it actually catches fire, we'll be fine! ;)

Interesting on the brake resevoir! Hadn't heard about the single. I think it might make it a little hard to bleed since you have to be sure the reservoir is full but other than that it's more compact and can be mounted in the engine compartment with that cool polished look.

Thanks for all your help Erik. I hope I didn't create more problems for myself today. I misunderstood the manual and marked and drilled the holes in the firewall where it will mount the body. Based on the layout I don't think it will be an issue but we will see. I will call you tomorrow to talk to you about the powder coating. I have made quite a bit of progress with a lot of the small items. I will post more photos soon.

[esff32]

I made a little more progress the past few days. I finished painting the motor and installed the oil pan. I still need a few accessories for the motor but they can wait a little bit. I sent all of the parts out to the powder coater today and should have them by Thursday next week. I bolted up the rear end and left all of the hardware loose until I get the parts back. I installed the pedal assembly and had a minor stumbling block. I was looking at the clutch quadrant spacer and could not seem to find it among all the hardware. I call Tony and he quickly steered me back on course. The clutch quadrant came with the new and improved clutch mechanism that is supposed to limit the stress put on the pedal. Its a pretty slick upgrade and went in with no problems. Here are a few photos of the progress.
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[esff32]

Updated clutch quadrant mechanism

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[esff32]

Newly painted

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[esff32]

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[esff32]

I made a little progress over the last few days. I got all the parts back from the powder coated today and they turned out great. I also have been getting a lot of parts delivered. Here are a couple of new pics of the progress. I went with black rivets to go on the firewall to make them blend in.

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I also got my new steering wheel delivered yesterday. I wasn't sure I was going to like until I got to see it in person. I really like the look and the feel. It is suede and has really good grip.

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[68GT500MAN]

Looking great. You will really like to pullies from Miller Speed - I am using them on my build.
Doug

[esff32]

Looking great. You will really like to pullies from Miller Speed - I am using them on my build.
Doug

Thanks Doug. The quality of the Millerspeed pulleys seem to be second to none. I am looking forward to getting a set. Do you remember what the price was?

[jethro13]

Engine looks great, much better than in my garage! Can't wait to see it ruin your new tires. The Millerspeed kit is really nice, I ran one on my Challenge Car and its fit was better than any bolt on Kit I have used.
Cheers, Scott

[esff32]

Unfortunately I forgot to powder coat the adjustable lower control arm sleeve and had to run down to drop them off to the powder coater. I also thought the spindles were already coated but when I put them on I noticed that it was a anti-rust coating on them. So I am having them done as well. Guess I need some better light in my garage.

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I also painted the steering column and installed it a couple of days ago. I put a few coats of satin clear, so I hope that will help protect it from scratches.

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I installed the steering rack as well. Now it's time to start bending some brake lines. I will probably install them on the outside like some of you guys have. It seems to be much cleaner and it hides them when the body is on.

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[esff32]

Start that build thread Scott, I want to see pictures. I will give you a call when I get close to throwing the drivetrain in.

[esff32]

I started bending brake lines yesterday and got the first two 60" brake lines bent and temporarily held down with clecos. I also finished installing the rest of the front suspension.

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[esff32]

I finished plumbing the front brakes. Because I ran them on the outside of the frame rails I had to get a little creative on how to accomplish the task. I hope the lines will not interfere with anything later down the build process. All in all, it came out decent. I mounted the steering wheel however I might remove it because it seems to get in my way at this point.

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I finished installing the electric steering and still need to fabricate a bracket to mount the control box to.

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[wallace18]

Looking good so far. Thanks for the great pictures.

[sheephearder]

Have you test fitted the body yet? Will it fit between the firewall and your vertical front brake line? You have done a great job on your build so please check the fitment of the body. I don't think there is enough room for the body to be flush against the fire wall. John

[ehansen007]

Evan, you may want to do something like this because the body slides in behind the firewall. Just make sure you have the clearance.

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[esff32]

I will check it guys. I should be able to fudge the lines over a bit. Thanks.

[esff32]

I ordered my wheels and tires the other day. I went with the XXR 530s in a flat black finish. My tires also were delivered to the house. I decided on the Toyo Proxes R888. The front wheels are 18x9.75 with a 275/35R18 and the rear are 19x10.75 with a 305/30R19. Hopefully they will look as good as I think they will. The front wheels are on back order and I should have them some time next month. As for the rear wheels, they are pre-order only at this time and should be delivered some time in March or April. This was a difficult decision so I hope I made the right choice.

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[ehansen007]

"Evan, join me and together we will rule the galaxy. Obi-Wan Smith never told you what happened to your father...."

[esff32]

Haha. You are too funny.

[wallace18]

Looks to me to be a great tire and wheel combo. Should look awesome on the 33.

[bil1024]

Looks great! I like the foam tubing on the 3/4 tube, what a great idea to protect the powder coat

[esff32]

Yeah. I noticed other people using it on their builds and I thought it was a great idea considering sometimes I get clumsy with a wrench. I'm protecting it from myself.:cool:

[esff32]

I fabricated a bracket to mount the electric steering module. I mounted it in a similar location as the manual. Erik told me he spoke with Unisteer and they said there isn't an issue with water exposure unless the unit got submerged. This steering unit is used on Razor side-by-sides and buggies so I'm not worried about it. It should stay nice and cool and heck with the nice weather in So. Cal., I won't drive the car in the rain.

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[Tony Zullo]

Great job man you'r moving right along good to see!!!! Tony@ffr

[esff32]

My dad came over this morning and gave me a hand installing the motor and trans. I ran into a snag with the electric power assist motor hitting the pan. I had to pull the motor up and out a bit in order to rework the steering. I had to rotate the steering motor down and redrill a hole in the mounting plate. Now there is plenty of room there however the oil pan is extremely close to the X brace. It's not hitting but I am curious to see if it does with a little movement in the motor. Other than that, the motor went in with no real issues. Maybe someone can tell me how they tightened the driver side motor mount stud nut. It is tight in there especially with the steering motor right below it. Here's a few pics of the end result.

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[hdnik]

I had hoped he clocking issue with the EPS unit was resolved, but if yours is #497, my #495 will have the same issue I suppose.

[esff32]

I would think so. There is another set of holes in the plate however they didn't help me. It wasn't terribly difficult to adjust but just another step in the process I suppose.

[esff32]

Thanks Tony. I appreciate it. Talk to you soon I'm sure.

[wallace18]

Looks good. I am using the same engine /trans combo. Could you take a picture of the P/S motor after you reclocked it? Thanks for such a good thread.

[hdnik]

Evan, did your kit come with a hood liner and a trunk liner? If so can you post a pic? I don't remember seeing that on my parts list and its now on the FFR site as part of the package in the "what you get" list.

[esff32]

Thanks. I cant wait to fire it up and see how it runs. I will see if I can get my camera in close enough to show you the bolt mounting locations. hdnik, I'm not sure if I have it either. I will have to go through my inventory again to check.

[esff32]

Looks good. I am using the same engine /trans combo. Could you take a picture of the P/S motor after you reclocked it? Thanks for such a good thread.

Because I had to clock the EPS motor downward to clear the oil pan, the housing where the wires come out of the motor hit the motor mount bracket. I removed it and used a grinder to put a small radius on it. I used the existing top hole and rotated it clockwise and aligned it in the factory other hole toward the outside of the car. I then drilled out that third hole you see in the picture. I opened up the other holes a size or so because i didn't want to fight To realign the bolts. I hope this helps.

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[ehansen007]

Hey Evan, you may need to take the old Italian reforming tool to that pan to give you some clearance. :) Almost all of us had to rotate that steering unit so don't feel bad.

[esff32]

Hey Evan, you may need to take the old Italian reforming tool to that pan to give you some clearance. :) Almost all of us had to rotate that steering unit so don't feel bad.

I figured it was a common problem... FFR keeping us on our toes.

[jayguy]

It's a pre-planned modification, so everyone can feel like they've done something special. :D

[esff32]

That's a good analogy jayguy. It adds to the sense of accomplishment I guess. :cool:

[Olli]

I can't understand why FFR tells guys to install the power steering unit prior to dropping in the engine. Install engine, now tighten that motor mount nut, locate the power steering unit with the correct clocking with respect to clearing the oil pan, drill new holes if necessary. The ps unit will not fit properly with all oil pans. You need to use a pan that is based on a stock pan e.g. Champ Pan. The interference that you discovered between the ps unit and the bottom of the motor mount shouldn't be there if the unit was clocked as per FFR. That isn't to say that that clocking is right. The bottom of the mount was actually changed to accommadate the unit. On the pre-production chassis I had to trim close to a 1/2" off of the lower part of the mount. Also, the original mounting flange only had holes for the standard steering flange bearing.

Here are some old pictures.

Final position after modifying the motor mount and drilling the holes for the ps unit.

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original motor mount
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another of the final position
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[wallace18]

Thanks for the photos and hints. I will install mine after the motor is in. I like that light weight steering shaft to the dash. LOL

[esff32]

Thanks for the info Olli. Boy you had to remove a lot of material from your motor mount bracket. I agree that I probably should have put the motor in first. I will have to figure out a way to tighten that nut because the last thing I want to do is pull the motor again.

[esff32]

I had my front rims and tires mounted and balanced today. I know I made the right choice now after seeing them on the car. I will have to wait a few months to get the rears but they will be worth the wait. Here are a couple of pics.

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[wallace18]

Awesome tires and wheels.

[esff32]

Awesome tires and wheels.

Thank you. It was not an easy decision, not only the style but the sizing.

[hdnik]

Frankly Evan I am blown away at your progress in just a few weeks. You got your kit just before Christmas right? I got mine mid January and only have the front end mocked up. I gotta get my *** in gear and start re-prioritizing things.

Kudos man!

[esff32]

Thanks. I did, I got it on December 23rd. I was just looking at my progress today and I was thinking that I feel like I haven't been in the garage all that much. Just a couple hours here and there. I am trying to balance family time and we just had another baby so I would imagine I will probably slow down a bit. To this point I haven't spent one full day in the garage. My budget is starting to get thin but I have a vision of what I want the car to look like so I don't want to do it half ***. If it takes me longer to finish, so be it. Thanks for the kind words and I am looking forward to seeing your '33 come together. Nice '67 Chevelle by the way... I had one in college. It was one of my favorite cars.

[esff32]

I installed the headers today. They are BBK 15110 polished ceramic. The fitment was pretty good with a nice thick flange. The short FFR exhaust pipe that bolts up to the header appears to be hitting the bell housing around the starter. I might have to persuade it to fit. :p

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[BenBB]

Looking REALLY good!

[esff32]

Thanks. I appreciate it.

[hdnik]

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Evan,

Getting ready to mock up the rear end. I was curious as to why you chose to install brakes on the backside of the axle. In speaking with Kevin Shea, he suggested that I mount them on the front side to facilitate parking brake cable reach. This was confirmed for me by the brake instructions. (Page 5)

6. Install the brake caliper brackets so that the caliper will mount on the front side of the axle. Use the four 3/8”-16 flange bolts provided and torque them to 45-50 ft/lbs.

[esff32]

The rear end is out of a '96-'98 Mustang Cobra. I bought it rebuilt and pre-assembled from a company on eBay. I just threw it in as is. I'm not sure if I can reverse them or not and if there is a benefit one way or the other. Have you purchased the parking break cables yet and if so what part # did you find. I have seen a lot of info about this subject but I have yet to find out a definite solution.

[hdnik]

I bought the 11.65 rear brake kit from FFR PN 14834. It came with 2 e- brake cables PN 14690. Like the front brakes I guess you have to swap left to right to keep bleeder up. Other than cables reaching I don't suppose there is any benefit functionally.

Maybe someone else can opine on this matter!

[esff32]

That's what I was thinking, I looked at the bleeder screws and they are pointing upward. I can't seem to find that part #. Lokar makes a universal fit one but I understand people have had problems with that also.

[hdnik]

I will be working on mine tomorrow nite and will take some pics. You can see if there are any differences between your set up and mine. Not sure if that'll help at all.

[esff32]

Thanks. I appreciate it.

[esff32]

I was commenting on Wallace18's build page that the oil filter may hit his EPS motor like it did on mine. He is also running a 351 windsor. I may have found a solution and I wanted to know if anyone has used this part before. It is a Ford Racing 90 degree adapter part # M-6880-A50. According to Summit, it is compatible with my '69 year block. My thought is if I point it toward the front of the car with a short filter, it should work. I would rather not use a filter reclocation adapter. If anyone has any thoughts, I would greatly appreciate it.

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[ehansen007]

They also make a shorty oil filter too that will work. Evan, you are flying man. Money held me up too. But look at it this way, you don't want to blow through it either. It's too much fun.

[esff32]

Do you happen to know what brand. I have looked at a couple short filters and have not been able to find something that will work. The filter needs to be no taller than 4". I'm addicted to buying parts, it's like Christmas all year! I may need your help on tackling the electrical. Remember Erik... Electrical assistance = Booze for you. :p

On another note, do you know what steering wheel hub adapter application the hotrod uses. I put a seat in the car and it as I suspected, the steering wheel is too close to me. I need to get a short hub. I'm sure NRG has something.

[Olli]

As I mentioned in the other thread, WIX 51311 (Napa 1311). The 51311 has a published height of 3.372" and the Purolator L17019 has a published height of 3.25". FFR actually mentions the L17019 in the manual. All of those filters are easy to buy. I use the WIX 51311 and keep a few on the shelf. You can see how it fits in the 4th picture that I posted earlier in the thread.

Olli

[esff32]

Thanks Olli. I had a hard time finding the dimensions but after a little more research, I was able to find it. Hopefully one of those will work.

[esff32]

I haven't quite finished plumbing the rear brakes because I am not sure if the body will rub on the brake line where I ran it. I am holding it on with clecos until I have an opportunity to test fit the body. In the meantime, I was wondering if anyone has a photo of this area on their '33 so I can see if I need to re-plumb it. I know the manual says to keep the line inside that angled square tubing because the wheel well area is close. I'm not sure why i didn't turn it inward before the vertical tube but apparently I had a synapse collapse perhaps. :) Any help would be great.

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[hdnik]

I will be working on mine tomorrow nite and will take some pics. You can see if there are any differences between your set up and mine. Not sure if that'll help at all.

Evan. Rather than me posting here, go to the last post on my build page to view the rear end and brake brackets from my 8.8 here... http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showthread.php?8804-Nick-s-Build-Page-(Canadian-33-)

[esff32]

Will do. Thanks.

[hdnik]

As I mentioned in the other thread, WIX 51311 (Napa 1311). The 51311 has a published height of 3.372" and the Purolator L17019 has a published height of 3.25". FFR actually mentions the L17019 in the manual. All of those filters are easy to buy. I use the WIX 51311 and keep a few on the shelf. You can see how it fits in the 4th picture that I posted earlier in the thread.

Olli

15300

WIX - Oil Filter
Part # 51311

Product Details Compatibility
WIX - Oil Filter
Part Number: 51311
Line: WIX
1 Year Limited Warranty
UPC: 765809513112
Detailed Description
Style: Spin-On Lube Filter
Service: Lube
Type: Full Flow
Media: Paper
Height: 3.372 in.
Outside Diameter (Top): 3.661 in.
Micron Rating: 19
Thread Size: 3/4-16
By-Pass Valve Setting (PSI): 16
Anti-Drain Back Valve: Yes
Beta Ratio: 2/20=8/21
Burst Pressure (PSI): 331
Max Flow Rate: 7-9 GPM

Gasket Diameters

Outside Diameter: 2.834 in.
Inside Diameter: 2.462 in.
Thickness: 0.200 in.

[esff32]

Thanks for the details. I will have to pick one up and give it a try.

[esff32]

I mounted the radiator and grill this afternoon however I cannot figure out how the overflow tank mounts up to it. The manual has an exploded view of it however it does not give detail and it is a poor quality photocopy (blurry). It looks like it lines up with the tabs that mount the fan to the radiator but it the lock nuts hit the fan. I would appreciate it if someone could send me a few detailed pics of how it mounts.

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[hdnik]

Looking great Evan. Wish I could help you on this question... Rest assured I'll be goin' to school on the reply you get.

[Tony Zullo]

HI Evan if you put it on the side of the radiator it really looks out of place , i had put it on the fire wall looked realy good!!
Tony@ffr

[ehansen007]

Your Honor, I'd like that last remark stricken from the record! :p haha just kidding Tony. I think a clean firewall looks better and when the expansion on the side of the radiator, it looks the part of the cooling system and it's all in one place. Just my opinion. Give me a call Evan and I'll let you know how it fits.

[esff32]

I will give you a call later today Erik. Also did you happen see the earlier photo of the 60" brake line going toward the rear end? In your opinion, is it going to hit the body? I haven't had help available to test fit the body to check. I don't want to permanently attach it until I verify it won't hit.

[esff32]

I mounted the radiator and grill a few days ago. Its starting to look like a car.

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[wallace18]

Great job so far. It is looking great.

[Arrowhead]

Your really making some progress. Funny, I think we are so used to the crooked grill, we forget how nice it looks when straight like yours.


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[esff32]

It went in very easy. I read a bunch of the other posts and saw how much of a pain in the *** it was. Even the brackets were aligned perfect with the edge of the grill.

[Tony Zullo]

Hi Evan looks killer you'll be do doing burnouts before you know it !! Tony@ffr

[esff32]

Thanks Tony. It will be awful tempting until I recall how much the tires cost. ;)

[wallace18]

Boy this picture sure did help me. I thought I was missing stuff from the pictures in the manual and PDF. I had to modify mine the hole were not deep enough to use the bolts supplied. Thanks for the great photos.


Updated clutch quadrant mechanism

http://i1288.photobucket.com/albums/b481/esff32/Factory%20Five%2033%20Build/image-1_zps94822977.jpg

[hdnik]

I too have had questions answered by referring to Evans and many other pics on this site . Just great guys. Loving this project.

[esff32]

Thanks guys. It took a call to Tony at FFR to put me on track with the clutch quadrant. It was a head scratcher for sure. I installed the stop however I'm not sure it is necessary considering it has a quasi-stop built in. Also, be careful with the clutch bracket locating template supplied in the manual. I put mine on the firewall and transferred the holes not really thinking it would be off. My clutch cable rides slightly crooked through the bracket. I dont think it will be an issue but i wish i would have double checked the alignment prior to drilling all the holes. The firewall has a crazy amount of flex. I read in many other posts about this issue and the body is supposed to limit this but i will probably fabricate a brace for added support. I may also go to a hydraulic clutch in the future. Here is a photo.

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[esff32]

After a couple weeks of down time on the car, I had a chance to tackle some of the projects on the car with my buddy Dan. We started off by test fitting the body to see if there were going to be clearance issues with how I ran the brake lines and it appears that there is plenty of room. He helped start some of the wiring on the motor and removing the plastic loom for some nicer looking braided style. There are a lot of wires that I will not be using however I am leaving them coiled up behind the dash. I am just about finished plumbing the rear brake lines (finally). The Speedhut gauges are very nicely packaged and organized. The sending units are weather tight and are nice quality.

I have been been getting some shipments lately. I got my shift lever and knob, drivers seat slides from FFR, and my switches. The fuel pump and regulator I originally purchased wasn't going to work so I returned it for another, so I'm waiting for that to get here so I can work on the fuel system. Here are some pics of the progress and I will post some of the switches tomorrow.

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[esff32]

Here are a few pics of the switches I am going with for the build. They are made by Joes Racing and come partially pre-wired.

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[maczter]

Like the switches, a style I have not seen in these cars, original! Also like the wire wrap, can you share some details on it?

[esff32]

I hate overpaying for stuff like wire loom, extra wire, sound deadening material etc.. I found this stuff on Amazon and saved a few $, because I would rather spend more of my budget on other parts. The manufacture of the product is Techflex. I purchased 1/8", 1/4", 3/8", and 1/2". I unfortunately didn't pay attention to the fact that the 1/8" and 1/4" are not split loom but I made it work. It looks much nicer than the plastic style Ron Francis uses.

[esff32]

A couple more progress pics.

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[wallace18]

Looks great! It is a race rod for sure. Keep up the great posts.

[ehansen007]

I made a flex bracket for the firewall but the idea is that mounting the body will eliminate it. Still, if you don't get something, it will bend during go kart testing. I left mine in but it looks like I'll have to remove it to put in my new clutch clutch quadrant parts.

http://i897.photobucket.com/albums/ac177/ehansen007/IMG_1543.jpg

[esff32]

I was going to try and put something similar to that on mine. It may work with the new clutch quadrant if it mounts a little higher on the inside of the firewall. The angle would be steeper but should work. Thanks for the pic.

[sheephearder]

Mine isn't pretty but very strong. Does not move.....period! Will be painted before the body goes on for the last time.15783

[esff32]

Hey, it works...you won't even see it. In my mind, I think it really should have the added support and not rely on the body alone to resist the flex. Thanks for the pic.

[esff32]

Well... It has been slow going on the '33 lately with a 2 mos. old baby at home but I was able to get a few hours today with the help of my lovely wife. I picked up my pulleys from Allistair at Millerspeed and they are impressive. I also went with his alternator bracket and a Powermaster alternator. It went on so easily I thought I was doing something wrong. I'm waiting to put the crank pulley on until I get my rockers adjusted.

I also started fabricating a brace for the firewall to limit the flex. It isn't any easy task due to the fact that there are a lot variables to consider, i.e. body, clutch quadrant, bolting location, etc. I will post pics when it is done.

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[hdnik]

Looking good Evan. I'm on hold until I go to the build school and some parts I've ordered arrive. I envy you guys Us residents... Getting stuff up here takes forever sometimes.

[esff32]

Have fun in the build school, that would definetly help the process along. I was very lucky, the only two parts on back order on my kit were the front shocks and clutch quadrant and they came about a week after the kit.

[maczter]

I hate overpaying for stuff like wire loom, extra wire, sound deadening material etc.. I found this stuff on Amazon and saved a few $, because I would rather spend more of my budget on other parts. The manufacture of the product is Techflex. I purchased 1/8", 1/4", 3/8", and 1/2". I unfortunately didn't pay attention to the fact that the 1/8" and 1/4" are not split loom but I made it work. It looks much nicer than the plastic style Ron Francis uses.

Do you mind me asking how much of each length you bought? Was it enough? Too much?

[esff32]

I think I got about 50' of each which was how it was sold. I am only replacing the stuff you can see from under the car and in places like the engine compartment. I am not that far into the electrical aspect of the project to know if I got enough... I sure as hell hope so. I will keep you informed as to whether one size or another is better.

[Vman7]

Starting to look really good! Thanks for posting detailed pictures :)

[esff32]

Thanks Vman7. I fabricated a support bracket to help keep the firewall from flexing and this is what I came up with. I may have to notch the flange of the body near the firewall a bit but we will see. The firewall doesn't move at all, I think it will do the trick...especially the way I plan on driving it. ;)

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[wallace18]

Good looking bracket. Nice work.

[esff32]

Thanks Wallace, I stole the idea from Erik from 33 Machine.

[hdnik]

Evan, I was looking at your photobucket pics and noticed an engine tranny stand you have. Did you amaze it or buy it. If so where did you get it.

[esff32]

I borrowed it from a buddy of mine. I believe it is a Harbor Freight job. 500 lb capacity if I remember right.

[esff32]

I finally had some time to work on the car and I recieved a package from Jegs with all my fuel system AN fittings. Here are a few pics.

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[esff32]

My good buddy Dan came over again to help me tackle the electrical... I was feeling a little overwhelmed. I haven't had any time to work on the car with a 4 mos. baby boy at home so I wanted to make the most of our time. I fabricated a bracket to hold the Painless aux fuse panel and mounted it in a similar fashion as tHE Ron Francis one. Dan wired up my switch panel including the push button start. We left a lot of slack in the harnesses because I'm not sure if i will mount forward of the shifter or behind.

I also finished up the fuel line going from the regulator to the carb. I still need to wire up the gauges and the battery cutoff switch. Here are a few pics.

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[ehansen007]

Looking good man. I wasn't aware you went with the single pumper carb. Think it will be enough? I'm glad you found someone to help you with the electrical.

e

[esff32]

The carb came with the entire drivetrain I bought from Scott Fraser. I will probably go with something different later. It ran on the test stand with the current setup and produced 400 HP with 400 ft lbs of torque?? Good to hear from you bro.

[esff32]

Continued some of the wiring with my buddy and was able to get the exhaust mocked up and mounted. I hope I'm not gonna have problems with the mufflers blowing out and having to redo everything, like others have, but it went in okay. I am going to fabricate my own side exit exhaust tips, not a big fan of the round tubes. The gauges are wired up and we were able to remove quite a bit of the unused dash harness wires. We rewired it using the plugs for ease of disassembly. Still have some wires to run for the cutoff switch and stereo etc..

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[wallace18]

Looks like your project is coming along fine. I use the same blankets on my build. Great job so far!

[esff32]

Thank you sir, just plugging away whenever I have time. Cant wait to see yours after you get it back from the body shop. Take care.

[esff32]

Once again, finally found a bit of time to work on the '33. We finished the battery cables minus the jumper posts I am going to add. I decided to upgrade to 2/0 cable... Hindsight Im not sure it was necessary but its done now. Installed the last of the brake lines in the rear so I should be able to bleed them now. We ran a harness for the stereo and speakers. I mounted the battery cutoff switch behind the passenger seat and I like the way it is somewhat inconspicuous.

Once i do a final adjustment on the rocker arms, i should be very close to firing it up. My rear wheels still have not come in. I ordered them in January and they keep pushing back the delivery date one month at a time, so now its August. Here are a few progress pics.

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[Boz1911]

Awesome build and some very helpful pics. Have you had two different master cylinder reservoirs?

[maczter]

My good buddy Dan came over again to help me tackle the electrical... I was feeling a little overwhelmed. I haven't had any time to work on the car with a 4 mos. baby boy at home so I wanted to make the most of our time. I fabricated a bracket to hold the Painless aux fuse panel and mounted it in a similar fashion as tHE Ron Francis one. Dan wired up my switch panel including the push button start. We left a lot of slack in the harnesses because I'm not sure if i will mount forward of the shifter or behind.

I also finished up the fuel line going from the regulator to the carb. I still need to wire up the gauges and the battery cutoff switch. Here are a few pics.

http://i1288.photobucket.com/albums/b481/esff32/Factory%20Five%2033%20Build/0eb1caf31a07a5e68a685a25d39206ea_zps6586d167.jpg

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Does you buddy Dan make road trips to help out others...lol. I am tackling mine now.

[esff32]

Does you buddy Dan make road trips to help out others...lol. I am tackling mine now.

Maybe if you say pretty please or just buy the beer... He just might. Lol. He told me to not get my hopes up, it only works in theory at this point. I will hold up on the kudos until i fire it up and test it. ��

[esff32]

Awesome build and some very helpful pics. Have you had two different master cylinder reservoirs?

No Boz1911, the earlier kits came with two but FFR switched to a single. It's just T'd below it, i guess its plenty of reserve fluid for the system to operate efficiently. I haven't heard of anyone having issues with the single to this point, maybe someone has some better info with regards to the single vs. the dual.

[esff32]

I managed to make some progress on the build over the last week or so. I coated the bottom side of the floor panels with a rubber undercoat spray and started to rivet them down. Like others have done, I decided to cut the front toe kick area off the floorboard so it was easier to install and then riveted it separately.

I also fabricated some heat shields that I installed between the mufflers and the floor panels. I also finished mounting the fuel lines.

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[Boz1911]

I like the heat shields, nice work. I was planning on using some heat shield mat but it being glued on I have a concern with it coming off. I'm still waiting on my mufflers and front pipes to finish under the car then I can start finalizing the interior installation. I think I'll cut the kick panels also.

[esff32]

Thanks Boz, Erik did the same thing. Those mufflers are very close to the floor boards. I painted the muffler side of the shield with a high temp. engine paint and sparyed the rubber undercoat on the top side. Hopefully it doesnt melt it off. Cutting the kick panels was definetly the right move considering how many times you have to take them in and out.

[ehansen007]

Hey Evan, yeah it could melt off. You want a reflective material for heat and light and a rubberized surface for sound. I guess we'll see. Which coating did you use? Evercoat or the Pepboys tar stuff?

[esff32]

I used the rust oleum stuff. Maybe i should have left them uncoated. We will see, i wonder if i should have them powder coated or some other type of coating.

[ehansen007]

They're so easy to make, I'd just make another set, leave them uncoated or polish them and be done. :)

[Robert Andrew]

There are two really good products for sound and heat control, which spray on, and are far superior to undercoating, and will not melt off, like a rubber or tar based coatings. Lizard Skin Ceramic Insulation and Lizard Skin Sound Control. Summit, Eastwood, and Southern Hot Rods all carry them, and the gun to shoot them on with. I'm not familiar with the technical specifications for the Ceramic Insulation, but I suspect that it is not recommended for really high heat applications, such as directly applied to exhaust systems. Ceramic coatings like the ones used on exhaust headers, make a dramatic reduction in radiated heat from headers and exhaust pipes, so that may be a possible solution.

[tcarlson]

Awesome build! Thanks for sharing! :)

[esff32]

Thanks Robert, i may have the heat shields sprayed with a ceramic powder coating and then reinstall them. It seems to me there is a huge issue with heat in these cars, therefore i may even wrap the mufflers with header wrap. I spoke to Tony Zullo and he really recommends sound and heat deadening on the backside of the firewall. So, i think i will spend some extra time with the insulation process.

Thanks tcarlson, i appreciate it. It feels good to get back out there and work on it.

[wallace18]

Thanks Robert, i may have the heat shields sprayed with a ceramic powder coating and then reinstall them. It seems to me there is a huge issue with heat in these cars, therefore i may even wrap the mufflers with header wrap. I spoke to Tony Zullo and he really recommends sound and heat deadening on the backside of the firewall. So, i think i will spend some extra time with the insulation process.

Thanks tcarlson, i appreciate it. It feels good to get back out there and work on it.

I second the front firewall insulation. I have more heat from there than the floor. I used lizard skin and thermocoustic insulation .

[esff32]

You used the lizard skin on the backside of the firewall? Spray or roll on before installing the firewall or after installed?

[wallace18]

You used the lizard skin on the backside of the firewall? Spray or roll on before installing the firewall or after installed?

On the firewall I used Eastwood thermocoustic sheets. I used lizard skin on every thing else. I only used lizard skin on stuff that will be exposed to the elements. I used the eastwood stuff on the interior stuff.

[esff32]

Thanks. I'm doing the same. I picked up a couple of boxes of the Stinger brand. It seems to be nice stuff and got good reviews. Hopefully it's easy to work with.

[hdnik]

You used the lizard skin on the backside of the firewall? Spray or roll on before installing the firewall or after installed?

Both lizard skin sound then ceramic sprayed on before installation. Will add some stick on insulation under kootenai valley sub floor then fat mat and carpet. Cant think of how i could do more for heat and sound.

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[esff32]

Thanks Nick, hindsight being 20/20, i should have sprayed some on before installing the firewall. Thats okay, I will cut and apply them in place. End result will be the same, just a little more tedious. Your build is looking great.

[esff32]

Made some progress on the build over the weekend. The throttle pedal and cable are installed. I made a 1" spacer to bring the pedal closer to me. I also installed the 33 machine hitch setup, don't think i will be towing anything but it gives me a really nice place to put the license plate. I elected to bolt the braces in because it firmed it up enough to hopefully give the fiberglass body a little protection in case someone bumps the rear end. I will be making some rocker arm adjustments this weekend. When i purchased the motor and trans setup, i pulled a valve cover and noticed one of the rocker arms was loosened and turned sideways off the pushrod, good thing i didnt fire the motor up before checking. So I am just going to check the adjustment of all of them.

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[wallace18]

Good catch on the rockers. You saved yourself some headaches for sure.

[esff32]

Thanks Wallace, you aren't kidding. Hope to have a "firing party" soon. :p

[Boz1911]

Make sure you have a celebratory drink on me handy when you fire her up. All I had was some cheap champagne handy..........

[esff32]

I will have two for ya brother, haha.:D

[ehansen007]

I owe you a hat and a roll bar. I haven't forgotten. You are just so far off the path for me it's crazy. :)

[esff32]

A buddy of mine came over and helped me adjust the rockers today. I also unfortunately ended up buying the updated transmission tunnel. The older style tunnel I received with the kit was an absolute nightmare, so I am in the process of installing that.

My rear wheels finally came after waiting for them since January 23rd. They are 19x10.75 and after fitting them on the hub, I'm a little worried that they may be close to the body. I have only temporarily test fit the body once and cannot remember how close the body sits in that area. I may have to get spacers and longer studs if it becomes a problem once I put the body on.

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[hdnik]

Our kits are about the same age. Whats the new tunnel look like?

[esff32]

This is a picture of Boz's installed. I had to cut a tremendous amount out of the older style one and they don't include the sheet metal to reform it around the throttle pedal as shown in the manual. After talking to Tony Zullo, he said he had a hell of a time getting his to fit as well. Even after cutting a bunch of material out, the tunnel would not sit flat on the floor around the area if the drive shaft hoop. I've already installed the main tunnel and it fits much better. I think it shouldn't be a problem with clearance around the throttle pedal.

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[Boz1911]

The wheels look great. I'm running a 20x10 on the rear and clearance is not an issue. To get a reference the body mount tab is by the upper shock mount. Add the width of the fiberglass and the small spacer and you'll have a good idea of your clearance. I don't remember exactly but the backspace on my wheels are 5 and 3/4 +/- a 1/4 inch.

[esff32]

Thanks Boz, I will double check my back spacing but i believe it is +20mm. Thanks again for the help.

[Boz1911]

Thanks Boz, I will double check my back spacing but i believe it is +20mm. Thanks again for the help.

What size tires are you going to use?

[esff32]

The rears are 305/30R 19. Toyo Proxes R888. I've been thinking more about the wheels and tires and figured I will use spacers and longer studs if I have to. I really like the wheels and don't want to start all over trying to find a wheel I like. Hopefully they won't rub. I will cross my fingers. :rolleyes:

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[Boz1911]

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Just my opinion of course, but looking at the body mount in this pic, you're probably okay with clearance.

[esff32]

Thanks for the help Boz, I think I'll just mount the tires and see how the clearance is once I put the body back on.

[Boz1911]

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Took this pic of mine this afternoon so you could see where the body ends up. With the 305 width and the width of your wheel there won't be much tire outside the edge of the wheel. And with 30 percent profile doubt you need much clearance, won't have any bulge (or give -lol) when you hit a bump.

[esff32]

Thanks for the pic, I'm going to have the tires mounted tomorrow and see what happens. Dont know when I can get some help to throw the body on but we will see. I got the tansmission tunnel held in place with some clecos but it is very close to my foot when its on the throttle pedal, it will have to work. I'm also going to take my heat shields I made for my mufflers and have them ceramic coated tomorrow.

[wallace18]

Thanks for the pic, I'm going to have the tires mounted tomorrow and see what happens. Dont know when I can get some help to throw the body on but we will see. I got the tansmission tunnel held in place with some clecos but it is very close to my foot when its on the throttle pedal, it will have to work. I'm also going to take my heat shields I made for my mufflers and have them ceramic coated tomorrow.

I had the new style tunnel, but still cut and installed alum to give more gas pedal room. I have size 12 feet. LOL.

[hdnik]

Evan, I gotta know. How is it you get your pictures to load full sized on your thread entries?

[esff32]

Hey Nick, if you download the Photobucket app on your device and upload them there, I have found that it is much easier to manage the photos. After you upload them into an album there, you copy and paste the img code and paste it in the quick reply window when updating your build it should show up full size. Hope this helps, if not feel free to hit me up again with more questions.

Wallace, i contemplated doing the same and only have size 8. I will just drive barefoot. :rolleyes:

[esff32]

Here are the tires mounted. The tire is about an 1 3/4" to the angled 1 1/2" frame member.

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[Boz1911]

Wheels look awesome!!

[esff32]

Thanks Boz!

[esff32]

Finally got the transmission tunnel mocked up in the car. Although it fit better than the other one, it kicked my butt...Trying to make enough room for the gas pedal, creating space for the wires, and keeping room for the e-brake. The tunnel still has a small gap around the sheet metal that goes over the drive shaft hoop. Anyway its in, now move on the the riv-nuts and bolt it in.

On another note, I dropped off my heat shields at fhe powder coater to have them ceramic coated. Hopefully that will help with the heat transfer.

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[Boz1911]

Very nice. For the wiring harness holes I just split some vacuum hose then siliconed it in place with black RTV.

[esff32]

Thanks for the encouraging words Boz, thats a good idea.

[ehansen007]

I love this build for many reasons but really it's like watching myself build my car again only doing it way better. Seriously, I had the priveledge of seeing this car in person and it's so clean and So awesome. keep it up bud!

[esff32]

Thanks Erik, coming from you that means a lot. I will put the invite out there for the local guys when I am ready to fire it up. Beers are on me.

[esff32]

Got the car off the jack stands and sitting on its own feet. I was able to get the ebrake working and had to make some longer arms in order to clear the bracket. I also bled the brakes and it went strangely well. My buddy Dan hopefully is going to pay a visit in a couple of weeks and we can make sure all the wiring is in order before firing it up. I also got the heat shields back from being ceramic coated, hopefully that will help deflect some of that heat under my a**. :cool:

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[H R Lucky]

Your Hot Rod is looking good Evan, sounds like you will be firing it up soon.
What exactly did you have to lengthen on the e-brake to get it to work?
thanks,
Nevin

[SoulsofBlack]

Looks good... But what rims are those?

[esff32]

Your Hot Rod is looking good Evan, sounds like you will be firing it up soon.
What exactly did you have to lengthen on the e-brake to get it to work?
thanks,
Nevin

Thanks Nevin, i lengthened the arms of the ebrake that the clevis attaches to. Here is a photo that gave me the idea, it is someone else's car.

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[esff32]

Looks good... But what rims are those?

Thank you very much, the wheels are XXR 530. 18x9.75 front and 19x10.75 rear.

[esff32]

We accomplished a bunch a stuff today. My buddy Dan came over and we went through the electrical system and hooked up the headlights and tested the functionality of the gauges etc.. I hooked up the coolant lines and put the Millerspeed pulleys and belt on. A few days ago I put oil in the motor and checked to see if I was getting oil up to the rockers and we have success. I also put some copper crush washers on the master cylinders and I will check for leaks in the morning. We test fit the body and the rear wheels have plenty of clearance. Hopefully it will finally run soon. Here are a few progress pics.

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[wallace18]

Wow! those gauges are awesome! Very cool!

[esff32]

Wow! those gauges are awesome! Very cool!

Thanks Wallace, it's starting to come together.

[esff32]

Finally got to the point of starting the hotrod. I have a few issues to work out with regards to electrical etc but it fired right up. I definitely had fiberglass all over the garage from the **** mufflers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=go2sMzobgy8

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[kraftee]

Congratulations! I am jealous. But the new long block arrives Monday and I hope to have her running by Thanksgiving!

[esff32]

Thanks Eric, you will be back up and running in no time. Its part of the journey i guess...:rolleyes:

[ehansen007]

So awesome. I remember that day so long ago....Can't wait to ride in it! BTW, nice hat!

[esff32]

Thanks bro, it's my new favorite hat...:cool:

[crspdsk8]

Congrats on your first start! I enjoy following your progress and hopefully will get to that point soon. Thanks for sharing your pics of how you ran your brake lines! It really helped me out and I plan on running my lines the same way as it seems to the cleanest and most straight forward. Thanks and good luck with the rest of the build!

[esff32]

Congrats on your first start! I enjoy following your progress and hopefully will get to that point soon. Thanks for sharing your pics of how you ran your brake lines! It really helped me out and I plan on running my lines the same way as it seems to the cleanest and most straight forward. Thanks and good luck with the rest of the build!

Thanks for the kind words and no problem... If you need any other photos you can think of just shout. December 23rd will be a year since the kit was delivered, so I am excited to be at this point. I can't wait to go-kart it around a bit, I'm shooting for Thanksgiving day... Nothing like the smell of turkey and burnt rubber. :rolleyes:

[esff32]

Congrats on your first start! I enjoy following your progress and hopefully will get to that point soon. Thanks for sharing your pics of how you ran your brake lines! It really helped me out and I plan on running my lines the same way as it seems to the cleanest and most straight forward. Thanks and good luck with the rest of the build!

Thanks for the kind words and no problem... If you need any other photos you can think of just shout. One note on the second pic, keep the lines a bit further away from the firewall as the body tucks right up against it. This was pointed out to me regarding their location. I bent them further in order to create room.

December 23rd will be a year since the kit was delivered, so I am excited to be at this point. I can't wait to go-kart it around a bit, I'm shooting for Thanksgiving day... Nothing like the smell of turkey and burnt rubber. :rolleyes:

[Boz1911]

Congrats! Looking awesome. You going to video the go kart ride? I've been doing body work lately, time consuming and boring. . Gotta take a break though and do something mechanical.

[esff32]

Thanks Boz, i do hope to video it. I'm quickly realizing that I am probably going to have to learn how to do bodywork...I dont think I will have the kind of cash flow required to have someone else do it.

[esff32]

Despite some of the small issues I've been running into, I managed to go-cart it for the first time. The dialogue is pretty funny…my buddy trying to be the responsible one. Anyway, enjoy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TiP-_kqnOgI

[crspdsk8]

Despite some of the small issues I've been running into, I managed to go-cart it for the first time. The dialogue is pretty funny…my buddy trying to be the responsible one. Anyway, enjoy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TiP-_kqnOgI
Congrats Evan!

[rcotner]

Evan, what a great video! You are an inspiration. At the rate I am going actually driving the thing seems a long way off. Good job!!

[esff32]

Thanks guys, I appreciate it. It definitely is a great feeling. Just keep chipping away at it. I was moving at a faster pace but had to slow down after our son was born. I just started working on it an hour here and there. Having said that, I have much more to do. Still need to work out some of the nagging problems like the stupid leaking master cylinders. :rolleyes:

[Boz1911]

Congrats!! Very cool driving a car that you built. I've been attacking some of those little problems but mostly filling and sanding the body. I swear there's more work to do on the top than the rest of the car. Working on some bracing for under the trunk panel, it latches perfectly when I reach under and support the floor. Also chasing a minor oil leak, at first I thought it was the oil pan but today I realized it was the rear of the intake manifold. I knew I didn't use enough silicone, dammit.

[esff32]

Thats frustrating! I hate leaks of any kind. I was wondering what happened to you, haven't seen any updated photos lately. I will have to pick your brain about your experience with the body work. I'm not very experienced with that aspect of the build. I'm still dealing with the leaks on the master cylinders. I also need to change over the steering rack bracket to the updated one. Which bracket do you have and could you snap a close up photo of it?

[Boz1911]

Not sure which bracket mine has but I'll get a photo for you. I figured pics of body filler and sanded panels weren't worth posting. After sanding all the seams I went over them with filler then sanded that off. I'm doing all the seams with glaze now. Biggest problem is I can't really sand in the mornings before work. I used to do a lot of painting on RC airplanes so I figured this was just a larger project. Worst case if it turns out bad I'll load it up and take it to someone to paint. I'm also changing to anti bump steer setup on the front. One other problem I have is there is no one to help me take the top on and off so I am going to install a electric hoist like Tom did to help make that task easier.
I don't mind popping the intake off, it's easier than the oil pan. I would have found it sooner but the oil is so clean I didn't see it until yesterday.

[wallace18]

Congrats on the go cart. Engine sounds great!

[esff32]

Congrats on the go cart. Engine sounds great!

Thank you Sir, I appreciate that...much more work to do.

[esff32]

Thanks for the update Boz. I will probably try to tackle the body myself as well...have to learn somehow. I just got the updated bracket from FF but I dont think its going to work. The bracket where it mounts to the rack is a larger diameter and there would be a ton of slop in it and it would be worse than it is now. I need to put a call into them to find out where to go from here.

[esff32]

Build update: my friend Dan came over today and tied up some loose ends with regards to the wiring. The cooling fan is working with the switch and fan Thermo switch, the red aircraft style switch now kills the motor. With some further investigation, it seems as though my Speedhut fuel gauge is not working properly so I am sending it back for them to figure out whats wrong with it.

My 3rd link was not perfectly lined up with the banana bracket because the rear end vent was in the way. I removed the vent and threaded a flush allen plug in the hole and sanded it smooth with the axle tube. The bracket is now on top of the previous vent location. I will probably spring for a Ford racing diff cover and I will drill and tap a vent port at the top. I also welded the bracket to the axle housing, hopefully I got enough penetration on it...I was afraid of blowing through. That would be a bad day. :rolleyes:

Up next: To deal with the slop in the steering rack it was FF's recommendation to put a spacer behind the "sway bar style" bushing on the rack which will allow the bolts going through the Delrin bushing to draw the rack tighter to the frame. Apparently I have the older style rack and cannot use the updated bracket, it's the wrong size.

The other order of business is to disassemble the front suspension to replace the lower ball joint dust boots that were already cracked, ugh! That ought to be fun trying to do that without destroying the powdercoat. Oh yeah, and I'm still dealing with master cylinders that leak, so annoying. I'm about to spend another $50 to replace the fittings. Good times!

[Silent T]

Looking and sounding very nice!

I too had to remove my lower ball joints after torque'n em down because I had put them on backwards the first time!
I did not want to mess up all the new boots, joints and powder coating with a fork so I found a socket that fit perfectly between the the upper and lower ball joint nuts. I removed the lower nut and put it back upside down and used it to "push" against the socket and separate carefully. With some tapping on the arm with a mallet while I cranked on the nut - POP!
Worked like a charm.

By the way - I have the rubber o-ring style fittings on my masters with no leaks so far. I also used them on a hydraulic clutch setup on another build that never had a problem. I never thought of the rubber degradation with brake fluid because the kits all use rubber brake hoses to feed the master from the reservoir.

Good luck

[esff32]

Thanks Silent T, I appreciate the help. I just ordered the -4 or 7/16" Earls Stat-o-seals for the banjo bolts. After speaking to Earls, they said they aren't designed for banjo bolts but others have had good luck with them. At this point I am willing to try anything. Thanks for the kind words regarding the build, I truly appreciate that.

[esff32]

Well, success! The stat-o-seals worked and the leak has stopped. :rolleyes: I replaced the lower ball joint dust boots and got everything put back together. I made a much needed purchase from Summit, Ford Racing rear diff cover, Lizardskin, etc.. I took the car for a short joyride down a couple of streets and man am I going to love driving this car. I also installed a NRG quick release. It puts the steering wheel a little closer to me than I would like but it will help when auto crossing and help limit arm fatigue. I think its just going to take some getting used to.

Time to move onto the body and sound deadening.

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[Boz1911]

Very cool, glad you got the leak repaired. I spent most of yesterday reinforcing the trunk area, both the body and the trunk floor. Finally got enough flex out of everything to get the latch to work perfectly now.

[esff32]

Nice Boz! I will be hitting you up with some questions in the near future regarding the installation of the body. I talked to Tony Zullo a bit about it and he gave me some pointers but I am sure I will have many more questions. I would like to see pics of the reinforcements you have done. Happy Holidays.

[H R Lucky]

Evan,
Congratulations on getting to go-cart your Hot Rod, it sounds great, it must be a good feeling.
Sorry for the belated response to this, I have been out in the woods hunting for the past 2 months (no internet)

Merry Christmas to you and yours,
Nevin

[esff32]

Thank you Nevin. Merry Christmas to you and your family as well. Looking forward to your progress pics.

[esff32]

Santa swung by Summit and dropped off a few early Christmas gifts. I installed a Ford Racing rear differential cover. I had to plug the vent in the axle tube because it was in the way of the 3rd link banana bracket so I put a vent in the fill port. Hopefully its high enough that the gear oil won't work its way out. I installed some wire separators but a couple of the wires were a bit short so I made due. I may get an MSD distributor and new wires in the future so I can custom cut the length.

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[Boz1911]

I know you have one of Eric's hitches, please tell me it's not blocking the view of that sweet looking cover. Similar looms that I have, tedious to install but actually makes removing the wires later on quite easy. I will probably make a different set of wires later on. What brand of headers are you running?

[esff32]

Haha, Boz! Unfortunately I will probably have to lay down underneath it to admire it. I have the ceramic coated BBK shorties. I can find the part # if you need it.

[esff32]

Anyone see an immediate problem with the way I did the vent?

[frankeeski]

Anyone see an immediate problem with the way I did the vent?
Evan,
Only concern I have is you call it a fill port, tell me you didn't fill it to that level. The 8.8 and the 9" for that matter, have the fill plug on the front side of the case. The oil level should not be filled more than the front fill plug. The one you have in the cover is much higher and your vent should be fine as long as the oil is filled to the proper level.

[esff32]

Hahaha, no Frank. I just filled it from there and let it dribble out the port on the yoke side.

[esff32]

Well after almost a year from my delivery date, my '33 is ready for the body installation. I took it around the neighborhood a couple of times and man is this thing fast. I had a nice visit with "frankeeski" from the forum and Mark III owner today. We had a nice discussion and he gave me a lot of great tips and tricks, thanks Frank! It is also my dad's birthday today so it was nice spending quality time with him.

The body is just sitting on the frame and I didn't have a lot of time to work on it because the wife wanted some "family time". I'm just elated that it is on the car and it is starting to look like a car. The frame is sitting perfectly level and the body is perfectly level as well. Unless I'm missing something, it seems as though it is ready to be anchored as is. I need to sand down a couple of areas on the body where it is hitting the down tube near the firewall but other than that, it seems to fit pretty well.

I also notice some gear oil from the rear end coming out of the vent port I just installed. It needs a 90 degree fitting installed to raise it up some, simple fix.

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[H R Lucky]

Lookin good Evan!
I should be there in a couple of months.

Nevin

[esff32]

Thanks Nevin!

[ehansen007]

Those tires are so sick. Can't wait to see it on the road.

[ehansen007]

Weird. Thread reopened.

[esff32]

Thanks Erik!

[Boz1911]

Okay now I can say congrats on the body install. Looks like rear wheel clearance is okay. Nice Christmas present !!!

[esff32]

Thank you Boz! I hope its square enough. I measured in a bunch of locations and it seems as though it is. Hopefully the doors and trunk will fit well. It's the gift that keeps on giving for sure.

[rcotner]

I love those R888 tires! I have the same tires on my SVT Cobra. I think I will use the same on my '33. Have you driven on them before? They are incredibly sticky.

[esff32]

Only the few times that I have go-carted around the neighborhood. I like the look of the tread pattern and the sidewall. Hopefully they don't wear out prematurely...if you know what I mean.

[esff32]

Made a bit more progress on the '33 over the last few days. I cut the holes for the gauges and fabricated a panel that locates my headlight switch, gauge dimmer, and ignition switch hidden under the dash. It came out okay, would have been nicer if I used a sheet metal brake...eyeball engineering at its best. Since I was getting a bit of gear oil out of the vent in the cover, I installed an elbow. If it's still not high enough, I will put a nipple to raise it up more.

I also drilled and tapped the frame at the rockers to fasten the body. I started insulating the firewall, wish I would have done that prior to the electrical. The gas fill neck went in without a problem. Hopefully I can get the body reinstalled after spraying the under side with some Lizardskin. Then I need to finish installing the insulation to the rest of the interior.

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[frankeeski]

Great progress Evan!

[esff32]

Thanks Frank!

[esff32]

It was a very productive Friday. I managed to spray the Lizardskin sound deadener on the underside of the body, transmission tunnel, gas tank, and trunk sheet metal. The body is back on the car and the gauges are installed.

My question is, I took a measurement of the cabin space from the dash toward the rear as per the manual. I had 45.50" however after reinstalling it, I'm off by about 1/8". Does anyone see a problem with this? It's an 1/8" larger than before.

Up next, fit the doors and trunk, fit the windscreen, tidy up the wiring under dash, bolt the seats in, insulate the floors, etc. My mirrors are on the way from Finish Line. I haven't decided whether or not to use the seat slides or bolt the seats down. I can already tell I might need to sit a little higher due to the fact I am a strong 5'8" :rolleyes: My plan is to start the registration process prior to fitting the hard top and hood.

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[wolfhound]

Looking good ! I really enjoy following along

[esff32]

Looking good ! I really enjoy following along

Thank you very much for looking, I appreciate the kind words.

[wallace18]

As long as your doors fit Ok you should be good.

[esff32]

Thanks Wallace

[H R Lucky]

Your Hot Rod is coming along nice & is looking good Evan. It's good to know the lizard skin can be sprayed onto the fiberglass pieces also, I was wondering what product I could use for the under side of the body.
However, I won't be spraying anything for awhile, it was -2 degrees F here last night and we have 8 inches of snow on the ground.

Happy New Year,
Nevin

[esff32]

Thanks Nevin! The Lizardskin was so easy to use and easy to clean up. I only wish I would have used it on the underside of the floor aluminum.

Thats cold brother, its a little chilly here too...its gonna get down to 75 today. Sorry to poke fun. Stay warm and crank up those heaters in the garage and get to it.

Happy New Year and looking forward to seeing your progress.

Evan

[Barrel]

It's been great following your build Evan. I too used Lizard Skin but on both sides of all my aluminum panels except the firewall and footboxes. The 2 gallon cans of both SC and CI were enough to get it done. I then trimmed the excess off the edges with sharp blades and files and rattle canned a couple of coates of VHT gloss black engine enamel on them before assembly. I found the finish on the bare Lizard Skin to be a little powdery without the goss black top coat. The picture gives a good idea of how it turned out. You'll also see Tim Whittaker's clever rear deck adjuster, a pair of billet trunk hinges from Whitby's and the QA1's I have used in my build.
Cheers,
Neil.
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[esff32]

Very nicely done Neil. Looks great. I contemplated getting the rear deck adjuster. I test fit the trunk and it looks like it's not the same radius as the body so it definitely going to need a bit more attention. I know many others have had the same problem.

I tidied up the wiring under the dash, mounted the taillights, installed the fuel filler and hose to the tank.

[esff32]

Looking at other peoples center consoles made me explore how I wanted to lay out my console. After a lot of thought, I was having a hard time locating where I was going to put both sets of switch panels and still include all the elements of my design. I didn't want to put it on the dash for fear it would throw off the uniformity. Due to the fact that the aircraft style ignition needs to avoid getting accidentally shut off, I decided to put it on the dash anyway. After it was all said and done, its actually growing on me. Thoughts? The other nice part about the location is the access window it creates for the master cylinders.

I decided to order the Breeze seat slides/mounts and forego the ones I bought from FFR. I propped the front of the seat up 2" like the Breeze ones do and it was a lot more comfortable. It pushes my torso further from the steering wheel and it puts a natural bend in my legs which seems to be more comfortable.

Can anyone show me some detailed pictures of how you mounted your lower nose cone piece to the body/brackets and grill? The manual is a little vague or my mind is...one or the other. Again, thank you for the continued help fellas. Here are a few pics.

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[wallace18]

I used 10-32 screws to the rad shell and bolted the bottom to the body inside. You can see on my build thread.

[esff32]

Thank you Wallace, I will check it out.

[Boz1911]

Same here 10-32 button head bolt on the nose cone.

Evan all looks great, I wish you'd start doing some sanding though. Your car is way cleaner than mine........:cool:

[esff32]

Haha, I not looking forward to that process. As far as I can see in the manual, it doesn't really show if the nose cone gets bolted through that bracket on the side with the lower part of the body. I know they get fastened together but is it done through the bracket?

[Tim Whittaker]

The rear deck adjuster in Neils picture not only raises or lowers that rear deck but also adds stability. Without it, you can lift the panel or push it down a considerable distance.

Some have found that the nose cone fit can be easier if you split it down the middle and reglass. Mine was about 1/4" too wide and fit much better using this process. Dan Ruth was the first to post on this I believe.

[ehansen007]

Yes the nose gets bolted through that bracket. Fitting the nose takes a while and you're better off getting everything done including the hood and then put that piece on and trim to fit the bottom of the grill last.

[esff32]

Got it, thanks Erik.

[ehansen007]

You'll notice that it may take a bit of twisting to get the rear of the chin lined up to the body at that junction. If I remember I twisted and tightened and it was pretty straight. good news is that it's not that noticeable. I'll also see if I can send my extra skid rail for the chin when I send the valve cover bolts.

[esff32]

Good advice to set the hood and fit the bottom piece after. That would be great Erik, thank you!

[esff32]

Well....it's been a very frustarting 10 hours on the first door. I started the process following Erik's videos and cross referencing the manual and didn't have a problem with the hinge slot side of things. I'm using Tim Whitakers hinge slot covers and they are very nicely made and give a ton of room for adjustment and or error. :rolleyes:

It all changed when it came to the striker bolt and latch. The striker included in the kit is different than the earlier ones and do not have the Allen key slot in the end of it. Erik's video shows the striker bolt mounted through the body with the washer on the outside. The manual shows drilling out a 3/4" hole in the body and passing the striker bolt through. The striker bolt is mounted directly to the bracket that attaches to the body. I dont like this method due to the fact there needs to be an oblong hole in the body in order to adjust the striker. There isn't a washer on the outside to cover the hole. The striker bolt was hitting the door when it was mounted on the outside.

The bear claw latch is another story. The manual has provisions for yellow or clear nickel style latches. Erik's video uses the yellow and I have the clear. Based on where my striker was mounted, and the location the latch needed to mounted in the door, I had to notch out the door really far toward the inside in order to clear the bracket that holds the spring. I even ground it down as per the manual but it didn't make a difference. You can see in the picture, I had to cut out an entire piece of fiberglass out. I dont believe this will be a problem because the the door panel will cover it up.

After all is said and done, the door opens and closes and latches however you can see from the pics, the gap at the upper front is less than desirable. It seems as though the door skin itself needs to rotate counterclockwise about an 1/8" and the gap would be better. The gap toward the rear doesn't rub but could move toward the front. The body line in the rear is perfect. I would have to oblong the holes in the door for the latch mechanism to slide upward which in turn would lower the door.

Here are some pictures and if anyone has any ideas...I'm all ears.

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[Boz1911]

The doors have been my biggest PITA. I do plan on making some aluminum covers for the door strikers when all is done. The striker bolt bracket has vertical adjustment. My guess is you need to lower it some, then the adjustment process begins again...........and again, and again........

[wallace18]

I had to cut off the hex head on the striker on my 33 for it to work for me. I did the door gaps after I had the door mounted the way I wanted. I used 3/16" pin stripe masking tape on the edge to give me the gap. Then applied white marker paint. Then used a belt sander to shape the door. It worked good for me this way.

[Arrowhead]

I have the older style gold latches. The ones you have look like they install totally different, compared to mine yours look upside down (there is a left and right). As far as the door alignment, there are screw holes in the frame in the front and back, top and bottom to bolt the door shell to the frame. You can "twist" the door to line up better and lock it down with those screws (within reason) you might not get it perfect, but should be able to get it better. If you find it's that far off, your door could be defective and might warrant a replacement.

Those strikers do suck though, not sure why they changed them.

Also, make sure the front and rear of the body is secured in it's final resting place while doing your door alignment. The body is a wet noodle unless it's bolted down.

[esff32]

Thanks for the help guys, the body is bolted down permanently right now. The door is bolted to the bracket in the rear but not the front yet. I will try and make some adjustments once I get the other door on and hope I can get it a little bit better.

[ehansen007]

That striker is BS. I asked FFR and they said this method was easier but that hardware blows. You want a real striker not a hex bolt! Lame. Also, put a paint stick in the back door gap and I think you'll close the gap in the front in doing so. The rear is way to small right now from the looks of it.

[ehansen007]

Evan's probably fighting a 1700 acre fire not far from his home that three idiots started for the fun of it. Everyone wish him luck.

[Silent T]

I cut the striker bolt heads off and filed two flats on it so I could grab it with a 7/16 wrench. I mounted it with the washer over the body and bent the bracket behind to match the body curvature. it only sticks out about 3/4" total. much cleaner and neater. I'd take a picture but the body is off now.

Looks like your doors just need final sanding to fit. I made sure the body lines matched up and then sanded to fit. This caused the top of the doors to be low but easier to fix then moving the body "bulb" into alignment.

I used 1/4" tape to get the gaps consistant between the body and doors all around. I was able to do most of the sanding with the doors all mounted. Back is close to body but being carefull and slow its better than taking the doors off and on each time. The doors can be twisted slightly to fit flush but once you put on the weatherstripping it will help line up too.

Good Luck.

[esff32]

Evan's probably fighting a 1700 acre fire not far from his home that three idiots started for the fun of it. Everyone wish him luck.

Thanks for wishing me luck but I'm off duty today, it was a couple of miles from my house. It looked pretty impressive early this morning but they got a quick handle on it.

On another note, I did pick up my hitch at the powder coater and it is pretty square to the body. Now that its at ride height, I noticed that the braces cannot be used due to the fact they are about 1/4" from the four link mounts on the rear end. So hopefully it doesn't make noise when it moves up and down. I might look into another option for making it rigid.

Where can I find the thin masking tape you used on your doors to mark you trim lines? I called a bunch of hardware and craft stores today with no luck.

[esff32]

I cut the striker bolt heads off and filed two flats on it so I could grab it with a 7/16 wrench. I mounted it with the washer over the body and bent the bracket behind to match the body curvature. it only sticks out about 3/4" total. much cleaner and neater. I'd take a picture but the body is off now.

Looks like your doors just need final sanding to fit. I made sure the body lines matched up and then sanded to fit. This caused the top of the doors to be low but easier to fix then moving the body "bulb" into alignment.

I used 1/4" tape to get the gaps consistant between the body and doors all around. I was able to do most of the sanding with the doors all mounted. Back is close to body but being carefull and slow its better than taking the doors off and on each time. The doors can be twisted slightly to fit flush but once you put on the weatherstripping it will help line up too.

Good Luck.

Thanks for the tips Silent T. I loosened everything up today and played around with some of the adjustments. I think I can get it a little better but I don't think it will be perfect all the way around. If I can split the difference, I will be happy with that. I only wish I would have sprayed the LizardSkin on the inside of the doors prior to installing them.

[Boz1911]

Glad to hear you're okay, Evan, hope your fellow firefighters are also.
After reading some solutions to door mounting I decided to take Silent's advise and cut the striker bolt head off. The left door has never closed just right but after grinding the striker bolt head things seemed a good bit better. Looking at the striker from the pass side revealed the striker bolt was a tad too long and contacting the door due to the slight taper of the door. I readjusted the striker bolt inward and for the first time since the drivers door has been on it closes and latches properly.