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Dave Smith
02-12-2011, 08:11 AM
Welcome to TheFactoryFiveForum.com! I want to take a moment to welcome you here and give you an idea of what this place is all about.

More than 100 years ago my Great Grandfather John Smith, like millions of European immigrants, came to America with not much more than a few bags, his new bride, and his skills as a Blacksmith.

http://www.factoryfive.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/daveandkids.jpg
Two of my four children, Jennifer and Adam, great-great-grandchildren of John Smith.

John and Francis Smith settled in a small town in the Allegheny mountains of Pennsylvania. He would become the town Blacksmith and they would have six sons, the youngest of whom was my Grandfather Ted Smith.

As a young boy, I was raised listening to the stories that my father would tell of John Smith and his six sons and all their adventures. I remember one story where John Smith was summoned to help a stranded steam engine with a broken turnbuckle. Up in the remote mountains, without many tools, John Smith built a furnace and forged steel bands which he used to wrap bundles of fresh cut trees that were then used to splint the broken shaft... Strong enough to return a locomotive more than 50 miles to the station! Those days people had to innovate solutions, and their motivations were, at times, perhaps more serious. Still, from those stories I learned that we are, in many ways, living and repeating the lives of our those who came before us.

From our family stories, I think my great grandfather was a realistic version of Longfellows poem, "The Village Blacksmith". On Sunday after Mass, his wife would have him open up his shop to let the neighborhood women gather and bake bread in his furnace. The tradition lasted many years and while metal was forged six days a week, friendship and community was forged on the seventh day as folks gathered to bake bread and enjoy each others company. John Smith was known as a very honest and hard-working man and I enjoy thinking of the modest way he built friendships in a small town a hundred years ago.

Within a decade or so of the turn of the century, the need for Blacksmiths was already fading. The advent of the Automobile would spell the end of my family's traditional craft, and John Smith would tell his sons to seek other paths. Other than the name SMITH, the trade would be left behind for a three generations.

When my brother and I started Factory Five Racing in 1995, it was my father who reminded me that we were returning to our family tradition of Blacksmithing. The tools were different for sure... The bellows and furnace were now CNC cut steel and MIG welding machines... But Blacksmiths we were once again!

There are many parallels about what we do at Factory Five Racing, and what our Great Grandfather did a hundred years ago.

The fact that it was the Automobile which spelled the end of our family craft that had endured for so many generations, would be the very thing that would return this Smith to Smithing... That was one thing.

The community is another shared aspect of what we do. Friendships forged at my great grandfathers Blacksmith shop a hundred years ago, were made the same way we make them today, and this on-line forum is indeed an extension of that same fellowship and community. We work hard, no doubt, but just as important is the way in which we work.

As you get to know Factory Five, the most amazing part of the company is the community we've built and the stories shared by so many. There's something special about building your own car and often times, the stories you make along the way become more important than the amazing car you built.

On behalf of the families, customers, suppliers, vendors, and friends of Factory Five Racing, I want to extend to you a warm welcome. Bring your stories, traditions, and skills and be ready to gather every now and then, between our work, to forge frienships and community.

Dave Smith
President

mrmustang
02-12-2011, 08:15 AM
Dave,

Wish you the best of luck with the new changes and the constant forward motion that you and your crew perpetuate. Have fun at the open house, wish Deb and I could have made it.


Sincerely,


Bill S.

Randy Jones
02-12-2011, 08:19 AM
Dave,

Perfectly said. Thank you for the friendship. There really is so much more than just the cars!

Randy

John Phillips
02-12-2011, 05:18 PM
Well said David! Some of my favorite memories and experiences of the past fifteen years (aside from those with my own family!) are from you descendants of John Smith, and the family of friends and fellow motorheads you've attracted. It's an honor to be a tiny part of what you've achieved. Looking forward to lots more FFR-fueled adventures in the future. Best wishes and Godspeed my friend. John Phillips

Dave Smith
02-12-2011, 05:22 PM
For all of you not fully versed in FFR lore, John "Da Judge" Phillips is a Fed Court Judge, he DROVE his Mk1 up to Wareham for an autocross event in maybe 1997 or so. I remember cause I went around the track with him. Oh, yeah, he also called me from the summit of Pikes Peak where he drove his Mk1 FFR to in the snow... LEGEND in the FFR world and Master Craftsman of FFR stories. Thanks John. Welcome Brother.

Dave Smith
FFR001

Mark Reid
02-12-2011, 05:51 PM
Ah, now this is a breath of fresh air. Thanks, Dave.

Rick lacourse
02-12-2011, 06:48 PM
Dave

ok it took me 9hrs to sign up ,the winter open house was great , i still cant believe how big it has grown ,

Marty Prario
02-12-2011, 07:41 PM
Thanks for sharing Dave. I am looking forward to our new forum adventure.

Marty

OttawaFFRer
02-12-2011, 07:49 PM
This is why we build Factory Fives.

cobraearl
02-12-2011, 08:20 PM
RATS........... THis will be the FOURTH time Ive had to RESTART my post count.. :) :)

HAD TO REGISTER THE COBRAEARL NAME!!!!!!!! :) :) And the CobraEarl Name LIVES!! :) :)

OH YEAH. GREAT IDEA DAVE!!!!!! Hope to see you some time soon, its Been Far Too Long.

Who do you talk to about ADVERTISING?

SPEAKING OF THE FFR COMMUNITY: In the last 10 years, Ive made many friends by owning FFR2362. Friends that Im glad to see everytime we get together. Friends from CA to NC to MA.

CobraEarl

georged
02-12-2011, 08:32 PM
So Dave, is this what you couldn't tell me about on Thursday? Thanks again for making it possible for average guys like us to pursue our fantasies. Or maybe we're not so average after all......

George

frankeeski
02-12-2011, 10:38 PM
Thanks Dave, Well said. Just want to extend a Thank You to you, David H. and all of the others who have made this all possible. Frank

Ophitoxaemia
02-12-2011, 10:51 PM
Just amazing how FFR has developed over the years- not surprising though! Congratulations! James

Dave Smith
02-12-2011, 10:56 PM
Sheesh, I gotta start a LEGENDS OF FFR Post! Rick Lacourse has helped more people in the NE than anyone! We go way back and his "little girl" is grown up (good seeing you at the mooch).

Cobra Earl is a LEGEND. Good to hear from you man! I told Jeff we'd be at Charlotte AutoFair this year with the rig!

Marty! Again. huge part of the community. Thanks for being here and helping folks.

George and Frank.. Thanks for the kind words.

MrMustang... Maybe you'll get your 289 after all. Don't give up man!

Im not going to mention every name cause there are too many. Seriously, this community has a still waters that run quite deep!

Dave Smith
FFR001

Sergio
02-12-2011, 11:31 PM
Awesome job David !

You have made a lot of us very happy by providing us with the medium to build our Dream Cars since you first started FFR.
This new community will provide the correct tools and information for many (new and current) builders that continue to search for satisfaction thru mechanical means in building Classic and New SuperCars.
I am also very excited as to your new FFR Car in development right now, the WRX based FFR-Pocket Rocket.
I love Subarus and will be saving some money for when the day comes.
I know I don't have much pull as to the design of that car, but if it comes looking similar to the K1 Attack (and at 10K per kit) you will have a winner.
The Younger generations will definately be dreaming of owning (and buying) it.

on another note:
I was watching TV the other day and I saw the Two Car Garage episode when you gave the tour of the Factory to one of the guys from that show, in one shot I could see a picture of my Black car (VenomXS) pasted on one of the cabinets in one of the Factory's rooms, I was static! I felt very proud to be a part of the FFR Family.... Thank You, your family and your amazing crew !

Sergio

Dave Smith
02-12-2011, 11:40 PM
Sergio, Sorry to tell you that you too are LEGEND in the family!!! Anyone who drives down the LA freeways with a comp windscreen and a helmet earns points. Thanks for everything you've done for the community. Yeah, I've seen your car posted in the shop! Brian in Tech has your car as his screen saver. You did a great job. Get up on the wall brother.

Dave

Scott Meyer
02-13-2011, 12:05 AM
Dave - it's kind of refreshing to see you posting on the forum! I've been on the other one for almost three years now ever since I ordered my first roadster (a Mk. 3.1) from you guys. It's completed now, and getting ready to start building the 2nd FFR - LCS giveaway car tomorrow with the Ohio C-Car Club! I worked on the Bob Bondurant replica Coupe two years ago and will be honored to help with the Dick Smith replica 198 roadster this year.

Hope to make it to Wareham someday to meet you in person and see the Factory.

Scott

Rscocca
02-13-2011, 07:51 AM
Thanks Dave, Its nice to see a fresh start with the forum. I look forward to seeing you guys in June.
Cheers,
Bob S.

Chromeglider
02-13-2011, 09:36 AM
Thank You Mr Smith (Dave, Mark and all the legendary Smiths that came before),

Dave,

We've never met but I have a roadster in my garage that I feel so privileged to own and I'm thoroughly enjoying "the build". I spent several years watching FF and was so impressed with you and your entire staff that it was an easy choice to join this wonderful group. Your integrity is second to no one and if anyone on this planet has any doubt about becoming an FF owner all they need to do is a little research and they can put their doubts to rest. Thanks for sharing some family history (great grandparents) and for sharing the great picture of yourself and your beautiful kids. Those are the types of gestures that truly set you apart from anyone else I know and why I sleep so well at night knowing that I made a great choice to join all of you. I believe there are many thousands more out there who feel the way I do...........so "Bring it on guys" come join a GREAT company.

Happy Anniversary Dave,
Dave Hultman

BAUTO
02-13-2011, 09:47 AM
Dave , thanks for the new forum and hopefully will be getting around to building another cobra very soon
thanks again Bob Peckham

mike forte
02-13-2011, 11:00 AM
Hi Dave,
It's been a long time since you came with Mark with the dream of building a Co... kit car to my old store on Moody Street in Waltham. I can't believe it's been 15 years now. I guess we're all getting a bit older & gray...
Keep up the good work.
Mike Forte

Dave Smith
02-13-2011, 11:35 AM
Mike! Bob! Dave and Bob!!! Yeah, we all have alot of history and alot of our hearts in this business. The road ahead will have bumps I'm sure, and once the honeymoon is over, we'll have hard work ahead of us, but with this forum, the community will be the first priority (not the company).

Mike, I remember standing in your shop picking up parts for our first car. I remember how we talked for three hours (I was just picking up a few parts! sheesh) about cars and you told me a story about being on the bridge at Lime Rock (before they enclosed it completely) during a race while trans am cars literally punched thru the air under the bridge at Lime Rock, making it shudder... I drove home saying to myself what a crazy guy I just met and how, "This guy sure loves cars". That was 1995. There are exciting days ahead man!

Dave SMith
FFR001

Rob J
02-13-2011, 01:11 PM
Dave, as a Mod over on the other side, thanks for opening up this new avenue for all of us die hards to now officially have factory support behind the great canvas's you guys give us.

I, like Sergio, am looking forward to the Subi based project. Even though I sold my MKIII several months ago to allow funds for the 65 Riv GS project, I'm certain I will build and own another FFR product in the future.

Rob J

Tails
02-14-2011, 10:25 AM
Dave, the new forum looks good... :)

I'm looking forward to seeing how this place grows. Thanks for creating the means for me to own one of my dream cars.. :)

Tails

Steve14
02-14-2011, 10:37 PM
Thank you Dave and crew at FFR. I have not been able to get the purse strings released yet but someday soon I will also get to experiance the rewarding feeling that so many have posted on the other site of building their own car. I look forward to someday meeting you and the great team you lead. You are a class act and I plan on ordering my car in person when the time comes someday. This site is a great addition to the FFR family of products. Thank you again

Magnus
02-15-2011, 09:18 PM
Dave, naturally we'll be looking forward to Forum Mk.II, MkIII, Mk.III.I and Mk 4, although some of us will consider the Mk III better looking. Others will keep wanting a slab-sided forum although it has a limited audience.

Dave Smith
03-07-2011, 03:25 PM
Magnus, Ha! I prefer to just keep changing and improving the site but those rev indicators sure would be fun.

The next few weeks will see alot of activity on the new place. We've got a ton of sponsors lined up, I want to make some content additions from our FFR files (tremendous photo library and technical logs). The season is almost here in New England and I want to be ready with this forum!

Dave Smith

John Casey
03-13-2011, 09:05 PM
Dave, good luck with the new forum.

Glad to be on board!

watkins glenn
03-24-2011, 03:31 PM
Hi Dave: Have been looking at Factory Five for a few years. Will take early retirement next year. Want to stay with busy all that I have always wanted to do, including a car project possibly a GTM. Do you have a registry with GTM locations? I live in The Rochester NY Area. Will try to make the Carlisle Show. Keep up the great work, Hope the new car happens quick.

Thanks
Tom M

Tom Veale
03-30-2011, 02:20 PM
Hi Dave,
This new forum looks just fine. While I've been comfortable at the FFCars site over the years the recent changes there may affect the quality over time.

I purchased my first FFR car (#2611SC) in 2003 in "mostly finished" form. It was a very early Challenge Series car that I upgraded with the 3Link rear kit and generally made race ready. It served me well through last Summer when I sold it to a good friend. He's having a ball with it and putting far more miles on it that I was.

In 2009, I bought #007 '33 Hot Rod, again in "mostly finished" form. It is now my Three Season driver here in Wisconsin. I get loads of compliments on it relative to appearance, but also from those who've ridden with me around Road America's 4 mile, 14 Turn track.

<img src="http://www.aim-users.com/33RA08_2010_02.jpg">

Thanks for keeping the company's products fresh and interesting. The new car based upon the WRX running gear looks like it will also be interesting.

Best regards, Tom Veale

Gumball
04-26-2011, 03:15 PM
Dave - We met the day I picked-up my roadster back in October 2009. You took nearly two hours out of your busy morning getting ready for an open house and the filming of the Two Guys Garage cruise down to Plymouth. While the product is great, so much of the enjoyment of the build and ownership process is just being able to become part of the lore that is FFR - no way it ever would have been this great without all that you and this huge family do to make it what it is.

Thanks for everything - Chris R. / Geneva, IL

P.S. Yes, my avatar is a picture of me hauling out of the FFR parking lot on pick-up day (found in the FFR archives).

KERMIT1
04-28-2011, 01:35 PM
DAVE, BUDDY

Thought I would post & say how great hte forum. Been 15years, doesn't seem like it. Alot of laughs & some tears in those 15years. 13 years ago I remember helping you climb out of the car at RUN & GUN [1998] & rolling it over & duct taping it back together so you & MARK could play some more. DICK telling you "I know your scared but when you go back out there Don't drive it like a pu**y."

289_FIA
06-17-2011, 04:49 PM
Dave, You just keep doing what you are doing. As long as you want to speak and write we will listen. For me you are not a boring person and if i were 35 years younger i would be at your doorstep looking for work. I feel that strongly about FFR and the community.

Mike

tjeffries
06-17-2011, 06:29 PM
Yer killing me Dave! I've been dragging my feet for a long time, one of these days I'll break down and pick up the phone.

speedricko
06-18-2011, 11:56 AM
Thanks and just keep doing what you are doing, new forum is great.

dliese
12-23-2011, 12:36 PM
Dave
A great story for sure and one that i am sure has inspired you and your brother and all those that lend their craft to FF.
I am new to this forum and for that matter to even the idea of building a kit car which quite honestly the MK4 2011 model has got my full attention. It has been 3 years i have followed information watched the DVD read info (don't understand a lick of car talk) but still persist on as a wanna bee owner of a MK4 kit car. I really hope to learn something about the car, the business of how to build (without sweating bullets) as i get closer to my dream of ownership.
thanks for creating such a wonderful company with great values and great quality product (from what i can see) and pushing the envelope everyday that the last day is never good enough for the future!
Dan Liese
Westerly RI

WickedHund
01-29-2012, 11:59 PM
Hi Dave & Hi Community!

So far, I can easily see why I'm so excited to of found FFR and this community. I love what I'm reading and finding out about what Dave and FFR stands for. You're building not only a company, not only a product, but growing a culture about what you all stand for. I love it. I'm an FNG to this site, but a long-time fan of beautiful cars, wrenching into the wee hours and scraping an occasional knuckle. I was looking for a long-term project for my two boys and I; to spend some quality time in the garage, and I'm hooked.

When I was 14, my dad gave me the keys to his barely-starting 1979 Pontiac Trans-AM w/ 403 Olds. Motivation to cut the lawn at Little League and save up some cash for my first Chilton's manual, a new motor, th350 and several sets of rear tires... Great life lessons learned through blood, sweat and tears of that damned "fire-chicken" and I can't wait to pass on the joy to my boys.

Thanks Dave for getting my heart pumping for my future GTM2 and thanks community (in advance) for your knowledge, patience and experience.

It's great to be here-
-Jeff

BEAVERPILOT1950
07-07-2012, 12:51 PM
New to this forum but a past member to the original forums. These forums and the great members helped me build ffr 3411 which i still own and drive. My face hurts from the smile i have everytime i drive it. I currently have 30k of troublefree driving. Total support from ffr and all the friends of ffr. Thanks. Beaverpilot1950 (tom)

paulyboy
02-06-2014, 04:43 PM
Hi Dave:

Nice family photo!

I bought one of your original Mk2"s, very nice kit and easy to build. I wish your engineers would come up with a service bulletin like the aircraft industry does when a problem occurs. (37 years at Boeing.) The original design for the hood hinge attachment. The existing design is a nightmare and is ery weak.

Thanks
Paul Bernard.

P.S. I still have the car with only 50 miles on it.

68GT500MAN
02-06-2014, 04:59 PM
Paul, Why are you not out driving the wheels off of it?
Doug

ProfessorGT
05-13-2014, 10:26 AM
Dave,

At the risk of sounding trite, what can I say: I found you and Mark just after you got started on this awesome adventure we call FFR, and I've been a staunch advocate ever since. Unfortunately for me, financial disaster has once again dashed my dreams of building one of these beauties myself (the Daytona is my first choice). Alas, there is hope as my new employer may be interested in doing a fund raiser based upon auctioning off a car after the build! (Your recommendations in this regard would be very much appreciated.)

I've visited your Wareham facility a few times and met both you and Mark. I've watched this unbelievably positive community evolve, and I've yearned to be a part of it, one way or another. I vow that some how, some way, I will find the key to unlock the door to becoming a contributing member of the FFR experience. I'm a gearhead, plain and simple. It's all I've ever done, and all I care to do. It's my passion and somehow everything always comes back to it one way or another, for me. My wife often say, "Oh, if it's not about a car or an engine, you're not interested!" My response: "And the problem with that is?"

Unfortunately I was not able to do my build with my Dad before he left this place, and it saddens me that I could not share such a great experience with him. I know however that I will vindicate the old saying: "Where there is a will, there is a way!" , and when I do, my Dad will smile down on me as I do smokey donuts in his honor on my car's maiden voyage!

My Dad you see was one of those guys who, although he never had a passion for automobiles like I do, he was mechanically inclined and he did most of his own automotive repairs. (He was a military aerospace designer who actually designed parts for the LEM - Lunar Excursion Module, that was used for the Moonshot). Well in "Holding the Light" for him as he replaced a starter, or did brakes or exhaust, he set the hook in me, for what would ultimately become my passion.

For the past 30+ years I have worked in many technical automotive roles: heavy truck technician, Ford factory field service engineer, an Allison Transmission Certified Technical Training Instructor and so on. Currently I travel the country teaching for NAPA Autotech, which for me means sharing my passion for all things automotive with those I can touch in what I feel is a special way, by helping to make their lives a bit easier when it comes to diagnosing and repairing vehicles. I think of it as getting paid to bench race! Yea, I get paid to share my passion and at the same time I help others put food on the table! It's a great feeling!

So you see, in coming full-circle, I truly admire what you have done with FFR, because in many ways it parallels my passion for sharing all things automotive with those who are jazzed by this wonderful world of high performance automobiles. As Gary Cheney stated in one of the videos, "You give us the canvas" so as our own version of automotive "Arteests", we can paint these beautiful works of automotive art!

The fact that this phenomenal "FFR Community" has developed is the icing on the cake, and in many ways, this is the greatest part of the experience! Although I have not yet been fully dipped in the FFR chocolate, I hope to be before I leave this world, and what a sweet taste it will be!

Thanks Dave for creating, and bringing such a positive and enabling high performance automotive community experience into this world! You are a true example of the power of what one man can do to make a difference, and the automotive world is infinitely better off because of you!

Bravo!

ProfessorGT

68GT500MAN
05-13-2014, 10:58 AM
Welcome to the forum Professor GT. Your passion is similar to many here, enjoy your stay.
Doug

David Hodgkins
05-13-2014, 11:39 AM
Great first post! Welcome!

:)

WIS89
05-13-2014, 03:41 PM
Professor GT-

I encourage you to spend some time here as you get nearer your decision. The people here are truly extraordinary, and surprise me often. Their knowledge and willingness to share it, pay it forward, and assist whenever and however they can is unparallelled.

I think you will find your visits here will reveal exactly what I describe, and that you will enjoy coming here and learning and sharing with us as well.

Best of luck as you pursue your dream, and welcome to the community!

Regards,

Steve

S2D2
05-23-2014, 01:37 PM
Dave and the Group at FFR. Still sorting out minor things like suspension, but was able to get the Coupe registered in late January. Been to a couple of car shows and everybody liked it. One Lady probably in her mid sixties knew exactly what it represented. Surprised me. Anyway. Thanks for the advice and guidance in the build. WR-Bob




Welcome to TheFactoryFiveForum.com! I want to take a moment to welcome you here and give you an idea of what this place is all about.

More than 100 years ago my Great Grandfather John Smith, like millions of European immigrants, came to America with not much more than a few bags, his new bride, and his skills as a Blacksmith.

http://www.factoryfive.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/daveandkids.jpg
Two of my four children, Jennifer and Adam, great-great-grandchildren of John Smith.

John and Francis Smith settled in a small town in the Allegheny mountains of Pennsylvania. He would become the town Blacksmith and they would have six sons, the youngest of whom was my Grandfather Ted Smith.

As a young boy, I was raised listening to the stories that my father would tell of John Smith and his six sons and all their adventures. I remember one story where John Smith was summoned to help a stranded steam engine with a broken turnbuckle. Up in the remote mountains, without many tools, John Smith built a furnace and forged steel bands which he used to wrap bundles of fresh cut trees that were then used to splint the broken shaft... Strong enough to return a locomotive more than 50 miles to the station! Those days people had to innovate solutions, and their motivations were, at times, perhaps more serious. Still, from those stories I learned that we are, in many ways, living and repeating the lives of our those who came before us.

From our family stories, I think my great grandfather was a realistic version of Longfellows poem, "The Village Blacksmith". On Sunday after Mass, his wife would have him open up his shop to let the neighborhood women gather and bake bread in his furnace. The tradition lasted many years and while metal was forged six days a week, friendship and community was formed on the seventh day as folks gathered to bake bread and enjoy each others company. John Smith was known as a very honest and hard-working man and I enjoy thinking of the modest way he forged friendships in a small town a hundred years ago.

Within a decade or so of the turn of the century, the need for Blacksmiths was already fading. The advent of the Automobile would spell the end of my family's traditional craft, and John Smith would tell his sons to seek other paths. Other than the name SMITH, the trade would be left behind for a three generations.

When my brother and I started Factory Five Racing in 1995, it was my father who reminded us that we were returning to our family tradition of Blacksmithing. The tools were different for sure... The bellows and furnace were now CNC cut steel and MIG welding machines... But Blacksmiths we were once again!

There are many parallels about what we do at Factory Five Racing, and what our Great Grandfather did a hundred years ago.

The fact that it was the Automobile which spelled the end of our family craft that had endured for so many generations, would be the very thing that would return Smith boys to the Smithing... That was one thing.

The community is another shared aspect of what we do. Friendships forged at my great grandfathers Blacksmith shop a hundred years ago, were made the same way we make them today, and this on-line forum is indeed an extension of that same fellowship and community. We work hard, no doubt, but just as important is the way in which we work.

As you get to know Factory Five, the most amazing part of the company is the community we've built and the stories shared by so many. There's something special about building your own car and often times, the stories you make along the way become more important than the amazing car you built.

On behalf of the families, customers, suppliers, vendors, and friends of Factory Five Racing, I want to extend to you a warm welcome. Bring your stories, traditions, and skills and be ready to gather every now and then, between our work, to forge frienships and community.

Dave Smith
President

Pete Tork
10-19-2014, 09:11 AM
Dave,
We met you and your brother back in the late 90's when we visited the factory in Wareham. We purchased one of your carbon fiber bodies and built it ourselves. All new parts, no donor. We did everything except the paint, helped a friend (sanding) who had a paint booth to paint it. Now I am 80 years old and having some medical problems, so need to find a new owner for my car. We love it but it is time to pass it on. It was a winner at Run and Gun for several years. Only has 15,000 plus miles looks great. So glad your company is going strong. We would have purchased a "real" Cobra back in 64 but couldn't afford the insurance.

Aceflo
10-14-2015, 06:57 PM
I'm new to the Factory Five scene, but I'm looking forward to getting to know everyone.

Thanks for building such beautiful kits. I cant wait to jump in and get started on my first.

JG-Man
11-21-2016, 11:02 PM
Hi, I'm new to the forum. Was already on the FFR e-mail list and started looking for a change and to maybe get into a Cobra. Spoke to some friends who built one and they suggested that I join the forum. Good place to learn a lot about the cars. I didn't realize how big the FFR culture had gotten though. Nice to see.

R. Button
11-23-2016, 12:23 AM
What started as a side trip, to visit a tiny company, in the corner of what looked like an old manufacturing complex, south of Boston, back in 1995, is still a trip that has not ended! I had seen the ads for their car built from a side hit late model mustang. I had not done much research, but I had done well with a 401k so on a whim cashed some of it out and bought the assembly manual from some girl in a crowded office. I had just wanted to be sure this was a real company and not just an ad with no real"stuff" behind the ad. I ordered the "kit", and then called one of the suggested local salvage yards. About a week later I drive over to a NH salvage yard to pickup the parts, using the check list I was given, for all the donor parts needed. And they loaded it all into the back of my little Toyota pickup. The donor parts were all laid out upstairs in the huge carriage house building behind the house up in Maine. Piece by piece they were cleaned and painted. Then the call came that my"kit" was ready for pickup. My son and I went down to the local U-Haul dealer and rented an auto hauler trailer.

The night before we bolted sheets of 3/8 inch plywood to the hauler to form a basic flatbed trailer. We drilled holes in the plywood and placed large wing nuts at the end of bolts with the wing on the nut hooked to the metal rails. By tightening up the bolt it drew the wing nut up tight to the trailer rails. We had made a flat bed frame hauler! Hooked it up to the little Toyota pickup and left early Saturday morning to pick up"our" kit. Mark Smith happened to be the meet and greeter when we arrived to pick up our parts. We loaded up went over the check list, the parts on back order, and we headed back home to Maine. After unloaded we drove over to the U-Haul drop offlocation. I made the turn out of the driveway and about 300 feet down the street I heard a loud bang and saw one of the U-Haul trailer tires roll off into a yard. The bearing had come apart and the wheel, brake hub, with most of the brake assembly, were now lying about 200 feet away in the neighbor’s yard. And so began our adventure.

I ran a phone line out to the carriage house to allow me to work while building the car. I did computer support for a software system. Back then we picked up the kit, parts were on back order. Thus over the next few months you would arrive home to find a box with a FFR logo on it, with your back ordered parts. On the forums there was much discussion about back ordered parts. Some wanted all the parts when they picked up their kit. I think they missed out on the joy of at least once a week finding a box at their door filled with magical parts! It was like a birthday and Christmas all wrapped up in those boxes.

My wife and I took in special needs children at our house. Nothing broke through to them quicker than to be in the old carriage house, seeing a car being built. Countless questions “what’s that”, “what is it used for”, etc were asked by each child. And the boxes that arrived each week were pointed out when I would arrive back home – “You have another box”, followed by “what’s inside it”. The opening of the back ordered boxes became the magical event in their lives too.

Finally the car was ready to be on the road. A local Maine State Trooper came by to inspect for all the parts I was building the car from. Matching them to the receipt I had from the salvage yard. A few weeks later he came back to rivet the vin plate on the frame. A visit to motor vehicles got the car registered and a set of plates. The first day I pulled the fully assembled and freshly painted car out of the carriage house garage, I did not adjust well on the passenger side, caught the flair on the rear wheel on the side of the door frame! The fiberglass gave, buckled, but never broke. Instead I now has a set of horizontal cracks in the clear coat on the right rear fender. And they are still there to this day. I got over it and no longer worried about paint chips.

I do have a lot of open road miles on my car now and especially the front of the car looks rather "battered" from all the stone chips I've picked up along the highways and tracks I've raced on. Over the years I have rebuilt most every mechanical part
1. Cooling system - old Mustang radiator replaced with custom Aluminum after the Mustang radiator started to leak
2. front and rear suspension second set of ball joints and newer style control arms
3. old Mustang springs converted to now Koni Coil overs
4. Engine - rebuilt as supercharged EFI then pulled it and switched to carburetor on top of a 347 cu inengine,
5. Transmission rebuilt
6. brakes still have the mustang ones in front but the rears are now disk brakes.
7. Carbon fiber doors and trunk have replaced the old Mark I doors and trunk.
8. Rear end has been rebuilt about 10 times as the clutch disks get worn from track events.
9. Am on my fourth set of side pipes - both from use and the bracket holding the middle of the side pipes up welds weakened and split the pipe. This new set of SS side pipes has the newer design bracket which seems to work way better.
10. the third set of gauges are in the dash now, that was two sets of converted Mustang gauges and now the Autometer gauges.
11. Three of the original FFR soft tops have been on the car - each of the other two the front center slowly tore apart overtime. This top is not long for the car as the "nail head" that fits in the top of the windscreen frame pops out of the frame often. These are NOT the Whitby tops that FFR sells but pre date them! Geezz…that sounds really old now!

After all this, I have considered what to do ... I still work for companies fixing their website systems.
So … what do I do with the ol’Mark I that has carried me so many miles and is a fixture in the family. I have a granddaughter that proudly will tell anyone at any carshow that she has a blue cobra that her grandfather is keeping for her! It will remain in the family and handed on down to other generations. I drive every day to work in it, as well as frequent road trips should I need to visit with family. When I'm driving it, I get to forget about work and just drive as, I can't hear the phone ring - they will just have to wait till I stop for me to notice I missed a call. I get a few moments each day, while I drive when I'd "disconnected" from the devices. It's just me driving, enjoying the view, windnoise, and often the cool air.

It's been now 20 years of meeting people as they peek around the gas pump to see "that car". Conversations that never would have happened except they had to ask about "that car". People at the office come find me to ask is that your car - no description needed.

The Stig
11-23-2016, 10:11 AM
Mr. Button, it is always a pleasure to read your posts. They are always well versed, with a nice point to consider.

It was the fall of 2007 when I learned of Factory Five while walking through a car show at the Charlotte Motor Speedway. I spoke with a couple of people at the Factory Five hauler (Jeff Collins), about the cars. They gave me some brochures for each car, along with a DVD that went into much deeper detail.

In the "bonus" section of the DVD, there were a few "short stories" that really caught my attention; including one called "The Traveler". Seeing you drive across the US with Earl, was simply what building these cars is all about. Then to learn that this was just one of MANY such trips that you had made in your Factory Five Mk-I Roadster, really enforced the knowledge that if we take our time and build these cars right, they can, and should last us through our lives.

Thank you for sharing your stories. I am sure that your Grand-Daughter will treat "her" Factory Five Mk-I, with the same respect that you have.

Take care Sir. And may I be another in a long list to wish you and your family a wonderful Thanksgiving.

As I've said before, if you find yourself in Charlotte, feel free to stop by. The door will always be open for you.

Mike
Charlotte, NC

GoDadGo
11-23-2016, 10:39 AM
I too got that same DVD and "The Traveler" video sold me on Factory Five.

Though my car is the newer MK-4 model, the inspiration of it becoming by daily driver comes from Sir Ralph Button, Senior Statesman For Factory Five Racing!

While I've had some financial and other issues slow my build, I'm almost there.

Steve // aka: GoDadGo

ehansen007
11-23-2016, 12:17 PM
Mr. Button, awesome story. Enjoyed every paragraph. Thanks. Working on my story as we speak. ;)

vnmsss
11-23-2016, 02:51 PM
Mr. Button.......You are truly my hero!! Like you, we've always believed that these cars are made to drive, and whether its a road trip with friends, racing wheel-to-wheel, or just enjoying a great cruise on any winding stretch of road, these cars somehow make the realities of the day-to-day world just fade away with every turn of the wheel.

I extend a warm welcome to anyone considering joining this amazing community. I've owned eight Factory Five's to date, with #9 on the way, and I know you will also soon find that the memories you make, and the friendships forged through our cars, will last a lifetime. Karen

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ydousurf
10-15-2019, 09:08 PM
Hi Dave,
I know I’m somewhat new to the entire Factory Five Racing forum and you don’t know me, yet? So, as my first post, I figure I would introduce myself to you and the FFR community. My name is Doug “Dj” Sandin, and I have been absolutely “awe struck” following over the past decade plus with all the great things coming out of FFR. I’ve been waiting patiently, planning and saving wherever I could over the many years. I would send off for the current FFR informational materials every five years or so, just hoping that one day soon, I too would get my chance to build my own dream car.

Over the years, I have been observing and learning from the various methods of information that are available to anyone. Even these past few months, I’ve been on the Factory Five Forum just taking in all the amazing information and stories of people and they themselves, creating something special in their own way. The Factory Five Forum is a really special place and to be honest – “It’s probably the coolest site on the web!” The people are absolutely amazing, which is a testament to this very thing that encompasses and embodies the Factory Five Family! I have been using the site to prepare for the special day that I would hope would arrive in 2020. That special moment to become an official member of the FFR Family! To join the rest of those who have taken the challenge to build their desired dream car or truck. I mean, that has to be very rare and incredibly special too, to be able to do what your motto says --- I “Built not Bought” my car! I have only begun to yet realize how proud one must feel to live that motto and the moments, which will surely lasts a lifetime.

I want you to know how honored and humbled I am in getting a chance to build one of the very Special 25th Anniversary Mk4 Roadster’s. Everything you and your team put into this model, I fell in love with! The paint theme and color choices, interior design and the wheels! I love the wheels! Not to mention the exhaust change and body mold updates, license plate adjustment and the square tail lights too – It’ just over the top!!! So, I knew I had to expedite my plans and try and possibly get the chance to build and own one. If not, I always had Plan A: Getting a Complete Mk4 Roadster Kit in 2020! And I would have been more than happy with that path too! However, I had to at least try and see if I could possibly expedite my plans. So, with the support of my wife and even the help of FFR themselves in getting my order all set and working with me for which I'm grateful. I will now wait patiently to be hit with an avalanche of emotions and no doubt a ton of joy ahead, since this surely won’t be work building this dream.

So again, thank you! Thanks to all of the FFR Employees who have contributed to its success over the years. I am so ever grateful for the vision you and your brother had to create Factory Five Racing so long ago! No doubt with your current incredible team of employees, you’re able to offer all these various models that are available for any of us to choose from and build. There’s something for everyone!

Thanks for sharing this story about your great grandfather with us as well. What started with the very dream for your great grandfather, who used his valuable skills and played a pivotal and positive role to his local community; It’s also clearly embedded in the very grain of you and your family helping to foster the ongoing tradition for a wonderful community, filled with many, many friendships and family. I also love the notion of allowing others to use the furnace to bake bread and create happiness, giving back to the community and truly building out the extension of the term – Extended Family! And now in a very similar way it was passed down, as you said, stepping back into his role of a Blacksmith and carrying on the tradition in a modern way. Very cool!

You have clearly taken the wheel and drove off into the future, building out Factory Five Racing Company to what it is today. It’s must be very rewarding to see all the hard work and dedication payoff and essentially have gone full circle for you, your family and the entire Factory Five Family too. Job well done! You no doubt have touched many people’s lives over the years and have had positive impact on them as well. Carrying on this tradition to build and foster beautiful supportive communities is obvious with all that FFR is involved with.

Dave, all my life I have dreamed of owning your Mk4 Roadster! The Roadster has always been the “One Car” that puts a smile on my face just looking at it sitting still. I can’t imagine the feeling I will surely have, to finally drive the very thing I built! That has to be an extremely special, live-to-experience-kind-of-moment! I know I will always be honored, humbled and so proud to have built and say that "I own a Factory Five Mk4 Roadster!" Again, thanks to you and your entire team at FFR, for creating, building and allowing any of us to begin with this beautiful foundation. Taking each of our own visions and building something that will transgress time and have positive impact on our own lives and those around us. I can't wait til the day in the future when I drive up and meet you in person and all the rest of those who make up FFR. I wish you nothing but clear roads and all the best to FFR with limitless possibilities of growth and much success in the future…

Sincerely,

Doug “Dj” Sandin

fenderguitarsrock
08-17-2021, 07:01 PM
Ive watched many of your videos on youtube Dave. Great product that you have built ! If it wasn't for you there wouldn't be so much fun in the world ! Thanks you.

Real Time
12-22-2021, 08:58 PM
Hi Dave,
Glad to have found this forum. I signed up for the 2021 February 18 build class. The future will tell if a build is in the cards for me.
I have a similar family history to yours. My great grand dad owned a wagon shop in Queens NY. I don't need to tell you that the automobile put an end to his shop. A few of his tools were passed down to me. Some of which I still use from time to time. It's an honor to have them.
Fabrication of one form or another has been in my bones as far back as I can remember. I'm looking forward to my membership here.

George-LI NY

Unclebill
05-03-2023, 11:02 AM
Hi, Dave. I've been a member for a long time but life got in the way. I am the proud owner of kit 2449 born in your facility on December 28th 2000. I have picked up and moved on with construction. In addition to 2449 ,I found and removed all applicable parts fron a 1988 Mustang LX. In keeping with the build manual I intend to keep this MK2 as stock as possible by using original components. Since I purchased the kit , I have relocated to Dover, Delaware from West Greenwich, Rhode Island. I had to partially assemble by installing the front suspension and rear end and put the body back on the frame to get the it on a uhaul car trailer.The rest of the boxes and household goods went in the uhaul truck. I've had the engine completely rebuilt, balanced and blueprinted to 306 ci. I'm working on cleaning and/or restoring the other parts. I need a good body shop in the Delaware are to prep and finish the body. Enough for now. I'll post more as I progress.

Rhino
10-08-2023, 02:28 PM
Thanks for a great welcome. I look forward to joining your family.

DASMKIV
09-05-2024, 04:02 PM
Thank you David Smith and team for providing the opportunity to build an amazing car and more importantly the ability to participate in a community like this. I have followed Factory Five since I was in college in 1995 and have been chasing this dream for some time and I look forward to making it happen now.

jfrissora
03-21-2026, 08:55 PM
FFR made a childhood dream possible, thanks guys!