Current 818 (May 2012) Coupe Add-Ons

[Vman7]

Here is a Preview of one of the Coupe Add-ons so far.

Based on the Vantage, but totally reworked to work with the current 818 body.

Note: the front end of the body is the old 818. I have to rework that to reflect the current 818 body.

Once I get all the details done on the body, Coupe etc., then I will go back and clean up the body and do the add-ons for the body.

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=10432&d=1340587223
10432

Just wanted to get this preview out, so people have an idea.

David

[flytosail]

That is an "ADD TO CART"! Nice job.

[clintavo]

This is the version I'd get. *Perfect* proportions.

[Silvertop]

FFR really ought to consider putting you on the payroll, Vman7. Your work is consistently outstanding!

[Etos]

You should add your own iterations to the design like the rear vent going alongside the door. To me, that is something FFR MUST do. Honestly wasn't too happy with the design that was released by FFR but I really like the small changes you added. It does change the car considerably enough for me to be happy with purchasing that design rather then settling with the old one.

[Xusia]

MAN, that it good looking! Very nice work. :)

[07FIREBLADE]

Damn. It seems like Jim has some competition... Lol jk but seriously this is getting hotter and hotter. Seems like a simple addition too. If FFR doesn't make a top like this then some third vendor should step up to the plate... Wink .... Wink

[riptide motorsport]

I agree someone needs to pput this guy on their payroll.

[spaceywilly]

looks great

[projectrally]

That looks incredible! I want it.

I went to the Targa Newfoundland last year (to film it, not to drive), and I've been daydreaming of running the event some day. It's officially on my bucket list, and I think the 818 could be the perfect car for the event. That is, provided it's got real climate protection. Windows and a fixed roof are really very necessary in an event that ALWAYS gets rainy days.

For track days, an open-topped 818 is great, but for endurance racing you'd really want that closed cockpit and a strong defroster to keep the window clear.

[AJW Performance]

MAN, that it good looking! Very nice work. :)

what he said!

[Vman7]

Thanks everybody!:)

I am working on getting the front to reflect the current 818, as well as working on another coupe design, targa and a "so called" quick hard/soft top (mostly a short coupe with opt. targa/soft top).

One thing has been bothering me though, is when I first layed out the 818 cad drawing to scale was the orig contest template doesn't really fit right in some areas, mostly the wheel wells, they seem to be off, mostly on the front. Not sure what's going on there. I am thinking that the cad drawing might have been changed somewhat since Jim changed the front end look. No big deal, I'll just adjust it a little to look better, but not take away from the current design.

I need to really get working on the body and clean it up etc., but having so much fun working with ideas for the coupe etc. ....:)

edit add-on....lol
btw have some new ideas for the rear as well, not sure how I am going to lay them out though, since I haven't found any real good rear shots of the 818. I might just use the Vantage since it is somewhat close and work with that. Trying to take what I have seen what Jim has done so far, and just work with it, to kind of make it "more exciting" using real world parts. Try and work with a single or duel exhaust, a single can be hard to make it look pleasing.

David

[Kwizatz-haderah]

David,

You're my hero! Keep up the awesome and inspirational work. Your designs are helping to bring out what is so special about building kits, that with creativity and skill you can put your thumb print firmly into what you build and make it uniquely yours. Anyone who's ever built a FFR Cobra knows that no two are alike and skies the limit on mods and directions you can go in.

[Vman7]

I think I am going to put all this mod stuff on hold for a while. There will be plenty of time to do it later, once FFR comes out with their first body style. I just don't want to do everything all over again. Now if they don't release some good side, front, rear, 3/4 views later, it's going to make it tough to do any decent mod renderings, like the 65 coupe, still waiting for some good side shots of that one, and I even asked people for some, still nothing and that was over the last coupe of years......arrhh.

Anyhoot, mod.s on hold for now, unless I get really bored again.......lol

David

[bbjones121]

I wish they would have extended the side vent shape into the door. Most kits for your typical mazda, honda, toyota etc. incorporate vents and they are usually only in single panels. I get it, easier manufacturing and less tolerance is needed. The real exotic cars seem to run the curves into the doors. I like how you did it Vman in your designs, I hope factory five can do something like that so it doesn't look so mainstream manufactured.

[Vman7]

I thought I would bring up this thread, so people can get an idea of what I will be coming up with. It will be something like this one.
The Top would be lower though, from what I have seen in the photos so far.

[Sultan]

Wow

[timmy318]

Sold on the idea Vman7

[BrandonDrums]

Add to cart for sure haha!

Nice work man. I wonder if you can work that into a removable hard top somehow. It'd be difficult to get it to seal I imagine but would sell like hotcakes even it if it meant having some internal fabric to seal the top and the rest being for design.

[dbjr63]

that what i want to buy.

[flynntuna]

Very nice, are those extentions of the humps with vertical rear glass, or is it a fastback.

[gwader]

Daddy likes!

[Xusia]

Hey Brandon, I'm not picking on you here. :) I've seen a number of posts where "keeping the water out" (as I'll call it) is a concern. As someone who loves them and has owned them in the past, let me state emphatically it's not reasonable to expect never to get water in a convertible. It's GOING to happen. And it won't be a big deal, I promise! They dry out. If that makes you cringe, you might consider waiting for the coupe. (I'm making the assumption here anyone concerned about waterproofing isn't planning on driving it only on sunny days...)

That said, the convertibles I've owned are more waterproof than you'd expect. The top rail (that seals the top to the windshield) has a rubber gasket, and it works pretty well. Would it stop a monsoon? Probably not, but it won't allow much to get into the car. The windows just rested against the top, but very little water actually got in - even when raining hard. There was a small lip to channel water falling off the roof away from the windows, and it worked very well. These are simple things that can either be built in to a top (hard, soft, targa), or fairly easily added after the fact.

Point being, it's really not a big deal. It will be OK! :D

[Vman7]

Very nice, are those extentions of the humps with vertical rear glass, or is it a fastback.

Neither actually. It's like a regular coupe with a vertical window behind the seats.

Something along the line of what I did on the Vantage.
http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=6630&d=1323207734

[STI4WRC]

Vman7, like I said in my pm's to you I'm glad you are back in the game. I'm dying for a coupe model that looks like what you have come up with. My only concern so far is people talking about keeping the roof line low. My MAJOR concern would to be able to put a roll bar under there. I'm thinking about putting another bar just behind the top edge of the windshield and some how tying it to the aft roll bar, so that my helmet would not be above the roll cage/bar. I plan on driving this to and from the track. I guess if I'm going to dream I might as well dream big, I want it all for $9,990 plus the additional cost for the coupe roof styling.

[Vman7]

Vman7, like I said in my pm's to you I'm glad you are back in the game. I'm dying for a coupe model that looks like what you have come up with. My only concern so far is people talking about keeping the roof line low. My MAJOR concern would to be able to put a roll bar under there. I'm thinking about putting another bar just behind the top edge of the windshield and some how tying it to the aft roll bar, so that my helmet would not be above the roll cage/bar. I plan on driving this to and from the track. I guess if I'm going to dream I might as well dream big, I want it all for $9,990 plus the additional cost for the coupe roof styling.

Thanks :) I am considering all that stuff, just waiting on some photos etc., then I can figure all that stuff into the design.

[timmy318]

Love what you can do and only wish I could do half the stuff you've done so far!

[NonProfit]

FFR really ought to consider putting you on the payroll, Vman7. Your work is consistently outstanding!

David, I just wanted to express my admiration for your work. Very few people can design well. But you are part of the very small subset of that talented group who can take a strong design and improve upon it.

[jkrueger]

I'll buy that! I'm waiting for a coupe. I have a convertible now for a daily driver, and want a coupe.


Here is a Preview of one of the Coupe Add-ons so far.

Based on the Vantage, but totally reworked to work with the current 818 body.

Note: the front end of the body is the old 818. I have to rework that to reflect the current 818 body.

Once I get all the details done on the body, Coupe etc., then I will go back and clean up the body and do the add-ons for the body.

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=10432&d=1340587223
10432

Just wanted to get this preview out, so people have an idea.

David

[terse]

love it! i'm really excited for this car, but only the coupe version.

here's a spy pic i found on another site that got me very excited about the possibility of the coupe. no coupe is a deal-breaker for me

http://www.kitspeed.com/wp-content/uploads/cache/3799_thumbzoom.jpg

[Turboguy]

You know, I'm really liking the look of the front end pictured ^^^^^ above.


I wonder if this piece would be a much more complex to mold than the one that's currently on the 818?

[Mechie3]

here's a spy pic i found on another site that got me very excited about the possibility of the coupe.

Just so everyone is clear, that is a photoshop of the current 818R (before paint) where the artist added the coupe top and modified the bumper. I too really like that bumper though.

[bbjones121]

Since this is a mid engined car, why would we need such large openings in the front bumper?

[Mechie3]

Mostly looks I'd say.

http://www.cardbs.com/images/ferrari-f430-19.jpg

[blueoval_bowtie_guy]

Since this is a mid engined car, why would we need such large openings in the front bumper?

The radiator is up front.

[Mechie3]

I think he meant that opening that large were overkill for the radiator and would only add drag.

[bbjones121]

Yes to what Mechie said. Granted it looks nice, but the center opening is for the radiator. On a Ferrari, there are two angled radiators that require the side openings.

[Mechie3]

Was't aware of the Ferrari having 2 radiators. If you didn't care about keeping the stock radiator, it might be interesting trying to fit two small radiators and using the entire front as a trunk. Hmm

[bbjones121]

Was't aware of the Ferrari having 2 radiators. If you didn't care about keeping the stock radiator, it might be interesting trying to fit two small radiators and using the entire front as a trunk. Hmm

That would be sweet!

[Bkafe]

I would certainly pay a bit of a premium for final tweaks to the styling, to end up with a front end like post #30 and a rear like #24... Jawdropping.

[Vman7]

ok here is a teaser....lol

Yes it's the new 818, yes those are real taillights (hella), and yes the taillights are to scale......lol

The idea is to use modules for everythings, taillight area, ctr section (molded in) etc., that way you can swap out the desired look you are looking for.

Not finished with it yet, but I thought I would post what I have so far, needs more shading, shadows etc. I also have a few other ideas.

This is keeping me busy until there are some really good pics for doing the coupe/targa.

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=12963&d=1351811641
12963

[timmy318]

ok here is a teaser....lol

Yes it's the new 818, yes those are real taillights (hella), and yes the taillights are to scale......lol

The idea is to use modules for everythings, taillight area, ctr section etc., that way you can swap out the desired look you are looking for.

Not finished with it yet, but I thought I would post what I have so far, needs more shading, shadows etc. I also have a few other ideas.

This is keeping me busy until there are some really good pics for doing the coupe/targa.

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=12963&d=1351811641
12963

epic my friend..... just plain epic.....

[FFR-ADV]

WOW!!!

Looking forward to seeing more of your work. WELL DONE!

Steve

[dbjr63]

ok here is a teaser....lol

Yes it's the new 818, yes those are real taillights (hella), and yes the taillights are to scale......lol

The idea is to use modules for everythings, taillight area, ctr section (molded in) etc., that way you can swap out the desired look you are looking for.

Not finished with it yet, but I thought I would post what I have so far, needs more shading, shadows etc. I also have a few other ideas.

This is keeping me busy until there are some really good pics for doing the coupe/targa.

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=12963&d=1351811641
12963

i like that on the street version.

[Mechie3]

I lo e that back end. Sort of a combination of an Audi R8 and a lambo. That middle square is perfect for hiding a.license plate.

[Vman7]

I forgot to mention that this idea is for the Street version, but could be used for the Race version as well. It was the only pic straight on of the 818 so far.

Mechie3, the upper vent area (center) is for either an American or Aussie Lic. Plate, euro would have to go down on the bottom area.

Can put lic plate top or bottom, exhaust top or bottom (dual center or wide apart)

David

[flynntuna]

Vman7 your great, your renderings throw fuel on the fire. There's going to be so many ways to mod this project it'll only be limited by one's imagination.

[FFR-ADV]

Hi David,

Do you have plans for the diffuser? I really like your Vantage diffuser with the backup light!

Steve

[Mechie3]

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=12963&d=1351811641
12963

Here's the original for a comparison.
http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=12765&d=1351656369

And the roadster.
http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=12816&d=1351657450

it looks as if you bought the S, you could potentially fabricate Vman's rear bumper. If you got a precutout R, it's be a lot more work. I think that the main reason Vman's model looks better is the 3D-ness of it. The 818R looks a little too flat where the mesh was added. Even if they keep the original shape, they should add a bevel around the edge to make it look like it was original instead of someone cutting it out and adding it later.

Compare it to a ferrari challenge grille and you can see how it has a slow curve, then bevels around the lights. I hope I can fabricate something likeVmans rendering without messing it up. lol

http://pdfeeloans.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/installation-Ferrari-360-pdfeeloans.jpg

[flynntuna]

Here's the original for a comparison.
http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=12765&d=1351656369

And the roadster.
http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=12816&d=1351657450

it looks as if you bought the S, you could potentially fabricate Vman's rear bumper. If you got a precutout R, it's be a lot more work. I think that the main reason Vman's model looks better is the 3D-ness of it. The 818R looks a little too flat where the mesh was added. Even if they keep the original shape, they should add a bevel around the edge to make it look like it was original instead of someone cutting it out and adding it later.

Compare it to a ferrari challenge grille and you can see how it has a slow curve, then bevels around the lights. I hope I can fabricate something likeVmans rendering without messing it up. lol

http://pdfeeloans.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/installation-Ferrari-360-pdfeeloans.jpg

One slip with the air saw, and either your on the phone to FFR for a new bumper , or make a change in the design.LOL

[timmy318]

I see the back of the 818-S as a clean slate where we can kinda make it our own. Some will leave it while others will choose to customize it.

[narkosys]

i am trying to figure out how to install a set of these (http://vraptorspeedworks.com/?page_id=430) below the tail lights.

P

[NonProfit]

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=12963&d=1351811641
Wow, that looks good...

[bbjones121]

Wow. Vman, you are good. I would put my liscence plate or exhaust in the upper middle vent. There are lots of vents going on.

[timmy318]

Personally, I'd have the license plate go in the middle upper vent, then route the exhaust to the vent under the license plate, then leave the vents under the tail lights alone.

[flynntuna]

Personally, I'd have the license plate go in the middle upper vent, then route the exhaust to the vent under the license plate, then leave the vents under the tail lights alone.

Ditto

[bbjones121]

+1_

[rjh2pd]

I like these tail lights a lot more than the original ones. they look like corvette lights to me

[bbjones121]

That would look great. Vman, is it easy to put a license plate and exhaust in your design

[Kwizatz-haderah]

Amazing! Love it!

[Vman7]

Hi David,

Do you have plans for the diffuser? I really like your Vantage diffuser with the backup light!

Steve

Not sure yet, looking into it. I might wait until I finshed working with everything else first.




it looks as if you bought the S, you could potentially fabricate Vman's rear bumper. If you got a precutout R, it's be a lot more work.

It would work with either one since you would cutout the upper taillight section all together, then take the ctr module and fiberglass that in, then put in the 2 outer vent modules, then put in the 2 taillight modules, then the ctr Lic Plate/ or ctr vent module.

I have it all pretty much figured out, just the details on how to attach each module, something FFR could or might figure out.

These could definitely be possible as upgrades in the future by FFR or a 3rd party.


i am trying to figure out how to install a set of these (http://vraptorspeedworks.com/?page_id=430) below the tail lights.

Those look like Saleen SR7 vents.


That would look great. Vman, is it easy to put a license plate and exhaust in your design

Like I said above, not done yet, still needs more shading, shadows etc. , plus different layouts, including exhausts etc.

That gray trim piece you see in the upper ctr vent area, is actually the Lic Plate frame, the Lic Plate fits inside that area flush. It will all make sense once I get them all done. :)

I have about 4 major Ideas for the rear, about the same for the front. Which could be done for the most part without doing any real major changes to the orig panels, except for one or two ideas I have for the front.

David

[timmy318]

You and your talents never cease to amaze me!

[terse]

amazing! love the work.

[carbon fiber]

your designs have great flow. are the 818 body panels fg or plastic? fg-mods no prob.

[Gus]

I would certainly pay a bit of a premium for final tweaks to the styling, to end up with a front end like post #30 and a rear like #24... Jawdropping.

Me too!

[Kwizatz-haderah]

When do we get to see more?

[FFR-ADV]

Nice Work Vman!!!

I am looking forward to seeing more!

Cheers!

[timmy318]

Comeon Vman!!!!! We're dying to see what else you got up your sleeve!!!!! :p

[Vman7]

Working on it. Takes a while to get all the shading, different layouts etc. just right.

[timmy318]

Working on it. Takes a while to get all the shading, different layouts etc. just right.

Haha, I'm messing with yea! Just can't wait to see what you got!

[Darkpiggy's dad]

The original rear on the r version recalls the shapes of the vents on the hood and the deck continuing a design theme. Vman's work on the rear detracts from that symmetry. It is easy to redesign one facet of a thing without adhering to the design concepts of the rest of the work.

[wallace18]

While it is neat to see these changes. I believe with the response to the 818 so far any change would be small if any.

[timmy318]

While it is neat to see these changes. I believe with the response to the 818 so far any change would be small if any.

Well, I don't think these designs will ever be sold from FFR but they definitely will come to life through the individual customer!

[dbjr63]

Vman,
Awesome job and I love to see your modifications. Just an idea, can you open up the air vent on the hood like the GTM or like the Lotus.

Personally I think two air vents on the hood are two small. In my opinion they do not look "aggressive"

[Vman7]

The original rear on the r version recalls the shapes of the vents on the hood and the deck continuing a design theme. Vman's work on the rear detracts from that symmetry. It is easy to redesign one facet of a thing without adhering to the design concepts of the rest of the work.

Oh I guess your an expert.....rofl, checkout the Vantage, then tell me I don't understand symmentry or better yet go and check out Ferrari, Porsche, Lambo, I guess they don't understand symmentry as well.

[Vman7]

I am debating weither or not to retract the above comment...... continue on with my graphics efforts or not, I'll make up my mind sometime to night.

Lets just say I have had my fill of arrogant "so called" know it alls. If someone can't use positive structural criticism, or back up what they are saying, then it's best not to say anything at all.

I am just so sick and tired of the arrogance that some display without giving postive advice. I am not just talking about the things I add to this forum, but others as well. Enough is enough.

[wallace18]

Consider the source. That is what my Mom always told me.

[Mechie3]

Meh, there will always be haters. Personally I like your design and don't think it is a massive departure than somehow renders the hood vents out line with an entire theme. J actually like how your design doesn't look like stacked 2d geometric shapes but are more complex compound curves. Keep the comment, stand up for and defend your work, and continue on. Haters gonna hate.

[timmy318]

Haters gonna hate... Exactly, some people on this forum don't seem to mind what other people think of them....

[NonProfit]

I am just so sick and tired of the arrogance that some display without giving postive advice. I am not just talking about the things I add to this forum, but others as well. Enough is enough.

Vman7, many here appreciate your efforts. I hope you continue to post as long as you find inspiration and enjoyment in creating new mod.s.

Darkpiggy's dad, rather than offering critical opinion, why not design something which meets your aesthetic approval and share your work so we can all enjoy?

[Vman7]

Normally I would just ignore such comments (the hate, arrogant stuff), but some of the people who have joined this forum say in the last 6 months may not remember the ones that used to be regulars here and bash everything and everybody, there was 3 that come to mind, which I won't mention. At anyrate, there comes a time when some of us just have had enough of it.

and thank you for the postive criticism! :)

Ok I have babbled enough......lol

[riptide motorsport]

I am debating weither or not to retract the above comment...... continue on with my graphics efforts or not, I'll make up my mind sometime to night.

Lets just say I have had my fill of arrogant "so called" know it alls. If someone can't use positive structural criticism, or back up what they are saying, then it's best not to say anything at all.

I am just so sick and tired of the arrogance that some display without giving postive advice. I am not just talking about the things I add to this forum, but others as well. Enough is enough.

Vman......................your a Genious........people don't understand genious.

[NonProfit]

At anyrate, there comes a time when some of us just have had enough of it.

I hear ya and I certainly understand why you'd get tired of it. I like seeing what you can do and know others here do as well.

[Vman7]

Vman......................your a Genious........people don't understand genious.

Ok now your making me blush.....lol

Now I have to go get a dose of humility...:p

[timmy318]

Vman, don't let any of those comments get you down! Not many people on this forum can do what you can do(if there are, then correct me please)! IMHO, your designs are what FFR should go with or at least offer as an option. Heck, I'd be content with a template that I would just need to cut out around to make it even look remotely like your design!! All in all Vman, keep up the good work!

[Darkpiggy's dad]

Vman, I'm sorry you feel insulted by my statement, but I did back it up with an example. I didn't mean to rub you wrong. I stated a truth. Sorry it hurt you. I have been a professional designer and builder since 1976 and am always open to criticism, it hurt me too when I was young, it is part of what we do. Do you think the real design team on this car calls you a 'hater' just because you don't approve of their work? I don't think so.

[FFR-ADV]

Hi Vman,

I am glad to see you continue your design modifications. Your work speaks for itself. WELL DONE!

Steve

[timmy318]

People, this thread is dedicated to VMANS' designes and goals. If you don't like them then don't chime in, in the mean while, the rest of us will continue to drool over them.

[Vman7]

ok making me blush again............lol

I guess I will have to set up an Intravenous unit tonight so I can take more dosage of humility........lol

[timmy318]

ok making me blush again............lol

I guess I will have to set up an Intravenous unit tonight so I can take more dosage of humility........lol

Lol!

[Darkpiggy's dad]

Vman, I am really sorry I hurt your feelings. I had no idea that I was going to bruise you. I am sorry. I was merely stating that you were diverging from a theme in the original design. I suppose that I shouldn't have used the word 'detracts'. I wouldn't be on this forum if I didn't think your drawings were interesting,your drawing is nice. Your Vantage was nice too. Also, I know nothing about you but what you draw, I guess I'm sorry about that as well.

[Vman7]

got me thinking about a scene from Gone in 60 seconds (the one with Nicolas Cage) that sums up where I am at kind of right now.......which is a good thing.


http://youtu.be/7eQe_t_z2WM

[Mechie3]

I think the important thing is that it's ok to be critical, but it needs to come across as a factual (as close as possible with opinionated things like looks) argument, not a personal attack. I think the comments might have been founded (from his point of view) but it came across as "you're a bad designer" not "I don't like your design" or "I think it should tie in more elements". As an engineer, I see people get emotionally attached to various concepts and they others aren't tactful enough to critique the design and not the designer.

[Vman7]

I am debating weither or not to retract the above comment...... continue on with my graphics efforts or not, I'll make up my mind sometime to night.

First off, it's not like I just throw something out there, I do a lot of thinking about it, I look at everything over and over again before starting something.

Not going to explain all the thought that goes into my design ideas. Mostly this one. Just look at the front and see if you see an "X" pattern that I see.

2nd I am not in a bad mood, that lasted about 5min.s

3rd I know those who like my stuff as well as others, I enjoy other peoples ideas and designs as well. So don't get upset with what is coming.....

I have made up my mind, at least for now or maybe once the 818 comes out, not to do anymore designs, graphics related to any of the forums here. The only way I will do some is by request from either Dave Smith, FFR, web master or the site Admin.

I'll still be in the forums, just no design work or graphics, unless requested by those I mentioned above.

David

[Kwizatz-haderah]

Aww man:( Your designs were some of the most exciting stuff on this forum. I'm sincerely hoping that you have a change of heart. At least show us the ideas that you told us about for the front before you pull back. Please, pretty please. I'm begging...

[Mechie3]

Noooo! I really enjoyed your creativity and new perspectives.

[Xusia]

That's too bad. I think your ideas showed people what's possible beyond what Factory Five supplies - and fairly realistically at that!

[flynntuna]

That's a good idea to keep it off the forum, but would you consider a blog or An album to post ideas?

[Vman7]

That's a good idea to keep it off the forum, but would you consider a blog or An album to post ideas?

I have a Album for this thread here, just go to the gallery.

[bromikl]

Vman, It sure would be nice if a third party would pick up your designs and offer them as an option.

On that note, a third party might be able to do a Ferrari 458 skin and get away with it! (They wouldn't be selling any cars, now would they?)

[Vman7]

Vman, It sure would be nice if a third party would pick up your designs and offer them as an option.

On that note, a third party might be able to do a Ferrari 458 skin and get away with it! (They wouldn't be selling any cars, now would they?)

That would be cool! as some other with ideas around here. I think the only way that would happen is if the 3rd party a very good relationship with FFR.

Speaking of the Ferrari skin thing, I think it was last week I did a search on a Mercedes Benz Gullwing (the famous one from way back) and what came up was a company that was making a replica of it an Mercedes Benz got a hold of it and destroyed it. Do a search on Mercedes Benz 300 Gullwing.

David

[spaceywilly]

I was thinking Lancia Stratos would be a nice fit...

[timmy318]

Here (http://www.topgear.com/uk/car-news/mercedes-destroys-300sl-gullwing-2012-03-22) it is.....

[carbon fiber]

vman, i know how you feel. i'm redesigning interior/exterior of the gtm and probably won't show anything until i'm pulling parts out of the mold. don't take it too personal. that guy said he'd been designing since 1976, he probably thinks the ferrari 328 gts is the hottest thing since sliced bread! i complimented you on the flow of your designs and i've got great taste! i'm also really humble!lol (all jokes aside, personal taste is just that, personal) i know some people will love my designs and some won't. (they still sale those stupid pink flamingos to put in your front yard, there's no accounting for taste!)

[Vman7]

I was thinking Lancia Stratos would be a nice fit...

I'll have to go check that out, not really a fan of the stratos, but there might be some elements that could give some ideas. BTW way my fav. Lancia is the D24, I love that Lancia.


Here (http://www.topgear.com/uk/car-news/mercedes-destroys-300sl-gullwing-2012-03-22) it is.....

yeah that's it, isn't that something......I went WOW!!


vman, i know how you feel. i'm redesigning interior/exterior of the gtm and probably won't show anything until i'm pulling parts out of the mold. don't take it too personal. that guy said he'd been designing since 1976, he probably thinks the ferrari 328 gts is the hottest thing since sliced bread! i complimented you on the flow of your designs and i've got great taste! i'm also really humble!lol (all jokes aside, personal taste is just that, personal) i know some people will love my designs and some won't. (they still sale those stupid pink flamingos to put in your front yard, there's no accounting for taste!)

Thanks :) I'll have to go check out some of your thread on your car.

If you ever need any help with some ideas let me know.

Now that's funny about the Ferrari, there are some that are cool as all get out, then some that make you think "what was ferrari thinking" like the 328....rofl

[carbon fiber]

you can see the plugs/molds of the door panels and mirrors on my album here. they're the only pieces in the album i'm gonna make. the other stuff i've dropped. i'm gonna post some stuff later on the rest of the interior and the front end when i get closer to being done. keep up the great work, you can see you have some fans here.

[Vman7]

you can see the plugs/molds of the door panels and mirrors on my album here. they're the only pieces in the album i'm gonna make. the other stuff i've dropped. i'm gonna post some stuff later on the rest of the interior and the front end when i get closer to being done. keep up the great work, you can see you have some fans here.

Again thanks :)

I am going over to gallery in few to check out your car.

[bbjones121]

Any other updates?

[Benji]

I think he said he isn't going to be doing any more updates unless explicitly requested by the FFR team... SAD FACE :(

[Vman7]

I have been working on some new stuff, I just can't help myself.......lol, but they won't be posted. I might put them in a new gallery, maybe. I'll have to wait and see.

I decided to take a stand against those with arrogance and a con-descending attitude towards others. I will not compromise my values and principles. As long as I or anyone allows some to think they can be arrogant and con-descending and get away with it, we loose are integrity!

It has nothing to do with the criticism, providing it's not arrogant and con-descending, weither I agree to criticism or not. I don't get my feelings or get so called "bruised" easily.

Like I said it is a matter of integrity, which btw is not being arrogant, it's standing up for my values and principles.

In this case saying your sorry, only means either got caught or feelings of guilt, and especially if the so called apology contains con-descending remarks.

David

[Mechie3]

Just as long as you post or pm me a link to the gallery when it's updated. ;)

[Gus]

I have been working on some new stuff, I just can't help myself.......lol, but they won't be posted. I might put them in a new gallery, maybe. I'll have to wait and see.

I decided to take a stand against those with arrogance and a con-descending attitude towards others. I will not compromise my values and principles. As long as I or anyone allows some to think they can be arrogant and con-descending and get away with it, we loose are integrity!

It has nothing to do with the criticism, providing it's not arrogant and con-descending, weither I agree to criticism or not. I don't get my feeling or get so called "bruised" easily.

Like I said it is a matter of integrity, which bth way is not being arrogant, it's standing up for my values and principles.

In this case saying your sorry, only means either got caught or feelings of guilt, and especially if the so called apology contains con-descending remarks.

David

Good news!!!

I'm personnaly waiting for the coupe/targa top if that ever comes into prod. You NEED to be part of the design as every single thing (drawing/mods) you have come up with have been simply stunning. I know you don't owe anyone anything here, but I'm kind of counting on you to gently steer the 818 coupe design. I really appreciate what you are doing.

Cheers David!

[Vman7]

Good news!!!

I'm personnaly waiting for the coupe/targa top if that ever comes into prod. You NEED to be part of the design as every single thing (drawing/mods) you have come up with have been simply stunning. I know you don't owe anyone anything here, but I'm kind of counting on you to gently steer the 818 coupe design. I really appreciate what you are doing.

Cheers David!

Thanks :)

I can't really say weither or not I will be part of the design process with FFR, that's up to Dave Smith and FFR, sure it would be nice. I have to respect Dave Smith and FFR's decisions that they make for the company in order to produce a quality product and have an exceptable profit margin in order for the company to expand.

David

[carbon fiber]

they should include you. imho. PLEASE don't let anything get in the way of letting your designs shine here. there are lots of others who feel the same way i do, i'm sure. keep 'em coming, even if ffr doesn't use 'em they inspire us builders.

[rjh2pd]

would you consider pmimg people with the pictures, because i am really interested in your concepts. the first thread i read through here was yours when you kept updating your design and loved it. Thanks for all your work!

[timmy318]

would you consider pmimg people with the pictures, because i am really interested in your concepts. the first thread i read through here was yours when you kept updating your design and loved it. Thanks for all your work!

+1!!!!

[slopoke]

Vman ... If you're really not going to post anymore work here, I would love to have a link to your galleries. You, Rodney O, and Shawn Whetstone have been MAJOR contributors here, much to the delight of this forum.Your artwork and ideas will be sorely missed by all.

[Xusia]

Thanks :)

I can't really say weither or not I will be part of the design process with FFR, that's up to Dave Smith and FFR, sure it would be nice. I have to respect Dave Smith and FFR's decisions that they make for the company in order to produce a quality product and have an exceptable profit margin in order for the company to expand.

David

I saw Dave ask TWICE for some ideas/renderings for either a hard top or a soft top (I can't recall which). You saw those, right? If not, please let me know and I'll find the posts!!! :D

[Vman7]

Thanks for the positive posts :)

More then likely I will at least put stuff in a new album of some sort, which is actually kind of good since then people can just look at them w/o having to read thru all the posts. Once I do I will add a link in a new thread.


I saw Dave ask TWICE for some ideas/renderings for either a hard top or a soft top (I can't recall which). You saw those, right? If not, please let me know and I'll find the posts!!! :D

Yes Dave S. did for a softtop and a hardtop coupe design. David H. tried to get some good side shots at SEMA, and I thank him for that. But so far there really isn't any real good side shots or rear of the 818s to really work with to do it any justice.

David

[FFR-ADV]

ok here is a teaser....lol

Yes it's the new 818, yes those are real taillights (hella), and yes the taillights are to scale......lol

The idea is to use modules for everythings, taillight area, ctr section (molded in) etc., that way you can swap out the desired look you are looking for.

Not finished with it yet, but I thought I would post what I have so far, needs more shading, shadows etc. I also have a few other ideas.

This is keeping me busy until there are some really good pics for doing the coupe/targa.

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=12963&d=1351811641
12963

HI David,

I can see some of the Avenger as well as your Vantage design in this. Looking forward to seeing more of your great work. YOu have an eye for details that really make a difference. Hope you are having a nice holiday season!

Everyone,

If you know of a straight on rear or side view of the 818S would you please post it here for our friend Vman7 to work with?

Happy New Year!

[Vman7]

HI David,

I can see some of the Avenger as well as your Vantage design in this. Looking forward to seeing more of your great work. YOu have an eye for details that really make a difference. Hope you are having a nice holiday season!

Everyone,

If you know of a straight on rear or side view of the 818S would you please post it here for our friend Vman7 to work with?

Happy New Year!

Steve, some parts like the tail lights and Lic Plate area are derived from the Vantage and reshaped. Nothing really from the Avenger, but I can see how it somewhat gives that look.

The rear shot of this 818R is actually pretty good, centered, right angle from top to bottom, could be just a little lower. The only problem with this shot is when taking the shot, should have been further back, can tell by how much curve is in the fenders, which is from the camera lens, other then that pic is just about right.

Steve, thanks for asking for some rear shots :), I might have to post some pics of some other cars to show what would be a good pic to work with.

David

[Vman7]

I have a better idea then the last design I did for the 818 rear. I started working on it around Thanksgiving, not done though.

[SamKor]

Should we all PM or email FFR that we prefer VMAN's front / rear designs? if we create enough traction, FFR may consider it .

Love Your design works on this 818. Please keep up the super creativities and great design works.

Thanks!

[carbon fiber]

that coupe design would triple sales i'd bet.

[timmy318]

Should we all PM or email FFR that we prefer VMAN's front / rear designs? if we create enough traction, FFR may consider it .

Love Your design works on this 818. Please keep up the super creativities and great design works.

Thanks!

I don't think we should do that. What they've designed is great for the kit price! What I'd like to see is some options for the front/rear. That would be a good sales booster! Also, no coupe now but down the line after they've sold enough kits they'll roll out some more versions!

[FFR-ADV]

I have a better idea then the last design I did for the 818 rear. I started working on it around Thanksgiving, not done though.

Thanks David,

That is great news! Does the new design allow cutouts to the current 818 rear deck with custom molded inserts and other add-on parts?

Cheers!

Steve

[wallace18]

I find it odd that there has been no exhaust ot of the center back of the 818 so far. I think this is a great design cue that has been missed so far. I hope to do it to my S on order.

[Vman7]

Thanks David,

That is great news! Does the new design allow cutouts to the current 818 rear deck with custom molded inserts and other add-on parts?

Cheers!

Steve

No cutouts for the rear deck, just the rear. I do have some ideas for the rear deck for the coupe though, but that might not come about until the so called coupe design gets more cues from Dave Smith.


I find it odd that there has been no exhaust ot of the center back of the 818 so far. I think this is a great design cue that has been missed so far. I hope to do it to my S on order.

I have a center dual exhaust in mind :), Tricky part is getting it to work with the rear of the transaxle, since the transaxle is so close to the rear panel.

[wallace18]

There looks to be lots of room above the transaxle IMO. I will try to put mine in that area with a oval or rounded rectangular tip.

[FFR-ADV]

No cutouts for the rear deck, just the rear. I do have some ideas for the rear deck for the coupe though, but that might not come about until the so called coupe design gets more cues from Dave Smith.



I have a center dual exhaust in mind :), Tricky part is getting it to work with the rear of the transaxle, since the transaxle is so close to the rear panel.

Hi David,

Thats great!

Happy New Year!

Steve

[Vman7]

Here is the Rear I was talking about. Trying to keep the basic shape of the rear.

Keep in mind this is not done. Just a layout and some shading here and there.

Factory Five embossed panel.

This would work for both the R & S models.

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=14203&d=1356832556
14203

[Vman7]

The biggest challenge is allowing for the Lic. Plates (USA, Euro, AUS) The one above is for both USA & AUS. The Euro one is wider and shorter in height, just changing where the vent screen would be open.

[FFR-ADV]

Hi David,

Very nice! There would be no need for a downpipe as the exhaust could come straight back from the turbo with the exhaust turning 90 degrees into a central muffler over the transmission which then has two exhaust ports onn each side with the pipes routed to the locations you show in your picture. The muffler would be simylar to ones used in late model WRX dual exhausts. Awesome job!

Happy New Year!

Steve

[GUNS]

Wow, I love it!

[timmy318]

Hi David,

Very nice! There would be no need for a downpipe as the exhaust could come straight back from the turbo with the exhaust turning 90 degrees into a central muffler over the transmission which then has two exhaust ports onn each side with the pipes routed to the locations you show in your picture. The muffler would be simylar to ones used in late model WRX dual exhausts. Awesome job!

Happy New Year!

Steve

Who said anything about a muffler? :p

[wallace18]

That dual exhaust is looking great. I may change my mind of the single. Great work. Vman7 could you work up some ideas for the intercooler inlet for the S? I am thinking about doing some sort of ram air for the intercooler. May all have a great 2013!

[flytosail]

The biggest challenge is allowing for the Lic. Plates (USA, Euro, AUS) The one above is for both USA & AUS. The Euro one is wider and shorter in height, just changing where the vent screen would be open.


Twenty five states also require front plates.

[metalmaker12]

looks sick vman, i wish i had your software, cause i got some other good ideas to mod this 818's front. I think the overall FFR design is good, it just needs some tightening up in the front and rear

[FFR-ADV]

looks sick vman, i wish i had your software, cause i got some other good ideas to mod this 818's front.

Hi metalmaker12,

I have used a free opensource editor called Gimp. There are many Youtube how to videos from basics to complex on car modifications. Have fun!

Happy New Year!

[riptide motorsport]

Man......that is sweet !! nice work.

[bbjones121]

That looks amazing. I hope that FFR can do something like this on the final car. Can you edit out the side exhaust? That should be pretty easy?

[metalmaker12]

FFR is not going to change a thing at this point, but we can, that is part of the whole idea of building your own car and putting your signature on it.

Thanks for the gimp advice, going to take some time to play

[metalmaker12]

[QUOTE=metalmaker12;85495]FFR is not going to change a thing at this point, but we can, that is part of the whole idea of building your own car and putting your signature on it.

FFR-ADV :Thanks for the gimp advice, but I can't get it to work on my Mac OS x 10.5 going to take some time to play, but it seem to be a problem to run on my setup. I could run it at work, but I will have limited time to use it, If you have any advice let me know.

[FFR-ADV]

HI metalmaker12,

Sorry, but I have only used GIMP on Windows platforms.

I agree that FFR will not likely change its design direction at this time. However, the good news is that Vman7s great design can be achieved by using different cut outs of the 818 as designed. There is always a chance that a third party will fabricate the other inserted panels if FFR does not. FFR gives us the canvas to create variations on the art.

Happy New Year!

[speedboy]

FFR-ADV :Thanks for the gimp advice, but I can't get it to work on my Mac OS x 10.5 going to take some time to play, but it seem to be a problem to run on my setup. I could run it at work, but I will have limited time to use it, If you have any advice let me know.[/QUOTE]


You have to install a program called X11 before you can use Gimp on a Mac. http://darwingimp.sourceforge.net/guides/install_leopard/

[Benji]

The biggest challenge is allowing for the Lic. Plates (USA, Euro, AUS) The one above is for both USA & AUS. The Euro one is wider and shorter in height, just changing where the vent screen would be open.

Not entirely sure about the EU but the UK does allow for a more 'square' rear number plate, for example:

http://www.carpages.co.uk/land_rover/land-rover-images/land_rover_discovery_rear_25_07_04.jpg

[Vman7]

Ok uploaded a few quick and dirty Rear mock-ups.

Hella 9001 Tail Lights (same ones FFR used for turn signal)
http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=37384&d=1420662446

.5" x 7.5" x 3 LED
http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=37383&d=1420662442

.5" x custom length x 3 LED
http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=37382&d=1420662438

Custom Shape LEDs
http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=37381&d=1420662434

Hella 3130
http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=37380&d=1420662337

I could mock-up stuff all day, but I would rather do it right :)

David

[Kurk818]

David - What is right?

Im really liking the 2nd and 3rd one down. You have quite the talent for this!

[Vman7]

David - What is right?

Doing it with a good rear photo and have everything blend in, so it looks real, the right shading, sizes right etc., not just a mock-up.

All the tail lights, exhaust are pretty close to scale on the mock-ups though.

[Hindsight]

Vman, welcome back... you have been missed :)

Love the ones above.... first and last are my fav but they are all great.

Would be interested in seeing your ideas for a single exhaust (non-center mount), since doing dual looks cool but is really tough on this car.

[Vman7]

Vman, welcome back... you have been missed :)

Love the ones above.... first and last are my fav but they are all great.

Would be interested in seeing your ideas for a single exhaust (non-center mount), since doing dual looks cool but is really tough on this car.

Thanks :) always here, just not in the 818 section.

I have heard that also about the dual exhaust. I guess it has to do with the transaxle.

Not sure where to put a single exhaust, I would have to think about it.

[Hindsight]

Yeah, I can't think of a good option either so I've been planning on having it hidden but if someone came up with a cool idea, I'd use it!

Ever think of learning to make fiberglass molds and making some parts as a side biz ;)

[Vman7]

Yeah, I can't think of a good option either so I've been planning on having it hidden but if someone came up with a cool idea, I'd use it!

Ever think of learning to make fiberglass molds and making some parts as a side biz ;)

Actually I have. I have done some fiberglass work before, but is was mostly patch work when I had my jet boat back in the early 80s in Norcross, GA

I would love to do a bunch molds etc.

My biggest problem is either lack of funds and or a place to do stuff, and right now it's been both. Money has been really tight about the last 8yr.s. Still waiting on that lottery check....rofl

[Mechie3]

Stop....just stop. Too many good things I can't have! Haha!

The first is a bit supra-ish (not a bad thing). I like the idea of splitting that section into two with a solid plate on top and mesh on the bottom. I like the third and fourth one as well. Time to make a new bumper....

[Kurk818]

The more i think about it, the more i want to do the 1st design. Any idea where to buy those lights as a running/brake light?

With my intent to put the fmic in the rear, i dont think ill be able to split it up the way he has it, even tho i like it that way.

[Harley818]

where are you guys going to look at these pics?

[Vman7]

where are you guys going to look at these pics?

Some were moved by me to albums, the new ones posted lately you should be able see, unless you came in on this page and then logged in, you have to refresh the page for some reason when doing that.

Later today sometime I will start a new 818 thread like my other design threads (like Vman's 33 hot rod design ideas) and put links to all of my 818 threads and albums all in one place.

David

[Vman7]

Stop....just stop. Too many good things I can't have! Haha!

The first is a bit supra-ish (not a bad thing). I like the idea of splitting that section into two with a solid plate on top and mesh on the bottom. I like the third and fourth one as well. Time to make a new bumper....

lol...yeah I get the same vibe from the 1st one also.........supra-ish.

[Vman7]

The more i think about it, the more i want to do the 1st design. Any idea where to buy those lights as a running/brake light?

With my intent to put the fmic in the rear, i dont think ill be able to split it up the way he has it, even tho i like it that way.

go to Susquehanna Motorsports (http://www.rallylights.com/)

The split between the top and bottom (top-tail lights/bottom vent) in the mock-ups doesn't really show how they are the vents are set back where the inset for the orig tail lights are and tail lights above are flush, more outward. To get an idea get out the rear on my Vantage. Of course it would be a different shape and tail lights, but you get an idea of how the vent is back and the tail lights are flush.

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=16035&d=1362973362

David

[FFR-ADV]

David,

Welcome back! Nice to see your work finding its way into the 818 again. Nice work!

I hope we get to see what Factory Five did with your Hardtop design soon.

Cheers!

[Kalstar]

I like #3 but the middle bar needs to be amber for a turn signal and maybe a one strip brake light high in the middle. Fantastic designs.

[Kurk818]

go to Susquehanna Motorsports (http://www.rallylights.com/)

The split between the top and bottom (top-tail lights/bottom vent) in the mock-ups doesn't really show how they are the vents are set back where the inset for the orig tail lights are and tail lights above are flush, more outward. To get an idea get out the rear on my Vantage. Of course it would be a different shape and tail lights, but you get an idea of how the vent is back and the tail lights are flush.

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=16035&d=1362973362

David

Ah, yes, i didnt notice that detail from the original rendering. I like it.

Also, it says the lights are discontinued.

[Mechie3]

Also, it says the lights are discontinued.

They might be discontinued because they have an LED replacement. Look for p/n 2PF 009 001-421. I don't know if they come with colored lenses or not.

[Kurk818]

They might be discontinued because they have an LED replacement. Look for p/n 2PF 009 001-421. I don't know if they come with colored lenses or not.

http://www.rallylights.com/all/lights/signal-position/hella-9001-series-signal-lamps-66mm-12v.html

[carbon fiber]

David, FFr should hire you. They could use someone who has the skillset you have. They talked about alternative bodies for the 818 already, they'd be stupid not to bring you in for the design work, IMHO. FFR, are you listening??? (They already used your hardtop) I also understand not wanting to give all your ideas out and then have someone make them and you get no credit or money for it. Just one of the reasons I'm not showing any of my GTM redesign until it's finished being built. I know the builders here appreciate the ideas, but it's a shame you're not compensated somehow for all the work.

[Frank818]

The mock-ups are great, but who's going to mold and fab the bumper and provide lights? :)
I'm a buyer right now.

[Kurk818]

The mock-ups are great, but who's going to mold and fab the bumper and provide lights? :)
I'm a buyer right now.

Which one is more appealing to you?

[Louisromersh]

So I'm going to throw my 2 cents in I liked the 3rd design but I would make a few minor changes that I think would be nice.
37397

First I would move the Backup lights to be one on each set of lights & then I would replace the third LED with a Turn signal either in Orange or Amber.

[Frank818]

Which one is more appealing to you?

I'm debating with myself, but from post #147, 3rd and 4th pix are my top 1.
With the 1 reverse light integrated in the diffuser. And luckily, though I have to respect some heights on the other lights around the car, the reverse light can be fitted anywhere at any height, so I'm good with the law on that one. :)

[Vman7]

Thanks for all the comments! :)

I'll address everything posted lately. It looks like a few are on the same subject.

I see that the Hella 9001 tail light might be discontinued. I'll have to check my resources on that. Hella has in one of their own sites (hard to navigate btw, hard to find the spec pages unless you know where to go) that has everything etc.

If it is true that Hella has discontinued the 9001 series which is the center light to the ring/center light combo 9362 (LED ring)/9001 (ctr light). There is going to be trouble FFR once they run out of them for the 818, and not to mention all the companies around the world that use that combo on their cars. I'll look into it.

David

[Vman7]

I like #3 but the middle bar needs to be amber for a turn signal and maybe a one strip brake light high in the middle. Fantastic designs.


So I'm going to throw my 2 cents in I liked the 3rd design but I would make a few minor changes that I think would be nice.
37397

First I would move the Backup lights to be one on each set of lights & then I would replace the third LED with a Turn signal either in Orange or Amber.

I like that! :)


I'm debating with myself, but from post #147, 3rd and 4th pix are my top 1.
With the 1 reverse light integrated in the diffuser. And luckily, though I have to respect some heights on the other lights around the car, the reverse light can be fitted anywhere at any height, so I'm good with the law on that one. :)

Keep in mind those were just some ideas I through together quick. I love all the suggestions on LED strips. BU light(s) could go almost anywhere, just depends on the overall look on the best placement, which would be a few. LED Turn could be in a bunch of different combos when it comes to strip LED, or even for the oval and round LED types (haven't posted any yet).

David

[Vman7]

The mock-ups are great, but who's going to mold and fab the bumper and provide lights? :)
I'm a buyer right now.

Very good question. Not sure, it would be nice if either FFR or a 3rd Party would pick up some of this stuff.

Somewhere in one of my threads I talked about how the rear and the rest of the 818 could done in modules/componet, and just by changing the module or componet you have a different look.

David

[Vman7]

David, FFr should hire you. They could use someone who has the skillset you have. They talked about alternative bodies for the 818 already, they'd be stupid not to bring you in for the design work, IMHO. FFR, are you listening??? (They already used your hardtop) I also understand not wanting to give all your ideas out and then have someone make them and you get no credit or money for it. Just one of the reasons I'm not showing any of my GTM redesign until it's finished being built. I know the builders here appreciate the ideas, but it's a shame you're not compensated somehow for all the work.

Thanks Jason :) yeah it really makes me wonder about my stuff as well.

[Vman7]

I checked a few of my resources, mostly the main Hella ones, and on Hella's own official catalog site it still has the 9001 series, they don't have it listed as 9001 though, just as SKU #. It makes me wonder if Hella still makes/sells them for USA though.

[C.Plavan]

I like the LED rear bumper..... I would buy right now if it was offered too.

[bbjones121]

Hey David, Would you be able to do the LED option with the diffuser that FFR offers? I like yours, but it doesnt match the rest of the carbon bits.

[Vman7]

Hey David, Would you be able to do the LED option with the diffuser that FFR offers? I like yours, but it doesnt match the rest of the carbon bits.

No problem, that diffuser is just a quick mock-up anyways.

[Mechie3]

I like his diffuser better. Lol

[Kurk818]

Thanks for all the comments! :)

I'll address everything posted lately. It looks like a few are on the same subject.

I see that the Hella 9001 tail light might be discontinued. I'll have to check my resources on that. Hella has in one of their own sites (hard to navigate btw, hard to find the spec pages unless you know where to go) that has everything etc.

If it is true that Hella has discontinued the 9001 series which is the center light to the ring/center light combo 9362 (LED ring)/9001 (ctr light). There is going to be trouble FFR once they run out of them for the 818, and not to mention all the companies around the world that use that combo on their cars. I'll look into it.

David

I called the store, they have the red 9001 lights in stock (more than 4 anyways that i asked for them to verify in stock).

Im not looking to spend another $220 shipped at the moment for the lights. Im going to play around with the LED strips when they arrive before making the leap.

[Vman7]

I called the store, they have the red 9001 lights in stock (more than 4 anyways that i asked for them to verify in stock).

Im not looking to spend another $220 shipped at the moment for the lights. Im going to play around with the LED strips when they arrive before making the leap.

Sounds good :)

[Vman7]

Still researching the Hella lights. They have come out with a few new ones, but that can really work with the 818.
Hella's catalog does show those 9001 series in a few places, so it looks like they still make them, just a matter of seeing where and if they still are selling them in the USA.

Downside with LEDs is they can get real expensive fast.

[Kurk818]

Still researching the Hella lights. They have come out with a few new ones, but that can really work with the 818.
Hella's catalog does show those 9001 series in a few places, so it looks like they still make them, just a matter of seeing where and if they still are selling them in the USA.

Downside with LEDs is they can get real expensive fast.

Looking further into the LED strip that i bought, a lot of the reviews state that the LED strip overheated and eventually burned out. This was kind of disappointing.I really want the LED strip to be pretty much sold with no individual LED standing out.

If anyone knows of a source for something like that and the can be adjusted for length, let me know.

[Harley818]

Love your designs Vman. Your sense of design is right on. keep em coming, I haven't started bodywork yet!

[Vman7]

Love your designs Vman. Your sense of design is right on. keep em coming, I haven't started bodywork yet!

Thanks :)

[Vman7]

Looking further into the LED strip that i bought, a lot of the reviews state that the LED strip overheated and eventually burned out. This was kind of disappointing.I really want the LED strip to be pretty much sold with no individual LED standing out.

If anyone knows of a source for something like that and the can be adjusted for length, let me know.

Kurk, here are couple of sites to start with.
http://www.watsons-streetworks.com/exterior-lighting
http://www.lambertenterprises.com/

[Vman7]

I have the Vman's 818 Design Ideas (http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showthread.php?16689-Vman-s-818-Design-Ideas)thread up. It has all the links to 818 albums, links to my old 818 threads, plus all the current pics from all the 818 albums posted.

[DruOdil]

How about one peace hood and truck37629

[Vman7]

How about one peace hood and truck37629

I think FFR is trying to avoid that, and stay with individual panels.

[C.Plavan]

I think FFR is trying to avoid that, and stay with individual panels.

Yeah- One bump, and its and expensive fix (And more likely $$$$$$$ shipping of a new clamshell..... No thanks)

[Boog]

Yeah- One bump, and its and expensive fix (And more likely $$$$$$$ shipping of a new clamshell..... No thanks)

I was thinking more that some assortment of shipped parts would be attached together to form a larger clamshell portion. It would just need to be designed with more structure and a large hinge in mind.

[flynntuna]

Theirs nothing stopping anyone from doing that. Some of the Roadster guys have done it with their cobras