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Flamshackle
06-08-2012, 12:09 AM
Dave Smith has stated that it would be a "world car". and offered in RHD as well as left which is fan flippin tastic for us over the seas folk!

Since the release of the design sneak peak (which turned into a storm) I have been even more determined to build this car right here in New Zealand. To do this I need to sort through what will be the true costs to get the job done.

I have done my best from this end and know that I need low volume street certification and crack testing on all fabricated components :( This will cost a packet but the missing link is now the shipping costs.

I am assuming that FFR have a local cartage agent they have given the contract to but would love to have some information from FFR (or a customer with experience?)

Also will this car be Metric like a true world car or will it be the old fashioned (read; out dated and strange ;)) Imperial system?

Thanks any help from forum members or from Dave or one of the FFR team would be greatly appreciated as I put pennies away for this project.

DaveM
06-08-2012, 12:13 PM
Flamshackle

Since these guys are in your neck of the woods they might able to help with the shipping questions you have.

Dave

FYI-from Factory Fives website under "international orders"



International Orders - Australia

Component Cars Australia Named Exclusive FFR Australian Agent

Chris Canning and Team Help Import Factory Fives into Australia

Chris Canning and the crew at Component Cars Australia have been working with our guys here at Factory Five to finalize a distribution agreement down under. We met Chris a few years ago and he has since imported a Factory Five Roadster, and begun specializing in building and selling our component car kits in Australia.



Component Cars Australia is located in Morley, a suburb of Perth, on the west coast. Chris has a related company in Brisbane on the east coast and trucks that travel between the two, so he has good coverage of the country.
Chris will be dealing exclusively in Factory Five products. In the short term offering a couple of turn key cars but focused mainly on retail kit sales and custom shop resellers. Chris has a container for four Factory Fives on the way, so if you live in Australia and you’re looking to score a deal on a Factory Five, Chris might just be your guy.

Contact Information:
Component Cars Australia
142 Russell Road, Morley (6062)
Perth, Western Australia
0420 360 891
chris.canning17@gmail.com
componentcars.com.au

Dave Smith
President




Dave Smith has stated that it would be a "world car". and offered in RHD as well as left which is fan flippin tastic for us over the seas folk!

Since the release of the design sneak peak (which turned into a storm) I have been even more determined to build this car right here in New Zealand. To do this I need to sort through what will be the true costs to get the job done.

I have done my best from this end and know that I need low volume street certification and crack testing on all fabricated components :( This will cost a packet but the missing link is now the shipping costs.

I am assuming that FFR have a local cartage agent they have given the contract to but would love to have some information from FFR (or a customer with experience?)

Also will this car be Metric like a true world car or will it be the old fashioned (read; out dated and strange ;)) Imperial system?

Thanks any help from forum members or from Dave or one of the FFR team would be greatly appreciated as I put pennies away for this project.

Evan78
06-08-2012, 03:38 PM
...This will cost a packet...Just curious, what does "packet" mean? A lot? Don't hear much NZ slang in the U.S.


Also will this car be Metric like a true world car or will it be the old fashioned (read; out dated and strange ;)) Imperial system?Good question, I hope for metric also since I've only owned Japanese cars so I only own metric tools. I assume FFR's previous projects used imperial since they're using American engines, hopefully they use all metric hardware on the 818 since it is intended for a Japanese engine at launch.

Flamshackle
06-08-2012, 03:43 PM
Just curious, what does "packet" mean? A lot? Don't hear much NZ slang in the U.S.

Hahaha, sorry yes a "packet" means a lot! Sorry for the kiwi talk...


Good question, I hope for metric also since I've only owned Japanese cars so I only own metric tools. I assume FFR's previous projects used imperial since they're using American engines, hopefully they use all metric hardware on the 818 since it is intended for a Japanese engine at launch.

Same ^

PhyrraM
06-08-2012, 08:50 PM
While I don't know what fasteners FFR uses for thier kits, I can tell you that most of the donor motors are indeed metric. Ford switched to metric fasteners in the '80s. (About the same time the "302" became the "5.0") IIRC, GM switched about the same time also.

+1 for hoping FFR uses metric fasteners on the 818. Bonus points for keeping it (wrench/bolt heads) to 8mm, 10mm, 12mm, 14mm, 17mm, and 19mm. Subarus do not use 9mm, 11mm, 13mm, 15mm, 16mm, or 18mm.

shim2
06-08-2012, 09:04 PM
+1 to metric

Flamshackle
06-08-2012, 09:45 PM
What about shipping? Has anyone on here ever had to have their kit shipped internationally?

NonProfit
06-08-2012, 10:50 PM
What about shipping? Has anyone on here ever had to have their kit shipped internationally?
Cost to ship a car from California to Hawai'i (http://www.matson.com/pov/booking/shipping_rates.htm) is $1,072.

Yes, I know that's not international :) but we used to live there and it wasn't uncommon for folks to be waiting as people fly lots faster than boats sail.

Edit: However, these kits won't be cars yet so I doubt this applies. Sorry

Mechie3
06-09-2012, 01:01 AM
From my second hand experience with friends shipping small f500 race cars, it's cheaper to ship components vs a car. As soon as the word "car" appears on the shipping bill prices double. Since the 818 is not a car, you can hopefully save a little "packet". ;)

Another +1 for metric. My F440 uses a japanese engine with metric hardware but every thing else is standard. Bit of a pain in the butt.

Martin
06-09-2012, 03:26 AM
Flamshackle - I'm getting my shipped to the UK in a few months time.

Lessons learned:
1) Make sure it is all in parts. In the UK, that means I pay 4% VAT instead of 20% VAT on anything assembled.
2) Get it crated in a solid box.
3) Consider getting it put into it's own container, or get the use of a part share container.

You might also want to contact the Australian dealer for FFR kits. He must have imported at least a dozen cars in the past 12 months to Australia and will probably be able to give you ball park costs.

Or, just call FFR. They ship cars all over the world, all the time. I think Dave said that over half of their sales were now overseas.

Let me know how you get on, because at some point, my car will be getting shipped (complete) to NZ when I finally get to go home.

Martin

Flamshackle
06-09-2012, 03:37 AM
Thanks for the comments so far,

I will have to pay GST of 15% no matter which way I slice it. So if it's in a container or box or what I still have a big tax bill to pay.

I will give FFR a call to get something more concrete.

riptide motorsport
06-09-2012, 10:15 AM
There's guys in Australia that have done a bunch of roadsters and at least one Daytona....FFR is familiar with the nuances of this type of transaction......Steven

riptide motorsport
06-09-2012, 10:18 AM
here you go: http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showthread.php?2769-Factory-Five-International&highlight=australia