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I have looked at most of the posts on the type 65 section of this Forum and I see that people are asking price to build a kit. Well I thought of the same thing what I did was developed a Spreadsheet that does just that. The more accurate the inputs the more accurate your costs. I have it filled with what I would do if I had unlimited funds. The fist three tabs are the costs that I have put in, the rest are notes to myself. I would have posted it but it is to big and I can email to those who want it. So that it can not be scanned by spammers ( I have removed my email )
For those who do not have Microsoft Excel can download for free Open Office at http://www.openoffice.org/download/ it will work just as well.
I hope that it helps figure your costs less labor as that depends on how fast you assemble your kit.
There is no reason that it cannot be adapted for any kit that Factory Five Racing sells!!!!
Eric
If there any questions please ask I will do my best to answer them. Like the reason I would use MegaSqurit EMC as shown in the Electrical tab, is that it allows me to do coil on plug (i.e. like LS1 through LS7 or 4.6 mod motor) as well as sequential fuel injection on an older design 351w, or that can switch between high octane or E85 if I were to put on a E85 sensor. It would be only non-emissions motor.
It is free to use just let people know were you got it.
Benji
05-25-2012, 09:20 PM
You can post it up on a website like Google Doc's (https://docs.google.com/) and then people won't even need to have Open Office/Excel to view it.
I'd be interested in what the results are. I'm also curious as to what turnkey costs would be as well.
Benji I have decide to remove this as it has become that I am wrong and you are right. and that is not the point
riptide motorsport
05-26-2012, 08:13 AM
Eric,,,if you don't care if you say " I built it" , it would be cheaper to buy a built one right now.............Steven
True, but not as fun (gray hairs). Also, would not have alot of what is on the sheet.
The reason I posted it so that others can price their own.
loeffler1
05-26-2012, 12:00 PM
For 95 grand what in the world are you putting into this coupe? A $50,000 racing engine??? Gold plated amenities??? I thought $50,000 was high for a budget
Riptide, for this price he must not be building it, 40% to 50% must be labor!!!
Bill
For 95 grand what in the world are you putting into this coupe? A $50,000 racing engine??? Gold plated amenities??? I thought $50,000 was high for a budget
Riptide, for this price he must not be building it, 40% to 50% must be labor!!!
Bill
Well it started out simple enough but you now how it goes. If you look at the speadsheet you can see how much gold filling.
Eric
Jacob McCrea
05-26-2012, 05:38 PM
I think the spreadsheet is helpful insofar as it gives an idea of how quickly the small costs can add up. As far as I can tell, all of the component prices are "full retail," and all of the parts are "best of the best," to say the least. I doubt most folks would care to purchase, or need, most of the higher end parts, and you can certainly find and refurbish a lot of used parts (particularly differentials and IRS knuckles) for far less than new. Just looking at it quickly, a few parts are redundant, e.g., an SAI mod kit is not needed with a complete kit. Still, I think it's an effective tool for someone who wants to get a reality-based understanding of how the costs add up. Also, welcome to the forum Eric.
As I said it started out simple then grew into what if you wanted the best, such as power windows. Not many people want power windows. You can make it as simple or complex as you need. It also can be when you are finish be a reference as to what you purchased. That way when some one asks what is in your car, you can show them.
John Dol
05-28-2012, 08:16 PM
Eric,
Any pics or video of your ride?
Thanks,
John
Just in my mind as I have not purchase anything yet.
Need a job that I can afford such, still working on that.
hrosenthal
05-30-2012, 01:01 PM
Great spreadsheet. It gives me a lot to think about.
Benji
05-30-2012, 08:44 PM
The link for me doesn't work, is there another place I can see it?
Benji:
I guess that you need to setup account to get at.
I do have it set so that anyone can edit it.
I can email it to you if you want.
Eric
Hankl
05-31-2012, 10:21 AM
As Jake said, the spreadsheet is full of "Bling", I see this as a disservice to someone with a normal amount of funds looking into building one of these Coupes.
Paddel shifter and sequential gearbox, come on, get real about what we are building. $30-40K is a more than a doable budget for a new owner to build a very decent Coupe.
Hank
Hank:
That is what I said it is gold plated, but then they can remove what they do not want which is easier than to add it.
It is all a matter of person preference.
Check the GTM post I had a discussion with one person that is looking at almost 100K and he is using a sequential gear box that is a lot more than one for the 65. So it not beyond the relam of possibilities.
I would not recommend this for some starting out, but if you are looking the best of the best to go racing.
Eric
Hankl
05-31-2012, 11:50 AM
but if you are looking the best of the best to go racing.
Eric
Sorry, but a sequential gear box is prohibited in the class that the Coupe will run in, again, you need to make this real world to provide people looking at this to see if they can build a Coupe.
If someone was to just pop in and see that what you have written as gospel, they would most likely be scared off from even considering a build. That's not what we are here for, we need to
encourage those without "Deep Pockets" to pursue their dream, that's what Hot Rodding is all about.
Hank
Benji
05-31-2012, 12:35 PM
Yeah, I just managed to get it to work, a quick glance over and I can see about $20k-25k that is unnecessary already.
As for the 'best of the best to go racing', I'm not sure how many racers have cruise control or a CarPC with a 12.1 LCD screen in there...
As far as I can tell, if you want a nice coupe for the street you'd be looking at the best part of $50k if using all new parts, this seemed to be about the average ball park. If you wanted to go racing you could probably get away with a lot less.
I see what you are trying to say but it looks like you may have just gone through and picked lots of expensive things in catalogues.
CHOTIS BILL
06-01-2012, 09:16 AM
I think what Eric has done is just setup a spreadsheet as a model to show what is out there and how the spreadsheet works and not saying anyone should build a car like this. It is so we can use it to put in the parts we want to use. It is a good way to keep track of what we want to buy and how much we still need to spend.
Bill Lomenick
Gale K
06-01-2012, 11:44 AM
I was about to chime in and say the say thing Bill. :) Just wanting the thread to go in a different direction than it seems to be going. I think a spreadsheet with options is a great idea. How much or how many ideas, gotta haves, don't needs, etc. is up to the individual builder.
JMHO, YMMV
Build on!
Hankl
06-01-2012, 11:53 AM
I received a PM that Eric was not going to post here any more, so for those interested,
I suggest you download the Excel sheet and save it for later use.
Hank :cool: