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Hammink Performance
04-18-2012, 07:54 AM
Allright so here it go's!

I am building a Coyote powered Factory Five Challenge car. Since this is the first FFR I build using the Coyote motor, I would like to ask you guys if I am not missing anything. Nothing is mounted fixed jet, but I am just waiting for my header flanges, CAI, and P/S hardware you guys, before I do mount everything for the last time.to come before I can start the car, so now would be the time to ask

(btw it's also the first race car I built, so also here I am open to any tips or comments!)

http://i924.photobucket.com/albums/ad88/hamminkperformance/Challenge%20car/DSCN2537.jpg
http://i924.photobucket.com/albums/ad88/hamminkperformance/Challenge%20car/DSCN2538.jpg
engine bay shots


http://i924.photobucket.com/albums/ad88/hamminkperformance/Challenge%20car/DSCN2539.jpg
http://i924.photobucket.com/albums/ad88/hamminkperformance/Challenge%20car/DSCN2540.jpg
back side of engine


http://i924.photobucket.com/albums/ad88/hamminkperformance/Challenge%20car/DSCN2541.jpg
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top view of engine bay


http://i924.photobucket.com/albums/ad88/hamminkperformance/Challenge%20car/DSCN2543.jpg
did I hook up the alternator correctly? What can I do for oil pressure sender (for the gauge) since I am using oil filter relocation

Hammink Performance
04-18-2012, 09:06 AM
http://i924.photobucket.com/albums/ad88/hamminkperformance/Challenge%20car/DSCN2544.jpg
front mounted oil filter for easy service acces, also plan to run oil cooler from there forward. (will test the car without first)
the belt shows where the P/S pump will come
http://i924.photobucket.com/albums/ad88/hamminkperformance/Challenge%20car/DSCN2545.jpg
oil temp gauge sending unit
http://i924.photobucket.com/albums/ad88/hamminkperformance/Challenge%20car/DSCN2547.jpg
is this a valid location for the water temp sending unit? its in front of the passenger side cyl head
http://i924.photobucket.com/albums/ad88/hamminkperformance/Challenge%20car/DSCN2548.jpg

E-Ticket Ride
04-18-2012, 08:52 PM
Looks great.
I am no expert, as I have yet to purchase my Coyote, let alone install it.

Good luck!

Jester
04-18-2012, 09:30 PM
I have asked Ford Racing about the water temp sensor location and there is a frost plug on the drivers side that can be used for the water temp sensor (with an adapter) see photo.889788988899

I have attached a few other pics as well

mike forte
04-18-2012, 10:11 PM
Hi,
I added 2 heater billet aluminum hose plugs to cover the unused water hose connections. These are superior to the rubber hose plugs that are prone to "popping" which then pukes all the coolant. This happens on the hottest days or while racing..

Hammink Performance
04-19-2012, 06:15 AM
@ Jester,

Thank you for the photo's, I fear though that if I use your location for the water temp sensor, that there will be no room for an oil pressure sender. (if there is now)

Does anybody know if the location I choose is valid for a gauge sender?

johngeorge
04-19-2012, 07:41 AM
very cool! challenge car with a coyote in it, jealous

ClemsonS197
04-19-2012, 07:59 AM
Looks good so far. I put the water temp sensor in the supply line to my heater so I can't comment on your location. Also, the 2011+ Mustangs have a line from the top of the radiator back in to the overflow. I assume it's to keep an air pocket at the top of the radiator from forming. I used the 2011+ overflow, and it looks like you used a 2010. Only difference is another inlet.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v296/FinlayZJ/Factory%20Five%20Roadster/DSC_0052.jpg

For oil pressure, can you just add another "t" fitting to the line to hook up the pressure sensor? Not the prettiest, but it would get the job done. Your passenger side front is going to get very crowded when you add the power steering and reservoir.

Also, I'd put some tape over the exhaust ports to keep dust out of the cylinders. The rest looks pretty good. Nice work.

Hammink Performance
04-19-2012, 09:32 AM
Looks good so far. I put the water temp sensor in the supply line to my heater so I can't comment on your location.
I will try my location and let you know what happens; I like the location because of clean look, but it has to function ofcourse
Also, the 2011+ Mustangs have a line from the top of the radiator back in to the overflow. I assume it's to keep an air pocket at the top of the radiator from forming. I used the 2011+ overflow, and it looks like you used a 2010. Only difference is another inlet.
What do you think, should I change my line from thermostat housing to radiator or leave it like I have it now with the 2010 tank?


For oil pressure, can you just add another "t" fitting to the line to hook up the pressure sensor? Not the prettiest, but it would get the job done.
Since I use braided lines I was thinking in the remote oil filter adapter but than I would need to T anyway if I switch to oil cooler

Your passenger side front is going to get very crowded when you add the power steering and reservoir.

Also, I'd put some tape over the exhaust ports to keep dust out of the cylinders. The rest looks pretty good. Nice work.

Thanks

ClemsonS197
04-19-2012, 08:34 PM
What do you think, should I change my line from thermostat housing to radiator or leave it like I have it now with the 2010 tank?

I believe FFinisher used a 2010 tank and used a T to combine the t-stat housing line with the radiator line and then in to the overflow.

95Blitz
04-20-2012, 01:22 AM
If you are going to race the car you might want to look at the rules for the fuel pressure regulator mounting. I know for drag racing the regulator has to mounted to the motor.

Hammink Performance
04-23-2012, 01:22 AM
Thanks for the tip, I will definately check it (we won't be drag racing though, just for circuit use)

Jester
04-23-2012, 09:30 PM
@Hammink

I have attached some photos of my Oil pressure sender and Temp sender installed - should be no interference. Also attached a few additional photos - Champ Pan install etc

Can anyone post pics of the power distribution solenoid (Q: does the large wire from the battery attach to the same pole as the large wire to the starter - this is how I have mine wired - see below)

Oil pressure sender & Water Temp sender (1)
8969

Oil pressure sender & Water Temp sender (2)
8970

Champ Pan installed (1)
8971

Champ Pan installed (2) view from side of frame rail - very nice pan
8972

Fuel regulator, Heater control valve & vaccum line in
8973

Power distribution solenoid
8974

ClemsonS197
04-23-2012, 09:52 PM
Solenoid? I didn't use one. I just used the OEM starter, Ron Francis harness, and FF ignition switch.

oldguy668
04-23-2012, 10:17 PM
You really do not need the solenoid if you are using the power control box that came with the control package. Also, run your vacuum line to one of the ports on the throttle body and plug the port on the back of the engine (per Ford Racing's tech).

Jester
04-23-2012, 10:27 PM
The Power distribution solenoid is used by FFR in the Coyote Install instructions - see page 76.

I was just following these instructions - seems reasonable to me - wiring is relatively simple as well according to these instructions. I have wired my engine according to these instructions which uses the power distribition solenoid

Thoughts??

Thx

Jester
04-23-2012, 11:33 PM
I have installed a stock 2011 water reservoir container (overflow tank) for the rad and stock hoses connected to the overflow tank. I noticed the upper left hose that connects to the upper left corner of the rad (drivers side) has a check valve that only allows one way flow.

Which way should this hose be inatalled for proper flow - I assume the check valve is intended to allow excess water to flow out of the top of the rad into the tank and stop air from getting sucked back into the rad. Has anyone confirmed this?

Thx

oldguy668
04-24-2012, 11:54 AM
The Power distribution solenoid is used by FFR in the Coyote Install instructions - see page 76.

I was just following these instructions - seems reasonable to me - wiring is relatively simple as well according to these instructions. I have wired my engine according to these instructions which uses the power distribition solenoid

Thoughts??

Thx

Normally, the solenoid (starter relay) is used for two things: One, it acts as a relay so you don't need a 20 amp rated ignition key, and, two, it acts as a convenient place to connect all the 12V feeds. In the Coyote Power Distribution box, function #1 is handled by an internal relay. Function #2 can be handled by simply connecting your fuse box feeder to the fat terminal on the starter. The FFR relay is redundant and just provides another possible trouble spot.

Jester
04-24-2012, 03:44 PM
Thx oldguy,

Good point on reilability. I will try with the current set-up before removing the solenoid however won't be for a while - just waiting on headers/cats from FFR before I can spark the fire.

Thx

oldguy668
04-24-2012, 04:17 PM
When you get some info on the check valve issue, please share it.

Jester
04-24-2012, 06:30 PM
I have attached cooling system part numbers as provided by FRPP. The hose I am refering to is part #8075B.

I have installed as per the diagram - I need to verify the other stock hoses off the overflow tank do not have check valves - and are installed properly
8982

Hammink Performance
04-25-2012, 01:30 AM
Maybe some dumb questions regarding the power distribution and the cooling system:

Can I use a battery cut of switch for as power distribution point? (I would do one side battery, other side the rest. I would keep the Ford Racing wire on the batt at all times though)

On the cooling system, is the overflow hose on the radiator engine dependant? Or should all roadsters have this problem since all radiators are in this spot?
With our street roadster we have no problems and we just use an inline filler neck with the stainless overflow kit as supplied by FFR.

Hammink Performance
05-01-2012, 05:09 AM
Big header issue :P

I received these 4.6 shorty's, now I still need to weld the flange, but I thought to test fit it first.
So I took out the studs from the block and held the header infront of the exhaust openings in the head.

NOW WHAT? :P it's sitting on my alternator!

Shake down is supposed to be 15 may which is 2 weeks from now :P

http://i924.photobucket.com/albums/ad88/hamminkperformance/Challenge%20car/DSCN2559.jpg
http://i924.photobucket.com/albums/ad88/hamminkperformance/Challenge%20car/DSCN2560.jpg

oldguy668
05-01-2012, 05:38 AM
The AST adapter flange is made to work with FFR 4-tube headers for the 2V engine, not for 4.6 shorties. You will have to wait for the new FFR shorties or go to the 4-tube header or fabricate your own.

ClemsonS197
05-01-2012, 06:24 AM
The 4.6L shorties I bought hit the alternator on the driver's side, and the front of the block on the passenger side. Mine were Ford Racing for a 4.6L. You're two options are what oldguy said.

Perhaps you can get an advanced copy of the Factory Five headers since you have a little more pull than we do. Dave posted a pic on Facebook a couple weeks ago putting a set on the Mk4 Coyote.

Hammink Performance
05-01-2012, 06:45 AM
Thank you for the quick reply's guys! I have bought these headers with flanges so I had assumed they would fit!

Have also asked FFR for a sample header, but they told us no. (this was a little while ago when they were still designing them)

The problem is that I need catalytic convertors.......

Hammink Performance
05-01-2012, 07:09 AM
I am pretty sure though no body but us will check the car so I can try running it without cats for the shakedown, and by the time we will race it I assume FFR's shorty's will be ready.

Who can help me get a pre-welded set of 4tube headers before next week? :P

oldguy668
05-01-2012, 10:57 AM
Where did you get the flanges?

Hammink Performance
05-02-2012, 01:28 AM
Forte's

Jester
05-03-2012, 12:31 AM
Oldguy - post #20

Re the check valve: I have confirmed that the stock hose coming off the DS of the Rad to the overflow tank (see diagram above for part number), has a check valve that only allows one way flow into the rad. Under pressure (when engine is running) this valve is closed to maintain the pressure within the cooling system so the coolant does not boil.

All other stock hoses off the overflow tank are free flowing.

Hope this helps. - You may want to speak with a FRPP tech for additional confirmation

Hammink Performance
05-03-2012, 01:55 AM
That would be the 8075B than, but again is this engine related or rad position related?
Otherwise all roadsters should need this on their rads, correct?

oldguy668
05-03-2012, 05:19 AM
My tank is for a non-GT application, so it does not have a spot for 8075B to connect. I used a tee connector from the radiator air bleed to the engine air bleed to the tank, connecting where 8075A does in your diagram. No issues yet but the weather was cool on the first two drives.

Hammink Performance
05-03-2012, 07:21 AM
IF!!!! we get the chance to drive May 15 I will let you know how it go's!
Otherwise I will also try what you did....

Hammink Performance
05-07-2012, 06:20 AM
pretty good news guys!! The headers came in this morning, and according to the tracking number I will also have the flanges today!!
Big thank you to everybody involved!!

Regarding the o2 sensor, do I weld the bung in on of the 4 pipes? or where they come together in the side pipe?
I figure the race car will be full throttle all the time so plenty of heat there I assume?

oldguy668
05-07-2012, 10:40 AM
The instructions with the control pack gives you locations for the O2 bungs if you choose to put them into the header tubes. Some of us have just put them in the collector with no problems.

Hammink Performance
05-08-2012, 06:47 AM
Thanks for the reply oldguy668.

I had read the manual but it sais to re-calibrate if you choose one cylinder from each bank, that's also why I'd choose the collector.
It doen't mention any real distance other than not to extend the harness for it, but this it seems is inevitable.

bansheekev
05-08-2012, 01:18 PM
Richard at North Racecars mentioned a while back that there are O2 sensor wiring extensions (pigtails) available from somewhere. Not sure where, but they do exist to purchase...

oldguy668
05-08-2012, 01:58 PM
Extending the harness is no problem. Just pay attention to the twisted pairs and follow the color code.

Hammink Performance
05-10-2012, 09:09 AM
Whats the torque spec for the nuts that bolt the header to the block?

oldguy668
05-10-2012, 11:58 AM
There's no room for a torque wrench so just make them tight. Check them after a few hundred miles.

Hammink Performance
05-11-2012, 09:02 AM
It's now three guys on the job :P

The last box of parts came in, and we realy realy realy realy want to make the shake down next tuesday!

It's gonna be a long weekend :-)

Alignment is on monday.

http://i924.photobucket.com/albums/ad88/hamminkperformance/Challenge%20car/DSCN2614.jpg
http://i924.photobucket.com/albums/ad88/hamminkperformance/Challenge%20car/DSCN2615.jpg

Hammink Performance
05-12-2012, 12:30 PM
ah it runs!!!

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Hammink-Performance/189969081056460

E-Ticket Ride
05-12-2012, 04:52 PM
Congratulations!
I will get there one day. Finishing up the IRS install today.

Jester
05-13-2012, 09:50 AM
Great Prgress and congrats on first start!

Can you fit the body over the elephant ears or did you riv-nuts so they can be removed and re-inatalled wune body is on later?

I will be at that point soon

Thx

Hammink Performance
05-14-2012, 01:20 AM
Thanks guys!!

@ Jester:
You can fit the body over the elephant ears. Just put some news papers over the rubbers so the body can not rip them appart.
The news paper will help slide the body over the rubbers, and you can pull out the news paper afterwords.

Just a side note, we have found out that a MK4 body does not install when the side exhaust are in place.
(that is on the challenge car because we can not move for/rearward with the rollcage)

Hammink Performance
05-17-2012, 11:39 AM
again, thank you everybody for helping in this thread! We have drivin the car and learned a lot.
I will try to post our findings and maybe some more questions before the weekend.

Check out this short video!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSWhPYb0-po&list=UUvDnTyQUV6CwRVlx4-vIlbA&index=1&feature=plcp

ClemsonS197
05-17-2012, 05:21 PM
Looks and sounds great.

Hammink Performance
05-18-2012, 08:38 AM
@ clemsonS197; Thank you!

I'd like to share some points discussed in this thread;
The water temp sensor looks to be working fine in the location we have choosen in the head, the readings were fine and consistant, but to be 110% sure I will take it out soon.

The billet aluminum hose plugs Mike Forte was talking about do actually work really nice. Ofcourse they are more expensive than rubber caps, but they seem worth the risk to me!
9790

We mounted the oil pressure sender below the oil filter in it's adapter bracket

We skipped the power steering, but we might install it after all when we start driving it harder

2010 coolant tank seems to work nice as well, checked the radiator for air multiple times but still nothing.

The "red flag" on the driver side (kill switch) is used as our power distribution block.

O2 sensors in the collector work nice (for us) do pick your location with the body on since it go's around and under the square chassis tubes.

We did the o2 wire extentions our selves and did not experience any problems.


Than the only problems we experienced while driving were:

Major bumpsteer on hills and under heavy braking, probably deu to poor alignment.
Front wheels rubbing the front of the wheelwell on the front of the car, under breaking and turn in, this is ride hight/alignment and fat tires
The driver rear wheel hit the cage behind the seat, also thinking ride hight and alignment.

now the next one is an important one for you Coyote guys!!

While accelarating in a dip of the track (comming from a slight hill) we could all hear a hard rattle or cluncking if you will, in the rear of the car.
Back in the shop I checked all IRS arms and other things that are able to move in the rear.
Turns out it was the driveshaft hitting the 4" round tube which is connecting the main 4" chassis tubes together.

We were using the transmission bracket as shown in the Coyote manual by FFR, I now made a 5mm spacer for under the transmission mount, which raises the driveshaft more than 5mm away from the tube. (also used 5mm longer bolts to make up for the spacer)

Other than that, no leaks, no fails, no nothing. :-)

If anybody wants detailed pictures of anything, don't hessitate to ask.

Jester
05-18-2012, 12:23 PM
Great news

How did you find the foot box for space - do you plan to modify either of the foot boxes?

Did you pressure up the oil pump / oiling system before starting for the first time or did you just start the motor straight out of the box (after changing the pan)?

Thx

Hammink Performance
05-19-2012, 05:59 AM
passenger footbox is plenty of room in my opinion, but we did modify the drivers footbox near the gaspedal. (I'll post some pics on monday)

I did start the engine right out of the box after I had refilled the oil. However during installation etc. I spun it a few times.

The motor fired right up without any stuttering or anything, it was like a factory car hahaha.
There was a hydrolic lifter sound for like 10 seconds, but nothing else.

Hammink Performance
05-22-2012, 01:22 AM
Jester,

We moved the remaining part of the 4.6L footbox side wall back out, instead of making a larger area for the gas pedal.
It starts approx in line with the cyl head.

This helps a lot because your leg does not have to fold arround the bend in the aluminum to get to the pedal.

(However we only use this car with driving shoes)

Don't mind the pictures being a little messy, we are still working on the car.

http://i924.photobucket.com/albums/ad88/hamminkperformance/Challenge%20car/DSCN2627.jpg
http://i924.photobucket.com/albums/ad88/hamminkperformance/Challenge%20car/DSCN2628.jpg

Jester
05-22-2012, 08:45 AM
Nice!

Looks like plenty of room for normal shoes.

Thx

Hammink Performance
05-23-2012, 01:19 AM
On the next car we will optimise this setup, and I have no problem sending you the drawing at that time

Hammink Performance
07-02-2012, 08:56 AM
Hi Guys,

To fire up this thread again...

Yesterday we were driving the car on the Zandvoort racing track again (will post some vids and pics on this forum soon)
Fun thing was that when the driver felt comfortable with the car, he was keeping up with a Porsche GT3 cup car!!

Now since we discussed the cooling system here I want to see what you guys experienced, because you have added that hose to the top of the radiator.
Here's what I found;
It seemed that the cooling system was not functioning right. While sitting in the pits the temp went up to a little over 200F so if you feel the top hose of the radiator it is really warm, but when you feel the lower one it is just a little bit heated as if there is no flow thru this hose.
Have you got any idea for this matter?

We have a 2010 Mustang tank, that has the little hose on top hooked up to the small port on top of the engine, and the big hose connection to one of the heater pipes. Maybe bad gauge sender location? (top front of passenger side cyl head)

Jester
07-02-2012, 05:03 PM
Where did you place the water temp sensor?

I have located mine in the block water jacket plug on the DS near the engine mount as per the revised FFR Coyote install instructions

Hammink Performance
07-03-2012, 01:41 AM
There is a picture on the first page of this thread, I have it mounted in the passenger cyl head.

Did you hook your rad up to the expansion tank?

Hammink Performance
07-03-2012, 02:11 AM
Another interesting thing to know would be;

Does this engine need the circulation from the heater system?
(maybe it is better to put a piece of hose in between the 2 heater pipes, instead of capping them both of)

Jester
07-03-2012, 06:52 PM
With any luck I will have mine started next week

I have my temp sensor mounted in the jacket on the DS near the engine mount.

I have the stock coyote cooling tank with all proper stock cooling lines etc in proper locations. As well I have installed the heater with stock cooling lines (slight mod required), so there should be no issues.

Once I have confirmed start I will provide an update.

I can post pics if needed

As well I have modified the DS and PS foot boxes to maximize space as per new FFR headers (very nice). Much improoved and should provide significant comfort.

Jester
07-03-2012, 09:03 PM
Previously I spoke to the FRPP rep at Ford Racing and they were the ones who told me the proper location for the temp sensor. Since that time FFR has updated the install instructions with this same location.

Connecting the heater lines will provide continuous circulation but not sure if this will solve the issue however when installing a FFR heater, there is no bypass valve to provide continuous circulation (I may need to modify accordingly if I have this same issue)

Good luck - keep us posted as others may have the same issue

Hammink Performance
07-04-2012, 01:35 AM
Jester,

Thank you for the reply's, pics would definately help, or at the least give new idea's. (as you say, other people might experience problems as well)

In the build wiki on this forum they use the tank with one small hose barb on top, do you have the one with 2 on top?
Here's my setup;
http://i924.photobucket.com/albums/ad88/hamminkperformance/Challenge%20car/DSCN2734.jpg
http://i924.photobucket.com/albums/ad88/hamminkperformance/Challenge%20car/DSCN2735.jpg

ClemsonS197
07-04-2012, 07:33 AM
In the last 20 seconds, you can see how I hooked up the reservoir. The 2011+ tanks have two connection points on top. One goes to the block, like you have, and the second goes to the drivers side top of the radiator. I haven't driven it yet, but I have taken it up to temp to make sure the t-stat opened and the fan started. The line out of the top of the radiator flows fluid through it darn near constantly. You can see the fluid moving out of it in to the reservoir when you take the cap off. I'm not certain on the need for flow, but the heater connections do want to move fluid. That might help. Doubt it has an impact, but Ford wants the MAF sensor between 6 and 24" from throttle body. I thought of mounting my intake like you have, but it was further than 24". Might make your motor run lean.

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v296/FinlayZJ/Factory%20Five%20Roadster/?action=view&current=photobucket-5067-1339889739924.mp4


Edit: Looks like you car is painted. New pics????

Hammink Performance
07-04-2012, 08:22 AM
Hi Clemson,

That's a cool vid, the open headers sound well :-)
Does the small hose you have comming from the radiator have a little valve in it? Earlier in this thread it was mentioned that the stock version used a valve.

I have my MAF approx 22" fron the TB (measured from the outside of the intake tubes)

Yes the car has been painted, mad dog will post some pics and vids soon, but in the mean time.
http://www.hamminkperformance.nl/forum/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=148

Jester
07-04-2012, 12:25 PM
From the vid posted by Clemson, it looks like I have a similar set-up for both the intake / vacum lines and overflow tank/rad lines etc. I have the stock heater lines connected directly to the FFR heater with the control valve on the DS heater line near the fire wall. My set-up mirrors the stock Coyote cooling system with all of the stock lines as per the FRPP reference diagram (includes heater lines etc). Note: I cut the vaccum line inlet off the stock FRPP intake and custom fit the male connection to a similar location on the alimunim intake (I think this is what Clemson has done but I can not see clearly in the video) - used epoxy and it fits perfict and looks great (only needed some trimming)

I will post pics when I get back home (currently traveling) but you can see clearly in the video posted by Clemson.

Hammink Performance
07-05-2012, 01:17 AM
Where can I buy this 90degree valve to screw in the bleeder location at the top of the rad?

oldguy668
07-05-2012, 06:01 AM
Take a look at this cooling system schematic:

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Hose #2 is not a heater hose as you stated. It goes to the factory recovery tank. Hoses numbered 3 and 4 both go to the recovery tank, but hose number 3 has a check valve in it. If you use a tank with only one upper inlet, you can tee 3 and 4 together, but the check valve has to be between the tee and the tank. Hoses 6 and 7 are the factory heater connections and if no heater is used they should be tee;d together behind the engine. It's a great place to install your gauge sender because there is water flow there all the time. If you check my blog post, the part numbers for all the hoses are there. You will also find some photos and part numbers for using a one-piece NAPA hose to replace hose #15.

Hammink Performance
07-05-2012, 09:10 AM
Hi oldguy,

Thank you for the reply.
Maybe I mentioned it wrong, I ment that I had hose 2 hooked up to the same pipe the left heater hose go's too (the lower horizontal connection)
(probably bad english on my side)

Now I have everything like in the drawing, I just need to T 3 and 4 together.
My problem however is that we do not have as many autostores as you guys.

Would you have a part number or info where I can buy this check valve to screw into the radiator?

ClemsonS197
07-05-2012, 10:51 AM
The 90* degree fitting that goes in the radiator is standard pipe threads. I don't recall what they are off the top of my head, but my local hardware store had it in the plumbing section. If you call AFCO or Factory Five, I'm sure they know the thread size/pitch.

oldguy668
07-05-2012, 01:24 PM
Bad news on the check valve, I'm afraid. It is actually made as part of the hose, and it costs about US$45. The Part Number is BR3Z-8075-B. The fitting you are looking for looks like this one. I'm not sure of the pipe thread size (1/4 or 3/8) but the barb end is 1/4" (5/16 would work too).

10545

Hammink Performance
07-06-2012, 06:46 AM
I found this;
http://www.produktinfo.conrad.com/datenblaetter/225000-249999/235078-da-01-en-RUECKSCHLAGVENTIL_GRAU.pdf
Its for fuel but since it's all metal parts inside, I think it can handle hot coolant.

oldguy668
07-06-2012, 11:37 AM
That will work, but I think a cheap plastic aquarium check valve will work just as well.

Jester
07-23-2012, 10:53 AM
Previously I was asked to post some photo's of my header to side pipe set up (modified FFR J pipes).

I believe FFR sent me a set of 5.0 straight pipes (I think). These took quite a bit of modification for proper fitment – these mods were not cheap. I needed to align and mark where the compound angled cuts were needed, gave to the welders to cut and tack, trial fit, adjust, remark and repeat until correct fitment / alignment. There are 2 compound cuts needed on each pipe (one at the header flange, one at the side pipe flange) and one straight cut needed to adjust the length.

I have attached a photo of the end result – look great and sound fantastic.

I understand FFR are manufacturing cat’s – I plan get a set once available for complete immisions compliance however I can finish the car with the modified straight pipes.

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Jester
07-23-2012, 12:21 PM
Foot Box Mods for Coyote setup

See attached

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Slider
05-08-2013, 11:44 AM
Mike, can you provide information (pictures) on which hose connections you plugged on the Coyote and what the part numbers are for the plugs you used? Are they just a clamp on product, or how do you attach them? (I've had guys suggest threading the unused ports, but I'm a bit confused. Thanks)


Hi,
I added 2 heater billet aluminum hose plugs to cover the unused water hose connections. These are superior to the rubber hose plugs that are prone to "popping" which then pukes all the coolant. This happens on the hottest days or while racing..

ClemsonS197
05-09-2013, 06:54 AM
The billet aluminum hose plugs Mike Forte was talking about do actually work really nice. Ofcourse they are more expensive than rubber caps, but they seem worth the risk to me!
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The Ford Racing Tech I spoke with this week said you need to bridge the heater input/output even if you don't use a heater for proper head cooling flow. If you block the heater, the rearward drivers side cylinder will be starved for coolant or so I was told.

I believe the DOHC 4.6L had cooling issues with the rearward cylinders as well.

oldguy668
05-09-2013, 07:39 AM
I knew about the head overheat problem last year when I plumbed my engine. I used stock heater hoses and tee'd them together behind the heads. I used the branch on the T for the water temp sender location.

Hammink Performance
05-21-2013, 04:54 AM
we just ran a hose from one pipe to the other since we do not use a heater, no problems, not even on the track when it gets a full on beating