Which unused parts have the most value?

[NonProfit]

OK, I've talked myself into a WRX, ideally a 2006 sedan. I understand nothing is final yet, but it is clear there will be a lot of parts left on the donor when I'm done with it.

Recouping some cash is always great but my real concern is I'd much rather an enthusiast gets a part, any part, than for it to go for scrap. So, what parts should I be certain to pass along?

[riptide motorsport]

Airbags pull 4-5 hundred a pair.

[Steve91T]

Airbags pull 4-5 hundred a pair.


No way. There's actually not much of a market at all for them because of insurance companies. You'd be lucky to get $100 for the pair.

[Etos]

Chasis
Lights
Bumpers, fenders
Doors/Windows/Door cards
Seats
Rear Diff/Driveshaft/rear CVs
Rear Subframe
Interior bits(pillar covers, seatbelts, glovebox etc)
Steering wheel/Airbag

That's off the top of my head. There's probably more smaller things here and there.

Only thing is outside of the lights and chasis/bumpers/fenders most of those things won't sell too well. Subaru people are pretty cheap when it comes to buying OEM parts. One upside is new OEM parts are stupid expensive so eventually you should be able to find buyers.

[Kalstar]

Bringing this back up, I think this is a great thread, I was able to part the Vette out and make 10k over the donor purchase price. If potential 818 buyers knew what to look for....... ie most common color to sell the pannels easier or if certain years were the parts are interchangeable or harder to find, more desirable interior color/style. Ballpark values would be real helpful too.

[metalmaker12]

Bringing this back up, I think this is a great thread, I was able to part the Vette out and make 10k over the donor purchase price. If potential 818 buyers knew what to look for....... ie most common color to sell the pannels easier or if certain years were the parts are interchangeable or harder to find, more desirable interior color/style. Ballpark values would be real helpful too.

I grabbed a 02 wrx with no motor for 2k. The outside components have good amounts of rust, but with some work (blasting and rebuilding) I can use the knuckles, rack, column, harness, sti 5x100 wheels, cluster, seats, tranny, brakes ,even rotors, master and booster, clutch master, shifter bracket, pedal set. I will need new wheel bearings and hubs, ball joints, seals etc, Inner/outer tie rods and boots, And some other stuff I am sure. But he'll this is the hard work, the kit will be fun. I have a thread going on some stuff I am rebuilding, I just have to load pics and get a couple days to organize it
I have 15k waiting to rock for kit and an wrx or sti engine

I figured 20k all together, but worth twice that when done, and keep 0-60 under 3.5

just sold the wrx truck with an sti wing for 350
About to sell the doors for 200 a piece
For sale still
Rear seats 125
Dash 150
Airbag pass 125
Very new black background head lights 150
Blackout tails 150
Fender for 75
Hood for 100
Rear end for 150

[Xusia]

Won't you need the gauges? Or is the dash worth $150 without them?

[metalmaker12]

Bringing this back up, I think this is a great thread, I was able to part the Vette out and make 10k over the donor purchase price. If potential 818 buyers knew what to look for....... ie most common color to sell the pannels easier or if certain years were the parts are interchangeable or harder to find, more desirable interior color/style. Ballpark values would be real helpful too.

I grabbed a 02 wrx with no motor for 2k. The outside components have good amounts of rust, but with some work (blasting and rebuilding) I can use the knuckles, rack, column, harness, sti 5x100 wheels, cluster, seats, tranny, brakes ,even rotors, master and booster, clutch master, shifter bracket, pedal set. I will need new wheel bearings and hubs, ball joints, seals etc, Inner/outer tie rods and boots, And some other stuff I am sure. But he'll this is the hard work, the kit will be fun. I have a thread going on some stuff I am rebuilding, I just have to load pics and get a couple days to organize it
I have 15k waiting to rock for kit and an wrx or sti engine

I figured 20k all together, but worth twice that when done, and keep 0-60 under 3.5

just sold the wrx truck with an sti wing for 350
About to sell the doors for 200 a piece
For sale still
Rear seats 125
Dash 150
Airbag pass 125
Very new black background head lights 150
Blackout tails 150
Fender for 75
Hood for 100
Rear end for 150

[metalmaker12]

150 without

[JRL]

I grabbed a 02 wrx with no motor for 2k. The outside components have good amounts of rust, but with some work (blasting and rebuilding) I can use the knuckles, rack, column, harness, sti 5x100 wheels, cluster, seats, tranny, brakes ,even rotors, master and booster, clutch master, shifter bracket, pedal set. I will need new wheel bearings and hubs, ball joints, seals etc, Inner/outer tie rods and boots, And some other stuff I am sure. But he'll this is the hard work, the kit will be fun. I have a thread going on some stuff I am rebuilding, I just have to load pics and get a couple days to organize it
I have 15k waiting to rock for kit and an wrx or sti engine

I figured 20k all together, but worth twice that when done, and keep 0-60 under 3.5
just sold the wrx truck with an sti wing for 350
About to sell the doors for 200 a piece
For sale still
Rear seats 125
Dash 150
Airbag pass 125
Very new black background head lights 150
Blackout tails 150
Fender for 75
Hood for 100
Rear end for 150

Do you mean your 818 will be worth twice your cost ($20K)? If that is your measuring stick for building the car I'm afraid you are badly mistaken. I can't imagine anyone paying $40K for a complete 818 when there are scores of better options in the price range.

[PhyrraM]

I'd guess about 1/2-2/3 the value of a equivalently built Roadster. Hard to judge, they really do target a different audience. The only 'crossovers' are likely to be FFR fans. (As opposed to 'snake car' fans, who also build roadsters but wouldn't look twice at an 818)

[Xusia]

I've always thought that while the average person admires the beauty of a home built car, they are trepidatious at the prospect of buying one, effectively reducing the potential market and therefore the value of the vehicle. Did the builder do a good job? Did they use good materials? What condition are all the donor parts in? How will I fix it if/when it breaks? Etc. These are all valid concerns, and dealing with them is probably not for the average person...

[PhyrraM]

I've always thought that while the average person admires the beauty of a home built car, they are trepidatious at the prospect of buying one, effectively reducing the potential market and therefore the value of the vehicle. Did the builder do a good job? Did they use good materials? What condition are all the donor parts in? How will I fix it if/when it breaks? Etc. These are all valid concerns, and dealing with them is probably not for the average person...

I agree. Which is exactly why replicas hold a higher value for a seemingly similar car. I may want my 'dream car' (or at least what looks like it) and be unable to afford (or build) one. So I might be in the market for a well constructed replica. I don't see the same situation (and hence - market) for a non-replica like the 818. But I could be wrong...A market may develop for an "Arial Atom - with a full body".

[JRL]

I've always thought that while the average person admires the beauty of a home built car, they are trepidatious at the prospect of buying one, effectively reducing the potential market and therefore the value of the vehicle. Did the builder do a good job? Did they use good materials? What condition are all the donor parts in? How will I fix it if/when it breaks? Etc. These are all valid concerns, and dealing with them is probably not for the average person...

One needs to look no further than the GTM. Countless non-replica cars like the GTM for sale (for a long, long, long time) at prices far, far less than the cost to build and still no buyers.

The 818 will be a fun car to build and possibly drive but I question anyone that thinks they will make money building one.

[wallace18]

I have been working on cars for over 35 years. I have built several from scratch. It is seldom you ever get out what you put in money wise. Forget about the time. I think you build the 818 for the fun of it, not for profit.

[metalmaker12]

Do you mean your 818 will be worth twice your cost ($20K)? If that is your measuring stick for building the car I'm afraid you are badly mistaken. I can't imagine anyone paying $40K for a complete 818 when there are scores of better options in the price range.

You all are so quick to point the finger, look it is worth what someone will pay, and if done right could sell for 30k or more, but I am not building it to sell, I am going to enjoy it, drive it almost all the time, and feel good about how I built it. And really what are better options, an Elise, mustang, sti, etc, I liked to know which one in performance will even come close. 300-400whp in 818kg, find that car for me.
I think this car is going to be a big success and really open some eyes with it's performance.

[NonProfit]

I have been working on cars for over 35 years. I have built several from scratch. It is seldom you ever get out what you put in money wise. Forget about the time. I think you build the 818 for the fun of it, not for profit.
This is clearly the case when restoring vehicles.

[JRL]

It's also clearly the case when building a budget donor based kit car.

Metalmaker I wasn't trying to rain on your parade - sorry if it came across that way - just the reality of the market. Look at the number of $100K GTM's that sell for 1/2 the investment and they are not as limited as the Phase I 818 is likely to be.

[Kalstar]

It's also clearly the case when building a budget donor based kit car.

Metalmaker I wasn't trying to rain on your parade - sorry if it came across that way - just the reality of the market. Look at the number of $100K GTM's that sell for 1/2 the investment and they are not as limited as the Phase I 818 is likely to be.


100k?? Not all of them, some are a third of that (to build) that is.

[Smitty911]

100k?? Not all of them, some are a third of that (to build) that is.

With the Kit cost of 20,000.00 plus Corvette, ++++++ I haven't read anyone putting one together (Including Paint) for under 35,000.00 (1/3rd). Most have over $50,000 invested and are not on the road.

Could be a quick poll in the GTM Forum to confirm.

Smitty

Build what you like with expectations of lossing it all. That way if you do sell at some point in the future you're still making out.

[Steve91T]

Have any of you guys read the initial question? He's asking what parts can help recoup the cost, as in what parts can be sold to help offset the cost. This thread has gone way off topic. The OP never said anything about selling enough parts to actually make money on the project. The 818, like any kit car or kit plane, is a loss, like buying a new car.

It's a great question. I'm building a race car from a street car. I have a ton of left over parts that I know I could sell, if someone wanted them. The problem with selling used parts is finding a buyer. Is it worth your time to keep posting to craigslist every few days for a year or more for $10? Is it also worth it to store the parts for that time? For me, it's not. I file a ton of parts that I could make $20 on, but my time and my storage is worth more than that.


Personally, I realistically expect to make a whole lot on unused parts.

[Kalstar]

Have any of you guys read the initial question? He's asking what parts can help recoup the cost, as in what parts can be sold to help offset the cost. This thread has gone way off topic. The OP never said anything about selling enough parts to actually make money on the project. The 818, like any kit car or kit plane, is a loss, like buying a new car.

It's a great question. I'm building a race car from a street car. I have a ton of left over parts that I know I could sell, if someone wanted them. The problem with selling used parts is finding a buyer. Is it worth your time to keep posting to craigslist every few days for a year or more for $10? Is it also worth it to store the parts for that time? For me, it's not. I file a ton of parts that I could make $20 on, but my time and my storage is worth more than that.


Personally, I realistically expect to make a whole lot on unused parts.

Yes, thx Steve91t this is about unused parts and values, not a profit and loss statement. Smitty911 if you want to PM with me I'll fill you in on the cost to build my GTM, you'll be surprised.

Now, which parts are worth the most and what years are better?

[Smitty911]

Yes, thx Steve91t this is about unused parts and values, not a profit and loss statement. Smitty911 if you want to PM with me I'll fill you in on the cost to build my GTM, you'll be surprised.

Now, which parts are worth the most and what years are better?

From all the photos I've seen of WRX, if you have a Complete Front End, it should NET the most. Seems people driving them can't seem to stop in time. Along with air bags, etc.

Just my thoughts.

Smitty

Kalstar,

I found your GTM build, Nice job, but even you admit that you've done alot of things that the Average Builder isn't doing. No offense, but most of the GTM builds are north of $50,000 not South of $40,000. Highjack over. :)

[305mouse]

On the NASIOC forums they have a seperate section for complete part outs. Take some photos, be detailed about what's left and people will ask for parts. The ***** of it all will be the packaging and shipping if doing it that way. Craigslist is nice for not having to do all that extra work.

[metalmaker12]

On the NASIOC forums they have a seperate section for complete part outs. Take some photos, be detailed about what's left and people will ask for parts. The ***** of it all will be the packaging and shipping if doing it that way. Craigslist is nice for not having to do all that extra work.

No harm on the 818 worth topic, just saying if you have the right parts,( sti engine, wilwood brakes, nice wheels, nices race seats, great setup and very good detail, you may get good money for one. Problem with the GTM is that it is in another price bracket. People will spend 20-30k on a car that can perform like a 100k plus car. The general public don't wanna spend more than that. So if the 818 can put a beating on a GTM, which might be possible (sorry GTM lovers, truths in numbers) than all the attention will be on the 818 at much lower cost across the board.
I see guys putting 500-600whp in this car, and with the right suspension and tires getting grip, match that with a quick rack,,,say 11:1 ratio,,, and you got a track star/street monster that might be hard to beat with anything out there.

Just sold bugeye headlights for 160
And maybe the blacked out tails for 150
Got someone to come look at the rear end today
I would say the trunk with an sti wing and the doors are the most valuable parts to sell

[Kalstar]

So if the 818 can put a beating on a GTM, which might be possible (sorry GTM lovers, truths in numbers) than all the attention will be on the 818 at much lower cost across the board.
I see guys putting 500-600whp in this car, and with the right suspension and tires getting grip, match that with a quick rack,,,say 11:1 ratio,,,

Sounds like the Camaro/ Corvette argument. With enough time, money and drive... a Pinto can run an 8 sec 1/4 mile.

Hee hee, flame suit on!!

[JRL]

I see guys putting 500-600whp in this car, and with the right suspension and tires getting grip, match that with a quick rack,,,say 11:1 ratio,,, and you got a track star/street monster that might be hard to beat with anything out there.

That sounds doable however you will be well north of your initial price point of $20K. How fast do you want ot go - how much money do you have :D

[Smitty911]

Sounds like the Camaro/ Corvette argument. With enough time, money and drive... a Pinto can run an 8 sec 1/4 mile.

Hee hee, flame suit on!!

Don't laugh at the Pinto's. 1985 Tustin Ca. I'm in a '84 RX-7 and a Light Blue Pinto Wagon rolls up next to me. It has a huge snorkel intake over the front hood and has some rake to. I look over at the driver with a confused look and he just shrugged. Light changes, I take off and already in front of me is the Pinto. Rear view was Tire-Pumpkin-Tire, that car was in Hot Rod magazine within the next coupled months. :eek:

Interiors don't seem to be worth much, just looking around. Body and mechanicals seem to be the most needed.

Smitty

[Kalstar]

Don't laugh at the Pinto's. 1985 Tustin Ca. I'm in a '84 RX-7 and a Light Blue Pinto Wagon rolls up next to me. It has a huge snokle intake over the front hood and has some rack to. I look over at the driver with a confused look and he just shugges. Light changes, I take off and already in front of me is the Pinto. Rear view was Tire-Pumpkin-Tire, that car was in Hot Rod magizine within the next coupld months. :eek:

Interiors don't seem to be worth much, just looking around. Body and mechanicals seem to be the most needed.

Smitty

I have had my *** passed to me more than once with a sneaky dude in a sleeper. Just proves there is always someone bigger and bad'er out there, even if they wear a suit made of a Pinto.

Come to think of it the Pinto is to the Mustang what the Camaro is the Corvette.

I am going electric on the 818, 600fp from 0 rpm should make for a sub 2second 0-60

[305mouse]

I think your analogy needs work. I would say Pinto is to Mustang as Chevette is to Camaro.

[riptide motorsport]

My pinto will do it. Well 10 seconds actually!!! And by the way...airbags from mustangs fetch 4-5 hundred a pair......shouldn't see why the same wouldn't be true for a subie....Steven

[carbon fiber]

pintos rule!

[PhyrraM]

Don't forget, from 1975-1977 the Mustang WAS a Pinto based car.

As far as the Chevette is concerned, it was really an Opel Kadette - a very highly regarded Euro GM for the time. Too bad we got it here in North America at the end of it's natural european run.