Gas n performance closed?

[smoocheese]

Hi there

Just wanted to ask if anybody has been able to reach them lately?i ordered some headers on jan 9 and has had 0 contact, 0 confirmation from them regarding the order


Emails, calls, even instagram all went unanswered

[gbranham]

They're the new Fini**line of the forum, apparently. Sad.

Greg

[michael everson]

I had 2 different customers order headers recently. Not sure why you're having problems.
Mike

[smoocheese]

I had 2 different customers order headers recently. Not sure why you're having problems.
Mike

called them 4 times and finally got through once

he said the order is finished and will check on the shipping status and email me

crickets from then, will give them until end of week before calling again

[orangemonkey65]

In a similar situation - ordered, haven't received meaningful updates and I've been bugging them a lot.

[gbranham]

I had 2 different customers order headers recently. Not sure why you're having problems.
Mike

Seems the 'ordering' part is the easy part. Turns out, the manufacturing, communicating and shipping part is where they fail.

Greg

[TTimmy]

I had to chase them down for my order but otherwise I have had positive experiences with Gas-n. I'm not making excuses but will share my perspective. I think they are a bit of an old-school operation. My suggestion is that if you don't get a quick response, just try calling again - It's a small operation.

Keep in mind that many of our communication expectations have been reset in a world with online ordering and instant updates at every stage as each order progresses from being ordered, picked, packed, label printed, shipped, etc. My goodness, we now know when the driver 10 stops away.

I will tell you this, when i called them for advice Georgie personally answered the phone. My issue related to the FFR collector connecting to the Gas-n pipes on my coupe - it was too short. I didn't want to add in a bunch of extensions to make it work. Not Georgie's problem, but he had me send the FFR collector to him and he lengthened it by 3/4 inch at no charge to me. You will not get this type of customer service elsewhere.

All that said, I hope they don't become another F*****Line!

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[Mike.Bray]

To pay a fair amount of money 100% upfront and then be ghosted is not pleasant. And not for me.

[OB6]

I had to chase them down for my order but otherwise I have had positive experiences with Gas-n. I'm not making excuses but will share my perspective. I think they are a bit of an old-school operation. My suggestion is that if you don't get a quick response, just try calling again - It's a small operation.

Keep in mind that many of our communication expectations have been reset in a world with online ordering and instant updates at every stage as each order progresses from being ordered, picked, packed, label printed, shipped, etc. My goodness, we now know when the driver 10 stops away.

I will tell you this, when i called them for advice Georgie personally answered the phone. My issue related to the FFR collector connecting to the Gas-n pipes on my coupe - it was too short. I didn't want to add in a bunch of extensions to make it work. Not Georgie's problem, but he had me send the FFR collector to him and he lengthened it by 3/4 inch at no charge to me. You will not get this type of customer service elsewhere.

All that said, I hope they don't become another F*****Line!



I think this is pretty consistent with the experience others have had when Georgie was running the show. That's not the case now, and things have clearly changed unfortunately.

[TTimmy]

I think this is pretty consistent with the experience others have had when Georgie was running the show. That's not the case now, and things have clearly changed unfortunately.

I did not know that Georgie was out of the picture. I hope they get turned around.

[gbranham]

C'mon, FFR. Time to step up to the plate and recognize an opportunity! Offer an upgraded sidepipe, beyond just the finishes available today. I'm sure most peeps would gladly pay that when they place their order. It's not like FFR hasn't done this with countless other offerings from the cottage industry of vendors that support this community. I understand the costs of materials, manufacturing and warehousing sidepipes is different than, say, battery boxes and drop trunks, but it's an opportunity nonetheless. Or just develop a relationship with Gas'N as a wholesaler exclusively, and offer the parts as add-ons to a kit order, just like Wilwood brakes, Ford IRS differentials, etc.

Greg

[Sharris2]

They did, check out there latest video about there improved pipes.

[Mike.Bray]

C'mon, FFR. Time to step up to the plate and recognize an opportunity! Offer an upgraded sidepipe, beyond just the finishes available today. I'm sure most peeps would gladly pay that when they place their order. It's not like FFR hasn't done this with countless other offerings from the cottage industry of vendors that support this community. I understand the costs of materials, manufacturing and warehousing sidepipes is different than, say, battery boxes and drop trunks, but it's an opportunity nonetheless. Or just develop a relationship with Gas'N as a wholesaler exclusively, and offer the parts as add-ons to a kit order, just like Wilwood brakes, Ford IRS differentials, etc.

Greg

Being on the forum for a few months before my kit was delivered (don't build a car during Covid) I read lots of comments about the poor quality of the FFR headers/sidepipes and how wonderful the Gas-N pipes were. So when my kit arrived I was very interested in the polished stainless pipes I ordered with the kit and inspected them closely. I believe I received the "new design" from FFR as they had ball collectors on them.

I will say I was very impressed with the fit, finish, and overall with them. The headers had nice thick flanges and bolted right up, I've said this before I can throw them from across the room and they'll go right on. The welds looked very nice and the polish finish was exceptional. I'm running a 393W and found the sound to be nice and throaty just like a Cobra should sound. My wife has never said a word about the sound being too loud or annoying in any way.

I didn't like the polished stainless as it discolored, not the fault of FFR, so I had everything ceramic coated. If FFR offered this as an option I would have ordered it. The other option I wish they offered for SBF engines is the 3" spacing for the header bolts.

IMO, I see no reason not to use the FFR pipes unless you want to partially kill the Cobra experience by quieting things down. But that's maybe not fair as I'm half deaf (or completely deaf according to my wife).

I like the FFR pipes enough I'm in the process of converting a spare set I have into sidepipes for my 68 Camaro.

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[gbranham]

I don't mind the SOUND of the FFR pipes, as I am also, ahem, hearing-impaired. And I don't mind the look of them. But what I DO mind are the baffles inside of them that seem to come loose easily. My MkIII did it after 1000 miles, and my driver's side pipe is now doing it on my MkIV after 850 miles. I do know quite a few folks like a quieter pipe, hence Gas'N, so there is a market for FFR, both in noise attenuation and, well, better quality inside their pipes. If they hitched their wagon to Gas'N as a supplier, injected some capital into Gas'N to sort out their operations, maybe there's a synergy there that benefits us, FFR and Gas'N. Dunno. I'm no business man; I'm an IT nerd. :)

Greg

[rich grsc]

Mike, what did you say, can you speak up and not mumble. :rolleyes:

Greg, 3 of by buddies in our club had Gas-n pipes, all of them had problems. One had to use 3 shims on one side to fit, the others was SO bad they sent them back and demanded they be remade. I wonder if it would be cheaper to just have them made by a local hotrod shop???

[Jeff Kleiner]

My opinion, the last thing FFR needs (or wants) is another part number or variable to add to the kit order. Partnering with a third party like Gas'N just opens up another weak link in the supply line chain and you know who catches the heat when that chain breaks... Trust me, every single backorder and supply problem FFR has is not on pieces or parts that originate within those 4 walls in Wareham. Have you seen or heard the Mk5 pipes? Longer, quieter mufflers and well crafted pipes. Honestly, not much of a step up to Gas'N as far as sound or craftsmanship and most importantly---they actually fit!

Jeff

[gbranham]

Well, that's good to know that the MkV pipes are a step up!

Greg

[danmas]

I have both FFR and gas’n. Most folks know I’m a fan of Georgie but not of the new ownership. For now, I’m leaving my gas’n pipes on. The car is quite fun but not quiet fun. Drove it some today. So much damn fun.

[TrackDay17]

My opinion, the last thing FFR needs (or wants) is another part number or variable to add to the kit order. Partnering with a third party like Gas'N just opens up another weak link in the supply line chain and you know who catches the heat when that chain breaks... Trust me, every single backorder and supply problem FFR has is not on pieces or parts that originate within those 4 walls in Wareham. Have you seen or heard the Mk5 pipes? Longer, quieter mufflers and well crafted pipes. Honestly, not much of a step up to Gas'N as far as sound or craftsmanship and most importantly---they actually fit!

Jeff

Jeff, I ordered the standard pipes with my MK5 because I wanted to ceramic coat them, are they the same construction as the new stainless steel side pipes ?

[Wizbangdoodle]

My opinion, the last thing FFR needs (or wants) is another part number or variable to add to the kit order. Partnering with a third party like Gas'N just opens up another weak link in the supply line chain and you know who catches the heat when that chain breaks... Trust me, every single backorder and supply problem FFR has is not on pieces or parts that originate within those 4 walls in Wareham. Have you seen or heard the Mk5 pipes? Longer, quieter mufflers and well crafted pipes. Honestly, not much of a step up to Gas'N as far as sound or craftsmanship and most importantly---they actually fit!

Jeff

And now I'm curious. Will the MkV pipes fit a MkIV? Are the mount points and all that the same?

[michael everson]

They look identical to me.
Mike

[PMD24]

Installed my Gas-N headers and sidepipes this week. It's a shame about the new owners dropping the ball. I've got some experience with specialty welders and the folks that welded these pipes are artists. I swear that some of the welds are 1/16". Beautiful workmanship!

Pat

[OB6]

Installed my Gas-N headers and sidepipes this week. It's a shame about the new owners dropping the ball. I've got some experience with specialty welders and the folks that welded these pipes are artists. I swear that some of the welds are 1/16". Beautiful workmanship!

Pat

I agree the craftsmanship is excellent. However, I think their management challenges are bleeding into their QC routines because as I've mentioned in another thread, I have one pipe that's 1.5" longer than the other. I talked to Horacio about it and he was more than willing to make it right. After that I never heard back and I haven't been able to make contact, so unfortunately I've decided to leave well enough alone. At least you can't see both pipes at the same time and other than the length problem, they fit perfectly without shims or any other drama.

[smoocheese]

Been 2 weeks and still im getting ghosted, instagram dm, email nothing, got them on a call once and they promised to email me an update on when its getting delivered

Nothing so far

To say im disappointed is an underestimate

[CW_MI]

FWIW, I called them last week Friday. Left a message, and got a call back within a couple of hours. I wanted to see what their lead times were. I'm supposedly in their que and will get a call when they start a production run of the headers I want.

We will see. I'm many months away from needing them, but hearing how things are going , I might as well get them ordered.

[Jeff Kleiner]

FWIW, I called them last week Friday. Left a message, and got a call back within a couple of hours. I wanted to see what their lead times were. I'm supposedly in their que and will get a call when they start a production run of the headers I want.

We will see. I'm many months away from needing them, but hearing how things are going , I might as well get them ordered.

Curious---does "in their que" mean that you've paid 100% up front with no estimate for delivery timeframe? Asking for a friend ;)

Jeff

[CW_MI]

Curious---does "in their que" mean that you've paid 100% up front with no estimate for delivery timeframe? Asking for a friend ;)

Jeff

So far, the lady that I talked with did not ask for payment. The next call will require it, I'm sure. And she told me, since I'm only ordering mine with a natural finish, 4 to 6 weeks.
The thing is, they are the only game in town, unless one has a shop close by that can make them some custom headers. It does feel like I'm rolling the dice though.

[Mike.Bray]

Only game in town? Why do you say that?

[CW_MI]

Only game in town? Why do you say that?

If not, where else can I order a set of SBF 1 3/4" primary headers with a 3" flange spacing for a Mk5 ? And work with the FFR side pipes that I already have ?

I'd much rather give my money to a company that may or may not deliver.

[PNWTim]

Here is some real world, current perspective. I ordered my headers and side pipes for my coupe in mid-November. I finally managed to get Horacio on the phone and he said since they were bare stainless I could have them as early as the end of December, early January. Started checking in half way through January. I have not spoken directly with anyone since my initial conversation. I have exchanged texts, left VMs, used the chat function and just checked in every day or two. Last week I received my headers. Tomorrow I am supposed to receive my side pipes, hanger kit, mounting kit and collectors.

I also agree with the previous statement about the only game in town, particularly for a Coyote equipped Coupe. As far as I know, they are it. So you either eat the communication frustration or go with the F5 gear.

[Mike.Bray]

If not, where else can I order a set of SBF 1 3/4" primary headers with a 3" flange spacing for a Mk5 ? And work with the FFR side pipes that I already have ?

I'd much rather give my money to a company that may or may not deliver.

As I've said before I'm very happy with my FFR pipes, especially after having them ceramic coated. Kleiner says the MK5 pipes are very nice and they reportable fit a MKIV.

Their 302 headers are 1 5/8" primary and their 351 headers are 1 3/4" primary. Agree the 3" flange bolt spacing would be nice but that's more of a want than a need isn't it?

Call me crazy but I have no interest in giving my money to a company that may not deliver. Or if they do deliver they're wrong.

Good luck!

[CW_MI]

As I've said before I'm very happy with my FFR pipes, especially after having them ceramic coated. Kleiner says the MK5 pipes are very nice and they reportable fit a MKIV.

Their 302 headers are 1 5/8" primary and their 351 headers are 1 3/4" primary. Agree the 3" flange bolt spacing would be nice but that's more of a want than a need isn't it?

Call me crazy but I have no interest in giving my money to a company that may not deliver. Or if they do deliver they're wrong.

Good luck!

I definitely wasn't impressed with the Gen3 coupe SBF headers, maybe the Mk5 are different, perhaps I should have given them a chance and checked them out...hindsight is 20/20 though.

You aren't crazy for thinking that way, crazy is those of us willing to roll the dice. Even though $1200 is a drop in the bucket when building one of these cars, it still is a lot of money.

[Mike.Bray]

You aren't crazy for thinking that way, crazy is those of us willing to roll the dice. Even though $1200 is a drop in the bucket when building one of these cars, it still is a lot of money.

I'm not good at rolling the dice. Been to Vegas more times than I can count, have yet to gamble a nickel.

[CW_MI]

I'm not good at rolling the dice. Been to Vegas more times than I can count, have yet to gamble a nickel.

I never said I liked it...gambling is one of those things that just never made sense to me. And talk is cheap...sitting here typing, if and when I get that call to actually place an order I might not be feeling so free and easy.

[OB6]

If any of you get in touch with them, please ask if they can get me a DS sidepipe that's the same length as the PS. :D

[CW_MI]

If any of you get in touch with them, please ask if they can get me a DS sidepipe that's the same length as the PS. :D

Come on now...you can only see one side at a time, why so critical ?? ;)

[Mike.Bray]

Come on now...you can only see one side at a time, why so critical ?? ;)

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[OB6]

Come on now...you can only see one side at a time, why so critical ?? ;)

Good point, I might paint each side of the car different colors.

[Tooth]

I'm very happy with my Gas-n pipes. But, I had some drips in the finish. Three year build, so by the time I got around to addressing it the new owners stepped up and took care of it. There was some miscommunication because I had changed my order to ceramic coated via phone call with Georgie, so there was no record of the change. New owner took care of it regardless.

[CW_MI]

Good point, I might paint each side of the car different colors.

Hell yeah, could be a trend setter !

[Rian_Colorado]

Apparently no-one else has heard of Boig?

Yes, Bob passed away, but tubular auto still makes and ships them. They fit PERFECTLY on my Coupe with a Coyote..... I know they made them for most other flavors too.

Rian

[CW_MI]

Apparently no-one else has heard of Boig?

Yes, Bob passed away, but tubular auto still makes and ships them. They fit PERFECTLY on my Coupe with a Coyote..... I know they made them for most other flavors too.

Rian

Thanks for the reply. I'll give them a call today.

[M22_COBRA]

Apparently no-one else has heard of Boig?

Yes, Bob passed away, but tubular auto still makes and ships them. They fit PERFECTLY on my Coupe with a Coyote..... I know they made them for most other flavors too.

Rian

I bought the lower rad hose recently, nice piece but $ for what it is. Helpful folks also, kept me updated thru the mfg.
As previously stated they were bought out. They do not use credit cards, its done by mailing a check... old school, so be prepared.

[Papa]

If not, where else can I order a set of SBF 1 3/4" primary headers with a 3" flange spacing for a Mk5 ? And work with the FFR side pipes that I already have ?

I'd much rather give my money to a company that may or may not deliver.

Look at GP Headers.

https://www.gpheaders.com/products/cobra-kit-headers/

[CW_MI]

Apparently no-one else has heard of Boig?

Yes, Bob passed away, but tubular auto still makes and ships them. They fit PERFECTLY on my Coupe with a Coyote..... I know they made them for most other flavors too.

Rian

Just talked to them. They have nothing for a SBF in the Mk5 chassis.

[Mike.Bray]

Just talked to them. They have nothing for a SBF in the Mk5 chassis.

Is there any difference in headers for a MKIV and a MK5?

[CW_MI]

Is there any difference in headers for a MKIV and a MK5?

You've been a part of the FFR community far longer, and have much more experience than I have with these builds....you'd be more knowledgeable to answer that question than I.

[Mike.Bray]

You've been a part of the FFR community far longer, and have much more experience than I have with these builds....you'd be more knowledgeable to answer that question than I.

I haven't built a MK5 but I looked on the FFR website and it looks like the 351W headers are the same for the MKIV and MK5, 16793. So maybe ask Boig about headers for a MKIV.

[Papa]

I don't think Boig Motorsports makes or sells headers at all.

[CW_MI]

I haven't built a MK5 but I looked on the FFR website and it looks like the 351W headers are the same for the MKIV and MK5, 16793. So maybe ask Boig about headers for a MKIV.

After you asked that, i went and looked, also saw the part numbers are the same, although a forum member here is building a Mk5 with a 351, and had clearance issues with the FFR headers. Regardless, i don't want the FFR headers.

If the GasN thing doesn't work out, i'll just have someone locally fabricate them.

[Jeff Kleiner]

Just talked to them. They have nothing for a SBF in the Mk5 chassis.


Is there any difference in headers for a MKIV and a MK5?

No, they are the same.

Jeff

[CW_MI]

No, they are the same.

Jeff

Good to know, thanks.

[Rian_Colorado]

I bought my entire exhaust, headers and pipes from Boig/Tubular. So I know that they DID make them, and would assume that they still do.

Granted this was for a Coupe with a Coyote, but I know they were making them for many other models when Bob was alive. I know that tubular took over (I think I remember that they were the ones building them for Bob anyway).

Yes, it's old school "send a check first", and that bothers some people. I've not ever heard of a problem though. I've ordered cool tubes for 2 builds, and the exhaust - and always got what I paid for

Adding to the old school, their marketing sucks, and the web page is still Bobs from YEARS ago. They seem more interested in building the parts than the website (which makes me feel warm and fuzzy)

Yes, the finish is raw, and they don't do stainless. I black Cera-coated mine for the Coupe

RR

[Loadmaster22]

My experience with Gas-n Performance has been nothing but awful. I ordered Touring side pipes on June 5, 2025 and have yet to receive them. I contacted them 20 weeks after I ordered them and was told they were in the final phase of polishing. I contacted them again at week 34 and was told the exact same thing. I called them again on week 36 and was told they would be shipped out in 2 days. I was contacted by them last week at week 38 and was told they accidently shipped my order to someone else and they would contact me with an estimated ship date. I will be contacting them today to cancel my order. It seems that they have no idea how to run an efficient company and it has all fallen apart since it was sold. I would discourage anyone from ordering with them in the future but if you want to wait 9 months to be told they sent your order to someone else, then by all means order at your own risk.

[Mike.Bray]

My experience with Gas-n Performance has been nothing but awful. I ordered Touring side pipes on June 5, 2025 and have yet to receive them. I contacted them 20 weeks after I ordered them and was told they were in the final phase of polishing. I contacted them again at week 34 and was told the exact same thing. I called them again on week 36 and was told they would be shipped out in 2 days. I was contacted by them last week at week 38 and was told they accidently shipped my order to someone else and they would contact me with an estimated ship date. I will be contacting them today to cancel my order. It seems that they have no idea how to run an efficient company and it has all fallen apart since it was sold. I would discourage anyone from ordering with them in the future but if you want to wait 9 months to be told they sent your order to someone else, then by all means order at your own risk.

I hope you get you money back.

[drewr]

Bob Boig made my quiet pipes for my coupe. Yes, they make headers. I got the pipes and headers together.

[cv2065]

Yeah that sucks. Sounds like they’ve ruined this business. So unfortunate. Hope you get your money back

[CW_MI]

I bought my entire exhaust, headers and pipes from Boig/Tubular. So I know that they DID make them, and would assume that they still do.

Granted this was for a Coupe with a Coyote, but I know they were making them for many other models when Bob was alive. I know that tubular took over (I think I remember that they were the ones building them for Bob anyway).

Yes, it's old school "send a check first", and that bothers some people. I've not ever heard of a problem though. I've ordered cool tubes for 2 builds, and the exhaust - and always got what I paid for

Adding to the old school, their marketing sucks, and the web page is still Bobs from YEARS ago. They seem more interested in building the parts than the website (which makes me feel warm and fuzzy)

Yes, the finish is raw, and they don't do stainless. I black Cera-coated mine for the Coupe

RR


Bob Boig made my quiet pipes for my coupe. Yes, they make headers. I got the pipes and headers together.

I keep hearing this, but when I called them recently, that was not the answer I got (Mk5 302 headers). In fact, I must have caught whomever answered the phone at a bad time...the conversation was quite colorful, and didn't sound too positive about FFR.

[ggunter]

Working in management for a truck dealership for 20 plus years the one thing you CANNOT do to a customer is not communicate. If Gas'n is having growing pains, the smart thing to do as a business owner is to own the problem. You know they have to be reading this forum....I would think they would. I would explain to all on here, that we are having growing pains, and thank all who have believed in us and placed orders that we will expedite all orders as we can and appreciate all of the customers who have stood behind us in our transition. At least get on here and say something. It pisses customers off more than anything to not communicate with them. Hence, we have the discussion going on here right now.

[cv2065]

I keep hearing this, but when I called them recently, that was not the answer I got (Mk5 302 headers). In fact, I must have caught whomever answered the phone at a bad time...the conversation was quite colorful, and didn't sound too positive about FFR.

Boig/Tubular isn't a mecca of customer service either. Who only takes checks by mail these days?? :confused:

[CW_MI]

Boig/Tubular isn't a mecca of customer service either. Who only takes checks by mail these days?? :confused:

Funny thing...a local auto restoration shop only takes cash or check. Another local business, a coney island only takes cash.

[Mike.Bray]

Working in management for a truck dealership for 20 plus years the one thing you CANNOT do to a customer is not communicate. If Gas'n is having growing pains, the smart thing to do as a business owner is to own the problem. You know they have to be reading this forum....I would think they would. I would explain to all on here, that we are having growing pains, and thank all who have believed in us and placed orders that we will expedite all orders as we can and appreciate all of the customers who have stood behind us in our transition. At least get on here and say something. It pisses customers off more than anything to not communicate with them. Hence, we have the discussion going on here right now.

I had a similar situation recently with Modern Classics when I ordered a dash panel for my Camaro. They make really nice molded fiberglass dashes, I ordered a center dash insert that houses AC vents, a double DIN radio, and a Dakota Digital climate control for the Vintage Air system. Made contact, got an instant reply, so sent them $400 to place the order. Got emails acknowledging the order and confirming they would ship in three weeks. In that time I emailed them with a couple of questions and they responded right away.

Then they went into radio silence for 6 months. Nothing. Wouldn't answer the phone or emails. About a month ago I starting emailing them every day. Then about three weeks ago I received an email saying my order was shipping. Back to radio silence for a week and a half then another email with the tracking information. Another week went by before the package was dropped off at UPS. Finally received it yesterday.

Delays in delivery are understandable but the radio silence is not acceptable and extremely frustrating. In the end it's a very nice piece but a very poor way to run a business.


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[Mike.Bray]

Funny thing...a local auto restoration shop only takes cash or check. Another local business, a coney island only takes cash.

The shop that does work on my Camaro is the same way, cash or check ONLY. Pretty wild.

[Jeff Kleiner]

Funny thing...a local auto restoration shop only takes cash or check. Another local business, a coney island only takes cash.

Funny, customers ask me if I do PayPal, Venmo, etc. and I answer that I only deal in "real" money---cash or check ;) And sometimes in the universal currency of males---BEER.

Jeff

[Waltman]

I would love to take delivery of my GASN pipes, I ordered and paid for in full, $2,920 on 5th July 2025 and still no news on a delivery date a full 8 months later!

No replies to emails, then cryptic messages and no commitment to delivering.

[JMD]

Wow. Makes me happy I got mine 2 years ago. I think they're a great product, exactly what I was looking for. Now I'm holding on to them forever! ;)

[JimStone]

The Factory Five stainless pipes and headers that came with my kit are pretty darn nice.

I thought about "upgrading" to Gas'N, maybe mostly due to the peer pressure on the board that "Gas'N are better"

I'm now quite satisfied with my purchase.

[edwardb]

I've been a big supporter of Gas-N on all my builds except the truck which used the kit provided undercar system. My Coupe has the prototype Gas-N headers and dual side pipes. Worked with Georgie to get that worked out and they've been great. But that was 5+ years ago and clearly things have changed. This always was a side business for the larger company business and as I understand Georgie has retired. Couple that with the fact the Factory Five has clearly upped their game on this topic. The latest side pipes that came with my 30th anniversary Mk5 look very nice and are supposedly longer and quieter. I don't have anything to compare them with and they're still in the box. But I have no plans to change them. I'm thinking that Gas-N upgrades might be in the rear view mirror. Hopefully those that are still waiting or have paid will get their parts.

[Blitzboy54]

Another alternative is Classic Chambered Exhaust. I purchased custom mufflers from them and had them welded in. I lengthened the side pipes and made them a lot quieter and deeper in tone. Truth be told I welded them in initially but should not have, the person I hired did a tremendous job so I had him re do my work. All in all it was pennies on the dollar. To be clear though if you want polished your out of luck. This is a mild steel version only. You would then have to have them coated in something.

https://www.classicchambered.com/

Good luck, I lose my mind when ignored. Particularly if you have taken my money.

[Mike.Bray]

The Factory Five stainless pipes and headers that came with my kit are pretty darn nice.

I thought about "upgrading" to Gas'N, maybe mostly due to the peer pressure on the board that "Gas'N are better"

I'm now quite satisfied with my purchase.

As I've said before I had no complaints with my Factory Five supplied headers and sidepipes. The fit and finish was A-1 and the sound is fine for us. But to be fair my wife and I both love loud cars and I'm half deaf.

The only thing Gas N offered that I would have like is SBF headers with a 3" bolt spacing. Other than that I saw nothing wrong with the FFR supplied ones.

[CW_MI]

As I've said before I had no complaints with my Factory Five supplied headers and sidepipes. The fit and finish was A-1 and the sound is fine for us. But to be fair my wife and I both love loud cars and I'm half deaf.

The only thing Gas N offered that I would have like is SBF headers with a 3" bolt spacing. Other than that I saw nothing wrong with the FFR supplied ones.

The FFR SBF headers are nice...I've seen them. The problem is the bolt spacing and port shape, they don't match the modern SBF heads that most people use now. (AFR, DART, etc.) I brought that up a while back, when a buddy was building his coupe. I know people say it doesn't matter, but it does. Two people that work in airflow development at Roush , one of which did the cylinder heads for the coupe motor , confirmed this. Why spend the money to make power, then bolt a set of headers on that will hurt performance ?

At this point, it's either those, take a chance with Gas N or build my own. " My old man is a television repairman, he's got this ultimate set of tools. I can fix it."

[cv2065]

As I've said before I had no complaints with my Factory Five supplied headers and sidepipes. The fit and finish was A-1 and the sound is fine for us. But to be fair my wife and I both love loud cars and I'm half deaf.

The only thing Gas N offered that I would have like is SBF headers with a 3" bolt spacing. Other than that I saw nothing wrong with the FFR supplied ones.

I agree. Now that I've had both, I think I like the harsher sound a little more from the FFR provided ones. There are a few posts that I've read from the past that the welds don't hold up over time but I never had any issues.

[Mr.French]

Seems I’m having the same problem here too. Ordered both headers and exhaust Nov. 25th and still don’t have any update. Called 3 times last week. Texted 4 times. Left one Vm. And now just emailed and still not a peep. I heard their product is great but there is no excuse to completely ghost your customers, especially when they are paying north of $3k. Customer service is absolute garbage. They are now the sole reason for the hold up on my build.

[Loadmaster22]

seems like you and I are in the same boat with Gas-N. Ordered mine on June 5, 2025 and have nothing but issues contacting them. Its been 10 months now and still no delivery date in site. They did call me 3 weeks ago to inform me that they shipped my side pipes to someone else but have been ghosted since. I've tried calling, e-mail and the chat function on the site with no response.

[cv2065]

I just spoke to them twice yesterday for sidepipe gaskets, once on the phone and once via text. They sent my gaskets out same day. Not sure where the breakdown is?

[CW_MI]

I just spoke to them twice yesterday for sidepipe gaskets, once on the phone and once via text. They sent my gaskets out same day. Not sure where the breakdown is?

Seems like your experience isn't the norm. I was able to communicate with them twice, a couple of months ago. I called close to three weeks ago, figured I'd roll the dice and just order a set of headers. Left a message with them with exactly what I wanted and that I was ready to purchase, and also a text. I've heard nothing back from them.

I'm done with them, ended up finding something else, not exactly what I wanted but should work. If they don't, I'll just fabricate my own (with help)

[Jeff Kleiner]

I just spoke to them twice yesterday for sidepipe gaskets, once on the phone and once via text. They sent my gaskets out same day. Not sure where the breakdown is?

That’s probably because those gaskets are readily from vendors like Breeze…which would have been my first call anyway.

Jeff

[65 Cobra Dude]

These were ordered in August and just received last night. Worth the wait if you can afford to wait in my opinion.

Henry

Update, pics won’t upload. I’ll try when I get on my big boy computer. ��

[cv2065]

That’s probably because those gaskets are readily from vendors like Breeze…which would have been my first call anyway.

Jeff

My first call was to Breeze, but Mark no longer has inventory and doesn't know when he's going to get another supplier. Mark said that Gas-N had those 1-7/8" sized gaskets made specifically for those pipes. FFR has gaskets but they are not from the same supplier so not exactly sure the quality or size similarities.

[CW_MI]

FWIW....GasN seems to be back. They've reached out to me twice in the last couple of days, finally returning my call from over a month ago.

They are at the end of a 302 run, he said he had a set for me in the que, I opted out, since I bought those older full length BBK headers. Hope those work for me, and that I'm not regretting passing on the GasN's.

[cv2065]

I ordered an extra set of gaskets and a girl from Gas N reached out to be sure I wasn’t stacking the gaskets for a pipe that maybe was misaligned. She said she wanted to fix it necessary.

That was cool. But then sent them an email last week and have t heard back yet.