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M22_COBRA
08-21-2025, 05:15 PM
This MAY be nothing but I'd appreciate some community help.
I've really been holding off on asking this question. I may be attempting to run before I can walk and that's the problem.
I'm trying to confirm function before I drop the engine in as it's easier to fix before it's installed.
Putting in the electrical for the coyote gen 3, everything is hooked up ( minus engine), everything seems to be functioning properly from gauges to buttons, switches, keys, Master power.... ect. I have power at the PCM, I haven't heard the pump come on but there is no fuel in it right now. I've confirmed more than once that the SMR is hooked up properly and going to the blue "N starter seloinoid switch" wire.

To be clear, I do not have my engine in. And I do not have the engine wiring loom plugged into the PCM, middle plug. That may be my problem, but when I turn the key and everything is powered up I see no power from the solenoid wire?? When the key is turned power comes on the Start post where the SMR wire starts.
I have power at the haat wire to the fuse box. I checked the engine inline plug and the main posts have power. All my fuses are good....
Is it the fact that I haven't completed the circuit by having the full engine loom connected that is stopping me from seeing a signal at the seloinoid wire?

Nigel Allen
08-21-2025, 11:01 PM
All relays in the Power Control Module (PCM) are directly controlled by the by the Engine Control Module (ECM). Without the ECM being fully functional, don't expect fuel pump or starter relays to energise.

Also would not recommend running fuel pump without fuel in the tank.

Sounds like you are getting close. Good luck with your first start.

Cheers,

Nigel

M22_COBRA
08-22-2025, 06:11 AM
All relays in the Power Control Module (PCM) are directly controlled by the by the Engine Control Module (ECM). Without the ECM being fully functional, don't expect fuel pump or starter relays to energize.
Cheers,

Nigel

10-4 on the fuel pump. After the first couple powerups for check and no sound I just disconnected the power to the pump to avoid potentially it coming on and burning it out.
Thanks for the sanity check Nigel, I was thinking the same that it needed the full loop & connection but needed someone else to talk me into it. If there was enough room Id roll the engine over to the connection and plug it in, but there is not.

CraigS
08-22-2025, 07:50 AM
Now it's time to install the engine since everything else checkable works.

M22_COBRA
08-22-2025, 12:18 PM
I'm right there. Ready to cut my floor pallet for asm, bolt up the stuff from the engine plate back. EXCITING TIMES!

edwardb
08-22-2025, 01:44 PM
I wouldn't expect any Coyote electrical tests to be definitive until the engine is in and everything plugged in. Personally, my conservative side would say don't apply power to the system until it's completely together.