Removing the TKX without pulling the engine w/IRS

[Mbufford]

Hello gurus,

I’ve been searching on this question and haven’t come to see a clear answer.

I made the mistake of not installing a reluctor ring on my crank when I built and installed my powertrain. Needless to say, my heroic first start day was crushing when it didn’t and I committed myself to not sleeping until I figured out the problem.

I ordered the part and need to get the car ready to install it.

I’ve seen multiple threads where people remove the trans without taking the engine out, but not with the Coyote/IRS/TKX setup.

With the short driveshaft, is there enough room to pull the bell housing and trans from underneath? Or will I have to pull the engine out?

I’d rather get a clear answer on this before I spend half the day on my back fighting something I can’t win.

Thanks in advance!

[cv2065]

Not a Coyote expert but looks easy enough to install. You do have to take off the bell, clutch assembly and flywheel. That's a lot underneath a car with only a little room to work unless you have a lift. I don't, so I'd most likely be pulling the engine and trans together. Then you can make quick work of it outside the car and then stuff it back in.

https://www.bing.com/videos/riverview/relatedvideo?&q=installing+coyote+reluctor+ring&&mid=01A791B5618F4766121601A791B5618F47661216&mmscn=mtsc&aps=132&FORM=VRDGAR

[Papa t]

A several weeks ago, I removed a T56 from a coyote that was installed in a Gen 3 Daytona. With a lift, a trans lift and an experienced helper it took over 3 hours to pull and 5 hours to install. There is not room to slide the transmission back far enough without tilting the engine. Which means loosing the exhaust pipes. Since we couldn’t move the trans back enough to clear the bell housing. We removed it. I don’t know your bell housing bolt configuration, but for the T56 the top bolt is almost impossible to reach under the car. The top transmission cover was not rivets and we when through it. Also, to reinstall, we had to cut a trans crossmember and re-weld because the trans wouldn’t move up and back enough to clear the bell housing.

[Dave108]

I have a coyote gen3 with a TKX and IRS. I had interference inside the Bell housing from the flywheel last summer when go carting my MK4. I was able to pull the transmission and bell housing from underneath the car without removing the engine. I did have the car up on jack stands and borrowed a transmission jack. But it came out and went back in without any significant issues and the engine was not removed.

[Mbufford]

Not a Coyote expert but looks easy enough to install. You do have to take off the bell, clutch assembly and flywheel. That's a lot underneath a car with only a little room to work unless you have a lift. I don't, so I'd most likely be pulling the engine and trans together. Then you can make quick work of it outside the car and then stuff it back in.

https://www.bing.com/videos/riverview/relatedvideo?&q=installing+coyote+reluctor+ring&&mid=01A791B5618F4766121601A791B5618F47661216&mmscn=mtsc&aps=132&FORM=VRDGAR

There’s nothing easy about installing the Coyote—there is zero wiggle room, and the headers are a nightmare to get on or off—especially the driver’s side. If it were an easy endeavor, I wouldn’t be trying to find another way. But also thinking down the road for clutch replacements—there’s no way the engine comes out with the body on.

[Mbufford]

I have a coyote gen3 with a TKX and IRS. I had interference inside the Bell housing from the flywheel last summer when go carting my MK4. I was able to pull the transmission and bell housing from underneath the car without removing the engine. I did have the car up on jack stands and borrowed a transmission jack. But it came out and went back in without any significant issues and the engine was not removed.

Exactly the information I was looking for—thank you! Aside from my engine being gen 2, which has the same geometry, we have the same setup.

Did you completely pull the driveshaft out of the tranny, such that I’d need to drain it first? Or is there enough front-to-back room to pull it out in one go?

[cv2065]

There’s nothing easy about installing the Coyote—there is zero wiggle room, and the headers are a nightmare to get on or off—especially the driver’s side. If it were an easy endeavor, I wouldn’t be trying to find another way. But also thinking down the road for clutch replacements—there’s no way the engine comes out with the body on.

True, either way has its challenges. Sounds like you've made up your mind. :D

[Dave108]

Yes I pulled the driveshaft. I cant remember if I drained the transmission or not. I think I did, but can't find my notes. I did have the car jacked up pretty high like about 24 inches so the transmission on the jack would clear the frame. I think it was definitely easier than pulling the engine trans assembly. I also removed the bell housing. All went back together without issue.