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PNWTim
03-10-2025, 11:32 AM
The Background

I thought it might be helpful to share my experience with a mini split install which I did about 3 weeks ago. This won't be so much of an install thread as just a review of my personal experience. For a little background, I live in Oregon, outside of Portland about 20 miles east. I retired in January of 2024 and realized I spend more time in my garage than I do in my house during the day. Portland can get relatively cold in the winter with streaks of weather in the 20's and 30's.

I built my shop about 15 years ago. It's 1800 sq ft with scissor truss ceilings (12' at peak) and is stick built. I put the maximum amount of insulation in it that was available. I think the batts in my ceiling are almost 2' thick. There is a wall that divides the build in half so each portion is 900 sq. ft. I have a 5000 watt Dayton heater in each half which I have used for heat. When truly cold outside (December/January) it would take about 2 hours to get comfortable inside. I am not a polar bear so like my working temperature to be around 68F.

Fast forward to a month ago. We had a long streak of cold weather, I received my electric bill for Dec/Jan and it was $200 higher than I expected. PGE has given us significant rate increases and although our hydroelectric power is still less than other areas, that delta stung a bit. I embarked on a research project and decided to install a mini split. I was originally going to install a 2 head unit but then realized it was more costly than installing two separate units so I decided to beta test the garage and if it panned out, install another in the woodshop. Based on extensive research (much of which was a bit overwhelming), I chose a Pioneer Inverter+ in the 18K size. This unit is appropriate up to 1000 sq/ft.

https://www.pioneerminisplit.com/collections/wys/products/18-000-btu-ductless-dc-inverter-mini-split-air-conditioner-heat-pump-230-vac?variant=14703002222634

The Install

The unit arrived in two boxes containing the compressor and the head unit. Both were packed well and in good condition upon arrival. I had determined where I wanted the head unit and did a quick layout and installation of the mounting plate. These units are meant to be installed eight to nine feet above the floor. I had watched many, many YouTube's on this topic and in one I caught a useful tip which had me drill the through holes slightly lower than shown on the template. This turned out to be excellent advice. This portion installed easily. I had to do a bit of electrical work which included installing a 4 slot subpanel on the wall close to where the original heater circuit wiring was. I used this circuit to power the mini split and ran additional conduit and shut off box outside for the second unit.

Because the head unit was relatively close to the compressor I went ahead and cut and flared the refrigerant lines so I wouldn't have an extra coil to deal with. This was a little nerve wracking but I did a lot of flares on my last car project so I felt I could do it. I mounted the compressor unit on a wall stand about 4' up so it was at a comfortable working height. I connected everything up and installed a cover for the lines to clean it up a bit. All of this work was very straight forward and just basic carpentry and electrical work.

The Charge and Test

This is where things got interesting. One of the reasons I decided to attempt this project is because I had almost everything needed to complete it (manifold gauges, vacuum pump, etc.). Once installed, you do need to vacuum the lines, then do a quick purge, test for leaks and release the refrigerant (they come with a can of refrigerant inside the compressor unit) to fill the lines. Well, to put it succinctly, mine would not hold vacuum. The problem with this scenario is it's telling you you have a leak but not how to find the leak. Leaking air into a vacuum is not the same as leaking pressure to atmosphere i.e. it's hard to find. So I stewed around for a few days, did way too much research and finally landed on the idea I needed to pressurize the system so I could find the leak (this is what installers do). Went down to Airgas and rented a 40 ft cylinder of nitrogen. Bought a gauge set off Amazon, hooked up the bottle and gosh, what do you know? The system held 200 psi of nitrogen for 4 hours. Now it's a real head-scratcher. Logically, the system is sealed if the nitrogen isn't going anywhere. Ergo, if it's sealed it should hold vacuum. Ensue another 2 days of stewing around knowing I knew just enough to know I didn't know anything.

I called my buddy who I remembered was a HVAC guy at one time. We walked through the entire scenario and what does he say? "Your manifold gauge set from Harbor Freight is leaking". Never dawned on me to question the tool I was using. Bought a Yellow Jacket gauge set (can use it on the Coupe when the time comes), pulled vacuum (it held for 4 hours), purged the air for a second or two, released the refrigerant, and have enjoyed a warm, dry 68F shop ever since.

Summary

Am I going to install the second unit in my woodshop? Absolutely! Was it a bit of a pain in the *** and cause severe mental anguish for a week or so - yes. But, I write that experience off to bad luck. Had I not had a faulty manifold gauge set it would've been a piece of cake. I think I can probably install the second unit in 2 days, start to finish. For those of you wondering about the cost, here is a quick breakdown:

Pioneer Unit - $1050
Ancillary Parts (line cover, wall bracket, etc.) $125
Electrical supplies (wire, subpanel, shut off box, wire and whip) $150
Other crap I had to buy and rent which I am not counting was about $200

Based on wattage usage my projected monthly cost to run this is somewhere in the neighborhood of $50/month in winter. So, all in, I think the ROI on this investment is probably going to be fulfilled by December of this year as I am looking forward to some air-conditioned summer days in the shop as well. I hope you find this write-up helpful.

gbranham
03-10-2025, 12:28 PM
I put a Mr. Cool 36K BTU mini split in my 30x30 insulated shop. I got it on Amazon, and it came with pre-charged lines, so no HVAC nonsense to deal with. Installed it in one day, and it's been great for the 3 years I've had it. Keeps it plenty toasty in the winter, and cool in the summer. Definitely a great enhancement to the man cave/shop.

Greg

i.e.427
03-10-2025, 02:29 PM
We have installed a number of the Pioneer Mini-split systems. In the end, as you'll see in the video, it was just easier in the long run to have our A/C guy come out and do the start up. Almost a year later on the latest one, much the same unit as yours, the system has been working flawlessly. One word of warning if you ever plan to "hang" the unit on a wall outside an actual living space. The outdoor unit will rattle (shake) the wall. If you aren't prepared for this, it may make sleeping a bit difficult. One of the reasons we installed the most recent one on a concrete pad.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-q-SwQaaqw

PNWTim
03-10-2025, 03:15 PM
We have installed a number of the Pioneer Mini-split systems. In the end, as you'll see in the video, it was just easier in the long run to have our A/C guy come out and do the start up. Almost a year later on the latest one, much the same unit as yours, the system has been working flawlessly. One word of warning if you ever plan to "hang" the unit on a wall outside an actual living space. The outdoor unit will rattle (shake) the wall. If you aren't prepared for this, it may make sleeping a bit difficult. One of the reasons we installed the most recent one on a concrete pad.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-q-SwQaaqw

Thanks for ringing in. I actually ordered rubber equipment isolation pads and used them between the wall bracket and wall which eliminated much of the vibration. I can only tell it's running if I put my hand against the wall. But you are right, I would not want the unit sharing a wall where I am sleeping - a garage doesn't really matter.

i.e.427
03-12-2025, 07:09 PM
Just as a follow-up. I just recently added the Wi-Fi/Blutooth dongle to the unit out in the work shop. Game changer. I can be on my way to the shop and have the shop warming up before I even get there. It's awesome.

Frank

PNWTim
03-13-2025, 09:27 AM
It's always interesting when you find out you don't know what you don't know. After I installed my unit I came to the conclusion it was probably better to simply leave it on 24/7 as they run better when they are not spiking energy to excessively heat or cool.

In the process of researching this I discovered there are smart thermostats for these units which for me makes a lot of sense (some are Wi-Fi, some are hardwired). I will drop the temp down 5 or 6 degrees during the night then slowly ramp up in the early morning to the 68 - 69F I keep it at during the day.

Dave Tabor
03-13-2025, 11:22 AM
will it fit in a Gen III Coupe?

PNWTim
03-13-2025, 03:50 PM
will it fit in a Gen III Coupe?

If you have your magic shrink ray I think so.

Skuzzy
03-13-2025, 04:20 PM
will it fit in a Gen III Coupe?

Maybe not "in", but "on" could be a possibility. :) Might need to re-think the size of the alternator though.