View Full Version : Headlight switch toggle to button?
hennessyVV
12-29-2024, 09:57 PM
Anyone using a button for their headlight switch? Mainly for the low beams.
PROS and CONS?
Mike.Bray
12-29-2024, 10:22 PM
Yes for both headlights and high beams. Love it, can't think of any downsides.
hennessyVV
12-30-2024, 12:28 PM
Hey Mike, just sent pm!
Dave108
12-30-2024, 06:30 PM
I wanted to use a lighted button to switch on the high beams, but could not find a latching switch that would work. What did you use?
Mike.Bray
12-30-2024, 06:57 PM
I wanted to use a lighted button to switch on the high beams, but could not find a latching switch that would work. What did you use?
I used these buttons, you can order them in momentary or latching. Very nice quality.
https://billetautomotivebuttons.com/collections/22mm-billet-buttons
BrewCityCobra
12-30-2024, 09:04 PM
Anyone using a button for their headlight switch? Mainly for the low beams.
PROS and CONS?
So I swapped out the FFR headlight switch (the pull-style) for two Lucas Toggles. I really like the look and operation. I used one three-position switch to toggle between Off/Running Lights/Running and Headlights and a second to two-position switch to toggle the headlights between high and low beam.
I included some schematics about how I went about making the switch in my build thread:
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showthread.php?38979-The-Brew-City-Cobra-427W-IRS-Quick-Jacks-Installed-Horn-Updated&p=492005&viewfull=1#post492005
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showthread.php?38979-The-Brew-City-Cobra-427W-IRS-Quick-Jacks-Installed-Horn-Updated&p=509163&viewfull=1#post509163
The key is making sure you replicate all the operations covered by the pull-switch itself, namely, courtesy light control, headlight control, dash light control, headlight circuit breakers, and the like. I found it worked best using four relays.
cv2065
12-30-2024, 10:30 PM
I'm using a pull for the lights and a push for the brights.
hennessyVV
12-31-2024, 12:14 AM
So I swapped out the FFR headlight switch (the pull-style) for two Lucas Toggles. I really like the look and operation. I used one three-position switch to toggle between Off/Running Lights/Running and Headlights and a second to two-position switch to toggle the headlights between high and low beam.
I included some schematics about how I went about making the switch in my build thread:
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showthread.php?38979-The-Brew-City-Cobra-427W-IRS-Quick-Jacks-Installed-Horn-Updated&p=492005&viewfull=1#post492005
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showthread.php?38979-The-Brew-City-Cobra-427W-IRS-Quick-Jacks-Installed-Horn-Updated&p=509163&viewfull=1#post509163
The key is making sure you replicate all the operations covered by the pull-switch itself, namely, courtesy light control, headlight control, dash light control, headlight circuit breakers, and the like. I found it worked best using four relays.
Wow! Your wiring is a thing of beauty! I think I finalized my plan. Having two buttons, one for the low beam and one for the high beam.
Looking at your diagram, is it just as simple as separating the low and high beam into their own respective relays?
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BrewCityCobra
01-01-2025, 11:46 PM
Wow! Your wiring is a thing of beauty! I think I finalized my plan. Having two buttons, one for the low beam and one for the high beam.
Looking at your diagram, is it just as simple as separating the low and high beam into their own respective relays?
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Thanks! To make sure I answer your question correctly, I'm not exactly sure what you mean by "one button for low beam and one for high beam."
In my setup, the left switch (Lucas 35927) is effectively a "low beam switch". When you turn it "on" (e.g., the third position) the low beams will come on just as if you pulled the stock FFR switch all the way out. If you want the high beams you then have to turn the second switch on (Lucas 34889 to the second or up position) which will cause the lights to switch from low beam mode to high beam mode. Turning off the second switch (e.g., back to the first or down position) returns the lights to low beam mode.
The reason both the high and low beam feeds extend from the same relay (R2) in my schematic is so that the low beam's filament or LED will turn off while the high beam is on and vise versa. It is my understanding that this is how stock lights are intended to operate so I designed my circuits to reflect that.
You can re-configure my schematic without too many changes to make "high beam" mode include powering both the low and high beam filaments simultaneously. Let me know if that is what you are looking for and I can explain that in more detail.
It is also worth noting that while I used a three-position left switch (so I have all three stock conditions of off/running lights only/headlights and running lights), you can replace that with a two-position switch and ditch the running lights mode (E.g., just run either off/headlights and running lights). I added a bit more complexity in my system so I'd be reproducing the stock capabilities of the FFR switch as closely as possible.
Let me know if that answers your question at all. If not, I'm happy to give it a second shot if I'm misunderstanding your prompt.
hennessyVV
01-03-2025, 10:50 PM
Thanks! To make sure I answer your question correctly, I'm not exactly sure what you mean by "one button for low beam and one for high beam."
In my setup, the left switch (Lucas 35927) is effectively a "low beam switch". When you turn it "on" (e.g., the third position) the low beams will come on just as if you pulled the stock FFR switch all the way out. If you want the high beams you then have to turn the second switch on (Lucas 34889 to the second or up position) which will cause the lights to switch from low beam mode to high beam mode. Turning off the second switch (e.g., back to the first or down position) returns the lights to low beam mode.
The reason both the high and low beam feeds extend from the same relay (R2) in my schematic is so that the low beam's filament or LED will turn off while the high beam is on and vise versa. It is my understanding that this is how stock lights are intended to operate so I designed my circuits to reflect that.
You can re-configure my schematic without too many changes to make "high beam" mode include powering both the low and high beam filaments simultaneously. Let me know if that is what you are looking for and I can explain that in more detail.
It is also worth noting that while I used a three-position left switch (so I have all three stock conditions of off/running lights only/headlights and running lights), you can replace that with a two-position switch and ditch the running lights mode (E.g., just run either off/headlights and running lights). I added a bit more complexity in my system so I'd be reproducing the stock capabilities of the FFR switch as closely as possible.
Let me know if that answers your question at all. If not, I'm happy to give it a second shot if I'm misunderstanding your prompt.
Hey, I just sent you a pm.