Parts Identification help

[RogerRoger88]

I'm almost finished with my inventory, but I'm struggling with identifying some parts in Box 19 (pedal components, e-brake assembly, master cylinders). Any help in identifying these would be greatly appreciated.

[F500guy]

the square if it is Aluminum, it is a hole cover, there is potentially more holes than items to stick out the front of the foot box.
The L-brackets attach the parking brake lever to the frame I believe
The long piece is the reservoir attachment to the frame
The other 2 are pedal box pieces, master cylinders would go thru the large holes and bolt on.

Check those area in the manual to make sure.

[Grubester]

I had similar questions as I inventoried a few weeks ago: unlabeled parts in multiple bags and an illogical parts naming scheme -- it did not use a hierarchical, rational approach.
The pattern in naming screws for instance, really made in hard to fully ID a part. Often the threads/inch weren't given, etc.
I'm submitting my shortage list this week, but with the caveat that some potential shortages can not be known until I'm at that point in the manual.

[MB750]

the square if it is Aluminum, it is a hole cover, there is potentially more holes than items to stick out the front of the foot box.
The L-brackets attach the parking brake lever to the frame I believe
The long piece is the reservoir attachment to the frame
The other 2 are pedal box pieces, master cylinders would go thru the large holes and bolt on.

Check those area in the manual to make sure.

I always wondered what that longer, rectangle piece was for. Mine's sitting on the table next to my inventory sheets and the car's been in go-kart for months. I just bolted the reservoirs right to the frame rail. That way I could get them as high as possible.

[Jeff Kleiner]

I always wondered what that longer, rectangle piece was for. Mine's sitting on the table next to my inventory sheets and the car's been in go-kart for months. I just bolted the reservoirs right to the frame rail. That way I could get them as high as possible.

Matt,
I’m afraid that you’re going to find that they are too high when you get the body and hood on. Top of the reservoir cap can be no higher than the top of the frame tube (which is why they give you a mount to locate them lower ;)).

Jeff

[MB750]

Matt,
I’m afraid that you’re going to find that they are too high when you get the body and hood on. Top of the reservoir cap can be no higher than the top of the frame tube (which is why they give you a mount to locate them lower ;)).

Jeff


Thanks for the tip Jeff. By a very odd stroke of fortune, looks like I considered that back when I installed them using a wide piece of aluminum:

https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=202915&d=1724083453

https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=202916&d=1724083453

I've still got that SS plate though; in case I need it.

The manual didn't say anything about using that plate for this. Page 195 says to put it on the front of the footbox, or the firewall. Common sense told me that the reservoir needed to be physically higher than the master cylinder, so this was the best place. I've seen others put them in this location as well. Considering FFR incorporates a piece of SS just for this purpose, perhaps they should update the assembly manual.

[Theshandman]

...Top of the reservoir cap can be no higher than the top of the frame tube...Jeff

Which begs a question I've wondered about. Are the brake (and clutch) MCs gravity feed from the reservoirs or does the MC pull fluid in when push/pull cycled?

[RogerRoger88]

the square if it is Aluminum, it is a hole cover, there is potentially more holes than items to stick out the front of the foot box.
The L-brackets attach the parking brake lever to the frame I believe
The long piece is the reservoir attachment to the frame
The other 2 are pedal box pieces, master cylinders would go thru the large holes and bolt on.

Check those area in the manual to make sure.

Thanks Lance for the info!

[RogerRoger88]

I've got a few more unidentified parts. These are from Box 22 - WIL IRS BRAKE LINE ASSEMBLY. I'm supposed to have 4 - 14709 BRAKE LINE MOUNT CLIPs, 4 - 14689 BRAIDED BRAKE LINE MNTs, AND 2 - 16031 WIL IRS E-BRAKE CABLE ADAPTER. Are any of the below these parts? I'm almost finished with inventory, so hopefully I won't have more posts like this.

[JJK]

I believe the first pic (L-brackets) are the e-brake cable adapters, the second picture (rectangle with three holes) are the braided brake line mounts, and the third picture are the mounting clips.
JJK

[MB750]

Which begs a question I've wondered about. Are the brake (and clutch) MCs gravity feed from the reservoirs or does the MC pull fluid in when push/pull cycled?

At first when I installed them, I was using the logic that the level of the reservoir had to be higher than the MC. Now when I think about it, I'm wondering if it matters (after the system is bled and sealed, of course)

Think about it... If the brake pedal or clutch, is pressed, the reservoir is quickly sealed from the rest of the system so all the hydraulic pressure goes to the slave cylinder (caliper, or throwout bearing). Once the pedal is released, the system opens to the reservoir so the fluid can expand and contract with temp changes without moving the slave cylinder piston.

Logic tells us that the fluid will siphon into the reservoir if it's mounted below the MC. But... that only happens if the reservoir is the lowest point of the hydraulic system AND the reservoir is open to atmosphere. Considering the reservoir is only open to atmosphere above the gasket, I'd speculate that there isn't enough force from a siphon effect to push the rubber gasket up within the cap to allow passage of brake fluid in that direction. Hence, the location of the reservoir is moot (after initial bleed, of course).

Maybe I'll test it one of these days. For the time being, I've got MANY more fish to fry on my car.

[RogerRoger88]

I believe the first pic (L-brackets) are the e-brake cable adapters, the second picture (rectangle with three holes) are the braided brake line mounts, and the third picture are the mounting clips.
JJK

Thanks JJK!