View Full Version : Engine unveiling! Hoist tips?
MaxVmo
05-13-2024, 06:17 PM
Finally unboxed my BPE 347! Very excited. What are folks thoughts for buying an engine hoist vs. renting one? Is it worth a rental? Thank you.
MaxVmo
05-13-2024, 06:18 PM
Anyone know how to fix sideways pics? Lol
gbranham
05-13-2024, 06:23 PM
I struggled with sideways pics. I learned to take pics with my phone sideways, so the pics are in 'landscape' orientation. That was the easiest solution I found.
I'd buy a hoist. They're not terribly expensive, and they break down when not in use. I bought mine when I built my MkIII years ago, and have used it many times since.
Legendary
05-13-2024, 06:56 PM
Just buy a 2 ton hoist for the extra reach it gives.
Pmieras
05-13-2024, 07:03 PM
If you have a good network of friends, you might be able to borrow one or even buy used on marketplace or something similar.
But like it was said above. They aren't terribly expensive.
Check Harbor Freight or your local auto parts place (Napa, Autozone, Oriellys)
I'd also agree with a 2 ton hoist for the reach
dbo_texas
05-13-2024, 08:48 PM
1) I recommend a 2-ton hoist simply because the boom arms will be longer and will reach a little better into the engine bay
2) Unless you plan on doing more builds, I'd suggest renting or asking your neighborhood Facebook page if you could borrow one. I did this for many of the "specialty" tools I needed for the build and got lucky - several neighbors had the tools I needed and I made some new friends. New hoist will cost ~$300 for a cheap one (Harbor Freight) plus you probably want to get a leveler (~$50).
MaxVmo
05-13-2024, 08:56 PM
Thank you all for the feedback. I’m assuming the radiator should not be installed during the engine install?
MaxVmo
05-13-2024, 09:02 PM
Better pic:
dbo_texas
05-13-2024, 09:03 PM
Thank you all for the feedback. I’m assuming the radiator should not be installed during the engine install?
I removed mine to be safe...I can't remember if it is 100% required. If you come in from the front with the hoist I think you have to. If you come in from the side, maybe it could stay? I'm sure others with more experience can chime in. This pic shows the issue when you come in from the front --> clearly the radiator would hit the hoist.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=195355&d=1707189799
Mike.Bray
05-13-2024, 09:24 PM
Anyone know how to fix sideways pics? Lol
Save the picture to a Windoze computer. Open it in Paint and resave it. That will fix it.
BUDFIVE
05-14-2024, 01:04 AM
+1 on 2 Ton Hoist and +1 on Leveler as dbo_Texas recommended. Since you asked for tips, in this picture see the red arrow pointing at the leveler crank handle. Position the leveler with the crank on the downward side toward the transmission—otherwise the crank will hit the hoist boom as you tilt the engine down. This is my 3rd engine install in the last 18 months—I learned the hard way. 1-1/2 hours after this pic Sunday, my 347 was bolted in the Roadster.199369
edwardb
05-14-2024, 06:34 AM
Thank you all for the feedback. I’m assuming the radiator should not be installed during the engine install?
Right. Install the engine without the radiator in place. Even with the 2-ton hoist (which I also recommend) you'll be near the maximum reach without the radiator blocking the path. Plus it's one less thing to avoid when dropping the engine in.
I bought my 2-ton Harbor Freight lift and don't regret it. I've used it for multiple tasks other than just car builds. But I agree if you can find someone that has one borrowing is a good thing. Mine has been borrowed a couple of times.
CraigS
05-14-2024, 06:40 AM
IMHO a levelor is mandatory. Use bearing grease on the threads and washers so it operates easily w/ a load. I use a come-a-long from an eye bolt in the ceiling. I roll the car rather than move the engine.
MSumners
05-14-2024, 06:47 AM
Save the picture to a Windoze computer. Open it in Paint and resave it. That will fix it.
If you are using and uploading from an iPhone just hit edit on the picture and crop it, even the very smallest bit, then when you upload orientation will be straight.
Mike.Bray
05-14-2024, 07:46 AM
IMHO a levelor is mandatory. Use bearing grease on the threads and washers so it operates easily w/ a load. I use a come-a-long from an eye bolt in the ceiling. I roll the car rather than move the engine.
A good leveler makes the job easy, a bad leveler makes it unbelievable difficult. I bought a leveler from Northern Tool and my wife and I really struggled with it. When I had to pull the engine back out I bought this one (https://www.summitracing.com/parts/wmr-w41036) from Summit. Night and day difference! I removed the handle and used a socket on a speedhandle to adjust it. With it I was able to remove and reinstall the engine/trans by myself.
David Hodgkins
05-14-2024, 08:36 AM
re: Pic rotation
Pic rotation is usually because the pic is too large. Max is 2000x2000. That's total pixels. I tend to resize all my pics down to 2K width before uploading and I never have rotation issues.
:)
Mike.Bray
05-14-2024, 11:26 AM
These days most picture rotation issues come from the way cell phones work as they automatically rotate the image for you. That's why most of the time you have to reset the orientation.
Tooth
05-14-2024, 11:37 AM
I got the 2 ton from China Freight, then sold it on FB market when I was done. If I had to do it again, I'd just use my 4 post lift and roll the car. Less engine swinging that way too. If I didn't have the lift I'd look at market place first and then sell it back on there.