View Full Version : Miller TIG welder recomendation.
Roadster
02-17-2011, 08:15 AM
Have a MIG already. Was looking for recomendations from you guys that TIG. Looking at a miller unit. Would like 115/220 compatable.
What have you used in the past. Looking for an all around good garage welder. DOM tubing. Aluminum parts etc.
Thanx guys!
Rgds
Rob
prophet
02-17-2011, 08:29 AM
Rob... I am going through this same thing. I am either looking at the Diversion 180 or stepping up to Synchrowave 200. The 200 has more features but isn't as portable. The question is... do I need those features?
Roadster
02-17-2011, 09:32 AM
I was checking out Cyberweld and the Diversion 180 also. Wonder if anyone will chime in. Looks like a pretty good machine.
Wayne Presley
02-17-2011, 02:14 PM
I was checking out Cyberweld and the Diversion 180 also. Wonder if anyone will chime in. Looks like a pretty good machine.
I have the Syncrowave 180 and it's a great machine but is 230V. I'm love to get a Dynasty 200, does AC frequency adjustments from 60-200 Hz and will do 110-230 V input. The higher the freq, the tighter the arc. The diversion is a model below mine but comparable in welding ability.
Mike N
02-17-2011, 03:52 PM
I have had a Dynasty 200 DX for about 7 years now and it's a wonderful machine. I've welded up to 3/8" aluminum with it using multiple passes but if you are planning on doing heavy aluminum get the 300DX. If you get down around the Philly area you are welcome to come test drive it anytime.
Andy@FFR
02-17-2011, 04:09 PM
We have a Dynasty 200 DX here at FFR and I agree with Mike that it's a good machine. Its been very reliable and its got a ton of features, but if your looking for a more basic machine for a lot less money look at the Miller Econo-tig 140. Its a basic gas cooled machine but its half the price of the Dynasty or the Synchrowave and still very capable. For most general use welding you don't need all the features of the higher end machines. Not sure if this is would interest you or not, but I have one at home and have been pretty happy with mine.
Cobra Cory
02-17-2011, 05:53 PM
Look at the Miller Maxstar 150. If this is just a small use TIG you don't need all the fancy smancy stuff until you learn and get better. Then sell the portable unit and get a better one.
http://www.millerwelds.com/products/tig/product.php?model=M00152
Roadster
02-17-2011, 07:59 PM
Cory... for that price id spend the few extra bucks for the diversion 180. Looks like its capable for most everything id wanna do.
Wayne Presley
02-17-2011, 08:29 PM
Cory, the Maxstar is dc only so no aluminum.
BigLeo69
02-17-2011, 08:48 PM
do what i do
just go to my neighbors
he's in the welding hall of fame
wish i never sold my 200le
but it had issues
the neighbor: a stick welder, a small wire feed, a huge wire feed, a hot box, a tig set-up, a brazer. oh if any of those fail i will just go to old school and use a gas-tank and a close hanger
i just buy a spool and tips for him or just beer
bohemianway
02-17-2011, 09:00 PM
I am also looking for TIG. Diversion 180s can be found at ~$1,600 but the Thermal arc 185 at ~ $2,000 has a lot more features (230V only). I just cannot make up my mind. I am a Blue guy because they donated machines to the U (Wisconsin) and are a more modern design than the Lincoln. THe real gripe I have is that with modern power electronics (IGBTs) these machines should be half the price.
Charles
David
02-17-2011, 11:30 PM
Highly recommend getting an inverter welder. I have a lincoln invertech 205 and its really nice fully digital. However, I have heard from a number of people that the Miller makes a bit better TIG welders. Make sure the welder offers adjustable freq and pulse as well. Both great features.
Ive just had a blast welding with it... lots of time to get good at TIG but its a bit like zen when welding with it.
prophet
02-20-2011, 11:10 PM
Highly recommend getting an inverter welder. I have a lincoln invertech 205 and its really nice fully digital. However, I have heard from a number of people that the Miller makes a bit better TIG welders. Make sure the welder offers adjustable freq and pulse as well. Both great features.
Ive just had a blast welding with it... lots of time to get good at TIG but its a bit like zen when welding with it.
And guys who are good with a TIG make the welds look like an art form. I was going to take a class at the local community college if (when) I buy one to kind of cut down on the learning curve and stop any bad habits before I form them. I MIG pretty well so TIG'ing seems like the next evolution for me. My luck it will be like when I first got into powdercoating and I will run around the house finding stuff to weld together. PC'ing once I got decent at it was like crack - nothing was safe in my house if I thought I could coat it.
Wayne Presley
02-21-2011, 12:10 AM
And guys who are good with a TIG make the welds look like an art form. I was going to take a class at the local community college if (when) I buy one to kind of cut down on the learning curve and stop any bad habits before I form them. I MIG pretty well so TIG'ing seems like the next evolution for me. My luck it will be like when I first got into powdercoating and I will run around the house finding stuff to weld together. PC'ing once I got decent at it was like crack - nothing was safe in my house if I thought I could coat it.
What I learned is the after learning to TIG, it improved my MIG welds as you see how to flow the MIG bead like the TIG torch.
prophet
02-21-2011, 09:59 AM
What I learned is the after learning to TIG, it improved my MIG welds as you see how to flow the MIG bead like the TIG torch.
And there's nothing like laying on your back, with your feet hanging out of one the doors, smashed into a footwell, while you try to pull a bead around a roll cage tube. That has to be much easier with a TIG than a MIG.
Wayne Presley
02-21-2011, 11:15 AM
And there's nothing like laying on your back, with your feet hanging out of one the doors, smashed into a footwell, while you try to pull a bead around a roll cage tube. That has to be much easier with a TIG than a MIG.
MIG is easier in that use than TIG.