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Cleve
03-02-2024, 05:59 PM
I ordered a 1400 series hydraulic throw out Berring from McLeod. After looking at the hydraulic piston I was concerned that there wasn't a locking pin, stopping the piston from rotating and eventually separating the supply hose. I went on you tube and the first site came up with a guy that installed this system on his mustang. He said after 6000 miles the hydraulic line was severed and obviously that was a big problem. He came to the conclusion that the forces, that the hydraulic line had to endure, eventually snapped off the swivel fitting. So I would like to install a system that has a pin lock stopping the rotation.

Has anyone had this problem or heard, of this problem with the 1400 series? Or can anyone recommend system with a pin lock for a TKX 5 speed transmission?:
Thanks
Cleve

Mike.Bray
03-02-2024, 06:18 PM
I rank McLeod hyd throwout bearings pretty low. If it's not too late get yourself a Tilton. It definitely has an anti-rotation pin.

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i.e.427
03-02-2024, 06:48 PM
If it were me (and it's not), I would go with a standard throw out bearing, clutch arm and remote slave cylinder kit from Mike Forte.

Frank

Mike.Bray
03-02-2024, 10:21 PM
Internal or external, there are pro's and con's with each so pick your poison. I've always run Tilton internal throwout bearings due to the simplicity and never had an issue.

rich grsc
03-03-2024, 08:30 AM
Bearing

Jeff Kleiner
03-03-2024, 08:53 AM
I'm in the same camp as Frank. I don't see enough benefit to the hydraulic TOB to offset the potential problems.

Jeff

Mike.Bray
03-03-2024, 10:37 AM
I'm in the same camp as Frank. I don't see enough benefit to the hydraulic TOB to offset the potential problems.

Jeff

Curious, by potential problems are you thinking an unlikely leak in the hydraulic cylinder? My experience with throwout bearings has been problems with the linkage or the bearing itself, either of which would require removal of the transmission and bellhousing. I've never had an issue with (quality) hydraulic cylinders.

IDK, to me the external hydraulic cylinder setup looks a little Rube Goldberg. Not to mention it exposes the hydraulic cylinder to the road.

AROCK
03-03-2024, 11:14 AM
I had serious problems with the mcleod 1400 internal throwout bearing. Mine failed twice behind a sbf 427. It constantly leaked down causing the trans not shifting and eventually ruining my 1st and 2nd gears. Because of the throwout bearing the TKX trans was re built twice. The 1400 is pure junk and McLeod would do nothing about it.
I eventually switched to Mike Fortes external clutch fork and throwout setup which worked flawlessly.
The McLeod 1400 throwout is not strong enough to stay behind a 600 hp Ford 427 engine. It failed in less the 500 miles.

edwardb
03-03-2024, 11:25 AM
Tilton HRB in my Coupe. Flawless for four seasons so far. Easy to install and self-adjusting which is a nice benefit. I had an external setup in my 20th Anniversary Roadster with the exact engine/trans/flywheel/clutch setup. I can confirm the effort of the Tilton piece is less. They don’t get a lot of love on here. I get there are risks. Just like everything. But I’d do one again without hesitation. So there you go… No experience with any other brands.

OB6
03-03-2024, 06:46 PM
I originally wanted an internal HRB, but Mike Forte convinced me otherwise for a lot of very valid reasons. Unfortunately we couldn't get it to work without the slave cylinder resting on the frame. So back to internal HRB, and I went with Tilton. I have zero concerns.

ggunter
03-04-2024, 10:30 AM
My Mcleod bearing failed in 4000 miles, went to a Tilton and it leaked in 500 miles. Summit replaced it and the new one has 7000 miles on it and is working fine. I would go with another Tilton.