1.5 ton engine hoist

[nashuanuke]

I know a 1-ton hoist is too small and every post I see recommends a 2 ton. My local shop can rent me a 1.5-ton hoist. Does anyone know is that's enough? Or do I need to find a 2 ton? I've got a Gen-3 Coyote if that matters.

While I'm at it, I got the engine from Mike Forte, well put together but no lifting hardware included. I'm thinking of springing for these, or is there an easier way: https://tdmotion.com/product/coyote-engine-lift-brackets/

[Junbug]

Can’t comment on the lift size but I had no issues with a 2T lift. I believe the distance/length of the arm it gives you is more important than the weight.
I also got the same lifting hardware for my Gen3 from Forte. They worked perfectly.

[Jim1855]

If you are installing the engine/trans from the front, as Junbug indicated, it's the length not so much the lifting capacity. This is even more important if the body is on.

If you can install from the side you don't need the same extended reach. The distance you need is from the closest you can get the hoist to the crosscar middle or just behind the engine mounts from the front.

Most motor/trans combos are generally under 1,000#, probably less than 800#

Jim

[Dgc333]

FWIW, all engine hoists that have a boom that extends has the rating drop as you extend it. The one I have is rated for 2 tons when the boom is in its shortest position. It has four positions each one reduces the rating by 500 lbs, fully extended it is only rated for 500 lbs. Over the years when installing or removing engines or putting them in or removing from my truck I have it set to the 1000 lb position.

[Jeff Kleiner]

Mine also has telescoping legs rather than fixed length. This allows you to move them out beyond the boom so that when it is extended for a longer reach you don't lose capacity.

https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=195149&d=1706623665

https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=195148&d=1706623238

Jeff

[cc2Arider]

Nice lift hoist :)

I'm really impressed by the care you take when installing; i.e., that THICK corrugated cardboard -- Nice :cool:

I just got the HoBo 2T unit. Seemed to work well enough, but then I also used my other 1T unit to lift the back end of the chassis...

Craig C

[Jeff Kleiner]

Nice lift hoist :)

I'm really impressed by the care you take when installing; i.e., that THICK corrugated cardboard -- Nice :cool:

I just got the HoBo 2T unit. Seemed to work well enough, but then I also used my other 1T unit to lift the back end of the chassis...

Craig C

Things you do when you work alone Craig ;)

Jeff

[dbo_texas]

I used a 2-ton, but the guy that I got my kit from used a 1.5 ton harbor freight hoist. I just didn't feel super safe with the 1.5T because when the boom arm is extended, it's right at the weight limit of the trans + engine (Coyote Gen2). With the 2T hoist, it was no problem. You might see if someone in your neighborhood has one - I posted on my local neighborhood Facebook group and sure enough, I had a neighbor with a 2T hoist just sitting in his garage. He let me borrow it and keep it for the last 4 months while my engine was out. You might get lucky like me...

I started with the lift coming in from the front, but from the side might also work better. My garage door got in the way so had to rotate the drivetrain to get it over the frame rail.


https://youtu.be/fT1cMPw6HZk?si=0ZaCTOsTMelfQKYc

[drewr]

I used a 1.5 ton from Harbor Freight, but it took 3 of us monkeying around to keep it stable and to get the engine in my coupe. I also was hoisting an small block Ford, so don't know the weight difference.

[egchewy79]

I used a 1T HF lift for my SBF. main issue was the reach on the boom even fully extended. We had one guy standing on the back of the lift to keep it from tipping. not the smartest of options but we got er done. Get a 2T to be safe w/ the increased size of the coyote.

[J R Jones]

Three physical characteristics to consider:
Yield strength of the boom
Load proximity behind the extended leg/wheels
Lift capacity of the hydraulics.

A complexity in many engine installations, especially with the transmission attached, is the assembly pitch angle to get the tail shaft under the transmission tunnel while the harmonic balancer locates above the radiator saddle.
An engine load leveler provides the capability to pitch the assembly down and up as required:

https://www.amazon.com/YELLOW-JACKET-Leveler-Accessory-Adjustable/dp/B0CCJ4PGS2/ref=asc_df_B0CCJ4PGS2/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=675607606723&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=3743859985538988706&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9018934&hvtargid=pla-2218415021666&mcid=21177c317ac53a32ad59d3ad876c4bc5&th=1

Available everywhere.
jim

[nashuanuke]

good feedback everyone, I knew it was about the size, but this really helps to describe what about the size is important.

[Mat1asBEV&ICE]

Check Facebook marketplace. I bought my 2T Harbor Freight used for $200. I can definitely sell it for at least that when I'm done.

[i.e.427]

I know a 1-ton hoist is too small and every post I see recommends a 2 ton. My local shop can rent me a 1.5-ton hoist. Does anyone know is that's enough? Or do I need to find a 2 ton? I've got a Gen-3 Coyote if that matters.

While I'm at it, I got the engine from Mike Forte, well put together but no lifting hardware included. I'm thinking of springing for these, or is there an easier way: https://tdmotion.com/product/coyote-engine-lift-brackets/

A great discusion on engine hoists starts at the 7:25 minute mark:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YXiTExPWE8&t=8s

As far as the Coyote lifting brackets, see if one of the guys that ordered a Coyote from Factory Five can send you a set. Theirs work just perfect.

[Andrew Davis]

Installing my Coyote/Tremec, the small HF hoist was laboring. When you add any vertical acceleration and unknown engineering margins... Bought the two ton, used the small one to raise the rear of car for install. Hoist was cheaper than 16K replacement. Just an opinion.

[AC Bill]

Things you do when you work alone Craig ;)
Jeff

Isn't it time you take on an apprentice Jeff? The world will need somebody with the wealth of knowledge you have attained over the years. All those problems, big and small that you have addressed. What happens when you finally retire? :)

[Jeff Kleiner]

Isn't it time you take on an apprentice Jeff? The world will need somebody with the wealth of knowledge you have attained over the years. All those problems, big and small that you have addressed. What happens when you finally retire? :)

The problem with trying to bring someone in is that after they know enough to be dangerous they think they know all there is to know and they leave to go out on their own (and fail) so the “master’s” investment in time is lost. Sorry to sound like a cynic but my friends in the trades and myself have seen it too many times. The most promising young person I ever had was a friend’s daughter but she ultimately decided to take on a load of student loan debt and went to college, met a guy, quit school and started a family.

Jeff

[TTimmy]

I used the TDMotion brackets you referenced along with HF 2 ton lift and HF tilt bar to drop a coyote into my coupe. I opted to buy rather than rent since I used it multiple time for trial and final fits. Of course you should watch HF closely and buy when they go on sale.

[Mike.Bray]

I picked up a HF 1T hoist off of FB Marketplace for almost nothing. My wife and I were able to drop our SBF/TKX in using it with the beam extended all the way. It was a little challenging but we made it work. The biggest issue we had was the leveler I bought from Northern Tool, it was a huge struggle and basically junk.

https://www.imagecoast.com/images/MichaelBray1/20220826155512medium.jpg

https://www.imagecoast.com/images/MichaelBray1/20220827173948medium.jpg

Later I had to pull the engine out to replace the O-rings on the freeze plugs and I used the same 1T hoist but changed to this leveler (https://www.summitracing.com/parts/WMR-W41036). That was a world of difference, I was able to pull and reinstall the engine & trans by myself.

If I ever have to pull it again and now that the body is on the 1T hoist definitely will not work, I'll get a 2T model.

[k-roy]

Before you buy, check to see if somewhere close rents it. I ended up spending $30 for a weekend. I used it twice (a trial run to see where I could put things in engine bay, then the final placement). Total of $60, far less than what I would have spent, and I don't have to find room in my over crowded garage.

For the lifting plates for a coyote, I didn't like many of the options. The tdmotion should work. I ended up using these

https://tomsoffroad.com/parts/coyote-5.0l-engine-hoist-brackets?gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAiAq4KuBhA6EiwArMAw1ES7HnGW_2Xhv-8ulgsMdaZrGxqjqGqAKqtw38kQSsnu10pVaOfr1RoC6IwQAvD_ BwE

[Rebostar]

I've installed both FE and SBF with a 2t with no issues. I've used the costco 1.5t to install the turbine engine on an AS350 A-Star. Weighs about the same as a SBF with trans. Either should work. Get the bigger one if you can get one. Whichever one you get. make sure to get the four point load leveler. An absolute must when installing an engine with trans attached.
good luck
Rebostar