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BrewCityCobra
12-31-2023, 11:00 PM
So a quick question to the group on how to best install the carpet on the inner wall of the drivers footwell. For people using slower curing adhesive (like Welwood), how are you cribbing the carpet so that it stays tight against the bends in the wall. I'm having trouble deciding if I should go with a faster-drying adhesive (like 3M 77) or if it is possible to use 2x4s and other cribbing to keep it tight in place while the Welwood cures overnight.

For a bit of context, I do have a vinyl pad incorporated into the carpet in that area so the carpet is a bit stiffer than normal.

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Any pictures/advice much appreciated.

Dave M
12-31-2023, 11:05 PM
If you are using the standard contact cement and use it per the instructions you shouldn’t need anything to hold it. And if you're not using contact cement you should. I used the stronger 3M 99 on my carpet and vinyl and had no issues then or since. Cars been with me for 17 years now.

JJK
01-01-2024, 02:06 AM
I used a longer curing outdoor carpet cement to be able to position the carpet a bit easier instead of the contact cement which does not allow much adjustment once the parts are mated. I used a lot of bricks, wood, random heavy objects, and clamps to hold down the carpet where needed. All turned out great. Upon suggestions from others, I cut the bottom of the footbox carpet into a separate piece in case I ever need to replace them, also made assembly a bit easier.

egchewy79
01-01-2024, 10:27 AM
I used outdoor carpet cement and slathered it on both surfaces with a notched trowel, almost like doing tile work. Then put some pressure on the carpet in the notched areas until it starts to set. The pic you’re showing has an additional pad sewn on to protect the carpet from excessive wear which likely furthers frustrations trying to crease the carpet in that location

BEAR-AvHistory
01-02-2024, 11:50 AM
Used 3M99 & pressed it in place by hand.

BrewCityCobra
01-02-2024, 09:19 PM
Appreciate all the input. Sounds like this particular panel will probably require the 3m 99. I like the usability of the Weldwood and will likely continue to use it for all of the other panels (to give me the ability to move things around a bit) but I'm thinking the solid connection of the contact cement is the best bet to make sure that the carpet stays tight against the inner wall. Just don't want any sloppiness there given how tight that area is already.

Lidodrip
01-02-2024, 10:45 PM
I used Weldwood Outdoor Carpet Adhesive and did not have any difficulty getting good adhesion to the inner wall (without using any cribbing). I found it helpful to let the Weldwood to start to get tacky (as recommended in the instructions), before installing the carpet.

James

Dave M
01-02-2024, 11:04 PM
Agree that’s not the easiest place to work but if you test fit before gluing and get the piece trimmed just right you shouldn’t have to much trouble. After glue is set up I leaned some sticks against the panel to hold the carpet away while positioning it at the top. Then move the sticks down as you press the carpet into place.

Its Bruce
01-03-2024, 08:51 AM
I used Weldwood Outdoor Carpet Adhesive and did not have any difficulty getting good adhesion to the inner wall (without using any cribbing). I found it helpful to let the Weldwood to start to get tacky (as recommended in the instructions), before installing the carpet.

James

This is exactly what I did. I sat there for a few minutes, after placing the carpet, with a hand roller over the entire panel.

BrewCityCobra
01-03-2024, 10:52 AM
This is exactly what I did. I sat there for a few minutes, after placing the carpet, with a hand roller over the entire panel.

This is encouraging to hear. Maybe I'm underestimating the Weldwood a bit. I'd prefer to use the same adhesive throughout if possible so maybe it is worth a try.

That vinyl panel I put in does make everything a bit stiffer but not too bad, so maybe it will do the trick.

Ted G
01-03-2024, 11:11 AM
I used 3M 77 and it worked perfect in that area. Not sure how much go karting you have been doing, but I wish I would have put some plastic in that area too as the carpet is wearing a bit already from my foot. Also, the corner where that pane bends is where my calf touches... that area also is starting to wear.

Ted

AC Bill
01-03-2024, 05:28 PM
I used automotive grade black silicone It gives you time to shift the carpet around before drying so the seams line up good, and you can tuck the carpet in. It withstands heat, mind you there is an underlying layer of insulation. It has stood up perfect in over ten years use. No corners peeling up, air pockets, etc..

I riveted a thin plastic shoe slider to the side panel, after I carpeted it.

lewma
01-03-2024, 06:54 PM
I used standard Home Depot black silicone on all carpet in my MK4. It gives you some time to play around with fitment and has not failed me in 5 years