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Bill Elliott
08-31-2023, 10:40 PM
Just want to make sure I won't have any clearance issues before I button down these front brake lines.
Eastwood tool makes the flares super easy. Bending custom lines is another story. Luckily brake line isn't super expensive. First couple attempts were pretty bad, too bad you can't just straighten and start over.

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Paul made it look easy, he is obviously on a way different level than me.:rolleyes:

Junbug
08-31-2023, 10:51 PM
Hey Bill, Depending on what engine you’re putting in you may need have to move both your steering shaft and the brake lines, at least on the Drivers side. I put in a coyote and had to leave both sides of my front brake lines disconnected as well as the steering shaft moved completely out of the way. I’m sure others can give better advice based on what engine you’re putting in.

Bill Elliott
08-31-2023, 11:01 PM
It will be a 351/427 guess ill add that to my signature so people aren't guessing

Bill Elliott
08-31-2023, 11:13 PM
Hey Bill, Depending on what engine you’re putting in you may need have to move both your steering shaft and the brake lines, at least on the Drivers side. I put in a coyote and had to leave both sides of my front brake lines disconnected as well as the steering shaft moved completely out of the way. I’m sure others can give better advice based on what engine you’re putting in.

Yes, would like some input on that also , about whether or not I will have to remove any of that when stuffing the engine bay.

Alan_C
09-01-2023, 04:06 AM
Hand bending the brake lines often results in larger radius bends. Two options that you could try if you are not happy with your bends. First, you can take a 2x4 and drill a hole in it so that you can mount a extension to hold a socket. You can then use the socket to help bend the brake line. Or second I bought a brake line bending tool from Eastwood. Their bender allows you to make a 180 degree bend if needed.
https://www.eastwood.com/triple-head-180-degree-tubing-bender-3-16-3-8-in.html
Using the Eastwood bender, I made a lot of lines using the Cunifer Nickel Copper brake lines. I incorporated ABS on my build with a lot of small brake lines needed as shown below.

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CraigS
09-01-2023, 07:42 AM
First the brake lines as is will not be a problem w/ a 351W based engine. Look at engine pics and you see that the crank pulley is behind the 4in main frame cross tube. Another way to clean this up though depends on your flexible hose lengths and how they attach to your calipers. Move the brake line bracket from the side of the 3/4x3/4 tube to the top so it hangs out on the wheel side. This allows all your metal tubing to be kept on top of the 3/4x3/4.
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Mike.Bray
09-01-2023, 09:55 AM
Rotate that Tee fitting on the driver's side 90 degrees and you can feed your lines straight in and out. Might need a different fitting but it will be worth the extra $2.

Use a 90 degree fitting on the PS side to keep everything tighter.

Bill Elliott
09-01-2023, 10:19 AM
Rotate that Tee fitting on the driver's side 90 degrees and you can feed your lines straight in and out. Might need a different fitting but it will be worth the extra $2.

Use a 90 degree fitting on the PS side to keep everything tighter.
What are those fittings called so I can look for some.

Bill Elliott
09-01-2023, 10:36 AM
What are those fittings called so I can look for some.

Let me rephrase that. I know the 2 female ends are 3/16 inverted flares , what about the male end that screws into adapter for flex line. I am on my phone during breaks at work trying to do this.

Mike.Bray
09-01-2023, 10:37 AM
What are those fittings called so I can look for some.

I honestly don't know what they are formally called, I use AN fittings. They're automotive 45 degree fittings, I would start with NAPA or any good auto parts store.

facultyofmusic
09-01-2023, 02:12 PM
Looks like you're going for power steering? The power-steering send and return lines will run pretty close to your brake lines in front of the X-member. It's doable, but Mark from Breeze would tell you to avoid that early while you can because the AN hose-ends will be bigger than you'd expect and with the brake lines there it maybe a PITA to install.

Bill Elliott
09-01-2023, 06:01 PM
Looks like you're going for power steering? The power-steering send and return lines will run pretty close to your brake lines in front of the X-member. It's doable, but Mark from Breeze would tell you to avoid that early while you can because the AN hose-ends will be bigger than you'd expect and with the brake lines there it maybe a PITA to install.

thanks for the heads up on the PS lines. I'm gonna follow Mike's advice and clean it up.

Bill Elliott
09-01-2023, 06:03 PM
I honestly don't know what they are formally called, I use AN fittings. They're automotive 45 degree fittings, I would start with NAPA or any good auto parts store.

Went to Napa and Autozone, both complete failures. These places have a minimal amount of stuff for custom work. Gonna do my search online (truly only source for custom parts).

Bill Elliott
09-01-2023, 07:15 PM
I honestly don't know what they are formally called, I use AN fittings. They're automotive 45 degree fittings, I would start with NAPA or any good auto parts store.

No luck with finding the right fittings, looks like I will just try and get some cleaner bends.

rich grsc
09-02-2023, 08:01 AM
I would get a tube bender, and redo those lines. The loops are too large, sticking too far into the engine compartment. JMO

Bill Elliott
09-02-2023, 09:21 AM
I would get a tube bender, and redo those lines. The loops are too large, sticking too far into the engine compartment. JMO

Will do, always appreciate your input.

rich grsc
09-02-2023, 12:32 PM
Bill, I know it's extra work, but I think you will be happier with the results.

Bill Elliott
09-02-2023, 01:32 PM
yep, and the line is cheap enough, might as well get it right or better

Bill Elliott
09-06-2023, 10:25 PM
Thanks to everyone that gave advice on the brake lines. I am much happier with the new results.

here is before and after. The Ridgid lever type flaring tool made all the difference

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rich grsc
09-07-2023, 08:00 AM
Looks good Bill.

BrewCityCobra
09-07-2023, 11:03 PM
Just want to make sure I won't have any clearance issues before I button down these front brake lines.
Eastwood tool makes the flares super easy. Bending custom lines is another story. Luckily brake line isn't super expensive. First couple attempts were pretty bad, too bad you can't just straighten and start over.

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Paul made it look easy, he is obviously on a way different level than me.:rolleyes:

Looks like you ran a similiar path that I did - I also have a small block (427W) and had no issues with clearance.

A few photos from my build thread can be found here: https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showthread.php?38979-The-Brew-City-Cobra-427W-IRS-Glove-Box-Fabrication-PT-2&p=454756&viewfull=1#post454756