Door Hinge Bracket Studs

[Terry D]

I am just curious if anyone has seen this before, where the studs are mounted too high in the door?
Mine are so high on the passenger door that the hinge bracket will have to be cut or the fibreglass on the door will have to be cut away.
Either way I think this is going to cause issues when aligning the doors when the body goes on.
Any feedback would be appreciated.

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[Jeff Kleiner]

Haven’t seen that before. Get in touch with FFR; they owe you a replacement door.

Jeff

[Terry D]

Thanks Jeff,
I did let them know and their suggestion was to take some of the fibreglass out of the door. I will contact them again and ask for a new door. Will post the result.

Terry

[Jeff Kleiner]

Thanks Jeff,
I did let them know and their suggestion was to take some of the fibreglass out of the door. I will contact them again and ask for a new door. Will post the result.

Terry

That’s not an acceptable solution. The triangular steel frame is too high in the door skin which will result in difficulty—-and possibly running out of hinge adjustment range—-when you attempt to fit that door to the body.

Jeff

[j.miller]

20 years and 700 roadsters and I have not seen that one.... I guess now I can die ! WoooHooo !....but I digress , really not sure which direction to send you in on that one other then to send some pics to FFR and plead your case. ...Da Bat

[Terry D]

Thanks guys,
I talked to Dave S today and am going to cut some of the bracket away so it sits flush. There should be enough adjustment hopefully, if not they will send me another door. Will have to see when I mount the body. Again thanks for the input.

Terry

[AC Bill]

If the steel frame in the door is out of whack, wouldn't there also possibly be an issue with the latch end, and the bottom hinge?

[GoDadGo]

I talked to Dave S today and am going to cut some of the bracket away so it sits flush.

Was the fellow you spoke to the same Dave S in the video link below?

https://youtu.be/6ckgfkPU8Ss

Please Joe, Say It Aint So, I Mean Terry D!

[Blitzboy54]

I wouldn't agree to shaving the bracket. I just wouldn't, I would want a new door. I'm honestly surprised they are pushing back.

[rich grsc]

I don't see how you will have enough adjustment at the frame mount for the hinge if you grind off the top of the bracket? I'd want a replacement for that door.

[Mike.Bray]

No way I would agree to start cutting away on my (expensive) car for someone else mistake. That's a pretty disappointing suggestion from FFR.

[Dave Smith]

I wasnt "pushing back" not at all! Yes I spoke to Terry myself and the door frame on this was welded too high. We checked all the cars in the building and haven't seen this one before!.. Nate and Dan, Myself and the boys in chassis assembly looked at the photos and doors in production and with Terry's door the steel studs and inner door frame was welded too high (estimate 5/16" too high) so the plate that mounts it flush to the fiberglass door hits the radius of the door liner at the break. It really is a very small matter as the door hinge has plenty of vertical travel to make up for the welding location of the lugs.

What I said to Terry on my phone from the shop floor was, "If it was me, I'd grind the leading edge of the 3/16" door plate down on a grinder until the plate was flush and go on with my life building the car (the door hinge has waayy more adjustability up, down, in and out to accommodate that small mod) I also said that if that wasn't an easy fix, that I would HAPPILY SEND HIM A NEW DOOR". I think my words were, "you have my cell phone and I will make sure your car is right no matter what".

The thing is that we are just doing so well after soo much hardship. Two kits that I delivered yesterday had literally no backordered parts (less than 10 and no critical), the QC process an new operating system is finally paying off. Kits and parts deliveries have never been more accurate, inventory levels have come up and suppliers are delivering, the crew has NEVER been better ever and fellowship is the norm here and soo nice to see.. There will always be challenges in a business that is integrated on so many levels with soo many parts. Right now soft tops from Rod Tops look grim but I am running out of similar soap operas and forest fires on parts. I am really enjoying 2023 and look forward t soo much good news and continuing progress.

I will leave this post where I left it with Terry and if he wants a new door, I will send him one. He has my cell phone number.

[Dave Smith]

The frame plate mounts to a hinge that has a TON of vertical adjustment and plenty of room. But after reading these posts I'll just send him a new door.

[rich grsc]

Dave is ALWAYS a stand up guy, and makes things right. :D

[DW66]

I believe Dave does the best that he can for the times that we live in. That's really all you can ask from someone.

[Terry D]

First off, let me say thanks for all the input on this subject, I appreciate the thoughts on this, as this is my first build, and I value the ideas and solutions this forum has offer.
Dave is correct and was not pushing back, his folks were offering possible solutions, and like all ideas, some are good, and some not so good. As a few people stated, he is a stand up guy, and has come through a few times for me, and I am sure for others. I have to give him kudos for updating his company during an unpredictable time of supply and Pandemic challenges, although being a Canadian order and at the time of the change over of the system it did have some issues, but they got resolved thanks to Madison and the rest of Dave's team. Well Done
Dave is sending me a new door, so that should put the hinge problem to rest, although it would be interesting to see if the hinge can be cut down and still have room for adjustment and have no issues with the door latch for future reference.

thanks again everyone

Terry

[CABulldog]

This thread made me think about my doors again. My studs are only just under 1/2 an inch from the fiberglass and even when taking them off the frame when delivered they look short. Looking at the pictures here they seem much closer to an inch to me. I wonder why mine are so short, maybe I should call FF as well.

[BRRT]

Dave Smith is a good dude. Glad I decided on purchasing a Factory Five.

[AC Bill]

It's great that Dave chose to send you a new door to resolve this issue after all. :)

Door alignment can be difficult enough even as is, without further potential obstacles.

[Terry D]

Agree Bill, 1 less thing to wrestle with when it comes time..

[GFX2043mtu]

This kind of support in the aftermarket is almost unheard of. It truly shows how good the company is run. This is why I got a car from Dave. I met him with my family at Factory Five while on vacation. I was there just after the summit racing CEO car arrived and he walked in with blue jeans and a leather coat. He didn’t hesitate to shake my hand introduce himself. He immediately asked about my family and truly cared. That 2 minute interaction right there sold a car. I could have gotten a superformance car and hoped for good customer service if I had a problem or I could get a kit from him. He put my mind at ease about getting a kit over a finished car. Every interaction with FFR has been great. I hope FFR always stays this way. Now if they could just do a GT40. I keep eyeballing the one Fran at RCR makes to add to the stable.