gtrag94
08-31-2022, 12:39 PM
Hi all!
I've had an FFR Daytona Coupe poster on my wall for many years now and watched the promo DVD several times throughout those years with my boys. They're finally getting old enough to help and appreciate and I'm in a place to be able to build one of these amazing looking/sounding/performing things! I've had some fun Fords (Mustang GT, SHO, Turbo Coupe) and an M5 and some 911s but I always gravitate back to the more raw and loud Mustang than the rest. The Daytona Coupe ought to be properly awe-inspiring/obnoxious! :) I suppose I needed a kick in the pants to start this build because after talking about it with my neighbor (neilkuy) over the last couple of months, he surprised me by pulling the trigger himself! He's a great resource for info and fabrication know how, which I admittedly am not. I've worked on cars for 20+ years and ran a very busy shop for several years so I'm fully comfortable working on production cars so this will be a neat/scary change. I've only seen one in person (didn't get to sit in it or hear it) so it totally makes sense to plop some cash down to build one, right? I'm pretty average build and decently flexible so not worried about fitting in it at least.
I put in my order on 8/30/22 which is about 2 weeks behind neilkuy's.
Complete Kit
Powedercoating
GPS gauges
302/351W mounts
302 headers
Manual Clutch
31 spline for Tremec TKX w/IRS
Body cut-outs
High back seats
Power steering kit
IRS
A/C - Heater-Defroster
Wipers
Carpet
Leather steering wheel
Side windows
Aero Vents
EFI In-Tank Fuel System
Double Adjustable KONIs for IRS
IRS center section, spindles, and hubs
Wilwoods front and rear (red calipers)
shipping by Stewart
I have a list of questions that I'd love help with. Much like neilkuy's car, I'm not a garage queen or track guy. It would be awesome to get in, drive anywhere (I understand a cross country road trip is not really smart/feasible), and park it. Reliable, looks amazing, reasonably comfortable (roof required in case of popup shower). Also looking in the 300-350 hp range because the power-to-weight would be more than enough.
ENGINE
The Blueprint 347 looks very interesting. I've priced donor engines but by the time you rebuild to get the same power, you're getting pretty close but without the trusted name and warranty. Resale is always on my mind but wouldn't be the plan for this build. In either case, I'd love to use Jim Inglese's stack fuel injection for the best of all worlds (looks and reliability). No real experience with carburetors but I'm a little afraid of no starts/messing around with it to get it to get home after work, etc.
TRANSMISSION
I always thought I wanted a 6 speed because that was the hot thing growing up but I think I'm realizing that 5 speeds is enough for a light car. TKX just seems to make sense over a T5 because the T5 would be at it's limit and the TKO is similar to the TKX but without the improvements. With manual brakes, doesn't it make sense to use a manual clutch? Otherwise you have one very low effort pedal and one very high? Why not make them both higher effort? My Mustang had a manual clutch and was fine but the 911 has a hydraulic and is nice, just not the same experience (and it seems this car's experience can handle the unrefined nature).
BRAKES AND SUSPENSION
From what I've read, the KONIs that come with it are valved for street. Probably worth leaving alone and not doing double adjustable but may be a requirement for track-focused resale? Also, are there any benefits to them otherwise (such as setting ride height on the car vs having to take them off, etc)? As you can tell, I've never adjusted coilovers. :)
I hear the Wilwoods are worth it, even though they're crazy expensive. It seems that the Complete Kit assumes you'll use them because of the pedal assembly/master cylinders? Being my first build, I'm trying to keep things as simple as possible and not have to re-create the wheel/do a ton of modifications to cobble something together to work. As a general rule in life, I'm not a fan of adapters and enjoy cleanly-designed, purpose-built things. :)
OTHERS
Gauges - the FFR GPS gauge option look like Speedhut but not quite? They're not reverse read like Speedhut has on their website for this application but they do have plenty of range (180 mph and 8k tach). Do others still just decline the gauges and buy their own instead of the FFR version?
Battery cutoff - I've heard don't do for fuel injection because then it has to relearn adaptations and driveability will suffer. I'm quite used to having a maintainer plugged in for infrequently used cars and not an issue. Any other reason to have a battery cutoff? Safety (even if just for street/no track use)?
The Type 65 forum has been bookmarked and has been logging more screen time lately and I know there's much more to come. Thanks in advance for this whole community and providing the help we all need to build our dreams!
I've had an FFR Daytona Coupe poster on my wall for many years now and watched the promo DVD several times throughout those years with my boys. They're finally getting old enough to help and appreciate and I'm in a place to be able to build one of these amazing looking/sounding/performing things! I've had some fun Fords (Mustang GT, SHO, Turbo Coupe) and an M5 and some 911s but I always gravitate back to the more raw and loud Mustang than the rest. The Daytona Coupe ought to be properly awe-inspiring/obnoxious! :) I suppose I needed a kick in the pants to start this build because after talking about it with my neighbor (neilkuy) over the last couple of months, he surprised me by pulling the trigger himself! He's a great resource for info and fabrication know how, which I admittedly am not. I've worked on cars for 20+ years and ran a very busy shop for several years so I'm fully comfortable working on production cars so this will be a neat/scary change. I've only seen one in person (didn't get to sit in it or hear it) so it totally makes sense to plop some cash down to build one, right? I'm pretty average build and decently flexible so not worried about fitting in it at least.
I put in my order on 8/30/22 which is about 2 weeks behind neilkuy's.
Complete Kit
Powedercoating
GPS gauges
302/351W mounts
302 headers
Manual Clutch
31 spline for Tremec TKX w/IRS
Body cut-outs
High back seats
Power steering kit
IRS
A/C - Heater-Defroster
Wipers
Carpet
Leather steering wheel
Side windows
Aero Vents
EFI In-Tank Fuel System
Double Adjustable KONIs for IRS
IRS center section, spindles, and hubs
Wilwoods front and rear (red calipers)
shipping by Stewart
I have a list of questions that I'd love help with. Much like neilkuy's car, I'm not a garage queen or track guy. It would be awesome to get in, drive anywhere (I understand a cross country road trip is not really smart/feasible), and park it. Reliable, looks amazing, reasonably comfortable (roof required in case of popup shower). Also looking in the 300-350 hp range because the power-to-weight would be more than enough.
ENGINE
The Blueprint 347 looks very interesting. I've priced donor engines but by the time you rebuild to get the same power, you're getting pretty close but without the trusted name and warranty. Resale is always on my mind but wouldn't be the plan for this build. In either case, I'd love to use Jim Inglese's stack fuel injection for the best of all worlds (looks and reliability). No real experience with carburetors but I'm a little afraid of no starts/messing around with it to get it to get home after work, etc.
TRANSMISSION
I always thought I wanted a 6 speed because that was the hot thing growing up but I think I'm realizing that 5 speeds is enough for a light car. TKX just seems to make sense over a T5 because the T5 would be at it's limit and the TKO is similar to the TKX but without the improvements. With manual brakes, doesn't it make sense to use a manual clutch? Otherwise you have one very low effort pedal and one very high? Why not make them both higher effort? My Mustang had a manual clutch and was fine but the 911 has a hydraulic and is nice, just not the same experience (and it seems this car's experience can handle the unrefined nature).
BRAKES AND SUSPENSION
From what I've read, the KONIs that come with it are valved for street. Probably worth leaving alone and not doing double adjustable but may be a requirement for track-focused resale? Also, are there any benefits to them otherwise (such as setting ride height on the car vs having to take them off, etc)? As you can tell, I've never adjusted coilovers. :)
I hear the Wilwoods are worth it, even though they're crazy expensive. It seems that the Complete Kit assumes you'll use them because of the pedal assembly/master cylinders? Being my first build, I'm trying to keep things as simple as possible and not have to re-create the wheel/do a ton of modifications to cobble something together to work. As a general rule in life, I'm not a fan of adapters and enjoy cleanly-designed, purpose-built things. :)
OTHERS
Gauges - the FFR GPS gauge option look like Speedhut but not quite? They're not reverse read like Speedhut has on their website for this application but they do have plenty of range (180 mph and 8k tach). Do others still just decline the gauges and buy their own instead of the FFR version?
Battery cutoff - I've heard don't do for fuel injection because then it has to relearn adaptations and driveability will suffer. I'm quite used to having a maintainer plugged in for infrequently used cars and not an issue. Any other reason to have a battery cutoff? Safety (even if just for street/no track use)?
The Type 65 forum has been bookmarked and has been logging more screen time lately and I know there's much more to come. Thanks in advance for this whole community and providing the help we all need to build our dreams!