View Full Version : Would this electric power steering rack work for a GTM?
rev2xs
12-01-2011, 11:31 AM
06-10 Suzuki Swift OEM Steering Rack Power electric | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/06-10-Suzuki-Swift-OEM-Steering-Rack-Power-electric-/330594759721?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr&hash=item4cf8fbb429)
Hey guys,
Just wanted to get your opinions on this power steering rack. Its from a late Suzuki Swift. Has anyone tried to use an electric rack from a Swift before? If not, which electric racks can be used? Meaning, bolt straight in, not counting electrical work..
Brian Z
12-01-2011, 04:25 PM
GTM Power Steering Setups
The pump is an electric power steering pump from a 1985-1991 Subaru XT. Some places try to sell you the mechanical pump, which is of no use to the GTM. You can not purchase these new, they are only used, I believe. The rack is from a 1987-1993 Mustang. From there, you’ll need to use a relay to provide power to the pump when the car is running. Then, you’ll need a hydraulic shop to make lines from the pump to the rack. The return is low pressure so a hose and hose clamps will suffice.
Kalstar
12-01-2011, 07:48 PM
I know nothing on this subjust so take it for what it is worth....What about the electric power steering from the Saturn Ion, I was very suprised to find out a 02 Saturn had steer by wire electric steering.
kabacj
12-02-2011, 06:17 AM
You would need to modify the frame to mount the rack. You would need to verify the tie rod length and how it would impact steering geometry. That alone could kill the solution. Figure out how to mount the end links to the corvette uprights. You would need to devise a way to tie in the kit steering linkage. Then you have steering rate lock to lock to consider. Is it optimal?
First question is why are you doing this. If its for the challenge ok fine. This will sure be a challenge. If its to save money this will be way more expensive in the long run then using the two tested solutions. Either the mr2 or Subaru pump and mustang rack.
Since we don't have enough information to evaluate the solution i don't know if will work. Would I try it if you gave me 1000 bucks to install it on my car? Never
hope that helps
John
LS MAN
12-02-2011, 10:51 AM
The big problem is the electronic controller. EPS systems get data form the PCM to control the assist rate.
The 06 & up Suzuki is not compatible with the GM PCM, as it uses CAN-BUS data transfer.
crash
12-05-2011, 12:08 PM
The tested solution is out there, but www.myraceshop.com is working on a package kit to put power steering on both a GTM as well as anything else that runs the Ford Mustang GT rack. :)
skullandbones
12-05-2011, 12:51 PM
Crash,
I was checking out your web site and just wondered if this controller will always be a prototype and "race only" or will there be some point at which it can be considered for street use. I know you guys want to avoid any liability issues but maybe this is like any other application where you rely on the expertise of the installer to make sure it is done correctly and not the prototype nature of the product that is an issue. Thanks, WEK.
crash
12-05-2011, 01:10 PM
This product is being refined, and I have been doing quite a few improvements. I have done two revisions to the board layout, as far as electronics, in the last couple months or so. As I have always said, because this was an item that was essentially designed and built by the use of FFR forums, I will always try to offer the "raw" form of the product to GTM builders. At the same time, I think it is an absolutely fantastic product that can be used on many different applications. As such I am refining and packaging the unit along with other components (rack, pump) so that people can purchase a "plug and play" system.
As far as I can tell, however, at this point, and for the forseeable future, this is a USE AT YOUR OWN RISK, FOR OFF ROAD USE ONLY type of thing. It uses approved components for much of the hardware, and there have been some safety considerations made in the software and hardware designs, but, again, at this point, it is not a million mile tested, approved product, and as such is sold as a USE AT YOUR OWN RISK item.
skullandbones
12-05-2011, 01:10 PM
Apologies! was not intending on highjacking thread (just curious). Thanks, WEK.
crash
12-05-2011, 01:13 PM
Wasn't trying to hijack either. Just pointing out an option and possibly a future option that may soon be available before someone goes down a path they may regret.
I actuallly feel a true electric power steering unit would be the ticket, but, at this point anyway, they are WAY too expensive to deal with.
Steve91T
12-08-2011, 08:00 PM
I have owned and tracked a couple of 2nd gen MR2's. I absolutely love the electric PS on the MR2. It's variable. It decreases it's assist as speed builds until about 60 MPH where it completely turns off.