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MikeHolt
07-17-2022, 03:12 PM
Had the car on the road since ‘04. Initially bone stock. Then went to Mass-Flo and now Pro-M.

5.0
E-cam
Aluminum Heads
30lb injectors

It’s been running pretty good. Past couple of seasons it started randomly throwing 2195/2197 codes. Last fall, it stumbled a bit and has been regularly throwing those codes. Otherwise runs ok, though I can smell it running rich.

Data log suggests the same. But, me trying to interpret fuel injection data is like a pig looking at a watch.

In trying to diagnose this, it came up that the cooling fan activation via the PCM has never worked (I run it off a manual switch). So, the first thing was…check grounds. I had the Neg cable and PCM ground to the back of the intake. Was told absolutely not, gotta go to the block. So, the only ground related to the block that the Neg cable can reach is one of the bell housing bolts…not good enough so I ran a bolt through the front side of one (just above clutch linkage) so the grounds contact the block. Mind you Neg cable and PCM ground both go to this spot.

NOW, I get a check engine light that comes on dimly (with what looks like a faint pulse) but no codes. Additionally, it didn’t come on until car got to about 80C. I would think if it was wiring related, it would have been almost immediate.

My question(s)
(assuming your battery is in the rear)

Where do you guys have your Neg grounds running to on the block?

Is Anyone running the Pro-M system?

Anyone familiar with 2195/2197 codes?

Thanks!

Papa
07-17-2022, 03:29 PM
I'm not familiar with the Pro-M system, but it looks like both of the codes you mentioned are related to the O2 sensor. Can you data log the sensor data?

MikeHolt
07-17-2022, 03:46 PM
I’ll try to upload what I pulled from a couple of weeks ago.

Until I get this check engine light sorted, I don’t want to drive it. Weird that it’s not throwing any codes!

MikeHolt
07-18-2022, 12:35 PM
What file extensions will the site accept? Tried to upload both an excel file and an open office version and it wouldn’t take it.

MikeHolt
08-05-2022, 08:19 AM
Finally managed to get a snippet of a data log graphed.

This is a short drive to the end of my street with the car at temp.
The data is the Bank 1 UEGO overlayed on MAF Volts vs Bank 2 UEGO overlayed on MAF Volts.
You can see the MAF respond. The rises are going down my driveway, then going thru the gears, turning around and returning through the gears.
Note Bank 1 stayed at about .5 until ~25 secs in, then spiked and flatlined.
Bank 2 chased the MAF data.

I’m going to swap sensors side to side and see if the data follows. But, what’s confusing is the codes (2195 & 2197) are reflective of both sides pegging.

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