Jeff33Ford HotRod Build - Fitting Trunk......

[Jeff33Ford]

The day finally came!! The Hot Rod is home. Thought I would at least start the build thread. While not near a proficient as others on this board with words I will at least show progress. Carl Emery from Bando 11 Racing and Transport was awesome with the delivery.

50026 - Complete Base kit
34575 - Powder coated chassis
33462 - Installing Ford 289/302/351W Engine
- Installing Automatic Transmission: (Default configuration)
34050 - 28 spline driveshaft for 302/351W/4.6L/5.0L Coyote with 2015 IRS and T5, AOD, or Tremec 3550 Transmission
16325 - Black Vinyl Roadster Seats
34058 - 2015 Mustang-based Independent Rear Suspension Kit with KONI coil-overs, tubular lower control arms, and CV axles
15945 - 2015-2017 Mustang IRS Manual Driveshaft Adapter
34838 - '33 Grill with Hood and Engine Side Covers
34090 - Hot Rod Spread Rear Exit Exhaust – Polished stainless with 2 oval tips, located under tail lights
33651 - Upgrade: Tilt Steering Column, Paintable
33682 - Soft Top
33694 - Soft top curtains
34075 - Electric Power Assist Steering

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[Jeff33Ford]

Engine had already showed up a few weeks ago. I put the cart before the horse because of price increases. I also used the time before the car showed up to build up an AOD. So it is ready to go when ready to put it all together.
347. Dyno 415hp 451ftlbs

• Scat cast steel crank
• 4340 Forged connecting rods with ARP cap screws
• DSS Racing forged pistons E-8743-4040
• Moly rings
• Clevite main and rod bearings
• True roller double roller timing set
• Howards 222755-12 hydraulic roller camshaft - Lift: .533 / .544, Duration @ .050: 225 / 231, Centerline: 108
• Tri Star HP aluminum heads (speedmaster)
• 2.02 stainless intake valves
• 1.60 stainless exhaust valves
• HP valve springs
• Roller rocker arms Scorpion 10014209
• Hardened pushrods
• Weiand intake manifold
• MSD distributor - 8598
• Autolite spark plugs
• MSD spark plug wires
• Tri Star Polished aluminum valve covers
• Aluminum timing cover
• HD 28oz Harmonic Balancer
• Melling oil pump and screen

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[33fromSD]

And so it begins. Just seems like yesterday when mine arrived, hard to believe May will be a year since it's been registered and on the road.

Have fun, enjoy the build. Great group of folks on this site who can answer any questions you have.

We love pictures by the way. :D

Jim

[BadAsp427]

Awesome, So glad I could bring this to you. Inventory complete, you are ready to rock and roll. Enjoy the build, enjoy the ride... It was awesome to meet you and your wife. Sorry I was not able to hang out a bit longer, but I had a Mk4 to pickup in Chicago...

[Jeff33Ford]

Could not work on suspension yet because of so many POL parts. But still plenty to do. Worked on getting firewall placed since that seems to be pretty critical to everything else falling in place. All the sheet metal looked to be coming together nicely.
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[BadAsp427]

Looking good. I forget how bare they are at the beginning... It won't be that long and you will be looking at it and saying, wow... I did that...

[Jeff33Ford]

Got some powder coating done. Did some panels that do not show much to try out the oven we built over this last winter. It performed very well and ready to do parts that do show. Started cleaning up the front suspension parts that I do have so they can be powder coated. Getting some parts from FFR this week. Hopefully some that I can use to complete something.
Putting my son to work
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Putting parts in the oven.
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Parts back in the car to get an idea what they will look like.
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[JimLev]

Looks good. You should be wearing a mask while spraying the powder.

[BadAsp427]

Looking fantastic so far... Nice work.

[Jeff33Ford]

Powder coating the front suspension parts this weekend. Dark Green metallic. Don't have a lot to show for the work yet. Hopefully when some of the missing suspension parts show up it will look like I am accomplishing something.
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[Jeff33Ford]

Trying to keep working with what I got so far.
Powder coated and put down panel under gas tank
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Put floor panels down. Hopefully this does not affect anything I do not have done yet. I know it will mean I will be working under the car more in the future, but I do not see anything I should have done before this.
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Powder coated the firewall pieces and attached them
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Making some progress while waiting on suspension parts.

[Jeff33Ford]

Got some of the suspension together. Really tough going out and buying hardware you already paid for but still on POL but really wanted to get the front suspension together. I was moving right along but soon realized I has 2 pass side calibers. Of course did not see it until I had painted them. Hopefully I can get FFR to send me the drivers side. Trying to stay positive but everything I start I am missing parts on. I just feel like I am jumping from one thing to another and getting nothing done. Could not finish steering either, missing one of the shafts.
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[33fromSD]

FFR should replace it without issues. I got the wrong banjo bolts with my kit and stripped the threads on both caliper before I realized it when I bled the brakes and they were not sealing. The banjo bolts actually threaded in fairly easy with little resistance so it wasn't overly obvious at the time there was an issue until I had a leak and FFR worked with me to figure out I got the wrong bolts and replaced the calipers no problem.

FFR is really good to work with when it comes to customer support (or at least they were a year + ago when I was doing mine).

Jim

[Iziks]

So cool to see the start. My kit should be here in next month or so and I can’t wait. Will be fun to follow yours just ahead of mine so I know what I am getting into!

[Jeff33Ford]

FFR should replace it without issues. I got the wrong banjo bolts with my kit and stripped the threads on both caliper before I realized it when I bled the brakes and they were not sealing. The banjo bolts actually threaded in fairly easy with little resistance so it wasn't overly obvious at the time there was an issue until I had a leak and FFR worked with me to figure out I got the wrong bolts and replaced the calipers no problem.

FFR is really good to work with when it comes to customer support (or at least they were a year + ago when I was doing mine).

Jim

No dice. I was told since I painted the caliber I bought it and I had to buy the correct one if I wanted it. That is all I am going to say on the subject.

UPDATE: Mike from FFR contacted me and said he would make it right! I really did not complain greatly about this and they still took care of it. THANKS FFR

[33fromSD]

No dice. I was told since I painted the caliber I bought it and I had to buy the correct one if I wanted it. That is all I am going to say on the subject.

That sucks, oh well, it is what it is. Given that I would then upgrade to better brakes which is what I ended up doing. Go to RockAuto and order their p/n KC130126, price for everything is about $400; price was $235 when I bought them 1+ years ago but $400 still isn't bad for everything (calipers, rotors & pads). These are really good brakes, I love em and I know some others on here have upgrade too.

https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=6515511&jsn=2047

Jim

[RoadRacer]

That sucks, oh well, it is what it is. Given that I would then upgrade to better brakes which is what I end up doing. Go to RockAuto and order their p/n KC130126, price for everything is about $400; price was $235 when I bought them 1+ years ago but $400 still isn't bad for everything (calipers, rotors & pads). These are really good brakes, I love em and I know some others on here have upgrade too.

https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=6515511&jsn=2047

Jim

yeah I have the same brand on the rear - but without calipers. I used my junker rear calipers. https://www.summitracing.com/parts/PWR-K1303-26. The cheapest brake upgrade you'll ever do ;)

[Jeff33Ford]

Was able to get a lot done when I received some parts from FFR. Added a larger return line to the gas tank for the Holley Sniper. I am going to try and use the supply line provided and see what happens. Trying to avoid buying a new pickup if I do not need to.
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Got all the IRS parts on. That really felt great to get done. It was a bear putting the pig in. :rolleyes:
Got about 90% of the brake lines done and will hopefully get it bled and on the ground this week.
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[BadAsp427]

Looking good...

[Jeff33Ford]

It is on the ground. It rolls, steers and stops. Another mild stone crossed. Pushed it out in the sun for a good look
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Also finished making a bracket and mounting it for the sniper fuel pump.
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[narly1]

Also finished making a bracket and mounting it for the sniper fuel pump.
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How do you find mounting position to be in terms of accessibility & protection?

I want mine to be in a spot where I can easily get at it to swap in a new pump if need be.

[Jeff33Ford]

How do you find mounting position to be in terms of accessibility & protection?

I want mine to be in a spot where I can easily get at it to swap in a new pump if need be.

I think I would have no issue with the passenger rear wheel removed. I mounted it with 2 bolts through the frame so easy to remove as a unit if needed.

[Jeff33Ford]

Got the Engine and trans dropped in. Looking more and more like a car. At least this gives me more to work on now. I know FFR has no idea when the grill will show up. Just means it will be a while before first start.
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[Mastertech5]

I picked up mine on June 10th. No grill either but I only have the base kit at the moment. No storage for the rest. There are parts missing from almost every area of the build. Check my build thread for my progress. I managed to get some stuff done but kind of stuck now. FFR says end of August I should start seeing stiffness show up.
Your making good progress. Keep it up!

[Jeff33Ford]

Not much time lately to continue much work. Little things here and there but did get the exhaust wrapped and put the fuel lines in place.
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[narly1]

I think I would have no issue with the passenger rear wheel removed. I mounted it with 2 bolts through the frame so easy to remove as a unit if needed.

Revisiting this again, I like the idea that the pump and filters can be removed as a "pallet". I'm also thinking that you could additionally mount the whole thing on isolation mounts to quiet down the pump noise & vibration.

Earl

[33fromSD]

Revisiting this again, I like the idea that the pump and filters can be removed as a "pallet". I'm also thinking that you could additionally mount the whole thing on isolation mounts to quiet down the pump noise & vibration.

Earl

Isolation mounts or put some DEI Accoustic Boom mat under it and on the panel above it. Stuff is awesome.

Jim

[Jeff33Ford]

Revisiting this again, I like the idea that the pump and filters can be removed as a "pallet". I'm also thinking that you could additionally mount the whole thing on isolation mounts to quiet down the pump noise & vibration.

Earl


Isolation mounts our put some DEI Accoustic Boom mat under it and on the panel above it. Stuff is awesome.

Jim

Thx Guys. That is exactly what I did. I had something like boom mat laying around with a pretty thick rubber center. Hopefully it works. Just running a test it was not very loud and with the interior done it should be ok.

[TxMike64]

Could you share some pics of where you mounted the rear brake line brackets? Where the braided line connects to the hard line?

I have an idea where I want to mount mine, but wanted to see what others with the '15 IRS have done.

Thanks!

[Jeff33Ford]

Could you share some pics of where you mounted the rear brake line brackets? Where the braided line connects to the hard line?

I have an idea where I want to mount mine, but wanted to see what others with the '15 IRS have done.

Thanks!

Here a couple of pics. I will just use PTFE hose in the rear when I finish it. I plan to change the hoses to the carb to AN braided line when I finally order some. I use these to connect to the lines. Not as pretty as most of the guys on here but it will work.
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/fra-892006bl

And these to connect the hoses in the rear.
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/EAR-750166ERL

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[progmgr1]

Could you share some pics of where you mounted the rear brake line brackets? Where the braided line connects to the hard line?

I have an idea where I want to mount mine, but wanted to see what others with the '15 IRS have done.

Thanks!

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Sorry for the poor photos, but it was too hot to spend much time in the garage today. In any case, I riveted the brake line support brackets to the upper control arm mounting flange. This was a convenient location that allowed the flexible brake lines to move through the full range of travel without interference. The view in the photos is somewhat obscured by additional structure that I added, but I think you can get the idea. If it matters, I have the optional Wilwood brakes on a 2015 IRS in a Gen 1 Hot Rod.

HTH Keith HR #894

[TxMike64]

Sorry for the poor photos, but it was too hot to spend much time in the garage today. In any case, I riveted the brake line support brackets to the upper control arm mounting flange. This was a convenient location that allowed the flexible brake lines to move through the full range of travel without interference. The view in the photos is somewhat obscured by additional structure that I added, but I think you can get the idea. If it matters, I have the optional Wilwood brakes on a 2015 IRS in a Gen 1 Hot Rod.

HTH Keith HR #894

That's helpful, Thanks!

[Jeff33Ford]

Could you share some pics of where you mounted the rear brake line brackets? Where the braided line connects to the hard line?

I have an idea where I want to mount mine, but wanted to see what others with the '15 IRS have done.

Thanks!

DOH! I guess I should have read more carefully. I assumed since I posted about fuel lines that was what you wanted. But here are where I mounted mine and I mean brake lines this time. :)

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[Jeff33Ford]

FIRST START!! Even though I cannot run it very long and do a break in I had to make sure everything is wired correctly. After everything checked out fine I gave it a shot. This video is the results. I was amazed it started so quickly. I am going to love this EFI carb. I can tell already. If I could just get the grill from FFR I could mount the radiator and do a real break in run.

https://youtube.com/shorts/3d7-_BuOlLA?feature=share

[BadAsp427]

Congrats on the first start... and the build is looking great.

[Mastertech5]

Sounds great! EFI is the only way to go IMO. Much more reliable and no adjusting for altitude changes. Congrats. Feels good to know your work is worth it doesn't it.

[Jeff33Ford]

Finally feel like I am getting some stuff done. A lot of little things that do not seem to show a lot of results. But this weekend I was able to get a few visible things done. Finalized wiring to the back of the car and put the panels on for the last time.
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Hacked up the trans tunnel so me and my son's big feet will fit on the accelerator pedal.
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Also polishing of the grill I finally got from FFR. Then coating it will sharkhide.
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Not a bad weekend. My son seemed to like it. lol
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[Mastertech5]

Your son looks happy. Glad to see you have good progress. Build on!

[JimLev]

Nice job polishing the grill. What product did you use on the buffer pad?
I should have done this before I installed it.

[Jeff33Ford]

Nice job polishing the grill. What product did you use on the buffer pad?
I should have done this before I installed it.

Wet sanded with
400
then 800

Polished with a rough cut then a fine cut.
Not perfect but I am happy with the results

Also polished the front of the radiator since it shows through grill

I could easily see doing it on the car if you tape off real good around the grill. We only did areas that show.

EDIT:
Should have added I coated with Sharkhide when done

[JimLev]

Thanks Jeff. At the moment I have the engine side covers off and with the hood popped up it should be fairly easy to do.

[Jeff33Ford]

Did not like the plain chrome valve covers so I powdered coated them the same color as the firewall. I really like the way it turned out.
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I had some 3/4 tube laying around so I created a stand off mount for heater/defroster. I am bringing all the wiring up through the trans tunnel and this gives a place to bring all that wiring up behind the heater.
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[TxMike64]

I had some 3/4 tube laying around so I created a stand off mount for heater/defroster. I am bringing all the wiring up through the trans tunnel and this gives a place to bring all that wiring up behind the heater.
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I'm stealing this idea!

[Jeff33Ford]

Finished up a lot of the dash and engine wiring today. Funny thing to make a note of. I put the aluminum heat shielding on the starter wires. Well, if you get that to close to the to the starter connector you will have a short. I always make sure I have not real current draw when I hook up the battery and this time I did and that was what it was. Never had that happen before and I have used the stuff several times.

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[Jeff33Ford]

Finally got the radiator installed. Ran the engine up to temp for the first time. Then checked if the trans will go in gear. I must have did something right when I rebuilt the trans. Was a pretty good feeling to get to this step. Get a nice day may see if it will go down the driveway.


https://youtu.be/UO8llLcUUr8

[jayguy]

Congratulations! Such a good feeling!

[Mastertech5]

Doesn't it feel good when you know it works after a repair. Congrats!

[Brave Salmon]

You may need to relocate that coil so that the wire goes no where near that Sniper. The RFI will play havoc with the Snhiper ECU. have fun

[33fromSD]

Yup, I found this out the hard way when I installed the sniper & Hyper Spark system on my 70 challenger. I bundled the coil harness with the harness coming from the Sniper CD Box together to make things "look pretty" in the engine bay.....BIG MISTAKE, everything ran like crap.

Re-did the wiring separating the coil harness from everything else it ran awesome and has been flawless for the past 4 years.

Great system but definitely finiky on wiring.

Jim

[Jeff33Ford]

Worked on more wiring. Nothing exciting but built the body buck for a distraction this weekend.
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[Mastertech5]

That's looks great. I wish I had room for one.

[Jeff33Ford]

Heater all plumbed up and tested. Everything worked great. Working back half now. Getting rear exit exhaust all lined up and then put on rear panels. Getting close to starting body work.
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[Namrups]

Heater all plumbed up and tested. Everything worked great. Working back half now. Getting rear exit exhaust all lined up and then put on rear panels. Getting close to starting body work.
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Where did you get your air filter from? Having a clearance issue with mine in my coupe. Looks like that may be a solution. Thanks.

Scott

[Jeff33Ford]

Where did you get your air filter from? Having a clearance issue with mine in my coupe. Looks like that may be a solution. Thanks.

Scott

Cheapy from Amazon. Figured I would get a good filter to replace the paper one for it when I start driving the car. I powder coated it and cleaned the powder off of the ridges before baking it so it matches the valve covers. All my measurements say it will clear the hood no problem.

Amazon Filter (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00S75DGKQ?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details&th=1)

[Jeff33Ford]

Finally a weekend to do a little work on the Hot Rod. Used a loan a tool from AutoZone to pressure test the coolant system. Got it to hold 15lbs over night so I think I am good.
Built a battery box with inspiration from JimLev here (https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showthread.php?26821-JimLev-s-Build&p=344857&viewfull=1#post344857)
Used a cheap brake from HF and powder coated when done.
I really like the way it turned out and my son will 3D print a nice cover for it. We were thinking with the Ford script on it. But got time to think about it.
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[JimLev]

Nice job Jeff.
No reason to mount the battery in the trunk and take up what little space there is in there when there is all that vacant space below the trunk.

[Jeff33Ford]

Have not got a lot of time lately to spend on car. But put a few things together and took it down the road for a test. Son got first drive on the road then I took it down the road. So far so good. Over 90 degree day and ran cool. At least no major things popped up.

https://youtu.be/ppxPyfajRCM

[Mastertech5]

Nice job! Sounds good.

[JimLev]

Nice to see it moving under it’s own power.
Did I detect a little fishtailing on your return trip?

[33fromSD]

Great Job, awesome feeling to get to Go-Kart stage.

Just to set your expectations, I'm not sure about your plans but if your build includes the engine side panels and hood, it will run cool until you install those and then the engine bay turns into an oven, all good though if you take measures to dissipate the heat.

Jim

[Jeff33Ford]

Nice to see it moving under it’s own power.
Did I detect a little fishtailing on your return trip?

Had to check if the posi was working! That's my story and I am sticking to it.


Great Job, awesome feeling to get to Go-Kart stage.

Just to set your expectations, I'm not sure about your plans but if your build includes the engine side panels and hood, it will run cool until you install those and then the engine bay turns into an oven, all good though if you take measures to dissipate the heat.

Jim

Thanks Jim and I am using the hood and side panels. Looking at several ideas to vent the side panels. I really like your look. Buick pops in the mind right away.

[JimLev]

I’m using these 24” long louvered vents. I keep the engine fan running 100% of the time at 1/2 speed to push out the heat. Then when the radiator temp sensor gets hot enough the fan switches to full speed.
See post 523, 524.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showthread.php?26821-JimLev-s-Build/page14

[33fromSD]

Had to check if the posi was working! That's my story and I am sticking to it.



Thanks Jim and I am using the hood and side panels. Looking at several ideas to vent the side panels. I really like your look. Buick pops in the mind right away.
Thanks Jeff. Mine are exactly that, buick vent ports. I like the looks of them and with me only running a little 302 they do a sufficient job venting the heat.

Jim

[Jeff33Ford]

Have not made an update in awhile. Spending alot of time on the doors. More details here (https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showthread.php?47442-Yet-Another-Door-fit-post)
Worked on the nose cone as well. Had to extend like so many others had to do. But moving along slowly.
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[Mastertech5]

A piece of advice. Make sure your hood sides, if you have one, are sanded down to the "molded side trim" and set it on with the suggested bumpers. Mark your grill sides where it stops so you can see where the engine side covers will land when sitting on the nose cone. I had to cut my nose cone down the middle at the bottom and fiberglass it back together so I could get the sides down further on the grill. Do not trim the front of the side covers until you have the nose cone set. The geometry changes when you extend the nose cone.You can sand the sides of the hood down some more after to get your gaps. Ask me how I know.

[BadAsp427]

Congratulations on the build so far.

[Jeff33Ford]

Cannot believe it has been so long since I posted any updates. Life gets in the way sometimes. I have always kept up with all you guys and your progress. But hoping to put some time back into it and get it a least as far as titling the car. Took the body back off and added some more fiberglass in the thin areas and then applied bed liner.
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[Jeff33Ford]

A LONG ways to go but at least started putting down some body filler.
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[Jeff33Ford]

Got the body in pretty good shape. Next is to apply a coat of Evercoat G2. Then mount the body and start finish fitting the doors, trunk, and hood. Hopefully I am on the right track.
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[Jeff33Ford]

Applied the G2 and did some preliminary sanding. At first look I am pretty pleased with the results. I did not think I was that close. Of course when I check with a guide coat later I will see all kinds of surprises. Body is set in place and now I will work on fitting the trunk and go from there. Slow progress but getting there when I have time.
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[Jeff33Ford]

Had the same issue several others had. The trunk did not fit at the bottom. Stuck out about 3/4" on both sides. I used the same idea that bgardner did in this post (https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showthread.php?28807-Bobs-33-build&p=388229&viewfull=1#post388229).
I created a cardboard template then used ratchet straps to pull the trunk into the matching shape. Cut some maple butcher block I had left over into the correct shape to match the inside. Bolted it down with rivnuts and test fit. Fit great. Removed wood pieces and notched both sides. Reattached using Evercoat short fiber. Turned out rock solid. I am test fitting with all the rubber seals on. When I bolted the trunk back down I used ratchet straps to pull the lid down tight as pictured. It came out all lined up. The latch from FactoryFive really blows. I messed with it for a while. I think I am going to do what I have seen others do on the forum and just use a twist handle. Any recommendations?

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[JimLev]

For trunk I used the locking handle that Speedway sells.

[Jeff33Ford]

For trunk I used the locking handle that Speedway sells.

Thanks Jim. I see the following link in your thread. Just adding it here so it may help others searching as well
https://www.speedwaymotors.com/1932-34-Ford-Trunk-Lid-Locking-Handle-and-Latch-Kit,418663.html

[JimLev]

That’s it. Looks like the price has doubled since I bought it.

[BadAsp427]

Looking really good... Not much more before paint and cruise....