Narrower hood scoop

[JohnK]

Does anyone make a hood scoop (metal, fiberglass, ABS... doesn't matter) that is narrower than the FFR scoop? The reason I'm asking is because I like the look of slightly narrower stripes. Using the oil cooler opening as a reference, you can see in this photo that the stripes are only as wide as the flat upper and lower parts of the oil cooler opening, and don't extend out beyond the sides of oil cooler opening the way you see on some cars with wider stripes.

https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=165082&d=1649132659

However, the limiter on how narrow the stripes can be seems to be the width of the hood scoop. In measuring the FFR scoop, including the mounting flange it is wider than the oil cooler opening which would make narrow stripes impossible without having the edges of the stripes running over the hood scoop flange.

Does anyone here know if any of the available aftermarket scoops (Tony Branda, Finish Line, etc.) are narrower than the FFR scoop? I'm OK with the "riveted" scoop look (using SS button head screws) so I'm not necessarily looking to blend a fiberglass scoop into the hood but if eliminating the flange by blending a fiberglass scoop in is the only way to get narrow enough, I'm open to that option too.

Thoughts?

[Norm B]

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The stripes are tapered so you might be able to move both sides in to the edge of the oil cooler opening and still use the supplied hood scoop.

Norm

[JohnK]

Thanks Norm. That could work, but that seems like a pretty big taper to get from >15" at the scoop to <12" at the oil cooler opening. But to expand further on why I like narrower stripes, I'm also planning to do meatballs on the hood and trunk, and I like the look shown in the photo above where the meatball is wider than the stripes by a decent amount. If the stripes are ~16" wide at the scoop (regardless of whether they taper at the oil cooler), then the meatball will only be wider than the stripes by an inch or two.

[GoDadGo]

I have no idea how wide the Factory Scoop is compared to these because I gave mine away.
Not sure if any of these will work for you or not, but it can't hurt to look.

https://www.csxparts.com/c-210-hood.aspx

Good Luck & Happy Scoop Hunting!

[Jeff Kleiner]

John,
You're going opposite of what I've been up against a few times; that being the need for a larger scoop for air cleaner clearance!!!

Tony Branda has a couple of offerings:

This one is narrow, has no flange and is intended to bolt through an early mustang hood. Question is whether it's contour would work with the FFR hood or if it would have to be modified and bonded on:

https://store.cobranda.com/gthoscbonty1.html

This one is intended to be bonded on, or perhaps the flange could be cut down to an equal width and be bolted on with buttonheads. No sure of the width but suspect it may be the same as the one above plus the width of the flange:

https://store.cobranda.com/gthoscbonty.html

Also this which has a flange to bolt it on. It's abit narrower than the FFR scoop.

https://store.cobranda.com/accofihosc.html

You can get a Backdraft scoop through Iconic parts but I think they are the same width as FFR's. Shell Valley offers one that is larger than FFR's so no good there.

RE: nose meatball. I did this one not long ago. As I recall the circle is 19". If you deleted the outer pinstripes but left the main stripes the same width as they are it doesn't look like it would be drastically different than the photo you showed.

https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=165086&d=1649167156

Cheers,
Jeff

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[JohnK]

Thanks Jeff! Do you have any experience with either of the Finish Line/Cobra Performance hood scoops (fiberglass or aluminum)? They're both listed at 13-1/2" wide, which is considerably narrower than the FFR scoop. From an ease of installation standpoint, would you have a preference for one over the other? The aluminum one would look the most authentic.

[Jeff Kleiner]

No experience with either John.

Jeff

[Salty Chief 35]

Curious, as I haven’t bought my kit yet, couldn’t you cut the supplied ffr scoop and rebond / glass together at the width you like?
Respectfully,
Jeremie

[Jeff Kleiner]

Curious, as I haven’t bought my kit yet, couldn’t you cut the supplied ffr scoop and rebond / glass together at the width you like?
Respectfully,
Jeremie

It’s ABS plastic, not fiberglass. If one could find a ‘glass one then yes, it could be cut and resized.

Jeff

[Norm B]

Sorry for the thread drift but, how do the ABS plastic hood scoops stand up to the heat. My older fibreglass one reshaped itself slightly one day after a hard run and then being parked in the sun. Has a bit of a wave now.

Norm

[Jeff Kleiner]

Sorry for the thread drift but, how do the ABS plastic hood scoops stand up to the heat. My older fibreglass one reshaped itself slightly one day after a hard run and then being parked in the sun. Has a bit of a wave now.

Norm

Norm,
I’d guess that I have done 10 to 1 ABS to fiberglass scoops and to my knowledge none have deformed. They sure are a lot easier to work with than the ‘glass ones.

Jeff

[JohnK]

I thought I'd post a quick follow-up. I spoke with Ken Pike a few days ago and shared some photos of what I had in mind, and he was pretty confident that he could get the stripe and meatball proportions that I was looking for with the FFR scoop, so that's great to know. Nonetheless, never being one to leave well enough alone... curiosity ultimately got the best of me, and since Finish Line/Cobra Performance had an aluminum scoop in stock I decided to order it to compare to the FFR scoop. I thought I'd post a few photos here in case anyone else is curious.

Here's the FFR scoop side by side with the aluminum scoop. Ignoring the flanges (more on that in a moment) the aluminum scoop appears to be about an inch longer than the FFR scoop.

https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=165174&d=1649375586

Placed face to face, they appear to be almost exactly the same width.

https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=165173&d=1649375576

However, the flange on the aluminum scoop is considerably wider than the flange on the FFR scoop. If I compare the corner of the scoop itself, ignoring the difference in flange size, the aluminum scoop is roughly 3/4" narrower than the FFR scoop. So if I were to trim the flanges on the aluminum scoop to match those on the FFR scoop, I would have a scoop that's roughly 3/4" narrower.

https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=165170&d=1649375576

https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=165169&d=1649375576

The front view of the two scoops is also different, with the aluminum scoop having a different curve profile and a very thin (as you would expect) leading edge.

https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=165172&d=1649375576

The underside view shows that overall it's finished very nicely and that leading edge has a nice folded lip on it.

https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=165171&d=1649375576

Having the option to choose at this point, I will definitely go with the aluminum scoop. the 3/4" narrower profile will likely not make much (if any) of a difference in stripe layout. I was hoping to gain a little more than that. But it's something perhaps a bit unique and different and gives a touch of "authenticity" to the build. If I'd had the chance to compare the two side by side before ordering I likely would not have spent the money but now that I have I'm sure it'll be a nice touch. I'm also debating adding rivets to the leading edge of the hood, so those will also add another "authentic" detail.

I hope that helps someone, or at least you find it interesting.

-John

[Madfor67]

I used the same car as my inspiration. I didn’t like the “flat top” side profile shape of the FFR hood scoop. So, I bought Tony Brenda’s fiberglass hood scoop, which had a more original bubble/rounded side profile.

I also researched extensively on the racing stripes of that silver CSX cobra. As others have said, they are tapered from 7.5” cockpit to 6” on the nose with 1" separation between the stripes. My oil cooler stripes are slightly narrower at 5.5”. Trunk stripes are tapered from 7.5" to 7" (I like the thicker stripes in the back, so I went with 7" instead of 6.75" or 6.5" in the back).

Meatball diameter is 19".


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[mosh1999]

The Cobra Performance site list the aluminum scoops at 14" & 13.5" wide and their fiberglass scoop at 13.5". However the Finish Line site lists their fiberglass scoop at 13". But since they are the same site, its probably the same scoop.