Kirk Seats issue

[Lucky's]

Are they supposed to sit at a slight angle? Our client wanted the seat track for adjustment, but the only way for it to work is at an angle. the steering wheel and petals are offset slightly so the seat kind of lines up with them

[Jim1855]

Yup, The seats are angled. They sorta follow the transmission tunnel.
Jim

[Lucky's]

Yup, The seats are angled. They sorta follow the transmission tunnel.
Jim

Ok Thanks Jim.. I thought maybe so

[mikeinatlanta]

I recommend that you make sure the client is informed that the Kirkey seat is designed to be used with a brace in the back, so will be significantly compromised if mounted with tracks and no brace. Fine if that's what they want, so long as all are aware.

[Jeff Kleiner]

I recommend that you make sure the client is informed that the Kirkey seat is designed to be used with a brace in the back, so will be significantly compromised if mounted with tracks and no brace. Fine if that's what they want, so long as all are aware.

Precisely! The backs are pretty floppy without the rear mount, which is not compatible with tracks.

Jeff

[JohnK]

If your client wants that style of seat, consider the Ultrashield cobra bucket (https://www.ultrashieldrace.com/catalog/product/seats-hot-rod-cobra-bucket/cobra-bucket-seat/). I'm using them on my build, and they are very rigid and don't require any sort of rear mount.

[john42]

Precisely! The backs are pretty floppy without the rear mount, which is not compatible with tracks.

Jeff

I put tracks under my Kirkeys and made 2 aluminum spacers that I bolt in for the back support depending on if I am driving or my wife is driving. It's cumbersome but not terrible. Better then unbolting the seat completely to switch drivers.

[Jim1855]

I have the Kirkey 65 Series seats, their seat mounts, and Sparco seat tracks. Will build some form of adjustable back brace. No expectations that it will be real convenient.
From what I've seen the Ultrashield seats are very good.
Jim

[Straversi]

If your client wants that style of seat, consider the Ultrashield cobra bucket (https://www.ultrashieldrace.com/catalog/product/seats-hot-rod-cobra-bucket/cobra-bucket-seat/). I'm using them on my build, and they are very rigid and don't require any sort of rear mount.

Never heard of Ultra Shield before. They look nice. Much nicer upholstery that Kirkey. Please send photos of your car when you get them installed.
-Steve

[JohnK]

Yes, the stock upholstery is nicer than what comes on the Kirkey's but I did have them reupholstered in leather. They're not permanently installed yet, but you can see what they look like reupholstered in leather here (https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showthread.php?31167-Greek-Guys-Garage-Roadster-Build-9509-(glove-box-finished)&p=473565&viewfull=1#post473565).

[WIS89]

Mike, Jeff, John, and the others that have responded-

Can you tell me a little more about the brace that you are supposed to use on the low back Kirkey's?

I have a set, although not installed, and I had not been made aware of the need for a brace in the back.

Thanks in advance; and as always I appreciate y'all and your guidance and assistance!!

Regards,

Steve

[Jeff Kleiner]

Mike, Jeff, John, and the others that have responded-

Can you tell me a little more about the brace that you are supposed to use on the low back Kirkey's?

I have a set, although not installed, and I had not been made aware of the need for a brace in the back.

Thanks in advance; and as always I appreciate y'all and your guidance and assistance!!

Regards,

Steve

Steve,

Here is the mount:

https://www.kirkeyracing.com/product/10/99212/REAR-SEAT-MOUNT-316-ALUMINUM-FOR-38415565-SERIES-SEAT

And the installation guide:

https://www.kirkeyracing.com/images/uploads/files/65%20Series%20Installation%20Guide%281%29.pdf

Although I confess that when I have installed Kirkeys I have used the floor brackets but fabricated the rear mounts (50 bucks seems a little salty ;))

Jeff

[john42]

I have high back racing seats, but that concept is the same.

[WIS89]

Steve,

Here is the mount:

https://www.kirkeyracing.com/product/10/99212/REAR-SEAT-MOUNT-316-ALUMINUM-FOR-38415565-SERIES-SEAT

And the installation guide:

https://www.kirkeyracing.com/images/uploads/files/65%20Series%20Installation%20Guide%281%29.pdf

Although I confess that when I have installed Kirkeys I have used the floor brackets but fabricated the rear mounts (50 bucks seems a little salty ;))

Jeff

Jeff-

Thanks for the quick response, and all the good info! I like the idea of fabricating my own mounts; I may have to give that a go myself!

I appreciate the assist -- again!!

Regards,

Steve

[Jim1855]

Just a comment/question on the Kirkey's being "floppy".
I have the newer 65 Series seats. These are a 2-piece with a seat & back that is bolted together and adjustable for height. Kirkey has also added a formed angle/corner braces that wrap from the side to the back. I don't believe that this was part of the earlier 47 Series seats.
I do know that Kirkey recommends the back brace and will fabricate and install something but have yet to understand where the seats are lacking support or strength.
Insight appreciated.
Jim