Flange Bearing Snafu??

[CaptB]

Hey guys, first weird item that is stumping me. Following the manual, the flange bearing install comes after the pedal mounting bracket.

Here's the picture of what I'm getting:

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I'm wondering if the bearing flange should be installed before the pedal mounting bracket????
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Thanks,
Capt B

[egchewy79]

Trim some off either side to get your clearance

[Papa]

Try swapping the bearing to the other side of the panel. Mine is on the engine bay side.

[edwardb]

When mounting on the inside, normal to have to trim the flange a bit to clear. Won't affect its operation at all.

[Indy Shu]

Shouldn't both bearing bearing plates be on the same side also?

[edwardb]

Shouldn't both bearing bearing plates be on the same side also?

Missed that. Yes, both shells on the same side. Otherwise the bearing isn't properly captured.

[CaptB]

Missed that. Yes, both shells on the same side. Otherwise the bearing isn't properly captured.

Can you make it a little more clear on the "shells"? And yes after I had done the temp install I realized I had the bearing backward but based on what I see that wouldn't have made a difference.

Thanks.

[edwardb]

Can you make it a little more clear on the "shells"? And yes after I had done the temp install I realized I had the bearing backward but based on what I see that wouldn't have made a difference.

Thanks.

There are two pressed steel parts (shells) with the bearing in between that the steering shaft goes through. They're both the same. When you install the assembly and tighten the mounting bolts, the bearing is locked into position between the two halves. If you don't have the shells on the same side, the bearing will be loose inside. The bearing has set screws on one side, so that's what I assume you mean by backwards if not a certain direction. It actually doesn't matter which way you put the bearing. Install it whichever direction provides the best access to the set screws.

[CaptB]

There are two pressed steel parts (shells) with the bearing in between that the steering shaft goes through. They're both the same. When you install the assembly and tighten the mounting bolts, the bearing is locked into position between the two halves. If you don't have the shells on the same side, the bearing will be loose inside. The bearing has set screws on one side, so that's what I assume you mean by backwards if not a certain direction. It actually doesn't matter which way you put the bearing. Install it whichever direction provides the best access to the set screws.

Ok got it now thanks! First little bit of questions, but going well so far.

The missing parts are a pain in the *** but all we can do is wait for parts. Another quick question, is the assembly manual pretty straight forward on the order your should do things. I'm at the point where I don't have the steering assembly but can move forward to the passenger foot box sheet metal.

I'm not riveting anything yet as I'm not sure if I should but is there any reason why I shouldn't be moving on past the steering assembly to the passenger foot box work?

Thanks,
Capt. B

[egchewy79]

Forge ahead. I jumped around a bit on my build not having my rear axle until a bit later in the process. you can go ahead and rivet your passenger side footbox w/o much worry. If you're doing some sound deadener material, do yourself a favor and make some cardboard templates of the panels that will make cutting material much easier down the road. 158481

[J R Jones]

Hey guys, first weird item that is stumping me. Following the manual, the flange bearing install comes after the pedal mounting bracket.

Here's the picture of what I'm getting:

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I'm wondering if the bearing flange should be installed before the pedal mounting bracket????
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Thanks,
Capt B

FFR Technical Publications does not get everything right (in my experience) and no one there checks the work. A flange bearing is typically a cylindrical bushing with a thrust flange on it, like a top hat.
What you are referencing looks like a spherical bearing with a flanged housing. I never worked with one but I assume that it accommodates a range of angle and is fastened in place after you have the steering column located as you want it.
jim

[CaptB]

Problem solved!!!

@egchewy79 great idea, I'll do that before any rivets go in.

Thanks for the help guys!


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[rich grsc]

Problem solved!!!

@egchewy79 great idea, I'll do that before any rivets go in.

Thanks for the help guys!


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Put the flanges on the inside, and turn the bearing facing the other way. You will be grateful when installing the steering shaft

[CaptB]

Put the flanges on the inside, and turn the bearing facing the other way. You will be grateful when installing the steering shaft

Maybe I'm missing something but this is what the manual says:

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Doesn't this look like the "front" on the footbox?

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Or is this a case where the FFR manual is slightly not right?

[Papa]

Maybe I'm missing something but this is what the manual says:

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Doesn't this look like the "front" on the footbox?

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Or is this a case where the FFR manual is slightly not right?

Mine is as the manual shows and works fine. Others have had to move it to the inside of the foot box to be able to get the steering shaft to go together. Do what works best for you.

[CraigS]

It can be installed on either side. But putting it inside of the footbox makes things a lot easier once you get the steering column installed and try to connect it to the rack and pinion. If you put it on the engine side the column gets captured between the bearing and the rack. If you need to rotate the column on the splined rack shaft, you would need to partially remove the rack so the column has room to come off the splines. If you put the bearing on the inside, you can loosen the mount bolts/nuts and slide the bearing and the column toward the rear of the car to get it off the rack. Go to EdwardB's 'Build 3' thread, post #69, 3rd picture to see how he did his on the inside.

[rich grsc]

It can be installed on either side. But putting it inside of the footbox makes things a lot easier once you get the steering column installed and try to connect it to the rack and pinion. If you put it on the engine side the column gets captured between the bearing and the rack. If you need to rotate the column on the splined rack shaft, you would need to partially remove the rack so the column has room to come off the splines. If you put the bearing on the inside, you can loosen the mount bolts/nuts and slide the bearing and the column toward the rear of the car to get it off the rack. Go to EdwardB's 'Build 3' thread, post #69, 3rd picture to see how he did his on the inside.
Right, if you flip the bearing so the set screws are inside the foot box, you may have just enough room to remove the shaft without loosening the bearing flanges. I do believe I was the first person to do this many years ago, I know I have always recommended doing it this way. Otherwise you have to loosen the steering rack:(

[CaptB]

Awesome and thanks!