View Full Version : Pick your favorite if Rodney's wasn't available or you already bought that one.
kitcarj
11-12-2011, 09:39 PM
This may annoy some but I wanted to effectively determine what people would pick for there second choice. I think it is safe to say that Rodney's Napalm Orange car would be the 1st choice for about 2/3 of the people so far with almost 5 times as many votes as the second place cars (the Vantage and Whetstones are currently tied at 14 each with the two Orange versions of Rodney's car coming in with 68 votes). I did not include Rodney's blue version because I don't think FF would build both versions of his car.
Nouphone's
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Vman's Vantage
More pictures available at
http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showthread.php?2180-Vantage-Design-Project/page5
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Whetstone's
More Pictures available at
http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showthread.php?3959-Shawn-Whetstone-s-Design
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Xabier's
Larger picture at:
http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showthread.php?3917-1-4-scale-model-feedback
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Jim's maybe with some improvements
more pictures at:
http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showthread.php?3965-818-Sample-Model-4
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kitcarj
11-12-2011, 09:44 PM
Does anyone have any thoughts on the possibility FF might not build Whetstone's and Rodney's Napalm Orange car because they are the closest to being the same look, even if they were the two top picks?
305mouse
11-12-2011, 10:59 PM
I don't think Whetstone's looks anything like Olmos' napalm orange. The Vantage and Olmos designs are the best two out there right now.
mekeys
11-12-2011, 11:24 PM
Not even close.. (Whetstone & Rodney)
Mel
kitcarj
11-12-2011, 11:29 PM
I hope not because I would like to see these two built along with the Vantage.
Not even close.. (Whetstone & Rodney)
Mel
riptide motorsport
11-12-2011, 11:38 PM
Did you ever think that Rodneys might not actually be the favorite, only the most visible because of he vocal minority?
kitcarj
11-12-2011, 11:43 PM
I am not sure what you mean? Everyone got one vote and about 64% preferred the Napalm Orange version of Rodney's.
Did you ever think that Rodneys might not actually be the favorite, only the most visible because of he vocal minority?
2KWIK4U
11-13-2011, 08:39 AM
Did you ever think that Rodneys might not actually be the favorite, only the most visible because of he vocal minority?
This is the same thing I was thinking, All the designs are nice and I would be happy to build any of them. With that said I do have my favorites and a pole with only 100 votes on a world class kit doesn't make it the only choice.
We can only use the tools we are given. The tool in this case is this forum, the people who have voted have an opinion on which car they prefer and have expressed this. I can only conclude that anyone else who hasn't voted doesn't have a strong opinion either way.
You may not agree with how the voting is turning out but that what democracy is all about.
Kalstar
11-13-2011, 09:10 AM
Vman, Whetstone, Rodney. Any of three would be my first choice. Build all three I have the garage space and at 15k each why not. My understanding there will be different engine choices, maybe an Ecoboost4 in one, TDI with a turbo in another and if course the Subi-Boxter in the other. Three different bodies with, different power plants all three for less than 1 GTM.
All of these polls are starting to get ridiculous.
2KWIK4U
11-13-2011, 10:46 AM
We can only use the tools we are given. The tool in this case is this forum, the people who have voted have an opinion on which car they prefer and have expressed this. I can only conclude that anyone else who hasn't voted doesn't have a strong opinion either way.
You may not agree with how the voting is turning out but that what democracy is all about.
I understand that if this was a democracy, but remember at the end Dave and Jim make the final decision. They have to figure out which design will appeal most to the public, not just a handful of people on a forum. I am confident they will make a decision that will be outstanding and profitable.
Jeff Kleiner
11-13-2011, 11:59 AM
They have to figure out which design will appeal most to the public...
...AND still meet the originally stated design parameters. Seems to me that early on many posters got caught up on wish list items and lost sight of such things as weight, price point, ease of manufacturing, finished body panels, maintaining the chassis hard points which are critical to packaging the mechanicals as well as passengers, etc. all while keeping it buildable for a first time hobbyist.
I'd be willing to bet that the reason Jim's design was the one that got detailed first is because it can meet those parameters as is. Being crafted from an engineer's perspective you can rest assured that the critical elements were kept in the forefront while it was shaped in 1:1 scale on the chassis and no change was made without considering the downstream effect. We KNOW that it fits. Can the other designs be made to work? Sure they can...but some of them might appear a good bit different afterwards.
Of course that's all JMHO,
Jeff
2KWIK4U
11-13-2011, 04:15 PM
...AND still meet the originally stated design parameters. Seems to me that early on many posters got caught up on wish list items and lost sight of such things as weight, price point, ease of manufacturing, finished body panels, maintaining the chassis hard points which are critical to packaging the mechanicals as well as passengers, etc. all while keeping it buildable for a first time hobbyist.
I'd be willing to bet that the reason Jim's design was the one that got detailed first is because it can meet those parameters as is. Being crafted from an engineer's perspective you can rest assured that the critical elements were kept in the forefront while it was shaped in 1:1 scale on the chassis and no change was made without considering the downstream effect. We KNOW that it fits. Can the other designs be made to work? Sure they can...but some of them might appear a good bit different afterwards.
Of course that's all JMHO,
Jeff
I think your right, they have to start somewhere for the things you mentioned.
Dan Frederiksen
11-15-2011, 04:48 PM
the Whetstone is the best because it's sleaker and more aerodynamic (the Targa, not the roadster). it's better than Rodney's too.
we are moving to more intelligently designed vehicles like better aerodynamics so we should let the forefront be chosen instead of what the masses want right now.
I would suggest further improvements be made to the whetstone though in the name of aerodynamics. lower the hips a little as well as the rear top edge to better let the air close behind it. also the air entering the mouth should get intelligent treatment. a closed cavity is bad for aero.
otherwise I really like the design. worthy of high end manufacture like a Tesla. 10k$ roller and 10k$ electronics, you could have a cheap Tesla Roadster that's even better because it weighs a lot less and has better aero. it could be great.
BipDBo
11-15-2011, 05:38 PM
Dan! Welcome!
Did you submit a design?
Dan Frederiksen
11-17-2011, 12:58 AM
no, only heard of the project a few days ago. I like the idea, particularly for electric drive. but I wish there was more awareness of aerodynamics in the designs. it's a good opportunity for FF to get out of low brow cars, it could be pretty great.
a race car might well spend 95% of its power getting through the wind on a straight so aerodynamics is hugely important. but very few people take the time to realize that.
the cobra roadster is particularly unintelligent in this regard. an appalling drag coefficient.
PhyrraM
11-17-2011, 01:53 AM
the cobra roadster is particularly unintelligent in this regard. an appalling drag coefficient.
That would be because it's a replica of a 1960s design, no?